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Post by martinittoe on Feb 11, 2021 16:15:51 GMT -5
A song called ‚Tears’ leaked a few days ago. I think it’s from 25 though
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Post by Gary on Feb 22, 2021 13:50:06 GMT -5
Adele’s ’21’ Turns 10: Here Are 10 Staggering Numbers Capturing Its U.S. Success By Jason Lipshutz 2/22/2021 Click to copy www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/9529369/adele-21-10th-anniversary-us-chart-stats/Ten years ago, Adele released her sophomore album in the United States, and proceeded to take over the pop world. With 21, Adele’s follow-up to her 2008 debut 19, the British artist transformed from an acclaimed singer-songwriter with a best new artist Grammy win into a record-smashing superstar with multiple No. 1 hits. Released on Feb. 22, 2011 in the United States (after being released on Jan. 24 in her native U.K.), 21 represented an enormous critical and commercial hit for Adele, who channeled the heartbreak of her 21st year into 11 songs of soulful pop, including the No. 1 hits “Rolling In The Deep” and “Someone Like You.” One decade removed from its release, the numbers that capture 21’s success remain staggering. Here are 10 of the figures that showcase the cultural juggernaut of Adele’s second album following its U.S. release: Adele Can't Believe '21' Just Turned 10: 'Well I Never!' 16.21 million: The equivalent album units in the U.S. that 21 has earned through Feb. 18, according to MRC Data. Of that sum, 12.08 million are in album sales. 2.63 billion: The number of U.S. on-demand streams that the album’s 11 songs have earned to date. Yup, that’s “billion” with a B! 26.16 million: The number of U.S. downloads sold of 21’s songs. 4.05 million: The number of plays that 21’s songs have earned to date on U.S. radio. 2: The number of years, 2011 and 2012, in which 21 was the top-selling album in the United States. The album was also the year-end No. 1 Billboard 200 album in both years -- making it the first album since Michael Jackson's Thriller in 1983-84 to finish as the No. 1 album on the year-end chart in consecutive years. 3: The number of Hot 100 No. 1 singles on the album: “Rolling In The Deep,” “Someone Like You” and “Set Fire To The Rain.” ("Rumour Has It," the album's fourth U.S. single, peaked at No. 16.) 14: Total number of weeks that those songs sat atop the Hot 100 chart ("Rolling In the Deep" was No. 1 for seven weeks; "Someone Like You" was No. 1 for five weeks; and “Set Fire to the Rain" was No. 1 for two weeks). 6: The number of Grammy Awards that Adele won for the album in 2012: album of the year and best pop vocal album for 21; record of the year, song of the year and best short form music video for “Rolling in the Deep”; and best pop solo performance for “Someone Like You.” In addition, Paul Epworth, who produced “Rolling in the Deep,” won the producer of the year, non-classical trophy. Adele won in every category in which she was nominated in 2012. 24: The number of weeks that 21 has spent at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 albums chart. It’s tied for the sixth-most weeks at No. 1 among all albums, and also has the most weeks at No. 1 among albums by women. Only the West Side Story soundtrack (54 weeks at No. 1), Michael Jackson’s Thriller (37 weeks), Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours (31 weeks), the South Pacific soundtrack (31 weeks) and Harry Belafonte’s Calypso (31 weeks) have spent more weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart, which began publishing on a regular weekly basis in 1956. Adele’s 21 is tied with Prince and the Revolution’s Purple Rain and the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack with 24 weeks in the top spot. 1: The number of albums released this century that have spent 20 or more weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart -- it’s only Adele’s 21. Whitney Houston’s The Bodyguard soundtrack was the last album to do so prior to 21, spending 20 weeks at No. 1 upon its 1992 release.
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 5, 2021 14:20:56 GMT -5
Rumours are starting up again about Adele releasing soon/launching the album with a Grammys performance. I kinda hope they're true. A surprise album release from Adele would be very welcome right now!
