Billboard Hot 100: 02/02/2019

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Jan 26, 2019 15:31:21 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

J. Cole with 3.8m on Spotify yesterday. Top 10 debut coming?

Yeah, top 2 on Sales and top 2 on Streaming. I'd say top 5 is coming.

[owenlovesmusic]

Jan 26, 2019 15:35:46 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Jan 26, 2019 15:31:21 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

J. Cole with 3.8m on Spotify yesterday. Top 10 debut coming?

Yeah, top 2 on Sales and top 2 on Streaming. I'd say top 5 is coming.

Sure hope so. My favorite song of 2019 so far.

[Golden Bluebird]

Jan 26, 2019 15:31:21 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

J. Cole with 3.8m on Spotify yesterday. Top 10 debut coming?

Nah, it will debut this week, and not in the Top 10 considering it only had a little more than a day of streaming and sales to make any impact on the chart. However, it'll most likely jump to the Top 10 next week.

[Enigma.]

Jan 26, 2019 15:34:12 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

Jan 26, 2019 15:22:44 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Indeed, the fact that she's taking over the out-of-the-gate streaming records WW from Drake and Ed Sheeran is quite something.

What records is she over taking? 7 Rings and Thank U, Next don’t have any bigger streaming days than In My Feelings or Shape Of You.

[owenlovesmusic]

Jan 26, 2019 15:50:40 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Jan 26, 2019 15:34:12 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

What records is she over taking? 7 Rings and Thank U, Next don’t have any bigger streaming days than In My Feelings or Shape Of You.

Thought u meant daily that’s my bad

[Enigma.]

And the daily Spotify record is actually held by Mariah!

[Caviar]

Damn ari is killing her competition right now and she’s showing no signs of letting up.

[fhas]

Jan 26, 2019 16:00:36 GMT -5 Codex said:

Jan 26, 2019 11:10:06 GMT -5 Xander said:

Well. 7 rings fell -8M in audience. I’m not surprised. All that payola was used for it to debut at #1. Yikes

I know you’re a troll, but the first day airplay counted for last week, when it didn’t chart. So even if it was payola, it doesn’t count towards her #1.

Payola helps songs to be known by the GP. There is probably a lot of people who didn't know the song until it was played on the radio hourly during that Friday and after that they bought or streamed the song for many reasons (they liked it, tried to understands its lyrics, etc.)

[kimberly]

Jan 26, 2019 15:21:51 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

Jan 26, 2019 14:45:31 GMT -5 kimberly said:

"7 rings" is #1 sis, and everyone that doubted Ariana is crying in the corner, again. I don't know how much longer she'll keep this up, but she is dominating as much as, if not more than how Taylor Swift did in 2014-15 and Katy Perry in 2010-12.

Katy Perry had 6 #1s, and Taylor Swift had 3 massive #1s with other hits. Ariana has almost 2 #1s and an unsuccessful promo single so far. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

I wouldn't call "Imagine" unsuccessful. It would've debuted Top 20 without the Christmas music, which is what the likes of "Out of the Woods" and "Dark Horse" did when they were promo releases. "the light is coming" on the other hand is a very massively unsuccessful promo single. The fact that Ariana went from that to having 2 #1 debuts off of an album speaks for itself. 

[kierz7]

Jan 26, 2019 19:07:10 GMT -5 Codex said:

Shake It Off, Blank Space, California Gurls, ET and Firework were all bigger than TYN, assuming it continues an In My Feelings style chart run. She’s doing well, but I’d wait for a third #1 and see how well they all hold up before saying that she’s on the (commercial) level of 1989 Taylor or TD Katy.

She’s reached Loud Rihanna level, though, if we combine it with the Sweetener era.

LMAO.

In what way, shape or form has she reached Rihanna’s “LOUD” era?

The “LOUD” era produced three collosal, consecutive number one singles, the same as Swift’s “1989” era, including several outstanding top ten singles not to mention that the former era lasted 10 months of promotional activity alone before Rihanna abandoned it and casually moved onto the “Talk That Talk” era.

•Fun fact: “LOUD” sold 300K less than “TD” WW even though the latter was the slightly bigger overall era: +6.6M vs +6.9M•

She isn’t on Rihanna (who also had the massive “GGGB” era prior to “LOUD”), Taylor Swift or peak Katy Perry’s level, commercially speaking and especially culturally speaking. If she gets a third number one single then we can have a conversation.

Right now, she’s on Ke$ha’s level during the “Animal/Cannibal” eras and that’s putting it lightly.

[wavey.]

She's on her own level🤷🏽‍♂️

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^^ Yeah, like everybody thought Teenage Dream will be the biggest era of the 2010s when Teenage Dream (single) was released. Give it some time.

