Billboard Hot 100: 12/9/2017

[Golden Bluebird]

The Top 10:

1. Post Malone feat. 21 Savage – "Rockstar" (1-1; 7th week at #1)
2. Camila Cabello feat. Young Thug – "Havana" (2-2)
3. Lil Pump – "Gucci Gang" (3-3)
4. Imagine Dragons – "Thunder " (4-4)
5. Ed Sheeran – "Perfect" (7-5)
6. Cardi B – "Bodak Yellow " (5-6)
7. Sam Smith – "Too Good at Goodbyes" (6-7)
8. Portugal. The Man – "Feel It Still" (9-8)
9. Demi Lovato – "Sorry Not Sorry" (12-9)
10. Maroon 5 feat. SZA – "What Lovers Do" (11-10)

Source: www.msn.com/en-us/music/story/early-release-billboard-hot-100-top-10-december-9th-2017-countdown-official/vp-BBFP4ni

Outside the Top 10 (according to Billboard's Facebook livestream and Gary Trust's tweets):
11. G-Eazy feat. ASAP Rocky and Cardi B – "No Limit" (13-11)
14. Halsey - "Bad at Love" (17-14)
18. Dua Lipa - "New Rules" (19-18)
20. Selena Gomez & Marshmello – "Wolves (51-20)
22. Khalid – "Young Dumb & Broke" (29-22)
24. Taylor Swift – "...Ready for It?" (18-24)
42. Bebe Rexha feat. Florida Georgia Line - "Meant to Be" (53-42)
47. Luis Fonsi and Demi Lovato - "Echema La Culpa" (NEW)
86. Taylor Swift feat. Ed Sheeran & Future – "End Game" (NEW)

[C.Ro]

Damn, No Limit missed it again

[inverse]

uhh Sorry Not Sorry WTF. Did it get some sort of boost or is this because 1-800, What Lovers Do, and Mi Gente dropped below it?

[fhas]

Nov 27, 2017 13:03:52 GMT -5 inverse said:

uhh Sorry Not Sorry WTF. Did it get some sort of boost or is this because 1-800, What Lovers Do, and Mi Gente dropped below it?

According to my estimated numbers:

Sales: +5.5k
Airplay: =
Streams: +1.3M YouTube views

+7.1% overall 

[Au$tin]

Nov 27, 2017 13:03:52 GMT -5 inverse said:

uhh Sorry Not Sorry WTF. Did it get some sort of boost or is this because 1-800, What Lovers Do, and Mi Gente dropped below it?

AMAs

[thelegends]

NEW Charting Songs Predictions:
27- Échame La Culpa - Luis Fonsi
63- The Beautiful And Damned - G Eazy
70-74 - LUV IS RAGE 2 New Songs - Lil Uzi
76- Save That S**t - Lil Peep
80- End Game - Taylor Swift
83- Benz Truck - Lil Peep
85- Awful Things - Lil Peep
88- Boss - Lil Pump
90- I Miss You - Clean Bandit
92- Faking It - Calvin Harris
95- No Smoke - NBA Youngboy
97- Legends - Kelsea Ballerini
98- D Rose - Lil Pump
99- New Freezer - Rich The Kid ft THE GOAT
100- Why - Sabrina Carpenter

[thelegends]

Nov 27, 2017 13:28:37 GMT -5 thelegends said:

NEW Charting Songs Predictions:
27- Échame La Culpa - Luis Fonsi
63- The Beautiful And Damned - G Eazy
70-74 - LUV IS RAGE 2 New Songs - Lil Uzi
76- Save That S**t - Lil Peep
80- End Game - Taylor Swift
83- Benz Truck - Lil Peep
85- Awful Things - Lil Peep
88- Boss - Lil Pump
90- I Miss You - Clean Bandit
92- Faking It - Calvin Harris
95- No Smoke - NBA Youngboy
97- Legends - Kelsea Ballerini
98- D Rose - Lil Pump
99- New Freezer - Rich The Kid ft THE GOAT
100- Why - Sabrina Carpenter

As for Billboard Breakdown, if my predictions are true, then BOTW to I Miss You and HM to Legends, while WOTW to Save That and DHM to Awful Things

[fhas]

Nov 26, 2017 12:59:24 GMT -5 fhas said:

Nov 26, 2017 12:37:17 GMT -5 ddlz said:

Billboard is very amateurish nowadays. But these little mistakes are nothing compared to their Gucci Gang mistake, which they didn't even bother to fix.

Wait until Perfect "surprisingly" hits ~#15 on Streaming Songs chart this week.

"Perfect" remains at No. 3 on Digital Song Sales (60,000, down 6 percent) and powers 10-6 on Radio Songs (80 million, up 10 percent) and 38-15 on Streaming Songs (18.9 million, up 61 percent); its official video dropped Nov. 9.

