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Post by forg on Dec 16, 2017 23:10:13 GMT -5
I hope Perfect stays at #1
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Post by rickroller on Dec 17, 2017 7:03:25 GMT -5
How much sales does a song need to chart in the Hot 100? 25k? Even 1k but with huge amount of bought youtube views. |
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Post by rimetm on Dec 17, 2017 7:28:30 GMT -5
Without any other metrics, you need ~30k. The Total Eclipse of the Heart cover, which had basically nil streaming and wasn't sent to radio, debuted at #99 with 31,000 sales.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Dec 17, 2017 9:15:14 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 12/17/20171. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (177.784) (+2.204) 2. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (158.915) (+2.365) 3. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (140.139) (-1.443) 4. (=) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (129.667) (+0.064) 5. (+1) HALSEY - Bad At Love (120.110) (+1.581) 6. (-1) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (119.159) (-1.107) 7. (+1) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (108.374) (+0.213) 8. (-1) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (108.352) (-1.607) 9. (=) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (88.566) (-0.167) 10. (+1) DUA LIPA - New Rules (84.307) (+1.460) 11. (-1) KENDRICK LAMAR - LOVE. (83.766) (+0.622) 12. (=) G-EAZY - No Limit f/A$AP Rocky, Cardi B (76.947) (-0.216) 13. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (70.297) (-1.296) 14. (=) BLAKE SHELTON - I'll Name The Dogs (69.424) (+0.534) 15. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - How Long (67.693) (+0.305) 16. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (66.559) (+0.314) 17. (+1) BRETT YOUNG - Like I Loved You (62.818) (+0.989) 18. (-1) J BALVIN - Mi Gente f/Willy William (60.587) (-2.112) 19. (=) GUCCI MANE - I Get The Bag f/Migos (58.782) (-0.216) 20. (=) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (57.104) (-0.800) Others: 25. (+3) TAYLOR SWIFT - End Game f/Ed Sheeran/Future (55.172) (+1.637) 28. (+1) SELENA GOMEZ X MARSHMELLO - Wolves (53.309) (+1.128) 30. (=) MAX - Lights Down Low (52.466) (+1.010) 72. (+2) MIDLAND - Make A Little (26.191) (+1.098) 73. (+8) G-EAZY & HALSEY - Him & I (25.873) (+2.860)
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Dec 17, 2017 10:44:14 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 17, 2017 10:51:24 GMT -5
Where are most of the point for "MotorSport" coming from? I know streaming, but it isn't all that high at Spotify.
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Post by Glove Slap on Dec 17, 2017 10:52:37 GMT -5
If I Fall Apart ends up hitting the top 10 at a later point, when was the last occurrence that an album produced a Hot 100 top 10 after a single from the followup album had done so? Where are most of the point for "MotorSport" coming from? I know streaming, but it isn't all that high at Spotify. It's #2 on Apple Music, and it will receive points from the video as well. kworb.net/charts/apple_s/us.html |
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Post by Someone on Dec 17, 2017 11:14:12 GMT -5
Hopefully How Long and Meant to be will rebound
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Dec 17, 2017 11:18:59 GMT -5
Simm never puts the artists in his post, which can be a bit confusing for the debuts. I'mma try to clear it up for you guys:
54-Never Be The Same = Camila Cabello
56-Go Legend = Big Sean
69-You Make It Feel Like Christmas = Gwen Stefani
76-Untouchable = Eminem
85-Ice Tray = Quality Control
88-Pull Up N Wreck = NOT A DEBUT
89-Big Bidness = Big Sean
90-Dark Knight Dummo = Trippie Redd
99-So Good = Big Sean???
100-A Girl Like You = I have no idea. Justin Bieber? Easton Corbin?
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Dec 17, 2017 11:36:41 GMT -5
After well forever, End Game has reached the top 50 of Spotify.
