Billboard Hot 100: 12/15/2018

[Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815...]

Dec 2, 2018 20:37:00 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I watched a clip of an interview that Mariah Carey did recently where she said there are no legends and no classic albums from this generation of artists and it left a bad taste in my mouth. I know she meant well because it didn't seem like she was being shady, but when older artists say things like that, it's hard not to see them as being bitter. Yes, a lot of the music coming out in this generation is low-quality, but EVERY generation of musicians has had artists who put out wack, bottom-of-the-barrel music. It's nothing new. I also did not agree with her opinion at all. We have MULTIPLE artists who are considered icons, if not legends already.

Drake and Rihanna are not legends, at least not yet. The closest thing to a legend is Beyonce. Gettting certifications doesn’t make anyone a legend. It’s past beyond that. So go get yourself some mouthwash.

[lazer]

So does that mean God's Plan is #1 in the Hot 100 year end?

[rimetm]

Dec 4, 2018 10:46:10 GMT -5 lazer said:

So does that mean God's Plan is #1 in the Hot 100?

It doesn't confirm or deconfirm it. Ed Sheeran's only major entry this year was Perfect (with some side points from stuff like River and End Game), so naturally Drake with his 3 #1s and swarm of top 10s and top 40s from the Scorpion bomb and guest features will give him the advantage on the Hot 100 Artists list.

[highho]

Rihanna is already an icon, legend and one of the Greatest, most Divine artists of our generation.

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 10:43:02 GMT -5 Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... said:

Dec 2, 2018 20:37:00 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I watched a clip of an interview that Mariah Carey did recently where she said there are no legends and no classic albums from this generation of artists and it left a bad taste in my mouth. I know she meant well because it didn't seem like she was being shady, but when older artists say things like that, it's hard not to see them as being bitter. Yes, a lot of the music coming out in this generation is low-quality, but EVERY generation of musicians has had artists who put out wack, bottom-of-the-barrel music. It's nothing new. I also did not agree with her opinion at all. We have MULTIPLE artists who are considered icons, if not legends already.

Drake and Rihanna are not legends, at least not yet. The closest thing to a legend is Beyonce. Gettting certifications doesn’t make anyone a legend. It’s past beyond that. So go get yourself some mouthwash.

Beyonce, Britney, Lady gaga, Rihanna, and Taylor swift are all legends. They have all made a huge impact on pop music. Rihanna has sold more records than Mariah. Beyonce, Britney, Lady gaga, and Taylor all have bigger tours than Mariah will ever have. I'm not trying to discredit Mariah because she is the GOAT. Im just saying that these artists also are legendary status. Just because your a lamb doesn't mean that there aren't any legends past her time.

[mackattack]

Dec 4, 2018 11:20:04 GMT -5 amore said:

Dec 4, 2018 10:43:02 GMT -5 Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... said:

Drake and Rihanna are not legends, at least not yet. The closest thing to a legend is Beyonce. Gettting certifications doesn’t make anyone a legend. It’s past beyond that. So go get yourself some mouthwash.

Beyonce, Britney, Lady gaga, Rihanna, and Taylor swift are all legends. They have all made a huge impact on pop music. Rihanna has sold more records than Mariah. Beyonce, Britney, Lady gaga, and Taylor all have bigger tours than Mariah will ever have. I'm not trying to discredit Mariah because she is the GOAT. Im just saying that these artists also are legendary status. Just because your a lamb doesn't mean that there aren't any legends past her time.

Girl...you’re about to get dragged........

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 10:43:02 GMT -5 Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... said:

Dec 2, 2018 20:37:00 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I watched a clip of an interview that Mariah Carey did recently where she said there are no legends and no classic albums from this generation of artists and it left a bad taste in my mouth. I know she meant well because it didn't seem like she was being shady, but when older artists say things like that, it's hard not to see them as being bitter. Yes, a lot of the music coming out in this generation is low-quality, but EVERY generation of musicians has had artists who put out wack, bottom-of-the-barrel music. It's nothing new. I also did not agree with her opinion at all. We have MULTIPLE artists who are considered icons, if not legends already.

Drake and Rihanna are not legends, at least not yet. The closest thing to a legend is Beyonce. Gettting certifications doesn’t make anyone a legend. It’s past beyond that. So go get yourself some mouthwash.

I also forgot to mention that Taylor swift is about to have the highest grossing tour of ALL TIME. She also has 2 album of the year awards.