[jebsib]

I agree; This is nothing like 2002 - 2005 when Urban monopolized the top 10.

[MilesW1998]

Nov 27, 2017 16:01:27 GMT -5 Codex said:

Nov 27, 2017 12:40:49 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

The Top 10:

1. Post Malone feat. 21 Savage – "Rockstar" (1-1; 7th week at #1)
2. Camila Cabello feat. Young Thug – "Havana" (2-2)
3. Lil Pump – "Gucci Gang" (3-3)
4. Imagine Dragons – "Thunder " (4-4)
5. Ed Sheeran – "Perfect" (7-5)
6. Cardi B – "Bodak Yellow " (5-6)
7. Sam Smith – "Too Good at Goodbyes" (6-7)
8. Portugal. The Man – "Feel It Still" (9-8)
9. Demi Lovato – "Sorry Not Sorry" (12-9)
10. Maroon 5 feat. SZA – "What Lovers Do" (11-10)

No matter what anyone says, I think this is a pretty nice diverse top 10.

Three Urban songs, two pop ballads, a tropical house, two alternative-rock, latin-pop and whatever SNS is.

Hopefully New Rules and Wolves enter soon, so there'll be some harder EDM songs too.

I mostly just categorize SNS as gospel pop if you ask me. 

[Spidey]

Nov 27, 2017 13:26:05 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Nov 27, 2017 13:03:52 GMT -5 inverse said:

uhh Sorry Not Sorry WTF. Did it get some sort of boost or is this because 1-800, What Lovers Do, and Mi Gente dropped below it?

AMAs

The impact from the AMAs would not be felt on this Hot 100. The sales and streaming tracking periods ended Friday, not Sunday. The AMA affect will be on the next Hot 100.

[Au$tin]

Nov 27, 2017 16:11:28 GMT -5 Spidey said:

Nov 27, 2017 13:26:05 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

AMAs

The impact from the AMAs would not be felt on this Hot 100. The sales and streaming tracking periods ended Friday, not Sunday. The AMA affect will be on the next Hot 100.

Huh? Weren't the AMAs on the 19th? That would put it in this Hot 100s timeframe: sales/streaming 17-23 airplay 20-26.

[deepston]

How close are Havana and rockstar? Will the next week be Camilla's lucky week?

[fhas]

Points - simmnfierzig formula

rockstar 51,900 (+10.8%)
Havana 48,100 (+18.7%)

1.077:1 lead


Points - HDD's formula *adjusted

rockstar 52,700 (+11.5%)
Havana 49,400 (+17.5%)

1.067:1 lead

[deepston]

Wow that's close. I suggest a Pulse streaming party for Havana, let's claim the #1 for our pop bops  :kii:

[fhas]

Nov 27, 2017 16:54:25 GMT -5 deepston said:

Wow that's close. I suggest a Pulse streaming party for Havana, let's claim the #1 for our pop bops 

Let me stream rockstar 

...Uh oh... I'm not from the United States  :'(

[deepston]

Nov 27, 2017 16:56:13 GMT -5 fhas said:

Nov 27, 2017 16:54:25 GMT -5 deepston said:

Wow that's close. I suggest a Pulse streaming party for Havana, let's claim the #1 for our pop bops 

Let me stream rockstar 

...Uh oh... I'm not from the United States 

Let the girl have a week at #1. I'd settle for the year if this song got #1 for 1 week lol

According to Kworb she got 91k sales against 59k for rockstar.

[fhas]

Nov 27, 2017 16:57:54 GMT -5 deepston said:

Nov 27, 2017 16:56:13 GMT -5 fhas said:

Let me stream rockstar 

...Uh oh... I'm not from the United States 

Let the girl have a week at #1. I'd settle for the year if this song got #1 for 1 week lol

According to Kworb she got 91k sales against 59k for rockstar.

Actually, according to Billboard it was 85k vs. 58k

[deepston]

Nov 27, 2017 17:00:37 GMT -5 fhas said:

Nov 27, 2017 16:57:54 GMT -5 deepston said:

Let the girl have a week at #1. I'd settle for the year if this song got #1 for 1 week lol

According to Kworb she got 91k sales against 59k for rockstar.

Actually, according to Billboard it was 85k vs. 58k

70k from the original and 21k from the remix.
Are those you're saying from Billboard?

[skizzo]

What Lovers Do tropical house is stretching the definition of the genre quite a bit...

[fhas]

Nov 27, 2017 17:01:35 GMT -5 deepston said:

Nov 27, 2017 17:00:37 GMT -5 fhas said:

Actually, according to Billboard it was 85k vs. 58k

70k from the original and 21k from the remix.
Are those you're saying from Billboard?