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Post by martinittoe on Mar 7, 2021 13:14:46 GMT -5
So Adele’s not perfoming at the grammys... Despite that, I hope she is still releasing her album soon :(
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Post by adamalterlago on Mar 7, 2021 14:52:21 GMT -5
So Adele’s not perfoming at the grammys... Despite that, I hope she is still releasing her album soon :( She could still be planning a surprise performance...doubt it but we will see :)
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Post by Dreams on Mar 7, 2021 15:05:43 GMT -5
dang.......Adele really does NOT like her fans 😯😔
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Post by Troublemaker on Mar 7, 2021 15:07:48 GMT -5
At this point I just hope the wait is worth it
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Post by Glove Slap on Mar 7, 2021 15:15:47 GMT -5
So Adele’s not perfoming at the grammys... Despite that, I hope she is still releasing her album soon :( She could still be planning a surprise performance...doubt it but we will see :) There were 26 spots in the tweet before the reveal, but 25 names on the one with them present. It could be her, but it could also just be that someone dropped out.
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Post by spiritboy on Mar 7, 2021 16:13:54 GMT -5
If she won't perform at the Grammys, that means her album will be out in Q4, probably in November.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 17:45:17 GMT -5
She could still be planning a surprise performance...doubt it but we will see :) There were 26 spots in the tweet before the reveal, but 25 names on the one with them present. It could be her, but it could also just be that someone dropped out. Bruno and Anderson.Paak are highkey trolling about the performer lineup on Twitter rn, so I'm thinking Silk Sonic is the 'missing' 26th name. Adele could certainly pull off a surprise drop, but I just don't get the feeling that is what she wants to do.
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Post by Choco on Mar 8, 2021 10:31:08 GMT -5
I think we would have at least gotten a few more whispers here and there if she was dropping her lead in a week. And the way the tracking week works it would mean the song would be out as early as Friday... it could happen but I don't think so.
We're probably gonna have to wait until the end of the year... and might even be clowned again.
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Post by bat1990 on Mar 8, 2021 10:45:09 GMT -5
It's a race to the bottom between Adele and Rihanna releasing their next album.
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Mar 8, 2021 12:16:07 GMT -5
At this point, if the album's only 11 songs I will personally fly across the pond and riot.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 8, 2021 12:39:18 GMT -5
Idk. Despite the wait I wouldn’t want a long-winded album with songs that weigh it down. I’d rather an album of perfection with 10 tracks rather than an album with 16 tracks with 6 of the songs being underwhelming or dull. Of course I know I can simply skip those and keep the perfect songs but I still listen to albums as albums. 🤷♂️
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Post by martinittoe on Mar 8, 2021 13:19:52 GMT -5
Some people say Adele will be a surprise performance at the grammys but Idk. If it’s not coming Q2, I’ll be really disappointed cause it must be done by now and it’s just kinda waiting for her to release it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 14:19:16 GMT -5
At this point there's been a rumor the single is due out any day now pretty much monthly for the past year.
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Post by Snowbeast on Mar 8, 2021 22:49:54 GMT -5
It’s coming out Q4...at the earliest. They’re sitting on a gold mine and this project is kind of like the second coming of Christ for the nuclear wasteland state of music industry revenues after the pandemic.
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Post by musicfan134 on Mar 8, 2021 23:02:51 GMT -5
How well do we actually expect this album to do, once it comes out? Obviously 25 did very well, but that was almost 6 years ago. A lot has changed in music (and in the world) since 2015. There will be some buzz, but at some point the long wait between albums is going to backfire on her. Maybe not this album, but people are eventually going to lose interest in her if she isn't consistently releasing new music. I would say a new album every 5-6 years is inconsistent at best.
Having said that, it's Adele. She's surprised me before.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 23:13:49 GMT -5
I would say a new album every 5-6 years is inconsistent at best. Sade and Maxwell have entered the chat
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Mar 9, 2021 2:34:57 GMT -5
No way they release it before brick and mortal stores are back open at capacity. Adele always sells the bulk of her albums in physical form, and I can’t imagine they’d want to rush release it when they can wait until Fall and hopefully capitalize on the holiday shopping season. I think a release strategy like 25 and potentially a million sold first week would do this album wonders.
