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Post by collinkottke on Apr 2, 2019 15:27:38 GMT -5
The interesting thing to factor in here is the ACM Awards on Sunday. I don't think I've seen anything clearly say how many performances on the broadcast that Combs will get, but I assume he will get two: his own and the ACM Flashback Moment (or whatever they are calling it) with Brooks & Dunn. It wouldn't be optimal to perform "Beautiful Crazy" since it has hit its peak already... but going straight into a new lead single might be slightly overkill with "Beautiful Crazy" bound to get a nice amount of recurrent play for a few weeks.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 2, 2019 16:20:10 GMT -5
Um, because the label has told me lol. Most times (not all times), whoever co-hosts CCUSA a weekend, will have that lead into their push week. The biggest spin gains come after Wednesday, when many programmers adjust their playlist for the week/weekend and add in those extra overnight spins...that's why you see monster gains between Friday-Sunday. So since Brett Young is co-hosting the weekend of April 13-14 that will be his push week? And Eric Church is co-hosting this weekend coming up April 6-7 so I know they’re not pushing him that week so is Michael going for 2 weeks if he gets #1 this week or who will push that week if anyone? Sorry I’m nosey lol That should be Riley Green, after Michael Ray. Lon Helton doesn't have artists with debut singles as co-hosts usually. |
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Post by CoJoFan on Apr 2, 2019 19:07:43 GMT -5
An asinine 10-week run at Radio & Records. “Live Like You Were Dying” was a non-consecutive #1 run at Billboard, when “Somebody” by Reba McEntire had that massive push in July of 2004. I love Reba McEntire to death. Even after fifteen years have passed, it still does not look right. She was able to spend a week at the top while Kenny Chesney had to settle for second with I Go Back. If I’m not mistaken the 90’s only had one 6 plus week #1 and that was Lonestar’s “Amazed”. The only song I remember coming close to 6 weeks after it was “My Next Thirty Years” and “Just To See You Smile” both by Tim McGraw. I may be mistaken but it seem like they both spent 5 weeks at the top. |
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 2, 2019 19:18:07 GMT -5
I love Reba McEntire to death. Even after fifteen years have passed, it still does not look right. She was able to spend a week at the top while Kenny Chesney had to settle for second with I Go Back. If I’m not mistaken the 90’s only had one 6 plus week #1 and that was Lonestar’s “Amazed”. The only song I remember coming close to 6 weeks after it was “My Next Thirty Years” and “Just To See You Smile” both by Tim McGraw. I may be mistaken but it seem like they both spent 5 weeks at the top. My Next Thirty Years-5 weeks Just To See You Smile-6 weeks Plus, there were six week #1s with It's Your Love and How Forever Feels. |
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Post by rbundy1987 on Apr 3, 2019 9:08:08 GMT -5
It is looking more and more like this will spend a 7th week at #1 for Billboard Country Airplay as Brett Young is still too far away in audience from catching him but now on Mediabase, 4 weeks at #1 will be it for it as Michael Ray with "One That Got Away" is going for the #1 on Mediabase as his spins are about to catch Combs and knock him back to #2 on Mediabase but not for Billboard. I am expecting Combs to have one last week at #1 for Billboard that will give way to Brett Young taking both the #1 for Billboard Country Airplay next week and also Mediabase with "Here Tonight".
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Post by dajross6 on Apr 3, 2019 10:40:32 GMT -5
I don't have access to the numbers that you have for Billboard through two days, but using simple math and ratios between Billboard and MB, it looks like you're right. I'm guessing Brett Young has eaten through some of that lead difference in two days, which seems to suggest that he'll hold on. This isn't linear of course, and his Mediabase updates for the 2nd half of last week had him increase or lose slightly. I'm guessing he's going to shed airplay at a quicker rate the rest of the week. Does anyone have access to up to the minute Billboard numbers? I know back when Need You Now was #1 we were able to see up to the minute real-time Mediabase numbers, but that's long gone.
