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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 25, 2018 17:59:49 GMT -5
I was listening to some old Ed songs from before his first album (on that 5 compilation box set that came out a few years ago) and it really made me miss early Ed. He was so charming and relatable and the music felt authentic. I like the new album well enough but if Divide were my introduction to Ed Sheeran, he never would have caught my attention.
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Post by dbhmr on Jan 25, 2018 18:12:35 GMT -5
I don't see the fuss around Ed Sheeran... He released a mediocre (or even a bit worse than that) album and has had three big hits and is nominated for a couple of Grammys. Everything should be pretty ok? My god, this. Besides, actually good albums miss out on nominations literally every year. I don't know why this has become so controversial. And actually, I don't think it has beyond key music media outlets drumming it up for clicks. No one else seems that mad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 18:14:53 GMT -5
I just think it's cute that we're supposed to think the Grammys are going to feel any hurt feelings or ratings just because three people (two of whom are not even nominated this year) aren't going to be performing. Which is basically the case EVERY year. There is always another A-lister or up-and-comer willing to take the spot.
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Post by DJ General on Jan 25, 2018 19:38:19 GMT -5
FINAL TELECAST LIST
PERFORMERS: Jon Batiste Brothers Osborne Alessia Cara Cardi B Childish Gambino Eric Church Gary Clark Jr. Miley Cyrus Daddy Yankee DJ Khaled Luis Fonsi Emmylou Harris Elton John Kesha Khalid Lady Gaga Kendrick Lamar Little Big Town Logic Patti LuPone Bruno Mars Maren Morris P!nk Ben Platt Rihanna Zuleyka Rivera Sam Smith Chris Stapleton Sting SZA Bryson Tiller U2
PRESENTERS: Tony Bennett Dave Chappelle Kelly Clarkson Victor Cruz Eve Jim Gaffigan Katie Holmes Nick Jonas Anna Kendrick Alicia Keys John Legend Shemar Moore Trevor Noah Sarah Silverman Hailee Steinfeld Donnie Wahlberg
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 25, 2018 21:47:43 GMT -5
Eve!!!! #justicefortambourine
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 26, 2018 1:44:09 GMT -5
Ah I can see Tony Bennett presenting Joanne
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 26, 2018 4:06:03 GMT -5
I thought he handled with Grammy question with class. Eh, I found it arrogant/presumptuous. For one, he didn't automatically deserve a nod so to say there is some larger reason for it is blah to me. More than that was him saying it's not like he won't be nominated again. That may be true, but wow what presumption. I agree. There is being confident in your work and yourself, and then there is just being cocky. This was the latter, and I feel this wasn’t this first time he has said something like this
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Post by Caviar on Jan 26, 2018 9:13:23 GMT -5
People get so butt hurt when artists list of their accomplishments as if they didn't work hard to achieve that success. Ask yourself, when you are in an interview do you dumb yourself down? "Ohhh no...I was good on that project but others were better." No! It's not arrogant. It's a fact. It's refreshing when artists are self aware for their success.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 26, 2018 9:33:28 GMT -5
People get so butt hurt when artists list of their accomplishments as if they didn't work hard to achieve that success. Ask yourself, when you are in an interview do you dumb yourself down? "Ohhh no...I was good on that project but others were better." No! It's not arrogant. It's a fact. It's refreshing when artists are self aware for their success. For one, he wasn't on a job interview. For another, he could have easily talked proudly of his work in a manner separate from acting like he deserved nominations and being arrogant about getting more of them. For example, "Awards are nice, but I make music because I love it and I put a lot into this album and I'm proud of it. The success it has already had is already gratifying enough." But seeing who you have in your avatar, I'm not surprised you like Ed's cockiness and overstating of his merit.
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Post by 14887fan on Jan 26, 2018 10:22:35 GMT -5
People get so butt hurt when artists list of their accomplishments as if they didn't work hard to achieve that success. Ask yourself, when you are in an interview do you dumb yourself down? "Ohhh no...I was good on that project but others were better." No! It's not arrogant. It's a fact. It's refreshing when artists are self aware for their success. girl what? Humility is important. “Self aware of their success” is literally just a pretty alternative to saying their head is wedged up their own ass.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 26, 2018 10:24:44 GMT -5
People get so butt hurt when artists list of their accomplishments as if they didn't work hard to achieve that success. Ask yourself, when you are in an interview do you dumb yourself down? "Ohhh no...I was good on that project but others were better." No! It's not arrogant. It's a fact. It's refreshing when artists are self aware for their success. girl what? Humility is important. “Self aware of their success” is literally just a pretty alternative to saying their head is wedged up their own ass. Look at the avatar. Self aware delusion might be a fave.
