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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 26, 2017 11:32:28 GMT -5
Havana will probably be #2 in Radio Songs this week. It looks like Bad at Love will be able to reach the Top 10 by the following week. It also seems Love.'s rise in audience has stalled.\
Also, according to YouTube Music Insights, Gucci Gang was #1 last week, rockstar #2, Bodak Yellow #3, Gummo #4 and Havana #5. Two big surprises for me are New Rules at #10 and Thunder at #20.
In the weekly Spotify, two songs that gained considerably were Candy Paint at #10 and Wolves at #12.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Nov 26, 2017 11:40:22 GMT -5
 at GUMMO reaching the top 40. How is it even doing good? It’s only top 40 in Apple Music and 58 on Spotify blame Youtube |
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Post by ddlz on Nov 26, 2017 12:01:00 GMT -5
Wow Camilla really had some bad luck with the timing for Havana. True. Having said that, should't "Rock star" start losing airplay any day now? It has peaked at Urban and Rhythmic. I guess it depends how well Pop supports it. But if it starts losing points there, maybe...I haven't followed its streaming. Has it started losing in streams at all? Last week: |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Nov 26, 2017 12:17:57 GMT -5
Billboard is wrong about the part I bolded, BTW. It's actually at its eighth nonconsecutive week at #1 on the Streaming Songs chart. |
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Post by ddlz on Nov 26, 2017 12:37:17 GMT -5
Billboard is wrong about the part I bolded, BTW. It's actually at its eighth nonconsecutive week at #1 on the Streaming Songs chart. Billboard is very amateurish nowadays. But these little mistakes are nothing compared to their Gucci Gang mistake, which they didn't even bother to fix. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 26, 2017 12:59:11 GMT -5
^Interestingly, I have posted some mistakes in the Disqus section and within the hour, they fixed them. Although, some never get fixed in their articles.
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Post by fhas on Nov 26, 2017 12:59:24 GMT -5
Billboard is wrong about the part I bolded, BTW. It's actually at its eighth nonconsecutive week at #1 on the Streaming Songs chart. Billboard is very amateurish nowadays. But these little mistakes are nothing compared to their Gucci Gang mistake, which they didn't even bother to fix. Wait until Perfect "surprisingly" hits ~#15 on Streaming Songs chart this week. |
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Post by Soulsista on Nov 26, 2017 16:42:52 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
December 8, 1962
01 01 Big Girls Don't Cry - The Four Seasons (4th of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Return To Sender - Elvis Presley
03 03 Bobby's Girl - Marcie Blane
04 06 Don't Hang Up - The Orlons
05 08 Ride - Dee Dee Sharp
06 07 The Lonely Bull (El Soro Torro) - The Tijuana Brass feat. Herb Alpert
07 13 Telstar - The Tornadoes
08 04 Limbo Rock - Chubby Checker
09 05 All Alone Am I - Brenda Lee
10 16 Release Me - Esther Phillips
December 9, 1967
01 01 Daydream Believer - The Monkees (2nd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 The Rain, The Park And Other Things - The Cowsills
03 03 Incense And Peppermints - Strawberry Alarm Clock
04 05 I Say a Little Prayer - Dionne Warwick
05 08 I Heard It Through The Grapevine - Gladys Knight & The Pips
06 04 To Sir With Love - Lulu
07 11 I Second That Emotion - Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
08 45 Hello, Goodbye - The Beatles
09 13 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross & The Supremes
10 10 An Open Letter To My Teenage Son - Victor Lundberg
December 9, 1972
01 02 I Am Woman - Helen Reddy (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Papa Was a Rollin' Stone - The Temptations
03 05 If You Don't Know Me By Now - Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
04 03 I Can See Clearly Now - Johnny Nash
05 07 You Ought To Be With Me - Al Green
06 13 Me And Mrs. Jones - Billy Paul
07 08 It Never Rains In Southern California - Albert Hammond
08 10 Ventura Highway - America
09 12 Clair - Gilbert O'Sullivan
10 11 I'm Stone In Love With You - The Stylistics
December 10, 1977
01 01 You Light Up My Life - Debby Boone (9th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue - Crystal Gayle
03 03 How Deep Is Your Love - The Bee Gees
04 05 Blue Bayou - Linda Ronstadt
05 09 It's So Easy - Linda Ronstadt
06 06 Heaven On The 7th Floor - Paul Nicholas
07 07 We're All Alone - Rita Coolidge
08 10 (Everytime I Turn Around) Back In Love Again - LTD
09 04 Baby, What a Big Surprise - Chicago
