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Post by Ling-Ling on Feb 23, 2018 10:03:24 GMT -5
Madonna just needs her phone taken away from her. For someone who has taken the most gorgeous collection of photos of any major pop star probably in history and worked with every iconic photographer on the planet, she sure as f**k doesn't know her angles. She looks awful in 99% of the selfies she posts. I really don't like her presence on social media in general, but she could at least look fabulous dammit.
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Post by chartfreak on Feb 23, 2018 10:09:20 GMT -5
I think she looks great in the recent pic.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Feb 23, 2018 12:46:56 GMT -5
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 24, 2018 2:00:01 GMT -5
I think she looked bad before on purpose.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Feb 24, 2018 8:31:12 GMT -5
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 24, 2018 9:41:40 GMT -5
A 20th anniversary deluxe edition would have been nice WBR and Madonna.  |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 24, 2018 11:20:53 GMT -5
That’s an interesting concept.....go on tour and perform an entire old album from start to finish and nothing else.
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Post by Dreams on Feb 24, 2018 12:13:57 GMT -5
Madonna just needs her phone taken away from her. For someone who has taken the most gorgeous collection of photos of any major pop star probably in history and worked with every iconic photographer on the planet, she sure as f**k doesn't know her angles. She looks awful in 99% of the selfies she posts. I really don't like her presence on social media in general, but she could at least look fabulous dammit. I agree that while I don't think she does herself favors with her social media presence, like you say, she could at least look great. She literally was the most photogenic popstar of her era, there's just no excuse for the shots/selfies she posts; she can't get a decent angle to save her life. That thing she does with lowering her head... does she honestly think it looks good, WTF?! (I won't go into the recent shots where she could pass off for an Amanda Lepore clone, cause it's obviously a one off look for a shoot or whatever). |
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Post by thewp on Feb 24, 2018 12:40:19 GMT -5
That’s an interesting concept.....go on tour and perform an entire old album from start to finish and nothing else. Well, U2 kinda just did that with songs added before and after The Joshua Tree album |
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Post by August on Feb 24, 2018 13:05:25 GMT -5
That’s an interesting concept.....go on tour and perform an entire old album from start to finish and nothing else. Well, U2 kinda just did that with songs added before and after The Joshua Tree album I have seen several stars do that for anniversaries of certain albums. I saw Cyndi Lauper live where she was celebrating the 30th anniversary of "She's So Unusual." She performed it from start to finish, in the exact track order. Then to please the fans, her encore was True Colors and Change of Heart. I also saw the Go-Go's do the same exact thing for "The Beauty and the Beat" album. The played the entire album from start to finish. Encores were "Head Over Heels" and a go-gofied version of "Mad About You." |
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Feb 24, 2018 17:43:13 GMT -5
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Post by August on Feb 24, 2018 22:22:48 GMT -5
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Post by Resident_Evil on Feb 24, 2018 22:51:40 GMT -5
C'mon Madonna....lets get another number 1 single.  |
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Post by chartfreak on Feb 25, 2018 20:34:29 GMT -5
Did anyone see how M commented to Guy's post? Quite interesting.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 26, 2018 0:21:28 GMT -5
Filters or not, it seems all of a sudden she’s looking amazing again.
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Post by adamalterlago on Feb 26, 2018 6:23:00 GMT -5
Did anyone see how M commented to Guy's post? Quite interesting. YES!!! Her comment is SO valid. I think the songwriting bootcamps are a bad idea especially for someone like Madonna. The end result more often than not tends to be a hodgepodge of songs and styles with no cohesion. She needs to get with ONE/TWO producers and craft an album again. For me, that is what has been missing since Confessions. Pretty much everything since there (although Hard Candy had Timbaland/Pharrell) has been messy for me. I know this would probably never happen but imagine if she did an album with Daft Punk as the producers? I can dream... |
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Post by Carlitoz on Feb 26, 2018 10:13:27 GMT -5
So intrigued about what she's doing!! A magazine photoshoot??
Looking forward to the new album and that there are no leaks this time.
AND that she's not again following the sound of the radio, but setting trends as she used to. I like Cardi B, but the fact that there's a rumor going around that they may work together worries me. I know she always goes with the hottest young acts to grab kids' attention, but I'm done with that. Bring out artists and sounds from the underground scene please!!
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Feb 26, 2018 15:04:13 GMT -5
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Post by think pink. on Feb 26, 2018 17:05:55 GMT -5
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Post by wavey. on Feb 26, 2018 18:52:36 GMT -5
Well then, come on Madge!