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Post by shayonce on Jan 26, 2018 10:30:34 GMT -5
I don't think Ed will win any awards.The shutdown from the general categories are an indicative his album wasn't very well liked among the academy. On the other hand I could see Kesha getting both pop categories she's nominated for. general nominations are chosen by committee which has about 20 people, out of 13k voters. pop filed is nominated by voters, pure popular vote, ed was nominated in both song and album. so his lack of general nominations indicate nothing for his pop nominations.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 26, 2018 10:32:33 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=310230Friday, January 26, 2018 BEER'S GRAMMY PICKS: THE BIG FOURby Lenny Beer Our Editor in Chief dug deep into his Grammy crystal ball—and even deeper into his stash—to deliver his predictions for the Top Four Grammy categories. Feel free to play along at home, but pace yourself on the weed. Lenny is a professional. RECORD OF THE YEARChildish Gambino, “Redbone”: This is my personal favorite—the most interesting and unique single of the year. It’s a brilliant throwback to the psychedelic funk/R&B of the early ’70s, mixed with a healthy dollop of Prince. And creator Donald Glover’s achievements as a multimedia creator are indisputable. Even so, it’s probably a longshot in this category. Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee fJustin Bieber, “Despacito”: The record was a monster even before there was an English-language version, and with Bieber on board, this remix altered the pop landscape. It was inescapable and swept up listeners of every stripe. One of the biggest records of all time—and the clear favorite. Jay-Z, “The Story of O.J.”: Jay gets major props from the Recording Academy for his stature as a hip-hop trailblazer, statesman and industry mover. And this is certainly an interesting and timely record. But he’s unlikely to take this trophy. Kendrick Lamar, “HUMBLE.”: This smash from Lamar’s streaming giant DAMN. is unquestionably a powerhouse, and shows hip-hop’s most inventive star at the top of his game. This is probably the second favorite, but so far we haven’t seen Grammy voters support Lamar in the top tier. It seems more likely that he’ll be rewarded in the Rap categories. Bruno Mars, “24K Magic”: Mars is one of the most riveting entertainers of his generation, and his pop-funk alchemy is in fine form on this infectious party jam. But it’s not quite as undeniable as some of his prior work. Will win: “Despacito” Dark horse: “Redbone” SONG OF THE YEARLuis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee, “Despacito”: For the reasons cited above, it’s hard to believe this ubiquitous Latin behemoth won’t win this category as well—it’s the biggest and the best. (Writers: Ramon Ayala Rodriguez, Justin Bieber, Jason Boyd, Erika Ender, Luis Fonsi and Marty James Garton Jr.) Jay-Z, “4:44”: Jay’s multiple awards are a crowning achievement to an extraordinary career and, again, a measure of profound respect from the industry. But this one is not a contender. (Writers: Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter and Dion "No I.D." Wilson) Julia Michaels, “Issues” The tunesmith-turned-artist has undeniable songwriting chops, and this song had a breakthrough run. It could be a sleeper with Grammy voters who love her. (Writers: Benny Blanco, Mikkel Storleer Eriksen, Tor Erik Hermansen, Julia Michaels and Justin Drew Tranter) Logic f/Alessia Cara & Khalid, “1-800-273-8255”: This is the first song MTV has broken in the last decade and maybe longer, exploding after Logic’s VMAs performance., The suicide-hotline anthem has a clear, important message and must be considered a contender. (Writers: Alessia Caracciolo, Sir Robert Bryson Hall II, aka Logic, Arjun Ivatury, Khalid Robinson and Andrew Taggart) Bruno Mars, “That’s What I Like”: Bruno is a monster, but why were two separate tunes of his nominated for Song and Record? This one isn’t likely to go the distance. (Writers: Christopher Brody Brown, James Fauntleroy, Philip Lawrence, Bruno Mars, Ray Charles McCullough II, Jeremy Reeves, Ray Romulus and Jonathan Yip) Will win: “Despacito” Upset surprise: “1-800-273-8255” ALBUM OF THE YEARChildish Gambino, “Awaken, My Love!”: This probably falls under the “thrilled to be nominated” category. A progressive, interesting and bold set, but not a real contender Jay-Z, 4:44: The frontrunner as a combination lifetime