10 11 You Make Loving Fun - Fleetwood Mac
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Post by Soulsista on Nov 26, 2017 17:03:51 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
December 11, 1982
01 03 Mickey - Toni Basil (1st and only week at #1)
02 02 Gloria - Laura Branigan
03 04 Maneater - Daryl Hall & John Oates
04 01 Truly - Lionel Richie
05 08 The Girl Is Mine - Michael Jackson & Paul McCartney
06 07 Steppin' Out - Joe Jackson
07 09 Dirty Laundry - Don Henley
08 12 Sexual Healing - Marvin Gaye
09 11 Rock This Town - The Stray Cats
10 10 Muscles - Diana Ross
December 12, 1987
01 03 Faith - George Michael (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 01 Heaven Is a Place On Earth - Belinda Carlisle
03 04 Should've Known Better - Richard Marx
04 02 (I've Had) The Time Of My Life - Bill Medley & Jennifer Warnes
05 05 Is This Love - Whitesnake
06 06 Shake Your Love - Debbie Gibson
07 08 So Emotional - Whitney Houston
08 07 We'll Be Together - Sting
09 10 Don't You Want Me - Jody Watley
10 11 Got My Mind Set On You - George Harrison
December 12, 1992
01 01 I Will Always Love You - Whitney Houston (3rd of 14 weeks at #1)
02 02 If I Ever Fall In Love - Shai
03 03 Rump Shaker - Wreckx-N-Effect
04 11 In The Still Of The Nite - Boyz II Men
05 04 How Do You Talk To An Angel - The Heights
06 05 I'd Die Without You - P.M. Dawn
07 06 Rhythm Is a Dancer - Snap!
08 08 Good Enough - Bobby Brown
09 07 Real Love - Mary J. Blige
10 09 What About Your Friends - TLC
December 6, 1997
01 01 Candle In The Wind 1997 / Something About The Way You Look Tonight - Elton John (9th of 14 weeks at #1)
02 02 You Make Me Wanna... - Usher
03 03 How Do I Live - LeAnn Rimes
04 05 My Body - LSG
05 04 My Love Is The Shhh! - Somethin' For The People feat. Trina & Tamara
06 06 Tubthumping - Chumbawumba
07 07 Show Me Love - Robyn
08 10 Feel So Good - Mase
09 09 All Cried Out - Allure feat. 112
10 15 I Will Come To You - Hanson
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Post by Soulsista on Nov 26, 2017 17:28:25 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
December 7, 2002
01 01 Lose Yourself - Eminem (5th of 12 weeks at #1)
02 02 Work It - Missy Elliott
03 06 Jenny From The Block - Jennifer Lopez feat. Jadakiss & Styles
04 03 Underneath It All - No Doubt feat. Lady Saw
05 05 The Game Of Love - Santana feat. Michelle Branch
06 04 Luv U Better - LL Cool J
07 08 Gimme The Light - Sean Paul
08 11 '03 Bonnie & Clyde - Jay-Z feat. Beyonce
09 07 Hey Ma - Cam'ron feat. Juelz Santana, Freekey Zekey & Toya
10 12 Air Force Ones - Nelly feat. Kyjuan, Ali & Murphy Lee
December 8, 2007
01 01 No One - Alicia Keys (2nd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 03 Apologize - Timbaland feat. OneRepublic
03 02 Kiss Kiss - Chris Brown feat. T-Pain
04 04 Low - Flo Rida feat. T-Pain
05 06 Crank That (Soulja Boy) - Soulja Boy
06 05 Bubbly - Colbie Caillat
07 08 Clumsy - Fergie
08 07 Good Life - Kanye West feat. T-Pain
09 12 Hate That I Love You - Rihanna feat. Ne-Yo
10 09 Cyclone - Baby Bash feat. T-Pain
December 8, 2012
01 01 Diamonds - Rihanna (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 03 Die Young - Ke$ha
03 02 One More Night - Maroon 5
04 04 Locked Out Of Heaven - Bruno Mars
05 07 Gangnam Style - PSY
06 05 Some Nights - fun.
07 08 Ho Hey - The Lumineers
08 12 Home - Phillip Phillips
09 10 I Cry - Flo Rida
10 06 Let Me Love You (Until You Learn To Love Yourself) - Ne-Yo
18 50 Try - P!nk
25 NE Over You - Cassadee Pope
December 10, 2016
01 01 Black Beatles - Rae Sremmurd feat. Gucci Mane (3rd of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Closer - The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey
03 03 Starboy - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
04 06 24K Magic - Bruno Mars
05 08 Juju On That Beat (TZ Anthem) - Zay Hilfigerrr & Zaylon McCall
06 04 Side To Side - Ariana Grande feat. Nicki Minaj
07 05 Heathens - Twenty One Pilots
08 07 Let Me Love You - DJ Snake feat. Justin Bieber
09 09 Broccoli - D.R.A.M. feat. Lil' Yachty
10 10 Don't Wanna Know - Maroon 5 feat. Kendrick Lamar
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Post by fhas on Nov 26, 2017 19:18:23 GMT -5
December 10, 201601 01 Black Beatles - Rae Sremmurd feat. Gucci Mane (3rd of 7 weeks at #1)02 02 Closer - The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey 03 03 Starboy - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk 04 06 24K Magic - Bruno Mars This may be my favorite top four of the decade. I love Black Beatles, Closer and Starboy (#8, #5 and #10 song respectively last week on last.fm) and 24K Magic is a pretty good song, imo. |
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Nov 26, 2017 20:02:14 GMT -5
Christmas Creep?