I think you're right that Luke will get a 7th week, but my gut tells me it will be tight. If we use Billboard audience ratios (dangerous because they change week to week), Luke is down about 0.6m and Brett is up maybe as much as 0.8-1.2m. If that difference is 1m through two days, it doesn't look like he'll make up the 6m gap. If the difference is closer to 1.8m, he's on pace to do it. I think it will come down to the wire and exactly what that Billboard number is. It will be interesting to see which label pushes harder if it's close on Sunday.
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 3, 2019 10:52:11 GMT -5
I don't have access to the numbers that you have for Billboard through two days, but using simple math and ratios between Billboard and MB, it looks like you're right. I'm guessing Brett Young has eaten through some of that lead difference in two days, which seems to suggest that he'll hold on. This isn't linear of course, and his Mediabase updates for the 2nd half of last week had him increase or lose slightly. I'm guessing he's going to shed airplay at a quicker rate the rest of the week. Does anyone have access to up to the minute Billboard numbers? I know back when Need You Now was #1 we were able to see up to the minute real-time Mediabase numbers, but that's long gone. I think you're right that Luke will get a 7th week, but my gut tells me it will be tight. If we use Billboard audience ratios (dangerous because they change week to week), Luke is down about 0.6m and Brett is up maybe as much as 0.8-1.2m. If that difference is 1m through two days, it doesn't look like he'll make up the 6m gap. If the difference is closer to 1.8m, he's on pace to do it. I think it will come down to the wire and exactly what that Billboard number is. It will be interesting to see which label pushes harder if it's close on Sunday. Billboard does not do daily updates like MediaBase. I do miss the old Radio & Records website with their Real Time Tracker. |
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 3, 2019 17:58:10 GMT -5
I don't have access to the numbers that you have for Billboard through two days, but using simple math and ratios between Billboard and MB, it looks like you're right. I'm guessing Brett Young has eaten through some of that lead difference in two days, which seems to suggest that he'll hold on. This isn't linear of course, and his Mediabase updates for the 2nd half of last week had him increase or lose slightly. I'm guessing he's going to shed airplay at a quicker rate the rest of the week. Does anyone have access to up to the minute Billboard numbers? I know back when Need You Now was #1 we were able to see up to the minute real-time Mediabase numbers, but that's long gone. I think you're right that Luke will get a 7th week, but my gut tells me it will be tight. If we use Billboard audience ratios (dangerous because they change week to week), Luke is down about 0.6m and Brett is up maybe as much as 0.8-1.2m. If that difference is 1m through two days, it doesn't look like he'll make up the 6m gap. If the difference is closer to 1.8m, he's on pace to do it. I think it will come down to the wire and exactly what that Billboard number is. It will be interesting to see which label pushes harder if it's close on Sunday. If someone takes the #1 on BB away from Luke Combs this week, it'll be Michael Ray. He's the one being given a max spins push right now; Brett Young is not in contention for the top right now, but he should be able to top both charts next week when the label starts the push for "Here Tonight." |
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 3, 2019 19:58:37 GMT -5
I don't have access to the numbers that you have for Billboard through two days, but using simple math and ratios between Billboard and MB, it looks like you're right. I'm guessing Brett Young has eaten through some of that lead difference in two days, which seems to suggest that he'll hold on. This isn't linear of course, and his Mediabase updates for the 2nd half of last week had him increase or lose slightly. I'm guessing he's going to shed airplay at a quicker rate the rest of the week. Does anyone have access to up to the minute Billboard numbers? I know back when Need You Now was #1 we were able to see up to the minute real-time Mediabase numbers, but that's long gone. I think you're right that Luke will get a 7th week, but my gut tells me it will be tight. If