achievement award and a powerful statement from a mature artist—and a way for Grammy to pick a rap record and not give it to Kendrick. Kendrick Lamar, DAMN.: The L.A. rapper has so far not fully won over Grammy voters, despite dropping an album that was both the year’s most acclaimed and a giant smash. He has banked much respect, but the top-tier categories have eluded his reach—can he surmount mainstream resistance? Lorde, Melodrama: The Kiwi artist owned the cool market and unquestionably took a big step forward creatively with her sophomore full-length. But her nomination here was a longshot; it’s a year for hip-hop to win. Bruno Mars, 24K Magic: He touches every base and it wouldn’t surprise us if he won—he’s Grammy Whisperer Paul Grein’s choice for Album. Again, though, the vibe of the moment strongly points to a rap record taking the prize. Will win: Jay-Z Should win: Kendrick Lamar BEST NEW ARTISTAlessia Cara: This is the makeup for her not getting the nod last time. What’s more, the well-respected singer/songwriter’s second year in the limelight was even better than the first, as she bolstered her credibility as a solo artist and established herself as a feature VIP. She could be here for the long haul. Khalid: The young artist/songwriter—whose 20th birthday will fall shortly after this year’s ceremony—is part of the new R&B movement: part throwback, part progressive. He’s built momentum throughout the last year and is extremely well-liked. Julia Michaels: People fell in love with this pop thrush’s talent and personality, as she stepped from the writing room to the stage. But she hasn’t yet extended her own success beyond one hit (though she’s penned plenty for other acts). When that happens, she could go all the way. Lil Uzi Vert: The inclusion of this rapper seems like the Academy’s sop to streaming, since he was frequently spotted atop the Spotify and Apple Music charts as both main artist and feature. He’s a longshot, to say the least, in this category. SZA: This R&B trailblazer, who made my favorite album of the year, is certainly the favorite. In terms of songwriting depth, expressive vocals and galvanizing point of view, her Ctrl is the most potent album of its kind since the arrival of Lauryn Hill. In a category that’s been a constant source of surprises, I’d be surprised if she didn’t win. Will win: SZA Could win: Alessia Cara
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 26, 2018 11:01:00 GMT -5
If Lenny is supposedly an "expert," why doesn't he know why there are two different Bruno songs in Record and Song?
I'm also a bit surprised at the predictions for "Despacito" winning because it was a giant hit. There are plenty of examples of songs winning out over other nominees that were much bigger hits - from "Stay With Me" beating 3 #1s for Record to "Get Lucky" beating out 3 #1s (including the huge "Blurred Lines" to "Clocks" beating a lot of big #1s and more.
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 26, 2018 12:35:57 GMT -5
I don't buy that Jay-Z over Kendrick explanation at all. If they are giving the award to rap album, why wouldn't they give it to the best one?
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Post by anafan on Jan 26, 2018 13:12:59 GMT -5
None of my favorites are really nominated this year so I'm glad to watch without any emotional investment. Looking forward to the performances.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 26, 2018 14:40:38 GMT -5
I don't buy that Jay-Z over Kendrick explanation at all. If they are giving the award to rap album, why wouldn't they give it to the best one? In a general sense I could see it because Jay-Z has been around longer so he's built more connections and respect, and because he hasn't won major Grammys before. In this specific case I don't see it because the past few years Jay-Z has worked outside the mainstream industry more and more (and rejected a Grammys performance) so I don't see the industry rallying around him.
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Post by shayonce on Jan 26, 2018 23:49:11 GMT -5
Jay is veteran who has bigger name brand and respect from many industry people including outside hiphop, especially older people. Also to people who are not familiar with hiphop.
Kendrick's better critic result means not much in grammy. In only appeals to some very heavy current music listner and young people. And hiphop fans.
I mean... Over the years grammy voters proved again and again critic result is not a big deal.