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Post by thelegends on Dec 17, 2017 11:46:50 GMT -5
Simm never puts the artists in his post, which can be a bit confusing for the debuts. I'mma try to clear it up for you guys: 54-Never Be The Same = Camila Cabello 56-Go Legend = Big Sean 69-You Make It Feel Like Christmas = Gwen Stefani 76-Untouchable = Eminem 85-Ice Tray = Quality Control 88-Pull Up N Wreck = NOT A DEBUT 89-Big Bidness = Big Sean 90-Dark Knight Dummo = Trippie Redd 99-So Good = Big Sean??? 100-A Girl Like You = I have no idea. Justin Bieber? Easton Corbin? A Girl Like You = Easton Corbin |
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Post by smiley22 on Dec 17, 2017 12:02:14 GMT -5
If All I Want for Christmas is You hits the top 10, it will be the first time a recurrent song has done so since the chart week of May 14, 2016, when When Doves Cry (#7) and Purple Rain (#4) ascended following Prince's death. The only other occurrence of this was during the chart weeks of February 25 and March 3, 2012, when I Will Always Love You re-entered at #7 and subsequently surged to #3. It will also be the first time a recurrent song enters the top 10 without being prompted by a death. Who wants to bet the article will have basically this statistic with the conditionals removed? After reading this, no need to check Billboard. Lol😄😘😉 |
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Post by leonagwen on Dec 17, 2017 12:31:38 GMT -5
Simms predicts Rockstar for #1? I think Perfect gets #1 again.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Dec 17, 2017 12:33:10 GMT -5
Simms predicts Rockstar for #1? I think Perfect gets #1 again. The points Simm predicted for these two songs are really close that I think it could go either way. |
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Post by Gary on Dec 17, 2017 12:35:55 GMT -5
If All I Want for Christmas is You hits the top 10, it will be the first time a recurrent song has done so since the chart week of May 14, 2016, when When Doves Cry (#7) and Purple Rain (#4) ascended following Prince's death. The only other occurrence of this was during the chart weeks of February 25 and March 3, 2012, when I Will Always Love You re-entered at #7 and subsequently surged to #3. It will also be the first time a recurrent song enters the top 10 without being prompted by a death. Who wants to bet the article will have basically this statistic with the conditionals removed? Go back further there are several examples of songs hitting the top 10 for the first time in a second chart run for reasons other than death. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 13:21:57 GMT -5
Yaas at New Rules, Sky Walker, LOVE, & The Weekend most likely going to make gains
Thats a set of songs I really want to see do well and possibly make top 10, if not top 15 maybe
Also I just realized Miguel never even made the top 15 with Adorn or any of his solo songs, only making it their by featuring on Mariah's "Beautiful".
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 17, 2017 13:49:48 GMT -5
What's crazy about "AIWFCIY" likely finally becoming a top 10 hit is how it has been top 10 in so many metrics already. The year it was released it hit #9 at Top 40 and #6 at AC. It was top 10 on Digital Songs several years in the 00s, including getting to #1 during the 2005 holiday season. It has made the top 10 in streaming several times in the past few years. So, all of that without ever making the top 10. Crazy.