we use Billboard audience ratios (dangerous because they change week to week), Luke is down about 0.6m and Brett is up maybe as much as 0.8-1.2m. If that difference is 1m through two days, it doesn't look like he'll make up the 6m gap. If the difference is closer to 1.8m, he's on pace to do it. I think it will come down to the wire and exactly what that Billboard number is. It will be interesting to see which label pushes harder if it's close on Sunday. If someone takes the #1 on BB away from Luke Combs this week, it'll be Michael Ray. He's the one being given a max spins push right now; Brett Young is not in contention for the top right now, but he should be able to top both charts next week when the label starts the push for "Here Tonight." BMLG is pushing Riley Green next week. Brett Young's official push week starts April 14th. Although, I can see a split where Riley gets the Mediabase #1 by April 14th and Brett gets Billboard by the 15th. "Beautiful Crazy's" lead should start dwindling as the rest of this week goes on but I too see Luke Combs getting a 7th and final week at #1 on Billboard Airplay, which would be the first time in nearly 15 years ("Live Like You Were Dying"). |
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Post by Marv on Apr 3, 2019 21:08:07 GMT -5
As I pointed out on this board thirteen years ago this month during the unprecedented chart performance of 'Jesus, Take The Wheel', the staggering 10-week run t #1 atop the Mediabase chart for 'Live Like You Were Dying' was anything but 'asinine' IMHO.
To bring everyone up to speed including a nonstop steady stream of always-welcome newcomers to this board, these were the five most heavily played singles in the 21-year history of Mediabase (launched as Mediascan in 1985 before changing to Mediabase in 1987) up through the end of the chart run for JTTW, based on a SPSPW (Spins Per Station Per Week) basis.
1)-----Live Like You Were Dying----47.84
2)-----As Good As I Once Was-----43.88
3)-----I Go Back------------------43.71
4)-----Jesus, Take The Wheel-----43.64
5)-----There Goes My Life--------43.40
For a history lesson, scroll back to page 125 on this board and then go to page 31 on the thread for 'JTTW, since that entire 32-page thread is among the very best in this board's 15 1/2+ year history IMHO.
Suffice it so say that this single's six-week run at #1 atop the BB airplay chart is very impressive in its own right.
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 4, 2019 16:34:35 GMT -5
I just opened my Billboard Country Update. I'm going to smack Billboard upside its head. They forgot about Amazed:
Combs’ “Beautiful Crazy” (River House/Columbia Nashville) rules Country Airplay for a sixth week (40.1 million, up less than 1 percent), marking the list’s longest-leading No. 1 since Thomas Rhett’s “Die a Happy Man,” which dominated for six weeks beginning in January 2016. “Crazy” is the 21st song to top Country Airplay for at least six weeks in the chart’s 29-year history and is two frames shy of the record: Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffett’s “It’s Five O’Clock Somewhere,” which led for eight weeks in 2003.
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Post by CoJoFan on Apr 4, 2019 16:52:26 GMT -5
I just opened my Billboard Country Update. I'm going to smack Billboard upside its head. They forgot about Amazed: Combs’ “Beautiful Crazy” (River House/Columbia Nashville) rules Country Airplay for a sixth week (40.1 million, up less than 1 percent), marking the list’s longest-leading No. 1 since Thomas Rhett’s “Die a Happy Man,” which dominated for six weeks beginning in January 2016. “Crazy” is the 21st song to top Country Airplay for at least six weeks in the chart’s 29-year history and is two frames shy of the record: Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffett’s “It’s Five O’Clock Somewhere,” which led for eight weeks in 2003. The funny thing about the Alan and Jimmy song was that was 8 non consecutive weeks at the top. They were knocked out of #1 for 1 week by Dierks Bentley’s debut single “What Was I Thinkin’”. “Amazed” spent 8 consecutive weeks at #1 so what Luke is doing right now is pretty good. Especially if he gets that 7th week. 8 weeks will be hard for him probably. |
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 8, 2019 10:44:42 GMT -5
With today's update, do any of you guys think "Beautiful Crazy" will get that 7th week at #1?