I wouldn't be surprised If jay got more votes than kendrick in aoty. It's kinda like pharrell vs beyonce back in 2015. Pharrell won over beyonce becuase of very similar reasons.
And same logic, jay might wins rap field over kendrick. He's the one that will get older voters, avg gp while kendrick lose some young, hiphop votes with other nominated current young artists.
anyway only thing jay got is veteran card. Is that enough to pass polarizing nature of rap/hiphop genre? I don't think so.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 27, 2018 4:17:16 GMT -5
I feel like Lorde or Bruno are gonna take home album of the year, Jay and Kendrick split the vote and I don't see anyone gunning for Gambino. I do think Kendrick deserves it the most, he had a remarkable year and Damn might not be his best work, but after two losses I think he definitely deserves a redemption. It just makes sense.
Overall, I like every album in the category and I'll be happy if anyone takes it home.
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Post by willapted33 on Jan 27, 2018 6:21:25 GMT -5
This is probably the only year in memory where I legitimately love every AOTY nominee. However, Kendrick needs to win due to his absolute snubbage against Taylor Swift and Macklemore.
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Post by Duca on Jan 27, 2018 9:38:23 GMT -5
They'll probably give AOTY to Bruno since he's racially ambiguous.
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Post by Crimsonio on Jan 27, 2018 9:47:48 GMT -5
I think Gaga will take home Best Pop Vocal Album, while Kesha will take home Best Pop Solo Performance.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jan 27, 2018 18:29:49 GMT -5
Some details about performances behind spoilers. {Spoiler}Grammy rehearsals aim to be true to the political climate while celebrating music By GERRICK D. KENNEDY
"Can I have more [sound] in my ear?" Miley Cyrus asked as she went over notes with Elton John.
The two were prepping a take of John's signature "Tiny Dancer" as rehearsals for Sunday's 60th Grammy Awards kicked off at Madison Square Garden Thursday afternoon.
It was the first day of the penultimate lap of the marathon that's been underway since Grammy nominations were announced in November, and the well orchestrated chorus of chaos that comes with mounting a live 3½-hour music spectacle was apparent before you walked into the cavernous venue.
A forklift carrying barricades held up a crowd of commuters rushing toward Penn Station as construction was underway in and around the arena prepping for music's biggest night, which is returning to New York for the first time in 15 years.
"We love our home in L.A., but this offers us a chance to shake it up a little bit and message it a little differently to the audience," said Jack Sussman, CBS's vice president of live events and specials. "It's the 60th anniversary and we haven't been here in 15 years. This was an opportunity, for one year, to give [the show] a different spin." The red carpet stretches through a specially erected tent, which looks to be the length of a football field. More than a dozen workers, their labored breaths visible in the frigid 30-degree weather, assembled platforms that will house reporters from across the world.
There were gold-plated logos of the Grammys and its host network, CBS, embossed on black-velvet-dotted walls. Black chandeliers were hung throughout the stretch of bright red carpet, with rows of white columns adorning the space.
But the real action was going down inside the Garden, where Ken Ehrlich, the telecast's longtime executive producer, Sussman and Recording Academy President Neil Portnow pieced together the more than 20 performances that will punctuate Sunday's show.
The main stages were lighted with neon and light bulbs reminiscent of a Broadway marquee — a nod to the Great White Way that defines New York — and framed by nearly two dozen hanging video screens.
As John and Cyrus moved through a couple of takes — it was the first time the two ever sang together — the show's host, James Corden, returning for a second stint as emcee, was in the producer's bullpen snacking on fruit-flavored gumdrops and giddy over his exchange with John. "He really is the sweetest guy."
"The night is really about the performances," Corden told reporters earlier in the morning. "As a host you want to usher that in."
Mounting the show in New York has kept producers on their toes as they contend with a number of challenges, from chilly temperatures to the logistics of navigating a sprawling city and a venue that, unlike Staples Center in L.A., wasn't designed with the massive production in mind. In the days before the show, reports surfaced of tension between the city and the Recording Academy sparked by budget overruns and discussions of concessions to offset the event's cost.
