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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 19:14:54 GMT -5
Because a lot of people really enjoy it. It's also doing really well in streaming and airplay. I guess. It just feels so random. Nothing about it screamed "hit" when I first heard it, to me it's just another Halsey song. Congrats to her regardless though. In part, I think it's another example - alongside Thank U, Next - of very personal, timely, honest, real-to-life lyrics after her break-up with G-Eazy. It's practically in real-time. Audiences are invested in personal lives so much these days, it's a selling point, and quite the built-in hook/marketing tool. Aside from that, I personally think it's a good song. I love the pre-chorus - it's super effective. And her voice/tone gives it even more of an emotional vibe, rather effortlessly.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Dec 20, 2018 19:15:01 GMT -5
SZA just dropped a new album with 2 Kendrick Lamar features.
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 20, 2018 19:15:52 GMT -5
SZA just dropped a new album with 3 Kendrick Lamar features. Thank you for sharing this!!! This has just made my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kavinsky finally dropped! :)
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 20, 2018 19:18:03 GMT -5
SZA just dropped a new album with 3 Kendrick Lamar features. Thank you for sharing this!!! This has just made my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn.
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Post by korbel16 on Dec 20, 2018 19:57:54 GMT -5
SZA just dropped a new album with 2 Kendrick Lamar features. it’s a leak hehe but hey it’s something 🤷🏽♀️ Hopefully they don’t delete it b4 I’m done listening
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Post by Kris on Dec 20, 2018 20:21:56 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity what day does the freeze generally start on?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 20, 2018 21:08:43 GMT -5
^This weekend. Monday is Xmas Eve so radio pds probably have the week off.
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Post by wavey. on Dec 20, 2018 22:45:32 GMT -5
SZA just dropped a new album with 2 Kendrick Lamar features. it’s a leak hehe but hey it’s something 🤷🏽♀️ Hopefully they don’t delete it b4 I’m done listening They just took it all off😥
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 20, 2018 23:09:53 GMT -5
I guess. It just feels so random. Nothing about it screamed "hit" when I first heard it, to me it's just another Halsey song. Congrats to her regardless though. In part, I think it's another example - alongside Thank U, Next - of very personal, timely, honest, real-to-life lyrics after her break-up with G-Eazy. It's practically in real-time. Audiences are invested in personal lives so much these days, it's a selling point, and quite the built-in hook/marketing tool. Aside from that, I personally think it's a good song. I love the pre-chorus - it's super effective. And her voice/tone gives it even more of an emotional vibe, rather effortlessly. It was also just performed on the voice and got a lot of press for her inclusion of dancing with another female
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Post by hunterquigley on Dec 21, 2018 0:51:24 GMT -5
Are we not going to find out this week’s chart until Wednesday after Christmas?
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Post by kcdawg13 on Dec 21, 2018 4:11:37 GMT -5
Here's a great article on the Christmas Freeze for the uninformed.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Dec 21, 2018 9:17:44 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/12/211. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (162.154) (-0.000) 2. (=) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (136.645) (+0.273) 3. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - Breathin (120.117) (-0.023) 4. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (114.064) (+1.521) 5. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (107.432) (+1.417) 6. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You (90.402) (-0.059) 7. (=) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (89.702) (-0.039) 8. (=) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (88.163) (+0.681) 9. (=) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (86.273) (+0.261) 10. (=) POST MALONE - Better Now (77.917) (-0.366) 11. (=) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (77.757) (-0.442) 12. (=) ELLA MAI - Trip (69.663) (-0.685) 13. (=) LOVELYTHEBAND - Broken (63.416) (-1.157) 14. (+2) BAD BUNNY - MIA f/Drake (60.208) (+1.243) 15. (-1) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (60.146) (+0.781) 16. (-1) DAN + SHAY - Speechless (59.551) (+0.207) 17. (=) GUCCI MANE/BRUNO/KODAK - Wake Up In The Sky (57.122) (-0.295) 18. (=) LUKE COMBS - She Got The Best Of Me (53.511) (+0.016) 19. (+2) DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B - Taki Taki (53.257) (+1.169) 20. (-1) KANE BROWN - Lose It (52.661) (-0.209) Others: 27. (=) THOMAS RHETT - Sixteen (47.772) (+0.699) 28. (=) DUSTIN LYNCH - Good Girl (46.436) (+0.667) 29. (=) DIERKS BENTLEY - Burning Man f/Brothers Osborne (46.048) (+0.684) 31. (=) ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO - Close To Me f/Swae Lee (43.203) (+0.834) 32. (+1) JASON ALDEAN - Girl Like You (42.752) (+0.960) 33. (-1) KIP MOORE - Last Shot (42.405) (+0.551) 50. (=) LUKE BRYAN - What Makes You Country (32.534) (+0.554) 51. (+1) JORDAN DAVIS - Take It From Me (31.669) (+0.595) 63. (+1) THE CHAINSMOKERS F/KELSEA BALLERINI - This Feeling (27.632) (+0.620) 74. (+2) MARK RONSON F/MILEY CYRUS - Nothing Breaks Like A Heart (22.788) (+0.625)
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Post by renaboss on Dec 21, 2018 10:19:52 GMT -5
I caught a tweet about a Beyoncé album leaking, is it true?