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Dec 17, 2017 13:59:23 GMT -5
After well forever, End Game has reached the top 50 of Spotify. Pretty sure it wasn't even on Spotify until a few days ago. |
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Post by CF15 on Dec 17, 2017 14:01:33 GMT -5
I'm guessing "Perfect Symphony" with Andrea Bocelli will also count towards the total points of "Perfect"? Yet another version of "Perfect"; it really seems like Ed is desperate to keep that #1, lol. I really wanted "rockstar" to get to 10 weeks at #1, though. :(
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Dec 17, 2017 16:15:35 GMT -5
I'm guessing "Perfect Symphony" with Andrea Bocelli will also count towards the total points of "Perfect"? Yet another version of "Perfect"; it really seems like Ed is desperate to keep that #1, lol. I really wanted "rockstar" to get to 10 weeks at #1, though.  Just seems like a really weird gimmick. Somebody earlier was talking about how there is kind of a grey area between a remix and just an entirely different song. Like how Black Barbies obviously doesn't count towards Black Beatles. I'm thinking Ed is right on the line of that grey area right now. |
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Post by CF15 on Dec 17, 2017 16:46:54 GMT -5
I'm guessing "Perfect Symphony" with Andrea Bocelli will also count towards the total points of "Perfect"? Yet another version of "Perfect"; it really seems like Ed is desperate to keep that #1, lol. I really wanted "rockstar" to get to 10 weeks at #1, though. Just seems like a really weird gimmick. Somebody earlier was talking about how there is kind of a grey area between a remix and just an entirely different song. Like how Black Barbies obviously doesn't count towards Black Beatles. I'm thinking Ed is right on the line of that grey area right now. Wait, so there is a chance that it won't count? I can't really say my opinion, since I haven't heard the symphony version of the song. Even if it doesn't count, though, "Perfect" is still gaining fast on radio, while "rockstar" is on its way down on everything, so, even if this version does not count, "Perfect" will probably return to #1 in a couple weeks. It's just a question of who will be #1 these next couple of weeks, and that will depend on whether or not all three versions will count towards total sales and streams. |
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Post by Gary on Dec 17, 2017 16:50:42 GMT -5
If the "remix" makes it a materially different song, I won't count
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Post by CF15 on Dec 17, 2017 17:03:12 GMT -5
I just listened to a snippet of it, and it doesn't sound very different from the original at all, so I imagine it will count.
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Dec 17, 2017 17:13:53 GMT -5
If the "remix" makes it a materially different song, I won't count Well what determines if it is materially a different song? Where do we draw the line? What do we base it on? Over on Spotify, "Perfect" and "Perfect Duet" chart seperate. But I don't think that was ever the case with Despacito. |
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Post by Soulsista on Dec 17, 2017 17:21:29 GMT -5
The chart from 40 years ago was frozen, so I'll post the year-end Top 10 instead.
December 29, 1962
01 01 Telstar - The Tornadoes (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 Limbo Rock - Chubby Checker
03 04 Bobby's Girl - Marcie Blane
04 07 Go Away Little Girl - Steve Lawrence
05 05 Big Girls Don't Cry - The Four Seasons
06 03 Return To Sender - Elvis Presley
07 09 You Are My Sunshine - Ray Charles
08 08 Release Me - Esther Phillips
09 16 Zip-a-Dee Dooh-Dah - Bob B. Sox & The Blue Jeans
10 14 Hotel Happiness - Brook Benton
December 30, 1967
01 03 Hello, Goodbye - The Beatles (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 I Heard It Through The Grapevine - Gladys Knight & The Pips
03 01 Daydream Believer - The Monkees
04 04 I Second That Emotion - Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
05 05 Woman, Woman - The Union Gap feat. Gary Puckett
06 11 Judy In Disguise (With Glasses) - John Fred & His Playboy Band
07 17 Chain Of Fools - Aretha Franklin
08 13 Bend Me, Shape Me - The American Breed
09 07 Boogaloo Down Broadway - The Fantastic Johnny C.
