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Post by castleoblivion26 on Oct 16, 2017 23:00:46 GMT -5
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Post by Albie on Oct 16, 2017 23:01:04 GMT -5
my guess is Zaclord for doctor correct
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Post by Web on Oct 16, 2017 23:02:00 GMT -5
so Codex was pretty much doomed even if we lynched Zedd today, he would have had to push on me and maybe get me lynched D5 (not that I would have made that easy lol) but then he would have dealt with cleared zaclord after he claimed doc as well as softcleared gravey and milo and only Galaxy Girl as a really hard sell as mafia.
gravey it's great you had the right reads for the last two mafia but without anything in terms of posts or reasoning to back them up no one is going to follow you on them. In the future try quoting the posts that are making you feel scummy about the players, this helps your case get weight.
I always planned to vote Codex D4 (see my ordered list at the start of the day), I just wanted to see his reaction at the start of the day before pushing hard. Not an enviable position subbing in for a mafia D2 with one mafia member already compromised though, Codex's protectives plan had me convinced he was town for a minute until Snark Knight's claim where I had to reconsider a lot of my leans about the game.
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 16, 2017 23:03:25 GMT -5
So I never had the doctor pegged ever. RIP me. First I thought it was Zedd. Then I thought it was Codex. Then I thought it could have been Milo with those 'I think I'm in danger' posts (when you weren't).
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Post by Albie on Oct 16, 2017 23:04:03 GMT -5
Great job town! Great job thewebinator! You are for real the MVP.
Walker you had great instincts but you need to be able to better express them in writing in order to convince others.
It's a good thing I was NKd on N3 because I couldn't let go of how Codex and Barbie never got off that walker train after D3. But it worked out anyway
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Post by Leo ✔ on Oct 16, 2017 23:10:01 GMT -5
Walker you had great instincts but you need to be able to better express them in writing in order to convince others. This exactly! I was like OMG look at gravey playing good/bad He should learn how to focus this energy in order to play better games!
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Post by Albie on Oct 16, 2017 23:11:21 GMT -5
Also yay 3 out of 4 mafia games won (I'm not counting Aunt's last game that fizzled out).
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Post by Albie on Oct 16, 2017 23:12:27 GMT -5
Walker you had great instincts but you need to be able to better express them in writing in order to convince others. This exactly! I was like OMG look at gravey playing good/bad He should learn how to focus this energy in order to play better games! Yeah if walker only expended as much effort in this game as he does on rankdowns...
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 16, 2017 23:15:59 GMT -5
Okay so the green room wasn't as harsh on me as I was expecting. Still, god f**king damn my instincts I was wrong as hell. BTW @antigonerising this legit never even occurred to me 'cause the role description never said that was a thing.
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Post by Web on Oct 16, 2017 23:16:19 GMT -5
also town got really lucky that Broccoli played a poor game as the traitor, made the game much less complicated almost immediately. Took the cool twist out of castleoblivion's setup too which is a shame.
In that scenario Albie's claim D2 with a traitor still alive would have been a lot less concrete and I might not have moved to normusic, idk. Interesting to consider.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 23:16:53 GMT -5
also town got really lucky that Broccoli played a poor game as the traitor, made the game much less complicated almost immediately. Took the cool twist out of castleoblivion's setup too which is a shame. Broccoli should have just revealed as Mayor so he could have been saved, haha.
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 16, 2017 23:18:46 GMT -5
also town got really lucky that Broccoli played a poor game as the traitor, made the game much less complicated almost immediately. Took the cool twist out of castleoblivion's setup too which is a shame. Broccoli should have just revealed as Mayor so he could have been saved, haha. Honestly I think the role was just wasted on him; Broccoli didn't really seem to know just how much he was in for with this game and he was just checked out of the whole thing pretty much from the start.
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Post by Albie on Oct 16, 2017 23:18:53 GMT -5
See it was Codex's plan and the fact he chose not to elaborate on it until D3 started that raised major suspicion with me.