Although the Grammys are projected to pour a projected $200 million into the local economy, according to the Mayor's Office of Media and Entertainment, Crain's New York reported that the production will cost between $6 million to $8 million more than it would if it been in L.A. Portnow, who declined to divulge the show's budget, said the city ultimately didn't fully deliver on fundraising promises it made to the academy, which the mayor's office declined to comment on.
"We know that it's a lot more expensive to do the same week in New York that you do in L.A. — even if you change nothing. We came here fully aware," he said. "The unions are different here … the costs of hotels … catered meetings, all of that stuff adds up.
"The city basically made a number of assertions and plans and commitments that we more or less relied on. Possible sponsorships and all kinds of different ways to cover [the cost]," he continued. "It hasn't quite been what we expected or felt was promised to us … and we have an honest disagreement about that."
Even so, while the show producers all groused about the financial challenges of the relocation, it was in the "rearview mirror" of thought as Sunday's show started to take shape inside Madison Square Garden.
Sunday's show will reflect a wave of change that began with the crop of nominations.
After largely being overlooked in major categories for nearly four decades, hip-hop figures prominently in this year's nods — an embrace that acknowledges the genre's ubiquity and pop influence. Jay-Z leads with eight nominations, followed by Compton rapper Kendrick Lamar with seven. Both emcees are front-runners for album of the year and landed in either record or song of the year. One of the night's highlight performances will come courtesy of an explosive set from Lamar, which will feature U2 and Dave Chappelle.
Among the other artists on tap for Sunday's show are Rihanna, DJ Khaled, Sam Smith, SZA, Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee, Lady Gaga, Little Big Town, Bruno Mars, Cardi B, Chris Stapleton, Emmylou Harris, Pink, Sting and Childish Gambino.
The show will cover the past year of nominated songs and those trademark Grammy moments of surprise pairings, along with several tributes to musicians who died during the year.
Chuck Berry and Fats Domino will be honored by Gary Clark Jr. and Jon Batiste. Stapleton and Harris are pairing for a duet of "Wildflowers" in honor of Tom Petty that will lead the "In Memoriam" package. More eyes likely will be glued to the moments of the show that will address social issues such as gun violence, mental illness and sexual abuse — hotly debated topics that in recent months have jolted the entertainment industry. Producers stressed that they never look to force politics into the show, instead leaving it up to artists to use the platform as they see fit.
"We really do believe in artists' rights," Ehrlich said. "Everything comes from them. They are more than the sum of their lyrics and music. There's certainly more of a magnifying glass on our show because of the [Time's Up show of support at the] Golden Globes."
As Corden and Ehrlich discussed a potential segment, the newscast in the producer's bullpen displayed a press conference of an Arizona woman who was leaving the hospital after recovering from a "non-survivable injury" after being shot in the head at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival. The attack that left 58 dead and hundreds more injured will be addressed on Sunday's show with a tribute performance from Maren Morris, Eric Church and Brooks Osborne; the names of the victims will be displayed on paper lanterns.
Ehrlich was especially proud of the performance Kesha was prepping. The pop star, who saw her career stalled for years after going public with allegations of abuse against her mentor, superstar producer Dr. Luke, rebounded with last year's "Rainbow" (up for pop album).
Executive producer Ken Ehrlich during rehearsals for the Grammy Awards. Executive producer Ken Ehrlich during rehearsals for the Grammy Awards. (Carolyn Cole / Los Angeles Times) Kesha will tackle the album's stunning, redemptive ballad "Praying" alongside an all-star chorus of women in pop, including Cyndi Lauper, Camila Cabello, new artist nominee Julia Michaels, Andra Day and Bebe Rexha. They'll be joined by members of the Resistance Revival Chorus, a collective of women who come together to sing protest songs.
"It's going to be powerful," Ehrlich promised. "It would be an amazingly strong performance under any circumstance, but when you factor in what's happening it becomes much more relevant, in a way. It's what I love most about this show. Obviously there's a lot of people wondering about Time's Up and #MeToo and what's so gratifying to me as a child of the '60s is seeing this fervent commitment to change by a new generation."
The day before rehearsal kicked off, an open letter was circulated among the music industry by a group calling itself the "Voices of Entertainment."
Taking its cues from the Times Up campaign that defined the Golden Globes, the group is requesting attendees and nominees wear white roses in support of "equal representation in the workplace, for leadership that reflects the diversity of our society, workplaces free of sexual harassment and a heightened awareness of accountability."