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Post by August on Feb 27, 2018 8:11:29 GMT -5
Someone should get her out of the songwriting camps and call up Patrick Leonard and Stephen Bray....maybe Daft Punk or Nile Rogers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 8:45:03 GMT -5
Someone should get her out of the songwriting camps and call up Patrick Leonard and Stephen Bray....maybe Daft Punk or Nile Rogers. I guess what I interpret from her post is that she *is* out of the songwriting camps and back to being a visionary. "Coming soon" meaning something is already in the works. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 27, 2018 10:08:59 GMT -5
Someone should get her out of the songwriting camps and call up Patrick Leonard and Stephen Bray....maybe Daft Punk or Nile Rogers. I guess what I interpret from her post is that she *is* out of the songwriting camps and back to being a visionary. "Coming soon" meaning something is already in the works. Yes, that’s what I think too. a Daft Punk collab would be a dream come true for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 10:26:05 GMT -5
I guess what I interpret from her post is that she *is* out of the songwriting camps and back to being a visionary. "Coming soon" meaning something is already in the works. Yes, that’s what I think too. a Daft Punk collab would be a dream come true for me. That would be great. Or maybe she's met some lesser know Mirwais type(s). I'm down for whoever as long as she's gotten back to making really inspired albums, even if they fail to get radio support. She doesn't get much anyway - that bird has flown. Focus on the music - make a statement. |
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Post by adamalterlago on Feb 27, 2018 11:01:53 GMT -5
I guess what I interpret from her post is that she *is* out of the songwriting camps and back to being a visionary. "Coming soon" meaning something is already in the works. Yes, that’s what I think too. a Daft Punk collab would be a dream come true for me. I have been dreaming of this collaboration for years. It just makes so much sense. Both of them are the definition of perfectionists. The project would slay, probably get critical acclaim and pull in an even wider audience for M. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 27, 2018 11:31:12 GMT -5
It does make so much sense and imagine if she had collaborated with them on American Life. That’s when she should have....at the turn of the century when Discovery came out and Madonna was riding high off the Music album and the club remixes.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Feb 27, 2018 20:54:59 GMT -5
Amen “Madonna, Step Away From The ‘Songwriting Camps’ I’d much rather hear something she was proud of than a radio-friendly three minutes and thirty-three seconds song that came out of a meeting of 25 songwriters 27/02/2018 www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/madonna-step-away-from-the-songwriting-camps_uk_5a95789ae4b0699553ccb0daIn February 2015, Madonna fell on her arse. You saw it. I saw it. It was splashed over every magazine, newspaper and gossip site for days afterwards. Everyone had an opinion on it, whether you were laughing it up, dying of embarrassment or just feeling downhearted to see a woman once heralded as the saviour of pop music dragged to the floor live on television. Suffice to say, it was a moment the whole world was talking about. Four years earlier, in a slightly brighter moment for Madonna, she had been hand-picked to perform at the Super Bowl half-time show. The performance was a triumph and a landmark moment in her career, which also wound up making a few headlines when M.I.A. flipped the bird live on pre-watershed television, with millions of American families watching at home. Again, a moment the world was talking about. What the world regrettably wasn’t talking about were the singles Madonna was promoting on both of these occasions, ‘Give Me All Your Luvin’ in 2011 and ‘Living For Love’ in 2015. Despite being attached to two of the most undisputable water-cooler moments of the 21st Century, ‘Living For Love’ wound up debuting at number 26 here in the UK. As a lifelong Madonna fan, it pained me to admit that she was probably never going to have another hit single in her lifetime. But also, I soon realised this might be a good thing. After all, in times of difficulty, Madonna has always delivered her most intriguing and celebrated work, whether it was following the confusing and at-times-messy ‘Bedtime Stories’ era with ‘Ray Of Light’ or bouncing back from the public bashing she got for her ‘American Life’ album with ‘Confessions On A Dance Floor’, which cemented her place as the Queen of Pop. These hopes were fuelled even more when, in an unexpected move, Madonna announced in summer 2017 that she and her children would be moving to Portugal. Suddenly, I had visions of a new, earthier Madonna settling down in a new country and adapting to a whole new culture and lifestyle, before returning to the music scene to try something new and experimental with the best untapped pop resources Portugal had to offer. I was anticipating her new album would offer a sharp take on Trump’s America, from the point of view of a woman approaching 60, who had always spoken her