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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 22:09:27 GMT -5
YES Taylor. This is what every single celebrity who has the power to influence the younger generation should be using their platform for at this moment in time. Nothing is more important.
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Post by BDGeek on Oct 7, 2018 22:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by Grün on Oct 7, 2018 22:40:36 GMT -5
Guess who was never a white nationalist.... Shocker haha.
I always knew Taylor had her heart in the right place.
Taylor speaks up for Dems - Kanye wears a MAGA hat. The times are crazy haha.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 23:00:19 GMT -5
I have never said anything positive about her but she has now given me reason to. That was well written and adult and deep and hopeful that translates to her music soon!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 23:04:17 GMT -5
Also now briebart can now quote Shanda Twain. They are losing their relevant queens.
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Post by nickd on Oct 8, 2018 2:09:12 GMT -5
So, strongly hinting she voted for Hillary too.
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Post by born on Oct 8, 2018 2:18:26 GMT -5
This post made my day for real. It’s something she should’ve done a long time ago and I never thought she would but she did it now and I’ll take it! That was a great post and even though I doubt that many will read it, it’s there and it could have a positive impact on those who do read it. Ps: To whoever pointed out that she made the post right after the US leg of the tour ended, wow. I hadn’t thought of that, it’s true! That was a truly smart business move, but I didn’t expect anything less from the queen of snakes. She has proven that she’s one of the most skillful business women of the industry. The pettiness though
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Post by Dylan :) on Oct 8, 2018 2:35:29 GMT -5
A bunch of box scores were released recently. The European grosses were a bit better than Pollstar's estimates but still significantly weaker than the North American dates as expected. 72k attendance per date at Wembley is huge - more than for any North American date by about 10k. Her second highest per-date attendance is Dublin so that's good too - even if there were some empty seats, getting 133k people to show up is pretty amazing for a city of 500k (approx 1.5 million with suburbs and nearby small towns). Taylor's shows in similar sized American cities drew much smaller crowds with only 1 show, ex New Orleans, Columbus, Louisville. I'm not surprised they had to knock prices down so much to get those kinds of crowds to show up. The Houston show looks like it's the top grossing female US show of all time with $9,530,275. The next top grossing shows were Barbra Streisand's Y2K Las Vegas performances where she did an average of $9.1m over 2 dates, with the rest of the top 5 shows (per date) being rounded out by Atlanta, Nashville and Seattle from reputation tour. So far the tour looks on track to make $350-360m. Dublin is a bit different. There are around 2 million people in the metro area, while 4.5 Million people live in the Republic overall and 6.5 Million if you include Northern Ireland. Ireland is small country and Dublin is easily accessible from most places, which helped the fact that that was the only place she performed in Ireland. While the number is still really impressive, I would nearly include the whole country as potential attendants. Even for Ed Sheeran earlier in the year, Cork (metro of around half a million) was able to sell out three tour days (around 141,000 seats) and a lot of that was probably helped by the fact that people are willing to travel from much further away since the island overall is small and generally easy to get around
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Post by Keelzit on Oct 8, 2018 4:27:07 GMT -5
Why am I hysterically crying despite knowing almost nothing about American politics? All I know is that progressive icon Taylor Alison Swift has SPOKEN (NOW).
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Oct 8, 2018 7:21:38 GMT -5
lol
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Oct 8, 2018 7:49:45 GMT -5
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Post by QAF on Oct 8, 2018 8:28:34 GMT -5
Good for Taylor.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Oct 8, 2018 9:16:22 GMT -5
YESSSSSS Speak Now, Aryan Queen!!
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Post by ItGirl on Oct 8, 2018 10:37:19 GMT -5
Glad she did it on her terms.
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Post by deepston on Oct 8, 2018 11:06:16 GMT -5
This is a turning point in her career, that's for sure!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 8, 2018 16:27:39 GMT -5
Screaming @ her coming out at as a Democrat after she collected those republican coins on tour. Well played, sis.