Yes. Billboard didn't say what percentage the remix sold like they did with Despacito's remix.

[deepston]

Nov 27, 2017 17:03:28 GMT -5 fhas said:

Nov 27, 2017 17:01:35 GMT -5 deepston said:

70k from the original and 21k from the remix.
Are those you're saying from Billboard?

Yes. Billboard didn't say what percentage the remix sold like they did with Despacito's remix.

That's weird! Is it normal that kworb is so off like this? This is an awkward situation more so because the songs are so close in points.

[mako]

Nov 27, 2017 17:05:04 GMT -5 deepston said:

Nov 27, 2017 17:03:28 GMT -5 fhas said:

Yes. Billboard didn't say what percentage the remix sold like they did with Despacito's remix.

That's weird! Is it normal that kworb is so off like this? This is an awkward situation more so because the songs are so close in points.

kworb makes estimates,not the actual total.

[fhas]

Nov 27, 2017 17:05:04 GMT -5 deepston said:

Nov 27, 2017 17:03:28 GMT -5 fhas said:

Yes. Billboard didn't say what percentage the remix sold like they did with Despacito's remix.

That's weird! Is it normal that kworb is so off like this? This is an awkward situation more so because the songs are so close in points.

It is normal. He's pretty accurate in terms of positions but sometimes he overestimate/underestimate the final numbers.Also, this week was hard to predict because of the AMAs effect. 

[Dylan :)]

Come on Bad At Love..

[Troublemaker]

Why are people surprised this is STILL no1?
He just dropped the video so that's double points from streaming video and audio.

[Sherane Lamar]

So is Lil Peep the second ever artist to debut on the Hot 100 after his death?

The only other artist I'm aware of who did that is Leonard Cohen.

[Sherane Lamar]

Nov 27, 2017 13:28:37 GMT -5 thelegends said:

NEW Charting Songs Predictions:
27- Échame La Culpa - Luis Fonsi
63- The Beautiful And Damned - G Eazy
70-74 - LUV IS RAGE 2 New Songs - Lil Uzi
76- Save That S**t - Lil Peep
80- End Game - Taylor Swift
83- Benz Truck - Lil Peep
85- Awful Things - Lil Peep
88- Boss - Lil Pump
90- I Miss You - Clean Bandit
92- Faking It - Calvin Harris
95- No Smoke - NBA Youngboy
97- Legends - Kelsea Ballerini
98- D Rose - Lil Pump
99- New Freezer - Rich The Kid ft THE GOAT
100- Why - Sabrina Carpenter

Where are you getting this from? 

This is a shit ton of new songs, btw. 

[Spidey]

Nov 27, 2017 16:22:20 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Nov 27, 2017 16:11:28 GMT -5 Spidey said:

The impact from the AMAs would not be felt on this Hot 100. The sales and streaming tracking periods ended Friday, not Sunday. The AMA affect will be on the next Hot 100.

Huh? Weren't the AMAs on the 19th? That would put it in this Hot 100s timeframe: sales/streaming 17-23 airplay 20-26.

Wait nevermind. Got my weeks mixed up.

[areyoureadytojump]

www.billboard.com/biz/articles/8047011/post-malones-rockstar-rules-billboard-hot-100-ed-sheerans-perfect-hits-top-five

Post Malone's 'Rockstar' Rules Billboard Hot 100, Ed Sheeran's 'Perfect' Hits Top Five
By Gary Trust | November 27, 2017

"Rockstar" ties for the longest-leading No. 1 with "rock" in its title.

Aided by the arrival of its official video, Post Malone's "Rockstar," featuring 21 Savage, tops the Billboard Hot 100 chart (dated Dec. 9) for a seventh week.

Plus, Ed Sheeran's "Perfect" rises 7-5 on the Hot 100, becoming the second-highest-charting hit from his album ÷.

As we do every Monday, let's run down the top 10 of the Hot 100, which blends all-genre streaming, airplay and sales data. All charts will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (Nov. 28).

Rockstar," released on Republic Records, tallies a ninth (nonconsecutive) week at No. 1 on the Streaming Songs chart, with 55.3 million U.S. streams (up 12 percent), in the week ending Nov. 23, according to Nielsen Music. It also makes twin 5-4 rises on Digital Song Sales, which it led for a week, with 58,000 downloads sold (up 10 percent) in the week ending Nov. 23, and on Radio Songs, with 86 million in all-format audience (up 6 percent) in the week ending Nov. 26.

Helping the song gain: its "ultraviolent" official video premiered Nov. 21.

Meanwhile, Post Malone polishes off a "rock" record: With a seventh week atop the Hot 100, "Rockstar" ties Joan Jett & the Blackhearts' "I Love Rock & Roll" (seven weeks, 1982) for the most weeks on top among No. 1s with "rock" in their titles.