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Post by CoJoFan on Apr 8, 2019 12:27:03 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 8, 2019 14:19:51 GMT -5
I knew you were going to post that. Move over Tim McGraw, there's a new sheriff in town. Too bad Luke Combs won't get an eighth week at the top. |
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Post by CoJoFan on Apr 8, 2019 14:30:42 GMT -5
I knew you were going to post that. Move over Tim McGraw, there's a new sheriff in town. Too bad Luke Combs won't get an eighth week at the top. This is Riley Green's push week I believe and not Brett's so it might be possible for an 8th week. Brett's push week is next week followed by Old Dominion's. |
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 8, 2019 15:02:44 GMT -5
I don’t see Luke getting an 8th. If it’s a split chart next week, it would be Riley getting Mediabase and Brett getting Billboard.
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Post by Naos on Apr 8, 2019 15:05:07 GMT -5
I don't think this is getting an 8th week either.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 8, 2019 15:10:54 GMT -5
Yeah, Brett Young is within a couple million of audience when it comes to Luke Combs.
On the brightside, bring on the slow Airplay fall on Billboard that will get people pissed by the middle of May when Luke Combs is only at #5 in that timeframe.
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Post by mhaq1967 on Apr 9, 2019 10:21:48 GMT -5
Anyone venture to guess what the next single might be?
Ome more from the current album or new music?
Never Met You is already almost Gold and is a sure thing and he played for the Xfinity Encore presentation Sunday night...
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 9, 2019 10:32:37 GMT -5
Anyone venture to guess what the next single might be? Ome more from the current album or new music? Never Met You is already almost Gold and is a sure thing and he played for the Xfinity Encore presentation Sunday night... Whatever it will be, Luke Combs would be smart to release the next single not so quickly. After all, recurrent airplay from Beautiful Crazy and She Got The Best Of Me would surely slow the new single's climb. |
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Post by jhomes87 on Apr 9, 2019 14:32:47 GMT -5
Anyone venture to guess what the next single might be? Ome more from the current album or new music? Never Met You is already almost Gold and is a sure thing and he played for the Xfinity Encore presentation Sunday night... Whatever it will be, Luke Combs would be smart to release the next single not so quickly. After all, recurrent airplay from Beautiful Crazy and She Got The Best Of Me would surely slow the new single's climb. All of Luke's singles are still getting a lot of recurrent airplay and will continue receiving a lot of airplay for a while, but I don't think they'll hurt his next single. He's that white hot right now that he could have two songs in the top 10 (which obviously already happened once) at the same time and radio programmers wouldn't blink an eye. My point is, Luke/his label can and should release his next single as soon as they're ready. They don't need to wait until his previous singles are getting less airplay because his new single will move up quickly no matter what. As for what his next release will be, he could easily release "Must've Never Met You" or "Houston, We Got A Problem" because both songs would smash, and it's a bummer that at least one of them (and probably the both of them) won't make it to the airwaves. I'm still thinking he'll drop the lead single to his second album sometime this spring rather than release a 6th single from his debut album, but you never know. He's obviously been playing some new songs in concert for a few months now, but I did see that he performed "Must've Never Met You" as an 'encore performance' after the ACMs, and it was broadcast on Comcast's Xfinity on Demand service. I absolutely love the song, and with it already being certified Gold, it's a sure thing that it would be a hit at radio. But again, I think it's more likely that we'll get something brand new. |
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Apr 9, 2019 21:48:56 GMT -5
With all the performing (and great reactions) of the new songs he has ready to go, I'd be surprised if they went with another single from this album. Sure, he's got plenty of options left on this album and he could probably release two or three more songs from it and they'd all be multi-week #1s. But so will the new songs and the new album. I'd expect the lead single from his next album to be here by the end of May at the latest.
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Post by Wackadoodle on Apr 11, 2019 18:28:25 GMT -5
So we went from “Live Like You Were Dying” to “Beautiful Crazy.” Notice the difference?