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Post by Choco on Mar 9, 2021 7:12:17 GMT -5
She's Adele, she will sell but do not ignore the shift in market since 25 dropped. Streaming will make up a much higher % of her debut this time.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 9, 2021 9:08:33 GMT -5
How well do we actually expect this album to do, once it comes out? Obviously 25 did very well, but that was almost 6 years ago. A lot has changed in music (and in the world) since 2015. There will be some buzz, but at some point the long wait between albums is going to backfire on her. Maybe not this album, but people are eventually going to lose interest in her if she isn't consistently releasing new music. I would say a new album every 5-6 years is inconsistent at best. Having said that, it's Adele. She's surprised me before. I was one of the people who said 25 wouldn’t recreate the success of 21 and was proven completely wrong (and I was okay with that. 25 is a great album!) but I’m still more skeptical this time around. I think the iron was still hot leading into 25. By now, it’s cooled considerably. The people who bought 21 (and also 25) on CD, for example, were also likely people who stopped buying CDs in 2004 but opted to get these because they were must-haves and ‘trendy’. Now we’re further away from people having CD players and it’s been ten years since 21 came out. Interest or willingness to invest in new music drops as you get older anyway so for these people, they’re all ten years older. If it’s made readily available and they’re in-your-face about it, then maybe. But they’re not as likely to go out of their way for it. But streaming has picked up more and I think Adele would benefit more from that, but the question is how much? I don’t know what streaming demographics are but if it leans heavily younger, I can’t imagine a teenager excitedly putting on the new Adele album. All that said, I think her first week will still be huge by 2021 standards for the album. The single’s first week could be as well but ultimately depends on competition.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Mar 9, 2021 9:29:54 GMT -5
A huge opening is going to happen. Adele still has that pull.
I'm more curious about the long term prospects of the album. Maintaining an album cycle is 10 times as hard as it was when 25 came out. Most artists are lucky if they can go three singles deep these days. So it'll be interesting to see how an artist that is so reliant on an old-fashioned album era will do.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Mar 9, 2021 9:56:01 GMT -5
4Q release was a huge benefit with physical - not so much in streaming era with Xmas music dominating that outlet. Adele probably skews more to the older, casual music buyer who say 'Alexa, play Christmas music.' While Adele will sell a disproportionately higher number of CDs, it'll be fraction of 25.
25 did not have the commercial or cultural impact of 21 and its tracks. 'Hello' was amazing, but the unbelievably stupid follow-up singles strategy killed the momentum.
Will a slimmed down Adele do well out of the box? Definitely. Longevity? It'll depend on the marketing and radio-friendly singles. Maybe if this flops, she'll decide to release something quick to hide it.
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Post by mcsteamy on Mar 9, 2021 10:35:31 GMT -5
Adele Is a.lock for 1milsps. I don't know why all doubting the savour of music industry
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 9, 2021 10:39:50 GMT -5
A huge opening is going to happen. Adele still has that pull. I'm more curious about the long term prospects of the album. Maintaining an album cycle is 10 times as hard as it was when 25 came out. Most artists are lucky if they can go three singles deep these days. So it'll be interesting to see how an artist that is so reliant on an old-fashioned album era will do. This is a good question too. Will Adele go the traditional route of a single followed by an album 6-10 weeks later and hope for the best for single 3? Or will she release a single, follow it with an album announcement and then 1-2 hype singles in the weeks leading up to the album, knowing that once the album is out for a month, the odds of a hit are minimal? I think Adele is one of the few who probably could still get a hit or two post-album release. Despite the success of her singles, she’s still an albums artist so once her album is out, if she has streaming on her side, she should be set for having hits if streaming remains consistent for a while. All that would be needed is radio support, which she should still have from Hot AC and pop to an extend. (Though I don’t think we should take for granted that pop radio support is automatic for her either).