"Rockstar" concurrently leads the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Rap Songs charts for a seventh week each.

Camila Cabello's "Havana," featuring Young Thug, spends a fourth week at its No. 2 high on the Hot 100. It logs a second week at No. 1 on Digital Song Sales (85,000, up 14 percent) and holds at No. 3 on both Radio Songs (105 million, up 20 percent, good for the Hot 100's top Airplay Gainer award for a third straight week) and Streaming Songs (40.2 million, up 20 percent). As previously reported, "Havana" becomes Cabello's second solo No. 1 on the Pop Songs airplay chart.

"Rockstar" and "Havana" have now ranked at Nos. 1 and 2, respectively, on the Hot 100 for four consecutive weeks, and, for a second week in a row, both songs gain in all metrics, with "Havana" tightening the gap between the two: "Havana" increases by 19 percent in overall Hot 100 points, while "Rockstar" rises by 11 percent.

Lil Pump's "Gucci Gang" keeps at its No. 3 Hot 100 peak, driven most heavily by its No. 2 rank on Streaming Songs (49.8 million, up 11 percent), helped by its usage in user-generated viral videos. On Digital Song Sales, the track dips 18-19 but with a 10 percent gain to 20,000 sold.

Imagine Dragons' "Thunder" is steady at its No. 4 Hot 100 high and crowns Radio Songs, where it's the group's first No. 1, for a second week (121 million, up 5 percent). It also becomes the band's second No. 1 on Adult Pop Songs, following prior single "Believer." "Thunder," which Imagine Dragons performed on the American Music Awards Nov. 19 in a medley with Khalid's "Young Dumb & Broke" (which climbs to a new peak, 29-22, on the Hot 100) pushes 4-2 on Digital Song Sales (66,000, up 17 percent) and 21-20 on Streaming Songs (18.3 million, up 7 percent). On Hot Rock Songs, "Thunder" reigns for a fourth week.

Rounding out the Hot 100's top five, Ed Sheeran's "Perfect" reaches the region (7-5), becoming the second-highest-charting hit from his album ÷, following "Shape of You" (12 weeks at No. 1). "Perfect" passes "Castle on the Hill," which debuted and peaked at No. 6. "Perfect" is Sheeran's third top five hit overall; his first, "Thinking Out Loud," rose to No. 2, for eight weeks, in 2015.

"Perfect" remains at No. 3 on Digital Song Sales (60,000, down 6 percent) and powers 10-6 on Radio Songs (80 million, up 10 percent) and 38-15 on Streaming Songs (18.9 million, up 61 percent); its official video dropped Nov. 9.

Cardi B's former three-week Hot 100 No. 1 "Bodak Yellow (Money Moves)" descends 5-6 and Sam Smith's "Too Good at Goodbyes" slips 6-7, after reaching No. 4.

Like Imagine Dragons' "Thunder," two other songs scale the Hot 100's top 10 following performances at the American Music Awards: Portugal. The Man's "Feel It Still" (9-8, after hitting No. 4) and Demi Lovato's "Sorry Not Sorry" (12-9, after hitting No. 6, her highest career rank). The former gains by 25 percent to 33,000 sold, and the latter leaps by 32 percent to 26,000.

Capping the Hot 100's top 10, Maroon 5's "What Lovers Do," featuring SZA, returns to the region (11-10), after reaching No. 9 two weeks ago. It rises 6-5 on Radio Songs (85 million, up 6 percent), becoming Maroon 5's 12th top five hit, extending its record for the most among groups in the chart's 27-year history; Boyz II Men and Destiny's Child follow with eight each.


Outside the Hot 100's top 10, one more song performed at the AMAs makes a notable surge to the top 20, while also fueled by the Nov. 18 debut of its official video: Selena Gomez and Marshmello's "Wolves," which soars 51-20. The collab vaults 34-5 on Digital Song Sales (35,000, up 194 percent, marking the Hot 100's top sales gain) and 44-24 on Streaming Songs (16.5 million, up 46 percent) and enters Radio Songs at No. 47 (23 million, up 25 percent). Marshmello makes his first trip to the Hot 100's top 20, while Gomez earns her 11th appearance, and first since "Bad Liar" reached No. 20 in July.

"Wolves" additionally tops Hot Dance/Electronic Songs for a second (nonconsecutive) week, dethroning Marshmello's other current hit, "Silence," featuring Khalid.

Find out more Hot 100 news in the weekly "Hot 100 Chart Moves" column and by listening (and subscribing) to Billboard's Chart Beat Podcast and Pop Shop Podcast, all posting this week. And again, be sure to visit Billboard.com tomorrow (Nov. 28), when all charts, including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh. The Hot 100 and other charts will also appear in the next issue of Billboard magazine, on sale Friday (Dec. 1).