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 11:25:16 GMT -5 mackattack said:

Dec 4, 2018 11:20:04 GMT -5 amore said:

Beyonce, Britney, Lady gaga, Rihanna, and Taylor swift are all legends. They have all made a huge impact on pop music. Rihanna has sold more records than Mariah. Beyonce, Britney, Lady gaga, and Taylor all have bigger tours than Mariah will ever have. I'm not trying to discredit Mariah because she is the GOAT. Im just saying that these artists also are legendary status. Just because your a lamb doesn't mean that there aren't any legends past her time.

Girl...you’re about to get dragged........

I got time today sis :).

[chartslovergermany]

Why are all the old songs from Billie Eilish starting to chart in the lower hot 100/bubbling under 100 and why are her old songs so high on Spotify global and US?
Not that they're bad,but I have no clue why

[Deleted]

Dec 4, 2018 9:13:39 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

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*** = Dropped or added a format

Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/12/04
1. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (148.776) (+1.800)
2. (=) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (139.075) (+0.751)
3. (+1) ARIANA GRANDE - Breathin (110.146) (+2.017)
4. (-1) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (107.544) (-0.772)
5. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You (103.296) (-1.263)
6. (=) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (92.253) (-1.769)
7. (=) POST MALONE - Better Now (89.623) (-1.261)
8. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (86.795) (+1.349)
9. (=) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (82.982) (+0.850)
10. (=) LOVELYTHEBAND - Broken (75.917) (+0.039)
11. (=) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (71.029) (+0.734)
12. (=) ELLA MAI - Trip (65.690) (-0.183)
13. (+1) KANE BROWN - Lose It (62.403) (-0.125)
14. (-1) JUICE WRLD - Lucid Dreams (61.797) (-1.987)
15. (=) JIMMIE ALLEN - Best Shot (60.290) (-0.450)
16. (=) GUCCI MANE/BRUNO/KODAK - Wake Up In The Sky (59.540) (+0.570)
17. (=) LUKE COMBS - She Got The Best Of Me (56.944) (-0.539)
18. (=) LAUV - I Like Me Better (56.906) (-0.345)
19. (+1) NF - Lie (55.193) (-0.528)
20. (+3) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (54.956) (+2.611)

Others:
23. (-1) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (52.993) (+0.602)
24. (=) MITCHELL TENPENNY - Drunk Me (52.335) (+1.254)
26. (+2) BAD BUNNY - MIA f/Drake (48.826) (+1.408)
40. (+3) KODAK BLACK - Zeze f/Travis Scott & Offset (38.928) (+0.558)
42. (+3) LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER - Shallow (38.099) (+0.506)
50. (+4) JASON ALDEAN - Girl Like You (31.788) (+0.548)
55. (+1) CAMILA CABELLO - Consequences (30.780) (+0.611)
74. (+2) CARDI B - Money (24.728) (+0.561)

How many weeks/days now has Ariana had two songs in top 20 airplay? Because didn’t GIAW enter as NTLTC was still there and then Breathin as GIAW and now TUN has replaced GIAW while Breathin is still up there.

[renaboss]

I don't know why but I also have an issue with calling an artist who came out in the new millennium a legend. I'm not arguing with it, I just don't do it myself. So while I will agree that Beyoncé is a legend (she started out on DC in the late '90s), I wouldn't call Rihanna one just yet. She's gonna go down a legend - I have no doubt about that. Just feels too soon for that.

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 15:02:25 GMT -5 renaboss said:

I don't know why but I also have an issue with calling an artist who came out in the new millennium a legend. I'm not arguing with it, I just don't do it myself. So while I will agree that Beyoncé is a legend (she started out on DC in the late '90s), I wouldn't call Rihanna one just yet. She's gonna go down a legend - I have no doubt about that. Just feels too soon for that.

Understandable. Idk I just feel like Taylor swift, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, and Adele are legends IMO. The numbers they pulled at their peaks are unmatched. Taylor swift is definitely a legend. Her tours are something else.

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 15:02:25 GMT -5 renaboss said:

I don't know why but I also have an issue with calling an artist who came out in the new millennium a legend. I'm not arguing with it, I just don't do it myself. So while I will agree that Beyoncé is a legend (she started out on DC in the late '90s), I wouldn't call Rihanna one just yet. She's gonna go down a legend - I have no doubt about that. Just feels too soon for that.

Now male legends are a completely different ball game.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Well for those who feel is is too soon to call Rihanna or Taylor (the newer slew of artists) legends, would you have considered Mariah a legend in the year 2000 (10 years into her career)? Or Whitney post Bodyguard a legend (10 years into her career)? And if not, what year did they pass the threshold?