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Post by Glove Slap on Mar 9, 2021 10:56:24 GMT -5
A huge opening is going to happen. Adele still has that pull. I'm more curious about the long term prospects of the album. Maintaining an album cycle is 10 times as hard as it was when 25 came out. Most artists are lucky if they can go three singles deep these days. So it'll be interesting to see how an artist that is so reliant on an old-fashioned album era will do. Honestly the pattern of the 25 singles is exactly what can happen with this. 1. A massive lead 2. A second single soon after the album release that may get overshadowed due to how big the lead still is. 3. A third single where the biggest success is on radio 4. A fourth which does best on radio, but has a softer performance because the album isn’t new anymore The second single could be bigger than WWWY if they put more force behind pushing it, and the singles after might require a remix or feature to get more streaming at the time they are getting pushed.
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Post by musicfan134 on Mar 9, 2021 18:24:10 GMT -5
How well do we actually expect this album to do, once it comes out? Obviously 25 did very well, but that was almost 6 years ago. A lot has changed in music (and in the world) since 2015. There will be some buzz, but at some point the long wait between albums is going to backfire on her. Maybe not this album, but people are eventually going to lose interest in her if she isn't consistently releasing new music. I would say a new album every 5-6 years is inconsistent at best. Having said that, it's Adele. She's surprised me before. I was one of the people who said 25 wouldn’t recreate the success of 21 and was proven completely wrong (and I was okay with that. 25 is a great album!) but I’m still more skeptical this time around. I think the iron was still hot leading into 25. By now, it’s cooled considerably. The people who bought 21 (and also 25) on CD, for example, were also likely people who stopped buying CDs in 2004 but opted to get these because they were must-haves and ‘trendy’. Now we’re further away from people having CD players and it’s been ten years since 21 came out. Interest or willingness to invest in new music drops as you get older anyway so for these people, they’re all ten years older. If it’s made readily available and they’re in-your-face about it, then maybe. But they’re not as likely to go out of their way for it. But streaming has picked up more and I think Adele would benefit more from that, but the question is how much? I don’t know what streaming demographics are but if it leans heavily younger, I can’t imagine a teenager excitedly putting on the new Adele album. All that said, I think her first week will still be huge by 2021 standards for the album. The single’s first week could be as well but ultimately depends on competition. The bolded part is what I agree with most. People were excited about new music when 25 released. Now...are people really as excited about a new album from her as they were from 25? A small few are, sure, but I don't think we can completely ignore how much the landscape has changed. Sales are going to be a much tougher sell this time around, streaming is where it's at. Which is unprecedented territory for Adele...25 wasn't available to stream right away. I am going to go on record (and feel free to quote me if I'm wrong) but I don't see her opening coming anywhere near 25's opening. It'll be big--probably 1 million SPS--but it will pale in comparison to 25. I remain unconvinced she will do as well in streaming as some people seem to think she will. If she releases Q4, I also truly don't see us out of the woods with COVID by the end of this year. I think we'll be close, but I still think people are going to be skeptical about going to retailers come Q4 still. That could impact sales as well. The longevity of the album is an interesting discussion. In this, I think she'll do...okay. Assuming she has pop radio support (which is an assumption...she's getting older, and pop radio can be fickle), I think she could have moderately singles post-album. However, WWWY, SML and WUTB didn't really do "that" well...I don't see anything from this album doing better, other than the lead. She might be better off releasing 1-2 singles from it and calling it good honestly.
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Post by bat1990 on Mar 9, 2021 20:22:37 GMT -5
She could always push more singles in Europe and Oceania. Much of the above discussion is mainly about the USA, but Dua Lipa has had double the singles in Europe as she's had stateside.
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Post by ampersand on Mar 9, 2021 20:51:25 GMT -5
I think Adele is a once-in-a-generation kind of artist. I see her having continued success and longevity perhaps not despite the lengthy wait between albums but actually because of those breaks. I don't think 25 would have done the numbers it did had she released it so soon after 21 (although, to be sure, the project would have still been insanely successful). Part of her appeal is the demand she creates and hype she builds by taking her time.
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