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Post by nickd on Oct 8, 2018 16:36:09 GMT -5
A bunch of box scores were released recently. The European grosses were a bit better than Pollstar's estimates but still significantly weaker than the North American dates as expected. 72k attendance per date at Wembley is huge - more than for any North American date by about 10k. Her second highest per-date attendance is Dublin so that's good too - even if there were some empty seats, getting 133k people to show up is pretty amazing for a city of 500k (approx 1.5 million with suburbs and nearby small towns). Taylor's shows in similar sized American cities drew much smaller crowds with only 1 show, ex New Orleans, Columbus, Louisville. I'm not surprised they had to knock prices down so much to get those kinds of crowds to show up. The Houston show looks like it's the top grossing female US show of all time with $9,530,275. The next top grossing shows were Barbra Streisand's Y2K Las Vegas performances where she did an average of $9.1m over 2 dates, with the rest of the top 5 shows (per date) being rounded out by Atlanta, Nashville and Seattle from reputation tour. So far the tour looks on track to make $350-360m. Dublin is a bit different. There are around 2 million people in the metro area, while 4.5 Million people live in the Republic overall and 6.5 Million if you include Northern Ireland. Ireland is small country and Dublin is easily accessible from most places, which helped the fact that that was the only place she performed in Ireland. While the number is still really impressive, I would nearly include the whole country as potential attendants. Even for Ed Sheeran earlier in the year, Cork (metro of around half a million) was able to sell out three tour days (around 141,000 seats) and a lot of that was probably helped by the fact that people are willing to travel from much further away since the island overall is small and generally easy to get around Well Ed Sheeran's popularity atm is pretty exceptional. Divide opened with 672,000 copies in the UK, which considering the US has a 5x larger population would be as if he debuted with 3.3 million in one week in the US. I'd assume his popularity in Ireland is comparable. The population figure you give for Dublin and those American cities will vary depending on how you measure it, but I'll maintain that their populations are pretty similar. Dublin has about 2 million people living within 100 km, while Louisville has 1.8 million, New Orleans 2.0 million and Columbus 2.8 million. Indianapolis, Kansas City, St. Louis are also in the 2-3 million range, and Nashville is around 1.9 million. If you want to compare the greater regional populations, those American cities aren't in the middle of nowhere either and have a good network of highways connecting them to nearby cities (that generally did not have any shows).
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Post by nickd on Oct 8, 2018 16:41:59 GMT -5
YESSSSSS Speak Now, Aryan Queen!! Alexa, play Dark Blue Tennessee Screaming @ her coming out at as a Democrat after she collected those republican coins on tour. Well played, sis. Put the money in a bag and I stole the keys That was the last time you ever saw me
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Post by tinawina on Oct 8, 2018 17:04:45 GMT -5
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Post by Dylan :) on Oct 8, 2018 17:47:26 GMT -5
Dublin is a bit different. There are around 2 million people in the metro area, while 4.5 Million people live in the Republic overall and 6.5 Million if you include Northern Ireland. Ireland is small country and Dublin is easily accessible from most places, which helped the fact that that was the only place she performed in Ireland. While the number is still really impressive, I would nearly include the whole country as potential attendants. Even for Ed Sheeran earlier in the year, Cork (metro of around half a million) was able to sell out three tour days (around 141,000 seats) and a lot of that was probably helped by the fact that people are willing to travel from much further away since the island overall is small and generally easy to get around Well Ed Sheeran's popularity atm is pretty exceptional. Divide opened with 672,000 copies in the UK, which considering the US has a 5x larger population would be as if he debuted with 3.3 million in one week in the US. I'd assume his popularity in Ireland is comparable. The population figure you give for Dublin and those American cities will vary depending on how you measure it, but I'll maintain that their populations are pretty similar. Dublin has about 2 million people living within 100 km, while Louisville has 1.8 million, New Orleans 2.0 million and Columbus 2.8 million. Indianapolis, Kansas City, St. Louis are also in the 2-3 million range, and Nashville is around 1.9 million. If you want to compare the greater regional populations, those American cities aren't in the middle of nowhere either and have a good network of highways connecting them to nearby cities (that generally did not have any shows). You are 100% right in that last point. I would have to see a US map with all of the Taylor shows marked on it though and compare to see the distance between cities with shows and the whole island of Ireland, as Dublin was the only show. So people didn’t have the choice of going to other cities as it was the only one. Likewise, the UK only had two cities, Manchester and London. So their numbers may be inflated by people in Scotland, Wales and the rest of England going there as there aren’t any other choices. I don’t know if I’m making any real points or if it matters but I hope I’m making some bit of sense :) Regardless of any of those, she pulled insane numbers. It will be interesting to see if her next tour will be as big - I hope she comes to Cork next time so I can go (I was too lazy to go to Dublin and the tickets and cost of accommodation weren’t worth it)