Edit: Nvm I googled it, it's old crap.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 21, 2018 10:46:52 GMT -5
I caught a tweet about a Beyoncé album leaking, is it true? Edit: Nvm I googled it, it's old crap. I like how you answered this question yourself, lol.
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Post by amore on Dec 21, 2018 11:57:43 GMT -5
Looks like the freeze has started. :)
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 21, 2018 13:31:07 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 21, 2018 13:35:27 GMT -5
I caught a tweet about a Beyoncé album leaking, is it true? Edit: Nvm I googled it, it's old crap. OMG this is like the third time this rumor has popped up. Lol.
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 21, 2018 14:59:15 GMT -5
People are reminiscing the beauty of "Beyoncé" every year lol
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 22, 2018 1:01:11 GMT -5
Is Cardi B going top 10 with Money or is the airplay non existent?
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Post by kimberly on Dec 22, 2018 6:15:15 GMT -5
Is Cardi B going top 10 with Money or is the airplay non existent? TBH she sat on the song for way too long without the music video, and with her current Offset divorce/publicity stunt drama, idk about her general public approval. "Money" gets slightly less airplay than "I Like It" right now, they're at numbers 47 and 48. It might go top ten but it is not getting near #1 at all it seems.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Dec 22, 2018 9:23:30 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/12/221. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (162.062) (-0.092) 2. (=) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (136.378) (-0.267) 3. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - Breathin (120.866) (+0.749) 4. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (115.226) (+1.162) 5. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (108.812) (+1.380) 6. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You (90.638) (+0.236) 7. (=) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (89.577) (-0.125) 8. (=) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (88.826) (+0.663) 9. (=) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (86.182) (-0.091) 10. (+1) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (77.427) (-0.330) 11. (-1) POST MALONE - Better Now (77.128) (-0.789) 12. (=) ELLA MAI - Trip (69.306) (-0.357) 13. (=) LOVELYTHEBAND - Broken (62.585) (-0.831) 14. (=) BAD BUNNY - MIA f/Drake (61.486) (+1.278) 15. (=) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (60.604) (+0.458) 16. (=) DAN + SHAY - Speechless (60.160) (+0.609) 17. (=) GUCCI MANE/BRUNO/KODAK - Wake Up In The Sky (57.002) (-0.120) 18. (+1) DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B - Taki Taki (54.618) (+1.361) 19. (-1) LUKE COMBS - She Got The Best Of Me (53.778) (+0.267) 20. (+2) BAZZI - Beautiful (52.661) (+0.883) Others: 24. (=) KODAK BLACK - Zeze f/Travis Scott & Offset (50.844) (+0.735) 28. (=) DUSTIN LYNCH - Good Girl (47.294) (+0.858) 29. (=) DIERKS BENTLEY - Burning Man f/Brothers Osborne (46.651) (+0.603) 30. (+1) ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO - Close To Me f/Swae Lee (43.892) (+0.689) 32. (=) JASON ALDEAN - Girl Like You (43.355) (+0.603) 33. (=) KIP MOORE - Last Shot (42.953) (+0.548) 36. (+1) LIL DUVAL - Smile B*tch f/Snoop & B.Greezy (41.039) (+0.565) *** 37. (+3) SCOTTY MCCREERY - This Is It (40.454) (+0.670) 44. (+1) KHALID - Better (36.889) (+0.637) *** 72. (+2) MARK RONSON F/MILEY CYRUS - Nothing Breaks Like A Heart (23.421) (+0.633)
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Post by imbondz on Dec 22, 2018 9:36:24 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/12/211. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (162.154) (-0.000) 2. (=) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (136.645) (+0.273) 3. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - Breathin (120.117) (-0.023) 4. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (114.064) (+1.521) 5. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (107.432) (+1.417) 6. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You (90.402) (-0.059) 7. (=) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (89.702) (-0.039) 8. (=) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (88.163) (+0.681) 9. (=) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (86.273) (+0.261) 10. (=) POST MALONE - Better Now (77.917) (-0.366) 11. (=) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (77.757) (-0.442) 12. (=) ELLA MAI - Trip (69.663) (-0.685) 13. (=) LOVELYTHEBAND - Broken (63.416) (-1.157) 14. (+2) BAD BUNNY - MIA f/Drake (60.208) (+1.243) 15. (-1) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (60.146) (+0.781) 16. (-1) DAN + SHAY - Speechless (59.551) (+0.207) 17. (=) GUCCI MANE/BRUNO/KODAK - Wake Up In The Sky (57.122) (-0.295) 18. (=) LUKE COMBS - She Got The Best Of Me (53.511) (+0.016) 19. (+2) DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B - Taki Taki (53.257) (+1.169) 20. (-1) KANE BROWN - Lose It (52.661) (-0.209) Others: 27. (=) THOMAS RHETT - Sixteen (47.772) (+0.699) 28. (=) DUSTIN LYNCH - Good Girl (46.436) (+0.667) 29. (=) DIERKS BENTLEY - Burning Man f/Brothers Osborne (46.048) (+0.684) 31. (=) ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO - Close To Me f/Swae Lee (43.203) (+0.834) 32. (+1) JASON ALDEAN - Girl Like You (42.752) (+0.960) 33. (-1) KIP MOORE - Last Shot (42.405) (+0.551) 50. (=) LUKE BRYAN - What Makes You Country (32.534) (+0.554) 51. (+1) JORDAN DAVIS - Take It From Me (31.669) (+0.595) 63. (+1) THE CHAINSMOKERS F/KELSEA BALLERINI - This Feeling (27.632) (+0.620) 74. (+2) MARK RONSON F/MILEY CYRUS - Nothing Breaks Like A Heart (22.788) (+0.625) Where does Alll I Want for Christmas Is You fit into this?
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Post by amore on Dec 22, 2018 9:59:59 GMT -5
Is Cardi B going top 10 with Money or is the airplay non existent? It's kinda over for Money. Moments like this makes me happy that Ariana grande made her video really fast while the hype was still there. Cardi b is amazing, but Money has somewhat died down. I feel like with the new billboard rules + streaming, it is much more beneficial to release a single with a video.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 22, 2018 12:13:02 GMT -5
RE Bobby Helms' "Jingle Bell Rock": it first charted back in 1957 on Billboard's Top 100, where it reached No. 6. It then charted on the Hot 100 in 1958, and 1960-1962.
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Post by renaboss on Dec 22, 2018 12:46:43 GMT -5
Is "Money" not doing great then? Cos I expected that video to cause a commotion...
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Post by ddlz on Dec 22, 2018 13:01:24 GMT -5
Money video has 8,5 million views and the song just entered Top 5 on iTunes. I'd say it's doing great considering how late it was released.
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Post by livelightning on Dec 22, 2018 14:59:06 GMT -5
"a lot" by 21 Savage debuted at #2 on Spotify. Yes! Let's go 21
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Post by wavey. on Dec 22, 2018 16:28:38 GMT -5
It's kinda over for Money. Moments like this makes me happy that Ariana grande made her video really fast while the hype was still there. Cardi b is amazing, but Money has somewhat died down. I feel like with the new billboard rules + streaming, it is much more beneficial to release a single with a video. That should be the strategy from now on with all artists, regardless if it underperforms or not. It would just seem more prepared with the way things are quickly consumed now.
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Post by mackattack on Dec 22, 2018 16:41:01 GMT -5
It's kinda over for Money. Moments like this makes me happy that Ariana grande made her video really fast while the hype was still there. Cardi b is amazing, but Money has somewhat died down. I feel like with the new billboard rules + streaming, it is much more beneficial to release a single with a video. I wish Ariana had been as quick with Breathin as she was with TUN but I guess she was going through a lot at the time.
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Post by 85la on Dec 22, 2018 16:52:53 GMT -5
Here's a great article on the Christmas Freeze for the uninformed. Wow, I thought the freeze only referred to the week after Christmas when much of radio staffing takes off and they play the year-end countdowns; here they are referring to it as the whole holiday season, pretty much most of November and December, and even into early January! (this does seem to be a Canadian article though, but a lot of it can apply to the US as well). I guess if you're a brand new artist, this wouldn't be the time to release because there's so much competition with all the big hits that were released earlier starting to boom and reach their peak, and radio programmers are busy scheduling and devoting airtime to Christmas music, but I think if you're already an established artist the cutoff would be early to mid-November and you could release a single and still have a reasonable chance or it enjoying success, of course depending on the song and artist and if the label would be willing to take that risk. Of course this was the case with Thank U Next, which blew up right from the beginning (and she was already competing with herself with a couple other songs out already).
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