It's a call to action for an industry that for all its history of "sex, drugs and rock & roll" has remained largely unscathed by the sea change. Even with a high-profile act like Kesha, her case had raged on for quite some time before she saw any support from her peers, and musicians have especially found themselves criticized for being silent on issues like sexual assault and harassment within the industry.
Tarana Burke, founder of the #MeToo movement (which wasn't involved in the white rose campaign), said she hopes the gesture sparks conversation and that shows like the Grammys should find ways to be impactful.
"The thing that is so powerful about #MeToo is it's really emboldened other women," she told The Times at a Grammy week event celebrating black women in music. "I'm sure there are a lot of #MeToos in the music industry. I don't ever promote people being forced to come out and say anything at all. People take their own time and do it when they are ready."
Still, she added: "Anything that's culturally relevant — whether it's political or societal — should find some way to address it," she continued. "And this is a thing that's so pervasive that you can't ignore it. I don't know if flowers is quite the way to go, but at least it's some kind of acknowledgment, and it's my hope that the gesture opens up more conversation and real dialogue."
Back inside Madison Square Garden on Friday, Logic was atop a center platform rapping his anthem "1-800-273-8255."
Titled after the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, the hit (it's up for song and video of the year) had an effect far beyond the charts as calls to the lifeline went up between 30% and 50% after its video went viral, and Logic is using his moment on the Grammys stage to make a powerful statement.
He and collaborators Alessia Cara and Khalid (both competing for new artist) were flanked by more than a dozen suicide loss survivors and those who have recovered from suicide attempts — the rapper capping the emotional performance with a poignant call to action for equality for women, minorities and immigrants as the hot line number flashed across multiple video screens.
"Let's reset and go once more, guys," a disembodied voice from production echoed in the loudspeaker as everyone moved back into place.
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Post by willapted33 on Jan 27, 2018 18:31:59 GMT -5
so it looks like Kendrick will be performing XXX with U2. looking forward to that one for sure
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 27, 2018 18:47:59 GMT -5
Upset surprise meaning 1-800-273-8255 winning would be bad? I disagree. Even ignoring the song’s message and title, the instrumental is one of the best of the year, the vocals are great, the build up to the end is great.. I haven’t heard 4:44 but 1-800 is much better than the other three, or at the very least as desevering
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Post by willapted33 on Jan 27, 2018 18:50:01 GMT -5
Upset surprise meaning 1-800-273-8255 winning would be bad? I disagree. Even ignoring the song’s message and title, the instrumental is one of the best of the year, the vocals are great, the build up to the end is great.. I haven’t heard 4:44 but 1-800 is much better than the other three, or at the very least as desevering 4:44 is better than 1-800 in each and every way
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 27, 2018 18:53:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind "1-800" winning. The way it's constructed with the person moving from being suicidal to not is great, and obviously the message is important. I think "4:44" is a great song, too. I hope either of those win over the other songs in the category.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 27, 2018 18:54:08 GMT -5
Upset surprise meaning 1-800-273-8255 winning would be bad? I disagree. Even ignoring the song’s message and title, the instrumental is one of the best of the year, the vocals are great, the build up to the end is great.. I haven’t heard 4:44 but 1-800 is much better than the other three, or at the very least as desevering 4:44 is better than 1-800 in each and every way I wasn’t going to but I will listen now ETA: Still prefer 1-800, and I agree with the above post, I also love that element
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Post by kanimal on Jan 27, 2018 19:15:37 GMT -5
Upset surprise meaning 1-800-273-8255 winning would be bad? I disagree. Even ignoring the song’s message and title, the instrumental is one of the best of the year, the vocals are great, the build up to the end is great.. I haven’t heard 4:44 but 1-800 is much better than the other three, or at the very least as desevering Well Despacito is a fairly strong betting favorite, so any other winner would technically be an upset. But 1-800-273-8255 is second from a betting standpoint, so a victory wouldn't necessarily be THAT shocking. Issues is the true longshot in the category.
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jenglisbe
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 27, 2018 19:21:47 GMT -5
Is "Despacito" a favorite to many simply because of its success? Was it also critically hailed? When is the last time a huge commercial song won major awards without the benefit of critical heft?
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