10 15 Skinny Legs And All - Joe Tex
December 30, 1972
01 01 Me And Mrs. Jones - Billy Paul (3rd and final week at #1)
02 04 Clair - Gilbert O'Sullivan
03 03 You Ought To Be With Me - Al Green
04 09 You're So Vain - Carly Simon
05 05 It Never Rains In Southern California - Albert Hammond
06 07 Funny Face - Donna Fargo
07 02 I Am Woman - Helen Reddy
08 10 Rockin' Pneumonia - Boogie Woogie Flu - Johnny Rivers
09 12 Superfly - Curtis Mayfield
10 14 Your Mama Don't Dance - Loggins & Messina
1977 Year-End Top 10
1. Tonight's The Night - Rod Stewart (#1, November 1976)
2. I Just Want To Be Your Everything - Andy Gibb (#1, July)
3. Best Of My Love - The Emotions (#1, August)
4. Love Theme From A Star Is Born (Evergreen) - Barbra Streisand (#1, March)
5. Angel In Your Arms - Hot (#6, July)
6. I Like Dreamin' - Kenny Nolan (#3, March)
7. Don't Leave Me This Way - Thelma Houston (#1, April)
8. (Your Love Has Lifted Me) Higher And Higher - Rita Coolidge (#2, September)
9. Undercover Angel - Alan O'Day (#1, July)
10. Torn Between Two Lovers - Mary MacGregor (#1, February)
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Post by Choco on Dec 17, 2017 17:44:24 GMT -5
If I Fall Apart ends up hitting the top 10 at a later point, when was the last occurrence that an album produced a Hot 100 top 10 after a single from the followup album had done so? Technically, it will happen this week with Mariah Carey's Merry Christmas landing a top 10 hit well after Daydream  The only similar instance I can think of is "The Hills" becoming a top 10 hit after "Can't Feel My Face", but those were on the same album. |
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Post by jebsib on Dec 17, 2017 17:54:10 GMT -5
Per the revised Hot 100 policy of treating remixes as separate entries, the chart managers on Dec 1, 2001 stated that the guidelines are based on lyrics and melody.
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Post by Kris on Dec 17, 2017 18:08:06 GMT -5
Without any other metrics, you need ~30k. The Total Eclipse of the Heart cover, which had basically nil streaming and wasn't sent to radio, debuted at #99 with 31,000 sales. So by about mid 2018 being #1 in digital sales and having no other metrics you might miss the hot 100 entirely. |
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Post by Soulsista on Dec 17, 2017 18:08:58 GMT -5
The charts from 35 and 30 years ago were frozen, so the year-end Top 10s will be posted.
1982 Year-End Top 10
1. Physical - Olivia Newton-John (#1, November 1981)
2. Eye Of The Tiger - Survivor (#1, July)
3. I Love Rock & Roll - Joan Jett & The Blackhearts (#1, March)
4. Ebony And Ivory - Paul McCartney & Stevie Wonder (#1, May)
5. Centerfold - The J. Geils Band (#1, February)
6. Don't You Want Me - The Human League (#1, July)
7. Jack And Diane - John (Cougar) Mellencamp (#1, October)
8. Hurts So Good - John (Cougar) Mellencamp (#2, August)
9. Abracadabra - The Steve Miller Band (#1, September)
10. Hard To Say I'm Sorry - Chicago (#1, September)
1987 Year-End Top 10
1. Walk Like An Egyptian - The Bangles (#1, December 1986)
2. Alone - Heart (#1, July)
3. Shake You Down - Gregory Abbott (#1, January)
4. I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me) - Whitney Houston (#1, June)
5. Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now - Starship (#1, April)
6. C'est La Vie - Robbie Nevil (#2, January)
7. Here I Go Again - Whitesnake (#1, October)
8. The Way It Is - Bruce Hornsby & The Range (#1, December 1986)
9. Shakedown - Bob Seger (#1, August)
10. Livin' On a Prayer - Bon Jovi (#1, February)
1992 Year-End Top 10
1. End Of The Road - Boyz II Men (#1, August)
2. Baby Got Back - Sir Mix-A-Lot (#1, July)
3. Jump - Kris Kross (#1, April)
4. Save The Best For Last - Vanessa Williams (#1, March)
5. Baby-Baby-Baby - TLC (#2, August)
6. Tears In Heaven - Eric Clapton (#2, March)
7. My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It) - En Vogue (#2, May)
8. Under The Bridge - The Red Hot Chili Peppers (#2, June)
9. All 4 Love - Color Me Badd (#1, January)
10. Just Another Day - Jon Secada (#5, August)
Here's the Top 10 from January 2, 1993
01 01 I Will Always Love You - Whitney Houston (6th of 14 weeks at #1)
02 02 Rump Shaker - Wreckx-N-Effect
03 03 If I Ever Fall In Love - Shai
04 04 In The Still Of The Nite - Boyz II Men
05 06 Rhythm Is a Dancer - Snap!
