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Post by pnobelysk on Oct 23, 2017 9:27:25 GMT -5
Ok. I'm drawing the line lmao. This is nowhere NEAR the disaster of Witness. LWYMMD was a Hot 100 #1, and the second song released from the album, with zero promotion whatsoever reached #4. We know Katy's recent chart positions for comparison (of promoted, adds date and video accompanied singles). This album will sell more in its first week stateside than Withess has sold to date worldwide, and it'll do it without a concert ticket deal. Let's just get back to reality before the witch hunt goes too far. Was it not used in the commercials for multiple TV shows? Being on Today's Top Hits also counts as "promotion". Anyway, this is obviously her PRISM / Born This Way / Femme Fatale era. Witness will be her next album. Also, Witness sold 800k WW so far. Don't be so sure that Reputation will debut with 800k+. Remember, LWYMMD debuted with half the sales of her previous lead singles. With 3/3 songs so far, she's shown that she's lost her ability for writing smart lyrics. Gorgeous in particular is horribly written. I guess it could be considered her "Witness era" in that sense. No one ever cared about Katy's lyrics though, but Taylor fans always loved her for her witty lyrics "that cut through glass". We don't know how many she's losing currently from her mediocre/polarizing output. In regards to the look what you made me do, try to remember digital sales are dead. It’s first week was huge digitally even if it was a decline from her previous lead singles, which were during times were the digital industry was still stready. It was also reported that somewhere in 75k-100k+ range was deducted from her debut week because of pre orders. Her last three albums opened with over a million. I really can’t see this one opening below 800k.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Oct 23, 2017 9:30:08 GMT -5
With the release of the video (which looks like it’ll be EPIC), I guess we all can finally be put to rest as of what the second single is. The only thing they need to do now is put it back on TTH. Why was it even removed/replaced in the first place? That was a bad decision on their part. Hoping for a good radio, streaming, and sales bump starting later this week! :)
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Post by theflying on Oct 23, 2017 9:30:54 GMT -5
So weird.
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 23, 2017 9:32:55 GMT -5
That looks like a damn movie trailer, wow!
So if a high budget music video was shot for this, then they had a plan to release this as a single at some point. Makes me wonder what the actual hell is going on behind the scenes then. Her team literally has the power to withhold songs from radio as evidenced with "Bad Blood" and "Wildest Dreams" from last era. They have the power to kill a song as evidenced with "Look What You Made Me Do." Why would they let radio continue to play this and increase its burn rate before it even gets a chance as a real single? It'll die in the holiday freeze, choked to death by its high burn rate. Part of me then wonders if they had planned this all along so it would be dead by January in time to release single #3 in a similar fashion to "Out of the Woods," but if they had planned to release this anyway, why did they cancel the rhythmic adds date that was supposed to be just last week? Why is this no longer on Today's Top Hits? Why is "Gorgeous" even there?
I don't understand what the f**k is going on with this era right now.
...what if it's a visual album?
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Post by theflying on Oct 23, 2017 9:35:36 GMT -5
Wait, this video DOES look epic, and super NOT last minute (and nothing takes place on a bridge?) - so maybe they WERE kind of planning for this?
So strange.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Oct 23, 2017 9:41:21 GMT -5
If they are gonna push this they need something to reignite interest in the song itself. A surprise feature in the video coupled with a new mix servced to streaming and digital outlets alongside the video debut could help.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 9:41:29 GMT -5
Oh, Im ready for it!! Gimme that video!!
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Post by Juan Carlos on Oct 23, 2017 9:43:34 GMT -5
Impacting both Top 40/M and Rhythmic formats now. From HDD:
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 23, 2017 9:45:41 GMT -5
Taylor's Team RN:
Here you go, rhythmic, an adds date. Wait, no, fuck you. Just play the damn song, everybody!
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 23, 2017 9:46:27 GMT -5
Well that settles that then. Meanwhile what the f**k do they think they're doing with 'Gorgeous'?! :sip2:
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Post by MilesW1998 on Oct 23, 2017 9:51:20 GMT -5
I'll say this what I said in the Reputation thread; enough of the shady business going on here.
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Post by tinawina on Oct 23, 2017 9:51:53 GMT -5
I'm one one of the few here that likes both Ready For It and Gorgeous (it's cute and catchy, even if it's not the bestus song she's ever done lol), so I don't see either as a disaster of a choice... I just want them to pick a lane and stick with it already. That's the frustrating part.
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Oct 23, 2017 9:52:42 GMT -5
Is this really the best they can do for single 2?
