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Post by Caviar on Nov 16, 2021 14:53:40 GMT -5
Hopefully Target ships the vinyls early.
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 16, 2021 14:56:15 GMT -5
The album is going to be so huge. It's #1 (CD), #2 (White Vinyl) & #12 (Vinyl) on Amazon's CD & Vinyl chart. I don't believe Taylor managed to knock the CD off the #1 spot, which is insane as I assume Taylor has done big numbers on Amazon. Her pre-orders must be massive given it's basically been #1 since being put up a few weeks ago.
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Post by Choco on Nov 16, 2021 15:04:55 GMT -5
"When We Were Young" is great but they did a terrible job pushing it. Whenever she had the chance to perform on a show or anything, she'd resort to "Hello", or even worse "All I Ask" which wasn't even a single. Ultimately it peaked at #14 but just a little help would have pushed it to the top 10. As SML proved, that was more or less the best case scenario considering everyone already had a copy of the album.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 16, 2021 15:55:53 GMT -5
WWYY should have had a video, too, but I digress.
Final live numbers are in for the special- 10.33 million viewers, and a 1.65 in the 18-49 demo.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 16, 2021 15:59:13 GMT -5
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Post by magik on Nov 16, 2021 22:36:08 GMT -5
The early reviews are very strong. NME is the only mixed review, but they acknowledge this is Adele's most "experimental" album to date.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 17, 2021 5:26:00 GMT -5
"When We Were Young" is great but they did a terrible job pushing it. Whenever she had the chance to perform on a show or anything, she'd resort to "Hello", or even worse "All I Ask" which wasn't even a single. Ultimately it peaked at #14 but just a little help would have pushed it to the top 10. As SML proved, that was more or less the best case scenario considering everyone already had a copy of the album. not exactly true. "When We Were Young" was performed live on SNL (the US), her NBC Special (the US), the Ellen Show (the US), the BRIT Awards (the UK), Skavlan (Norway/Sweden), and received a live performance video on her Vevo page (which essentially worked as a globally accessible music video for the song). promo definitely wasn't as strong as "Hello," but they didn't necessarily do a terrible job at it either.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 17, 2021 8:50:35 GMT -5
I think When We Were Young was simply overshadowed by Hello's domination. If I remember correctly, Hello had several more weeks at #1 after WWWY was released.
Still, it's probably my favorite single from that era and I hope it becomes a tour staple.
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Post by upsidedown on Nov 17, 2021 9:45:09 GMT -5
I also don't think it helped that WWWY had a nearly 5 minute run time and radio was/is not really interested in that, even from Adele lol.
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Post by schnetzka on Nov 17, 2021 9:52:23 GMT -5
I also don't think it helped that WWWY had a nearly 5 minute run time and radio was/is not really interested in that, even from Adele lol. Considering most of this album is longer than 6 minutes, can't wait to see how it goes this round lol.
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Reviews are starting to come in. A 90 score from 7 reviews on metacritic so far. This looks like it may be her most critically acclaimed album. :'(
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Post by upsidedown on Nov 17, 2021 10:28:31 GMT -5
Reviews are starting to come in. A 90 score from 7 reviews on metacritic so far. This looks like it may be her most critically acclaimed album. :'( Yep - not that anyones opinion on this forum is irrelevant but again, I think some of the hot takes from the past few pages of this thread are going to age like milk.
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Post by RoseColoredGirl on Nov 17, 2021 12:19:40 GMT -5
I also don't think it helped that WWWY had a nearly 5 minute run time and radio was/is not really interested in that, even from Adele lol. Considering most of this album is longer than 6 minutes, can't wait to see how it goes this round lol. One option if her team was worried about this could be to create shorter "radio edits" of the songs they choose to release as singles, similar to what they did with the radio version of Billie's "Happier Than Ever" which shortens it from five to three minutes. That's not to say they will though, but it would be an option.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 17, 2021 12:23:04 GMT -5
Spot-on comment from Time's writer:
Adele is both a throwback torch singer and a modern marketing genius—and it’s the nexus of the two that will ensure her longevity.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 17, 2021 13:41:15 GMT -5
Incredible.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 17, 2021 13:47:14 GMT -5
On another note, why do y'all think "When We Were Young" was such a disappointment commercially but has become sort of a "cult classic"? was it really a commercial disappointment? it still charted fairly well with no music video and all. It was a commercial disappointment. In the U.S. "Hello" was a #1 on the Hot 100 and on Top 40 radio. "WWWY" then peaked at #14 and #11 on those charts. Third single "Send My Love" then went top 10 and peaked at #1 on Top 40 radio. When you also consider her momentum coming off the 21 singles, "WWWY" was a definite outlier. It was similar in the UK. 21 produced several #1s and then "Hello" was a UK #1. "WWWY" then peaked at #9 in the UK, followed by "Send My Love" peaking at #5.