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Apr 11, 2019 18:43:37 GMT -5
So we went from “Live Like You Were Dying” to “Beautiful Crazy.” Notice the difference? No? |
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Post by Wackadoodle on Apr 11, 2019 20:48:38 GMT -5
So we went from “Live Like You Were Dying” to “Beautiful Crazy.” Notice the difference? No? I feel there’s been a huge drop in lyrical quality in this time span. Melody and vocals are going to depend on what your ear prefers, but these lyrics are weak. For a song to get seven weeks at #1, it should be held to the “Live Like You Were Dying” standard. I feel like our standards have gone way down since that song for a song as boring and uncreative as this to get seven weeks at number one. |
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 11, 2019 20:56:56 GMT -5
I feel there’s been a huge drop in lyrical quality in this time span. Melody and vocals are going to depend on what your ear prefers, but these lyrics are weak. For a song to get seven weeks at #1, it should be held to the “Live Like You Were Dying” standard. I feel like our standards have gone way down since that song for a song as boring and ulcerative as this to get seven weeks at number one. "Live Like You Were Dying" is above average at best and has been overplayed to death. "It's 5 O'Clock Somewhere" lasted even longer at #1 and it's probably one of my least favorite major hits ever. I'd easily take "Beautiful Crazy" over both, and it's still easily my least-favorite Luke Combs singles so far, lol. I definitely don't think it's low quality in any way though, just not as personally interesting to me compared to his other singles. But it's absolutely dominated every outlet it could (sales, streams, airplay), so obviously a lot of people do think its high quality. |
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Apr 11, 2019 21:11:14 GMT -5
I feel there’s been a huge drop in lyrical quality in this time span. Melody and vocals are going to depend on what your ear prefers, but these lyrics are weak. For a song to get seven weeks at #1, it should be held to the “Live Like You Were Dying” standard. I feel like our standards have gone way down since that song for a song as boring and ulcerative as this to get seven weeks at number one. I definitely agree that there’s been a drop in lyrical (and melodical) quality since LLYWD left the #1 spot, but I think “Beautiful Crazy” is the exception. It has relatable lyrics and country instrumentation that immediately puts it on level playing field with Tim’s song (which I think is a great song also). |
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Post by Wackadoodle on Apr 11, 2019 21:20:05 GMT -5
I guess my point is, the last time a song got seven weeks at #1, it was inspiring and almost philosophical. Now a song with much simpler lyrics can get that same acknowledgement. But like .indulgecountry said there’s really not a particular pattern here. A simple drinking song got eight weeks at number one. All this to say, I’m frustrated with Luke Combs and country radio in general lately. |
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Post by Wackadoodle on Apr 12, 2019 3:58:36 GMT -5
Now that I'm at my computer and the words can flow more freely, what I wanted to say was that the #1 song is also a reflection on all the other songs, since that's the best of what's out at any given time. I was trying to compare the two situations. Back when "Live Like You Were Dying" got 7 weeks at #1, the top 5 included Kenny Chesney's "I Go Back," Reba McEntire's "Somebody," Brad Paisley's "Whiskey Lullabye," and Billy Currington's "I Got A Feeling." Maybe it's just nostalgia for me, which would be ironic because I was like ten years old and didn't listen to country radio at the time, but it feels like we've gotten so far off track that now a song that sort of just says the same generic message about adoring women that a bunch of songs do, without really adding any sort of creative or colorful spin to it, can be a seven-week #1. And of course, like I said, the #1 song also makes a statement about the rest of the material at radio at any given time. Now we have songs like "What Makes You Country," "Take It from Me," "Millionaire," and "One That Got Away." The lyrics just aren't anywhere near as creative. Maybe what I'm trying to get at is that there's a lack of spirit being put into songs these days. It just feels like we keep getting the same cliches and platitudes over and over again.
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