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Post by Web on Oct 16, 2017 23:33:10 GMT -5
also shoutout to miloninja for pretty visibly improving throughout the game from his OMGUS vote on Kunt D1 to coming up with the flavorclaim strategy (that I didn't even notice until he pointed it out) that ended up clearing him D4. He had some unique points for his first game, hope to see him play again and improve further. He just needs to be a little more confident in his own votes/reads and not jump to other wagons only for the sake of it, that can look really scummy. (though can't say that his following didn't help get Codex lynched at the end of D4 with Snark Knight convinced zaclord was the last maf) btw is there a link to the mafia chat room/topic? Curious to read what's there
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 16, 2017 23:47:49 GMT -5
Yay, we did it guys! I'm very proud of town, with zero mislynches!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 0:01:05 GMT -5
Okay so the green room wasn't as harsh on me as I was expecting. Still, god f**king damn my instincts I was wrong as hell. BTW @antigonerising this legit never even occurred to me 'cause the role description never said that was a thing. Oh, don't mind that! I misunderstood what the roles were when I first got to the game room. (in other games deputy is essentially a backup cop)
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 17, 2017 0:36:58 GMT -5
While I am super happy for town, I can't help but think what would have happened if my vote had stayed on Zedd...
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Post by Web on Oct 17, 2017 0:49:30 GMT -5
^also I never understood why gravey thought you making that joke post about killing Max before you were even in the game as a substitute led him to conclude you were going to eventually 1) sub in at some point, 2) sub in as mafia, and 3) kill based on the joke post you made. Maybe after the fact you considered doing it in the maf chat since it was a funny coincidence but that post by itself contains literally no information about your affiliation since it was made before you were a sub haha
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 1:51:31 GMT -5
wow, 4/4 with no mislynches, awesome job town! Really curious to see the green room and know what the mistake was lol. I do want to mention though that we guessed Albie was the cop N1 and roleblocked him. I don't think norm's lynch would have happened if castle didn't accidentally tell Albie the result. I didn't think of it until it was too late, but castle should have switched the NK to albie and then randomly selected another townsperson to promote to sheriff. This way mafia wouldn't have been damaged by a cop read that wasn't supposed to happen, but town would still have gone into D2 with its investigative role. But I think castle wasn't fond of any idea that meant taking albie out of the game because he thought it would be unfairly punishing a player for the game mod's mistake. I do wonder how things would have gone had albie gotten the 'no result' read he was supposed to - he would have likely realized he must have blown his own cover to be getting blocked right away, but then that might have made him even more aggressive about his suspicions.
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Post by rainie on Oct 17, 2017 10:57:25 GMT -5
Wow congrats guys! Has this got to be the shortest game of pulse mafia ever? ;)
Sorry I couldn't contribute more as I spend most of the game being busy and confused. If I play mafia again I'll try to be more present for it though!
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Post by Albie on Oct 17, 2017 11:28:51 GMT -5
Wow congrats guys! Has this got to be the shortest game of pulse mafia ever? ;) Sorry I couldn't contribute more as I spend most of the game being busy and confused. If I play mafia again I'll try to be more present for it though! It was great to have new people playing! Hopefully you won't shy away from another mafia game. I think this game lasted a good while actually. We've definitely had some games where we wrap things up real quick due to mislynches
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 17, 2017 16:38:54 GMT -5
Yay! Congrats everyone! Sorry for not saving anyone as the doctor! I saved Albie after his claim despite thinking he would got blocked, not killed, just in case. Was hoping deputy would catch on which is why I agreed to Codex's plan audibly - to attempt to send a signal to Az, but oh well! Out of curiosity, Codex who would you have killed if we hadn't lynched you?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 7:50:56 GMT -5
This was a fun trial round. thewebinator is a really strong player, clearly.
I think had N1 gone as intended things would have gone better. Kind of sucks that that's how it had to be and Albie would've either had to be forcibly removed from the game for it to work, but I really think that ended up fucking over scum long term. Setup may have been a bit too town favored too. Still, for what it was it was a ton of fun. Hoping I have time to play the next one!
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Post by Albie on Oct 18, 2017 13:06:10 GMT -5
Yeah I definitely want to play the next one. It'd been so long that I'd nearly forgotten how fun these games are.
Funny, I remember our games usually being more favorable to scum so this was an interesting contrast.