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Post by bat1990 on Nov 17, 2021 14:05:44 GMT -5
Her UK singles chart history is strange. SFTTR only peaked at #11 and SLY, Hello, and EOM are her only #1s.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 17, 2021 14:33:31 GMT -5
was it really a commercial disappointment? it still charted fairly well with no music video and all. It was a commercial disappointment. In the U.S. "Hello" was a #1 on the Hot 100 and on Top 40 radio. "WWWY" then peaked at #14 and #11 on those charts. Third single "Send My Love" then went top 10 and peaked at #1 on Top 40 radio. When you also consider her momentum coming off the 21 singles, "WWWY" was a definite outlier. It was similar in the UK. 21 produced several #1s and then "Hello" was a UK #1. "WWWY" then peaked at #9 in the UK, followed by "Send My Love" peaking at #5. it was a disappointment only if your sole judgment of commercial success is a chart peak, lol. it continues to be her most streamed track on Spotify after "Easy On Me". it lasted 20 weeks on the Hot 100 to "Hello"s 26, and is currently outpacing it in nearly all metrics. "WWWY" also hit the Top 10 on several radio formats, as well as the all-genre Radio Songs chart, so it was one of those cases where pop radio was being ridiculous. had CHR also taken it to Top 10, it could have likely peaked around the same place on the Hot 100 as "Send My Love" and this "outlier" and "disappointment" talk would be irrelevant. I've also been hearing "Send My Love" every time I turn on the radio in the car lately, and that one's also above "Hello" on Spotify. So somehow "Hello" has become less popular than either of her "underperforming" singles that era over time.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 17, 2021 14:35:13 GMT -5
It was a commercial disappointment. In the U.S. "Hello" was a #1 on the Hot 100 and on Top 40 radio. "WWWY" then peaked at #14 and #11 on those charts. Third single "Send My Love" then went top 10 and peaked at #1 on Top 40 radio. When you also consider her momentum coming off the 21 singles, "WWWY" was a definite outlier. It was similar in the UK. 21 produced several #1s and then "Hello" was a UK #1. "WWWY" then peaked at #9 in the UK, followed by "Send My Love" peaking at #5. it was a disappointment only if your sole judgment of commercial success is a chart peak, lol. it continues to be her most streamed track on Spotify after "Easy On Me". it lasted 20 weeks on the Hot 100 to "Hello"s 26, and is currently outpacing it in nearly all metrics. "WWWY" also hit the Top 10 on several radio formats, as well as the all-genre Radio Songs chart, so it was one of those cases where pop radio was being ridiculous. had CHR also taken it to Top 10, it could have likely peaked around the same place on the Hot 100 as "Send My Love" and this "outlier" and "disappointment" talk would be irrelevant. I've also been hearing "Send My Love" every time I turn on the radio in the car lately, and that one's also above "Hello" on Spotify. So somehow "Hello" has become less popular than either of her "underperforming" singles that era over time. That's all fine and good but irrelevant to how it did when it was released as a single, which is what the question was about. Btw I'd also call "Send My Love" a bit of a chart disappointment, so even if "WWWY" had peaked similarly, I'd still call it a disappointment.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 17, 2021 14:48:07 GMT -5
Yeah I agree her UK singles history is strange. I wonder if it's more that they focus on the album rather than the singles when it comes to her...or maybe just bad timing? Specifically when you look at songs like Rolling In The Deep.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 17, 2021 14:56:57 GMT -5
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Nov 17, 2021 15:05:40 GMT -5
She just gave us a live performance of “To Be Loved” and it’s six minutes long and I’m so floored in the best way.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 17, 2021 15:08:16 GMT -5
She just gave us a live performance of “To Be Loved” and it’s six minutes long and I’m so floored in the best way. She posted it two minutes before this post and it’s six minutes long. Your magic!! :kii:
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 17, 2021 15:26:01 GMT -5
"To Be Loved" sounds so amazing. She sounds so good in that performance. *_*
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Post by schnetzka on Nov 17, 2021 15:27:49 GMT -5
This album is going to wreck me. If anybody needs me Friday, don't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 15:30:35 GMT -5
"To Be Loved" is more instant for me than any of the other new songs she performed at the show.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 17, 2021 15:32:43 GMT -5
Ha! She said in her interview with Zane that she'd never perform it again. Lol
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Post by Ernesto on Nov 17, 2021 16:06:28 GMT -5
Just wow! That "Let it be known that I've tried" line is stuck in in my head now.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 17, 2021 16:09:08 GMT -5
I mean, what even is there to say? A vocal masterclass while she’s sitting in her couch, filming herself on a laptop, sounding like that. So excited to hear the recorded version of this. That ending sounds like it’ll be absolutely epic.
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