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 23, 2017 9:57:15 GMT -5
Well that settles that then. Meanwhile what the f**k do they think they're doing with 'Gorgeous'?! Wait I just remembered they replaced RFI with Gorgeous on Spotify alksjdlkajsdasd LMAO Is that Spotify's own decision, or do Labels tell them which song to put? I believe it's both. Spotify can choose what to add and remove, barring any label input. So, like: Spotify: Hey, let's add this cool new LANY song to Today's Top Hits! Some Big Label: Hey, our artist, Taylor Swift is releasing a new song this Friday, it needs to be on TTH. Spotify: Okay, we'll get it added! Spotify: Well, now we have two songs to add. The other big label already told us to pull the old Miley Cyrus song off, but we need to remove another to make room for the Taylor Swift song. Spotify: Looks like Liam Payne's label didn't ask us to put on his old one, so we can take it off anytime we want, let's do that. ^This is how all conversations at Spotify go, FYI, because obvs!^
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Post by Maximillian on Oct 23, 2017 10:12:44 GMT -5
OK, this vid clip has me excited for the era and song all over again.
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Post by Revelry on Oct 23, 2017 10:14:08 GMT -5
I love how big-budget, sfx heavy, and Thriller-esque these videos are turning out to be. Everything looks so expensive. I'm into it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 10:17:09 GMT -5
Can't wait for the second wind this is gonna get. Maybe it can repeak on the Hot 100.
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Post by Choco on Oct 23, 2017 10:17:36 GMT -5
Video will probably be really, really good based on that clip alone.
Hopefully this becomes a solid top 10 hit on Pop at least, for her sake.
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Post by Kologne on Oct 23, 2017 10:21:22 GMT -5
I think that RFI is her best song since New Romantics, I'm glad it gets a single treatment. I'm looking forward for the MV - her visuals never disappoint. Thus, I think it will easily boost its popularity + it's still growing on radio. Let's see if it is able to climb back into the top10 and have a better longevity than controversial Look What You Made Me Do on Hot100.
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Post by QAF on Oct 23, 2017 10:22:41 GMT -5
What happened to Gorgeous? I thought this wasn't the second single.
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Post by g8erboi on Oct 23, 2017 10:23:29 GMT -5
F**k Gorgeous. This was the perfect choice.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 23, 2017 10:31:52 GMT -5
I still really love this song. It is busy and messy, but works for some reason for me.
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Post by nightshade on Oct 23, 2017 10:33:26 GMT -5
Glad this is the second single. It's my favorite of the three songs she's released so far. Thursday can't come soon enough. I really hope this can peak top 5 in pop radio and maybe even beat its previous peak on BBH100.
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Post by aznsinger on Oct 23, 2017 10:34:47 GMT -5
I think that RFI is her best song since New Romantics, I'm glad it gets a single treatment. I'm looking forward for the MV - her visuals never disappoint. Thus, I think it will easily boost its popularity + it's still growing on radio. Let's see if it is able to climb back into the top10 and have a better longevity than controversial Look What You Made Me Do on Hot100. Maybe that was the whole point from the start. She knew LWYMMD wasn’t going to last but this song could. She’s like pulling a Castle On The Hill but even more epic!!!
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Post by Maximillian on Oct 23, 2017 10:35:42 GMT -5
I wonder if she filmed a video for Gorgeous as well? She was seen running through London doing a "sight seeing" tour / filming. This doesn't seem to be what she was filming....
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 23, 2017 10:37:14 GMT -5
That clip looks epic! Although this is #96 on Spotify so it must be epic to help the song.
Why release on Thursday though? Another single on Friday? Lol
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 23, 2017 10:40:23 GMT -5
Lol I just saw the video preview and WOW. Not what I was expecting at all and I literally gasped when she popped up sort of naked.
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Post by NeRD on Oct 23, 2017 10:59:27 GMT -5
Meanwhile, based on early tracking, Gorgeous already has 8 adds on Pop. Hilarious.
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 23, 2017 11:04:36 GMT -5
Meanwhile, based on early tracking, Gorgeous already has 8 adds on Pop. Hilarious. omfg
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Post by Ragin on Oct 23, 2017 11:13:12 GMT -5
Gorgeous is a much better choice.
Honestly I don't like any of it. I don't think this is a good direction for her and ultimately I think it will hurt her.
But the song Gorgeous at least has a chance of bridging both pop and the fan base that likes her as wholesome. I see that as the best chance for a hit that sticks from this album.
The first one and this one may be hot for a short while but I see no longevity for them.
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