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Post by toomuchboy on Oct 8, 2018 19:54:37 GMT -5
I'm glad she made those comments. It doesn't really change my opinion of her though or why I decided not to buy her last album; the time to speak would've been while "Look What You Made Me Do" was out and being re-appropriated by white supremacists. Still, better than nothing. *shrug*
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Post by nickd on Oct 8, 2018 20:18:17 GMT -5
Well Ed Sheeran's popularity atm is pretty exceptional. Divide opened with 672,000 copies in the UK, which considering the US has a 5x larger population would be as if he debuted with 3.3 million in one week in the US. I'd assume his popularity in Ireland is comparable. The population figure you give for Dublin and those American cities will vary depending on how you measure it, but I'll maintain that their populations are pretty similar. Dublin has about 2 million people living within 100 km, while Louisville has 1.8 million, New Orleans 2.0 million and Columbus 2.8 million. Indianapolis, Kansas City, St. Louis are also in the 2-3 million range, and Nashville is around 1.9 million. If you want to compare the greater regional populations, those American cities aren't in the middle of nowhere either and have a good network of highways connecting them to nearby cities (that generally did not have any shows). You are 100% right in that last point. I would have to see a US map with all of the Taylor shows marked on it though and compare to see the distance between cities with shows and the whole island of Ireland, as Dublin was the only show. So people didn’t have the choice of going to other cities as it was the only one. Likewise, the UK only had two cities, Manchester and London. So their numbers may be inflated by people in Scotland, Wales and the rest of England going there as there aren’t any other choices. I don’t know if I’m making any real points or if it matters but I hope I’m making some bit of sense Regardless of any of those, she pulled insane numbers. It will be interesting to see if her next tour will be as big - I hope she comes to Cork next time so I can go (I was too lazy to go to Dublin and the tickets and cost of accommodation weren’t worth it) Well US+Canada has 6.7x as many shows as UK+Ireland and 5.1x the population. It's not a huge difference. Louisville was 200 km from Indianapolis, 280 km from Nashville, 325 km from Columbus and 410 km from St Louis, so there were other cities with shows not too far away. It was still the closest city for about 4-5 million people though, so I don't think it's a hugely different situation from Ireland, like yeah, maybe someone from Owensboro, KY could've gone to Nashville instead of Louisville because it fit their schedule better, but the same could be said about someone from Terre Haute, IN going to Louisville instead of Indianapolis. I'd still say that you would have expected Taylor to draw about 30,000-50,000 fans to Dublin at the typical $125 average US ticket price if she was as popular in Ireland as in the US. The fact that she drew so many more (135,000) is pretty impressive even if it meant the average ticket only went for $67 and the dates were probably not true sell outs. One advantage Dublin might have had is more tourists - even if it's not quite on the level of Amsterdam or Florence, it's still well ahead of Louisville and Columbus as a city with lots of tourists looking for something to do on a Fri/Sat night.
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Post by SHOOTER on Oct 9, 2018 1:55:24 GMT -5
Proud of her sacrificing her million-plus first week sales for her convictions!
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Post by deepston on Oct 9, 2018 6:05:42 GMT -5
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Post by austin on Oct 9, 2018 7:41:52 GMT -5
No one impacts like her.
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Post by gbaby on Oct 9, 2018 8:15:33 GMT -5
I feel like this move cements that a new era is beginning. Dare we speculate on the next TS album?
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Oct 9, 2018 9:17:13 GMT -5
Only the queen! Who else has such influence? lol
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Post by deepston on Oct 9, 2018 9:55:47 GMT -5
It's quite sad that young people need a popstar to tell them to vote to actually do it though
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Post by Choco on Oct 9, 2018 12:29:51 GMT -5
I feel like this move cements that a new era is beginning. Dare we speculate on the next TS album? We are, at the very least a year away from any new album. Would love to be wrong though! reputation was alright and it gave me a handful of songs that I really, really enjoy, but I kinda wanna see if 1989 and Red were her creative peak and it's all downhill from here or she has another great album in her.
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Post by balletgirlmom on Oct 9, 2018 12:48:01 GMT -5
So happy Taylor spoke out. Kanye and Kim sort of made me feel like there was no hope. After awhile it gets kind of disturbing to me. No matter what Trump does or says or Tweets it is all considered OK. If Obama had tweeted hateful thing or if Hillary had tweeted hateful things they'd have been ridiculed. Somehow Trumps dysfunction is ignored. Sad. Anyhow, thanks Taylor!
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