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Post by Web on Oct 18, 2017 13:21:06 GMT -5
Definitely looking forward to the next game, I'm definitely in if my schedule isn't too crazy! BackwoodsBarbie I saw you wanted some tips in the green room. I'm pretty garbage at being mafia compared to town so don't take these as gospel but here are a few things that jumped out to me. Incoming wall of text so reader beware: Inactivity - one of the reasons I jumped to you near the end of D3 is you hadn't posted in a while, so the vote was partially to get you to talk and then unfortunately snowballed into your lynch. It's easier as mafia to sit back, watch the game and then dump a bunch of information once or twice a day phase but it's not as helpful to everyone else. I understand time zones and being busy, but you can quote posts of other players that you want more information on and have them return later, see the quotes and make their responses. Interactions with other players - you didn't really ask questions to anyone or press players on their opinions, instead viewing the game from above and sometimes for an extended period of time about the setup rather than analyzing specific posts or players. Some of the other newer players did this too. (gravey especially in the first few day phases) Contradictions - when mafia make those really long list posts stating their opinion on every player, those are a gold mine for town to go through and find contradictions, such as why you were suspicious of gravey for his 100% town remark about normusic but said nothing to me and gave me a strong town lean even though I had defended him on D2 before Albie's claim. Be very careful of those because they stand out when someone goes back to analyze your posts, and be sure to have some type of defense ready if people call them out. ...overall though the timing of your lynch wagon was pretty unfortunate for you and I'm not sure if there's much you could have done about it in the moment, just maybe some things you can look at for next time you draw mafia to avoid the wagon starting in the first place. For the record I had a town lean on you initially so you did a pretty good job at the start of the game imo, only when the pool of players narrowed did I focus in and find some some suspicion.
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Oct 18, 2017 13:33:11 GMT -5
Definitely looking forward to the next game, I'm definitely in if my schedule isn't too crazy! BackwoodsBarbie I saw you wanted some tips in the green room. I'm pretty garbage at being mafia compared to town so don't take these as gospel but here are a few things that jumped out to me. Incoming wall of text so reader beware: Inactivity - one of the reasons I jumped to you near the end of D3 is you hadn't posted in a while, so the vote was partially to get you to talk and then unfortunately snowballed into your lynch. It's easier as mafia to sit back, watch the game and then dump a bunch of information once or twice a day phase but it's not as helpful to everyone else. I understand time zones and being busy, but you can quote posts of other players that you want more information on and have them return later, see the quotes and make their responses. Interactions with other players - you didn't really ask questions to anyone or press players on their opinions, instead viewing the game from above and sometimes for an extended period of time about the setup rather than analyzing specific posts or players. Some of the other newer players did this too. (gravey especially in the first few day phases) Contradictions - when mafia make those really long list posts stating their opinion on every player, those are a gold mine for town to go through and find contradictions, such as why you were suspicious of gravey for his 100% town remark about normusic but said nothing to me and gave me a strong town lean even though I had defended him on D2 before Albie's claim. Be very careful of those because they stand out when someone goes back to analyze your posts, and be sure to have some type of defense ready if people call them out. ...overall though the timing of your lynch wagon was pretty unfortunate for you and I'm not sure if there's much you could have done about it in the moment, just maybe some things you can look at for next time you draw mafia to avoid the wagon starting in the first place. For the record I had a town lean on you initially so you did a pretty good job at the start of the game imo, only when the pool of players narrowed did I focus in and find some some suspicion. Thank you :)
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Oct 24, 2017 20:54:54 GMT -5
just wanted to post here and say thank you to everyone for participating. I only just got internet back yesterday but this is the first time I'm able to get online and post again.
There were many issues with this game and I do apologize to everyone participating and watching as it did screw things up for Mafia I believe. I do think looking back that I should have just had Mafia's choices for Night 1 swapped. Would have sucked for Albie but been more fair for the overall game. Regardless I thank everyone for still playing and being as understanding as everyone has been.
Also the other thing I want to apologize for is how inactive as a host I was. Timing was definitely against me and I thought things were gonna play out a lot differently then they did with my move and it screwed up with my availability for this. I do hope to host another game in the future and would like to see everyone come back and play again and maybe some others to join in as well. Though I do also hope others will host so I can play as well as I love these games.
Anyways that is all, thank again!
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 24, 2017 21:00:43 GMT -5
This was a bunch of fun! Just wondering, will we get to see the mafias chat?
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Oct 24, 2017 21:13:03 GMT -5
This was a bunch of fun! Just wondering, will we get to see the mafias chat? they chatted through pm, I never set up a chat for them which I should have done so, will definitely do so next game though. Not sure if there is any way to share the pm unfortunately
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