06 05 I'd Die Without You - P.M. Dawn
07 08 Saving Forever For You - Shanice
08 07 Good Enough - Bobby Brown
09 11 What About Your Friends - TLC
10 10 Real Love - Mary J. Blige
December 27, 1997
01 01 Candle In The Wind 1997 / Something About The Way You Look Tonight - Elton John (12th of 14 weeks at #1)
02 02 How Do I Live - LeAnn Rimes
03 03 You Make Me Wanna... - Usher
04 09 Together Again - Janet Jackson
05 08 Been Around The World - Puff Daddy & The Family feat. The Notorious B.I.G. & Mase
06 04 My Body - LSG
07 05 Feel So Good - Mase
08 10 Show Me Love - Robyn
09 12 Truly Madly Deeply - Savage Garden
10 06 My Love Is The Shhh! - Somethin' For The People feat. Trina & Tamara
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Post by Soulsista on Dec 17, 2017 18:36:57 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
December 28, 2002
01 01 Lose Yourself - Eminem (8th of 12 weeks at #1)
02 02 Work It - Missy Elliott
03 03 Jenny From The Block - Jennifer Lopez feat. Jadakiss & Styles
04 05 '03 Bonnie & Clyde - Jay-Z feat. Beyonce
05 04 Air Force Ones - Nelly feat. Kyjuan, Ali & Murphy Lee
06 10 Beautiful - Christina Aguilera
07 12 Bump, Bump, Bump - B2K & P. Diddy
08 08 Don't Mess With My Man - Nivea feat. Brian & Brandon Casey
09 06 Underneath It All - No Doubt feat. Lady Saw
10 07 The Game Of Love - Santana feat. Michelle Branch
25 NE All I Have - Jennifer Lopez feat. LL Cool J
December 29, 2007
01 01 No One - Alicia Keys (5th and final week at #1)
02 03 Low - Flo Rida feat. T-Pain
03 02 Apologize - Timbaland feat. OneRepublic
04 04 Kiss Kiss - Chris Brown feat. T-Pain
05 05 Clumsy - Fergie
06 06 Bubbly - Colbie Caillat
07 08 Paralyzer - Finger Eleven
08 10 Tattoo - Jordin Sparks
09 07 Hate That I Love You - Rihanna feat. Ne-Yo
10 09 Good Life - Kanye West feat. T-Pain
16 72 Love Song - Sara Bareilles
December 29, 2012
01 01 Locked Out Of Heaven - Bruno Mars (2nd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 Diamonds - Rihanna
03 04 Ho Hey - The Lumineers
04 03 Die Young - Ke$ha
05 05 One More Night - Maroon 5
06 06 I Cry - Flo Rida
07 09 Beauty And a Beat - Justin Bieber feat. Nicki Minaj
08 07 Home - Phillip Phillips
09 08 Some Nights - fun.
10 15 I Knew You Were Trouble. - Taylor Swift
December 31, 2016
01 01 Black Beatles - Rae Sremmurd feat. Gucci Mane (6th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Starboy - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
03 03 Closer - The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey
04 04 24K Magic - Bruno Mars
05 05 Side To Side - Ariana Grande feat. Nicki Minaj
06 NE I Don't Wanna Live Forever - Zayn & Taylor Swift
07 NE Deja Vu - J. Cole
08 06 Juju On That Beat (TZ Anthem) - Zay Hilfigerrr & Zaylon McCall
09 08 Let Me Love You - DJ Snake feat. Justin Bieber
10 07 Don't Wanna Know - Maroon 5 feat. Kendrick Lamar
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