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

In regards to the comments about no classic albums have come out this generation, I can kind of agree with Mariah on that. It’s not because there have been no albums worthy of that level of praise but that albums are of lower priority and presence of late than they have been in the 90s and before. Albums like Teenage Dream or 1989 do really well and have tons of success and singles but in terms of being a double-whammy of success, they don’t have the universal appeal that a lot of the “classics” have had. They appeal to more limited audiences, and the same goes for more music these days. While music itself might be more of a fusion of different genres, I do think consumption of music has become more segmented thanks to the ease and convenience of the internet. People create and listen to their own playlists more compared to populations collectively consuming music through radio and tv programming. You’re less likely to get wide agreement on what a modern day classic is than you would on what a classic is from decades ago.

[Envoirment]

I would say there's at least one classic album from this generation...

[Gary]

"legend", "icon", "classic" all opinions as to how they are applied

I am going to beat the rush and call Cardi B a legend -

[Caviar]

Dec 4, 2018 16:12:34 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

I would say there's at least one classic album from this generation...

While there will be other stan bases giving their own thoughts, this album comes the CLOSEST to legendary status since 2000. No other artist will reach that level of success again.

[iHype.]

Imagine seriously thinking there is no classic albums this generation? I really hope I never grow out of touch with pop culture to that degree.



And lmao I love Mariah, but she’s saying that simply because she doesn’t like the music of today (like 95% of people who say that). I also doubt she’d be having that same energy if she was still the highest selling artist of today and pumping out #1s. So many artists love to have the mentality that when they were at their peak and a success goliath that was when Music was at its peak days and when they stopped seeing that success *coincidentally* the music industry turned to trash. Kinda like those people who swear their childhood generation had the peak childhood, and the successor generations of children are trash. Just nostalgia bias.

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 16:38:59 GMT -5 Caviar said:

Dec 4, 2018 16:12:34 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

I would say there's at least one classic album from this generation...

While there will be other stan bases giving their own thoughts, this album comes the CLOSEST to legendary status since 2000. No other artist will reach that level of success again.

This album would like a word with you. 21 and this album are both legendary.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Dec 4, 2018 16:45:55 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Imagine seriously thinking there is no classic albums this generation? I really hope I never grow out of touch with pop culture to that degree.

I personally think there are plenty of classic albums. And that's often what it comes down to, personal opinion. For everyone who believes Teenage Dream or The Fame Monster is a classic, there are plenty who would disagree, or say "not quiiiite". Compared to the Purple Rains, Born In The USAs, Songs in the Key of Lifes, etc, etc. But of course, then it becomes a generational thing. If your threshold of what constitutes a classic is basing it off of criteria that no longer qualifies, of course we'd never see those types of albums again (aside from the aforementioned 21). Perhaps Mariah is basing her definition of a "classic" on those generation-inspiring landmark albums that these days simply look and feel different. I think The Fame Monster is a classic album. Carly Rae's Emotion will go down as a pop classic as will Avril's Let Go. Dixie Chicks' Taking The Long Way, and then there are classics outside of the mainstream pop sphere. Kathleen Edwards' Failer, to me, is a Canadian alt-rock classic, and so on. I think Mariah has a point but like you said, a lot of it has to do with personal perspective and I think many people fail to adjust their perspectives as the times and musical landscapes change.

[cassiuscasanova]

Theres actually a few classic albums that im shocked she would even say this. Future love sex sounds, Dutchess, Dangerously in love, Confessions, Hybrid Theory, Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, 21, Diary of alicia keys, Fame Monster, Take Care, Confessions on a dance floor, Carter 3. I mean, this list could go on

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 17:08:20 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Dec 4, 2018 16:45:55 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Imagine seriously thinking there is no classic albums this generation? I really hope I never grow out of touch with pop culture to that degree.

I personally think there are plenty of classic albums. And that's often what it comes down to, personal opinion. For everyone who believes Teenage Dream or The Fame Monster is a classic, there are plenty who would disagree, or say "not quiiiite". Compared to the Purple Rains, Born In The USAs, Songs in the Key of Lifes, etc, etc. But of course, then it becomes a generational thing. If your threshold of what constitutes a classic is basing it off of criteria that no longer qualifies, of course we'd never see those types of albums again (aside from the aforementioned 21). Perhaps Mariah is basing her definition of a "classic" on those generation-inspiring landmark albums that these days simply look and feel different. I think The Fame Monster is a classic album. Carly Rae's Emotion will go down as a pop classic as will Avril's Let Go. Dixie Chicks' Taking The Long Way, and then there are classics outside of the mainstream pop sphere. Kathleen Edwards' Failer, to me, is a Canadian alt-rock classic, and so on. I think Mariah has a point but like you said, a lot of it has to do with personal perspective and I think many people fail to adjust their perspectives as the times and musical landscapes change.