2012: AIWFCIY debuts on 12/22 and spends three weeks on chart.
2013: AIWFCIY debuts on 12/21 and spends three weeks on chart.
2014: AIWFCIY debuts on 12/20 and spends three weeks on chart.
2015: AIWFCIY debuts on 12/19 and spends four weeks on chart.
2016: AIWFCIY debuts on 12/17 and spends five weeks on chart.
2017: AIWFCIY debuts on 12/16
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Nov 26, 2017 20:12:26 GMT -5
rockstar is starting to pick up airplay on pop radio, but unfortunately like Black Beatles and Bodak Yellow I think it will probably get bad call-out scores and will be eliminated rather quickly. I think this is a perfect time for Post to push a song to pop radio, like I Fall Apart or Candy Paint or another radio friendly song. He should capitalize on rockstar's success and attempt to reach many audiences as possible. The callout scores for Rockstar are already in (and have been for 2 or 3 weeks) and they're good. It's the third least disliked song, and the sixth highest favorite. Big difference from Bodak Yellow, which came in with the highest negative. Where can I find this data? |
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Nov 26, 2017 20:15:10 GMT -5
Thunder has now surpassed Believer's Overall AI peak (160.9 M), falling just short of Demons for Imagine Dragons' biggest radio hit (166.2 M). It'll surpass it within the next few days, for sure. PS: Radioactive is only their 4th-biggest song on radio (157.3 M).WTF. Each time I see any number like this where the biggest overall hit isn't the biggest on radio I wonder how tf airplay accounts for 30-35% of the Hot 100 points. One of the biggest hits of the decade had less audience impressions at its peak than Demons, Thunder and Believer. That's because you're only looking at its radio peak. Radioactive's real claim to fame is its longevity. |
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Nov 26, 2017 20:20:32 GMT -5
How is it even doing good? It’s only top 40 in Apple Music and 58 on Spotify Must be doing well on YouTube since it has 33 million views so far. Man, America really needs to stop making terrible people popular. Gummo sounds awful to me. Lol. I love Gucci Gang and most of XXX's songs. But this honestly just sounds like a bunch of yelling to me. But I can't hate on it because it's a distinctive unique sound and it seems to be coming up organically. Plus, the guy's whole tats, hair, grill, and image is IMO really cool looking. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 26, 2017 20:49:56 GMT -5
The callout scores for Rockstar are already in (and have been for 2 or 3 weeks) and they're good. It's the third least disliked song, and the sixth highest favorite. Big difference from Bodak Yellow, which came in with the highest negative. Where can I find this data? |
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Post by djkhaled on Nov 26, 2017 21:17:02 GMT -5
Where can I find this data? Why is its score so low? Even lower than tailor? |
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 26, 2017 21:25:42 GMT -5
Why is its score so low? Even lower than tailor? Click on the headers to organize them by those scores. |
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Post by djkhaled on Nov 26, 2017 21:26:28 GMT -5
Why is its score so low? Even lower than tailor? Click on the headers to organize them by those scores. Yeah but what is "pop score"and why is it the default |
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 26, 2017 21:30:21 GMT -5
Click on the headers to organize them by those scores. Yeah but what is "pop score"and why is it the default It's not the default, it's just the first column. The most notable ones are the positive, favorite, negative, burn, and familiarity. |
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Post by djkhaled on Nov 26, 2017 21:33:18 GMT -5
Yeah but what is "pop score"and why is it the default It's not the default, it's just the first column. The most notable ones are the positive, favorite, negative, burn, and familiarity. ie default. I have no idea what any of that means though. Is pop score just an aggregate? And what's burn? Did LWYMMD actually get low scores or just lose payola? Sorry for so many questions lol I'v never seen this stuff. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 26, 2017 21:41:23 GMT -5
ie default. I have no idea what any of that means though. Is pop score just an aggregate? And what's burn? Did LWYMMD actually get low scores or just lose payola? Sorry for so many questions lol I'v never seen this stuff. It is an aggregate, but I think it's a bit separate from the other data on the list. I don't know how each part is taken as a percentage of it. Burn is the burnout rate of the song, the lower it is, the less audiences are tired of hearing it. Normally, it's the songs that have been around the longest, or have bad results elsewhere in the scores that have the highest burn rates. LWYMMD has the second highest negative, which is very high (hard rap tracks like BY always get high negatives, so it's an expected outlier in that sense), and positive and favorite scores on the lower end. Pop songs usually don't get a negative that high, so it all adds up to a negative overall impression. |