mind, infused with some Portuguese folk samples and maybe a few waiting/hesitating rhyming couplets thrown in for good measure. It was all looking rather promising, especially given that Madonna’s last three studio albums, ‘Hard Candy’, ‘MDNA’ and ‘Rebel Heart’, have all had, to some degree, the flavour of someone chasing a hit rather than setting any kind of agenda. Unfortunately, this dream looked less likely to be realised at the end of last year, when Madonna said she was ready to get back in the studio and ditch the “soccer mom in Portugal” in favour of the pop icon “coming back” for the crown. I hadn’t realised they weren’t the same person. This brings us nicely up to the present day. Things had all gone a bit quiet on the “new Madonna” album front, until Madonna’s manager, Guy Oseary, posted a special message on his Instagram page last week, commemorating 20 years since the release of ‘Ray Of Light’. Two days later, Madonna herself showed up in the comments, and she did not sound happy. “Remember when I made records with other artists from beginning to end and I was allowed to be a visionary and not have to go to songwriting camps where no one can sit still for more than 15 minutes…” Now, I’m not saying that anyone is above a “songwriting camp”. Some of my favourite hit singles of the last few years have come together when writers being paid by the hour put their heads together in a bid to collectively answer the question: “How do we get middle America to stream this over and over again?” But the idea of Madonna, now well into her fourth decade in the music industry, trying to put some of her new-found Portuguese wisdom over the top of a beat that has already been turned down by Selena Gomez and Camila Cabello is not a scenario that brings me a great deal of comfort. This is not what I want for one of the most important, influential and game-changing artists of the past 100 years, particularly someone who has so many times pushed the envelope, set the trend and is about to celebrate her sixtieth birthday. Instead, whoever it is that is making Madonna (against her will, seemingly) sit through these “songwriting camps” with a group of people for whom ‘4 Minutes’ is considered “vintage Madge” should listen up. The world is not interested in Madonna’s take on ‘Havana’ or Madonna’s take on ‘Shape Of You’ or Madonna’s take on ‘Despacito’. Young people don’t want it, casual listeners don’t want it, and Madonna’s fans certainly don’t want it. Maybe, safe in the knowledge that no amount of Julia Michaels, Ed Sheeran or even Sia co-writes are going to give Madonna a hit in the streaming era (and that no matter what, a full Madonna album and world tour are always going to make money), you should take a look at her pretty spotless track record and leave her to her own devices this time around. Let her roam around Portugal, meet with some underground musicians, raid her daughters’ music collections, see what’s out there that people haven’t heard yet. Could it all wind up being an unlistenable racket? Very possibly. But as someone who’s been listening to Madonna as long as I’ve been aware of recorded music, I can say with confidence I’d much rather hear something she was proud of and could stand by, than a radio-friendly three minutes and thirty-three seconds song that came out of a meeting of 25 songwriters who would rather be working with Meghan Trainor or Shawn Mendes. And who knows? When those Spotify users get a whiff of authenticity and actual enjoyment from the result, Madonna could shock us all once again... and end the 2010s with an actual hit. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 27, 2018 22:50:27 GMT -5
i love reading stuff like that.
MDNA and Rebel Heart do sound like "writing camp" albums tho. So is this why her tours, and especially the backdrops, are MILES ahead of the parent album? Because she has more control in the touring department than on the album?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 8:31:07 GMT -5
Yeah, good perspectives going on here. I think her shows are her babies for sure, especially ever since Blonde Ambition. I agree that control is probably a big part of it, like Spree said. It was three studio album cycles of her trying to stay in the pop game musically, so the tour had to be her main creative outlet.
Annnnd....frankly, despite a solid set list and more audience interaction that she had been previously low on, I didn't love this last tour. To be fair, the show itself was solid. But that leaves me with... her. I think it was her that didn't do it for me. As a performer she seemed to be going through the motions, her voice sounded worn and somewhat soulless. Something was off for me. It's like she was purging a decade of being on a treadmill. And like she desperately needed a break after her final run for pop chart glory - hopefully a permanent vacation from it, even.
My hope is that she's let all that go, lived life loosely for awhile, and slowly crafting an artistic comeback. Sounds like it's very possible all three things are true.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Mar 3, 2018 13:45:33 GMT -5
“Beautiful Stranger” is one of Madonna’s most unique and dazzling releases. Can’t believe she was 41 at the time.
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