Hell I even think that Night visions by Imagine dragons is a classic album. Radioactive and Demons are timeless songs. Also Mariah is thinking that a classic album has to be like "The Bodyguard" or Michael jacksons "Thriller". Albums will never have that type of success now. Music is just consumed so differently. You can basically retreat into your own world of music now. Back in the day, everyone listened to the same thing because of radio,tv, MTV etc. Im pretty sure back them everybody knew the top 40 of billboard. Now, there are songs in the Top 10 that I wouldn't even know existed if I wasn't on pulse. Im actually glad that I can listen to my own underground artists and pretty much ignore the top 40. This wasn't possible back then.

[iHype.]

Dec 4, 2018 17:08:20 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Dec 4, 2018 16:45:55 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Imagine seriously thinking there is no classic albums this generation? I really hope I never grow out of touch with pop culture to that degree.

I personally think there are plenty of classic albums. And that's often what it comes down to, personal opinion. For everyone who believes Teenage Dream or The Fame Monster is a classic, there are plenty who would disagree, or say "not quiiiite". Compared to the Purple Rains, Born In The USAs, Songs in the Key of Lifes, etc, etc. But of course, then it becomes a generational thing. If your threshold of what constitutes a classic is basing it off of criteria that no longer qualifies, of course we'd never see those types of albums again (aside from the aforementioned 21). Perhaps Mariah is basing her definition of a "classic" on those generation-inspiring landmark albums that these days simply look and feel different. I think The Fame Monster is a classic album. Carly Rae's Emotion will go down as a pop classic as will Avril's Let Go. Dixie Chicks' Taking The Long Way, and then there are classics outside of the mainstream pop sphere. Kathleen Edwards' Failer, to me, is a Canadian alt-rock classic, and so on. I think Mariah has a point but like you said, a lot of it has to do with personal perspective and I think many people fail to adjust their perspectives as the times and musical landscapes change.

Girl you compared Katy Perry to Bruce Springsteen. Two different audiences. Just like Nirvana & Radiohead fans would disagree with Mariah’s albums being classics. (We already know how stuck up white-straight-male consumers view any mainstream female music to begin with lbr). It’s really all generational/subjective/nostalgia sided.

I also believe there’s different types of classics. The universally acclaimed albums that maybe didn’t have a huge mainstream hit from each generation, the albums that had a handful of smash hits & spawned iconic Pop culture moments from each generation, the albums that became appreciated decades later from each generation, etc.

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 17:20:36 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Dec 4, 2018 17:08:20 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

I personally think there are plenty of classic albums. And that's often what it comes down to, personal opinion. For everyone who believes Teenage Dream or The Fame Monster is a classic, there are plenty who would disagree, or say "not quiiiite". Compared to the Purple Rains, Born In The USAs, Songs in the Key of Lifes, etc, etc. But of course, then it becomes a generational thing. If your threshold of what constitutes a classic is basing it off of criteria that no longer qualifies, of course we'd never see those types of albums again (aside from the aforementioned 21). Perhaps Mariah is basing her definition of a "classic" on those generation-inspiring landmark albums that these days simply look and feel different. I think The Fame Monster is a classic album. Carly Rae's Emotion will go down as a pop classic as will Avril's Let Go. Dixie Chicks' Taking The Long Way, and then there are classics outside of the mainstream pop sphere. Kathleen Edwards' Failer, to me, is a Canadian alt-rock classic, and so on. I think Mariah has a point but like you said, a lot of it has to do with personal perspective and I think many people fail to adjust their perspectives as the times and musical landscapes change.

Girl you compared Katy Perry to Bruce Springsteen. Two different audiences. Just like Nirvana & Radiohead fans would disagree with Mariah’s albums being classics. (And we already know how the stuck up white-straight-male consumers view any mainstream female music to begin with lbr). It’s really all generational/subjective/nostalgia sided.

Tbfh. Metalheads probably hate Madonna, but that doesn't change the fact that she is the best spelling female artist of all time.

[deepston]

Mariah is so out of touch these days... 21 is far more of a classic than any of her albums.

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 17:25:00 GMT -5 deepston said:

Mariah is so out of touch these days... 21 is far more of a classic than any of her albums.

* Lambs incoming *

[TakeMe]

What has Beyoncé done that is legendary?

[amore]

Dec 4, 2018 17:49:19 GMT -5 TakeMe said:

What has Beyoncé done that is legendary?

Hmmmmm somebody else can take this one ....

[korbel16]

Dec 4, 2018 16:12:34 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

I would say there's at least one classic album from this generation...

omg ... you didn’t have to go there..