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Post by djkhaled on Nov 26, 2017 21:42:34 GMT -5
ie default. I have no idea what any of that means though. Is pop score just an aggregate? And what's burn? Did LWYMMD actually get low scores or just lose payola? Sorry for so many questions lol I'v never seen this stuff. It is an aggregate, but I think it's separate from the other data on the list. Burn is the burnout rate of the song, the lower it is, the less audiences are tired of hearing it. Normally, it's the songs that have been around the longest, or have bad results elsewhere in the scores that have the highest burn rates. LWYMMD has the second highest negative, which is very high (hard rap tracks like BY always get high negatives, so it's an expected outlier in that sense), and positive and favorite scores on the lower end. Pop songs usually don't get a negative that high, so it all adds up to a negative overall impression. If rap does so badly then why do they play it? |
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 26, 2017 21:47:32 GMT -5
It is an aggregate, but I think it's separate from the other data on the list. Burn is the burnout rate of the song, the lower it is, the less audiences are tired of hearing it. Normally, it's the songs that have been around the longest, or have bad results elsewhere in the scores that have the highest burn rates. LWYMMD has the second highest negative, which is very high (hard rap tracks like BY always get high negatives, so it's an expected outlier in that sense), and positive and favorite scores on the lower end. Pop songs usually don't get a negative that high, so it all adds up to a negative overall impression. If rap does so badly then why do they play it? If it's sent to that format, they will usually start playing it, especially if it's a crossover from another format where it has done/is doing very well. Callout doesn't come in until there is at least 60% familiarity from the testing audience. If Program Directors see a very high negative response, they will start decreasing the amount of plays for those songs. That's why harder rap tracks usually crack the top 20 at best (i.e. Bounce Back reached #17, Humble got to #25). These scores are also an overall picture. In some markets, like cities where there are Urban stations that have been playing them already, they may get a warmer reception than other places. |
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Post by forg on Nov 26, 2017 23:24:59 GMT -5
All I Want For Christmas is You is doing well on Spotify. I wonder how high will it go this year
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 27, 2017 0:02:10 GMT -5
^I'm personally hoping it will be able to finally reach the top 10.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Nov 27, 2017 9:15:17 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 11/27/20171. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (162.328) (+0.683) 2. (+1) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (146.358) (+3.580) 3. (-1) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (144.096) (-0.940) 4. (=) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (120.631) (+0.851) 5. (=) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (119.351) (+1.088) 6. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (108.964) (+1.414) 7. (+1) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (105.286) (+0.214) 8. (-1) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (105.218) (-0.126) 9. (=) P!NK - What About Us (93.983) (-2.490) 10. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (87.381) (-0.575) 11. (+3) HALSEY - Bad At Love (86.278) (+1.885) 12. (-1) LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid (86.053) (-1.335) 13. (=) J BALVIN - Mi Gente f/Willy William (85.889) (+0.278) 14. (-2) KESHA - Praying (85.395) (-0.985) 15. (=) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (77.063) (-0.827) 16. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (76.377) (-1.366) 17. (=) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (73.123) (-0.232) 18. (=) TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It (72.447) (+0.419) 19. (=) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (70.044) (-1.851) 20. (=) LANCO - Greatest Love Story (69.199) (-0.328) Others: 21. (+1) G-EAZY - No Limit f/A$AP Rocky, Cardi B (68.142) (+1.204) 25. (=) GARTH BROOKS - Ask Me How I Know (62.671) (+1.251) 31. (=) DUA LIPA - New Rules (55.296) (+1.270) 32. (+2) CHARLIE PUTH - How Long (53.060) (+1.738) *** 39. (+2) GUCCI MANE - I Get The Bag f/Migos (47.740) (+1.111) 55. (+6) SELENA GOMEZ X MARSHMELLO - Wolves (33.300) (+3.071) *** 70. (+10) TAYLOR SWIFT - End Game f/Ed Sheeran/Future (25.273) (+1.394)
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Post by fhas on Nov 27, 2017 9:30:33 GMT -5
Sorry Not Sorry - Kworb Update
Last Monday (Nov. 20): 105.287
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Post by C.Ro on Nov 27, 2017 9:48:44 GMT -5
How much time left to know how the Hot 100 ended?
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Post by NeRD on Nov 27, 2017 10:00:17 GMT -5
How much time left to know how the Hot 100 ended? Usually between 1:30PM - 2:00PM Eastern |
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at GUMMO reaching the top 40. 