[hot100predictions]

Jan 26, 2019 20:58:04 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

^^ Yeah, like everybody thought Teenage Dream will be the biggest era of the 2010s when Teenage Dream (single) was released. Give it some time.

Bitch stop trolling, we all know Teenage Dream WAS the biggest era of the 2010s.

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Jan 26, 2019 21:17:51 GMT -5 hot100predictions said:

Jan 26, 2019 20:58:04 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

^^ Yeah, like everybody thought Teenage Dream will be the biggest era of the 2010s when Teenage Dream (single) was released. Give it some time.

Bitch stop trolling, we all know Teenage Dream WAS the biggest era of the 2010s.

Trolling? You're sarcastic now or what?

[kierz7]

^^^^^^^

“Teenage Dream” isn’t the biggest overall era of the 2010’s.

It’s the biggest singles era of the 2010’s in the U.S (that’s not to be undermined at all) but that’s only one element of success.

As it stands, both commercially and culturally, and on a Global scale, the biggest era of the 2010’s is Adele’s “21”.

• Three Collosal #1 Singles - “Rolling In The Deep” is the Best Selling Single of the 21st Century.

• +30M Pure Album Sales WW.

• 8 GRAMMY awards (incl’ “Album of the Year”).

• +100 Awards Won - The Most Awarded Album of the 21st Century.

• +45M Pure Album Equivalents Moved WW.

[Gary]

As there are several different measurements “biggest era” is subject to opinion it seems

[Glove Slap]

Ariana is somewhere below where Rihanna was during Loud, but higher than during GGGB.

Still well below Katy's peak, let alone Gaga's and Taylor's (the latter is still well above her too).

[noober]

The biggest era in this decade by female artist IMO

1. 21
2. TD
3. 1989
4. Loud
5. 25

[aussie1]

I feel like Ariana is on a similar route Rihanna was on during "Loud", but the singles just don't feel as big as the loud singles, even though they probably are. I mean regardless it's to early to even tell. Thank u, next has been out for like 10 weeks? 7 rings a week. Not to mention the album isn't even out. Lets just wait and see how this era compares to past eras in a couple of months.

[edward]

7 Rings and Thank u,next both debuted on UK,US,AU,CA no.1(I never saw another one do this.), and she keeps breaking female streaming records. She performs unbelievable good on AM, spotify,and broke the youtube record with tun music video. But it seems like you guys consider it nothing near massive. Why?

[hot100predictions]

7 Rings official first week numbers:

U.S. streams ~ 82.4 million streams
Pure sales ~ 86,000 downloads
U.S. radio ~ 31.5 million audience

7 Rings is set to debut at #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart dated, February 2, 2019. This will be Ariana Grande's second number one song on the chart. Her other number-one song: Thank U, Next led the chart for 7 weeks back in late 2018 and early 2019. This will also be the second number one single off her fifth studio album titled, thank u, next. The album is expected to be released on February 8, 2019.  

[kimberly]

Jan 27, 2019 1:34:56 GMT -5 aussie1 said:

I feel like Ariana is on a similar route Rihanna was on during "Loud", but the singles just don't feel as big as the loud singles, even though they probably are. I mean regardless it's to early to even tell. Thank u, next has been out for like 10 weeks? 7 rings a week. Not to mention the album isn't even out. Lets just wait and see how this era compares to past eras in a couple of months.

Historically, Ariana's singles haven't shown great longevity, so I agree that we need to wait and see, hence the "idk how much longer she will keep this up" in my original post. BUT she is THE pop girl & she has been giving hit after hit since NTLTC debuted more than 9 months ago. She's joining a very elite group of artists with multiple #1 debuts, and she'll be tying Drake for shortest span between 2 #1 debuts (both 11 weeks, I believe).

[tanooki]

Jan 27, 2019 1:53:29 GMT -5 hot100predictions said:

7 Rings official first week numbers:

U.S. streams ~ 82.5 million streams
Pure sales ~ 86,000 downloads
U.S. radio ~ 31.5 million audience

7 Rings is set to debut at #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart dated, February 2, 2019. This will be Ariana Grande's second number one song on the chart. Her other number-one song: Thank U, Next led the chart for 7 weeks back in late 2018 and early 2019. This will also be the second number one single off her fifth studio album titled, thank u, next. The album is expected to be released on February 8, 2019.  

where are you getting these numbers

[hot100predictions]

Jan 27, 2019 2:00:16 GMT -5 tanooki said:

Jan 27, 2019 1:53:29 GMT -5 hot100predictions said:

7 Rings official first week numbers:

U.S. streams ~ 82.5 million streams
Pure sales ~ 86,000 downloads
U.S. radio ~ 31.5 million audience

7 Rings is set to debut at #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart dated, February 2, 2019. This will be Ariana Grande's second number one song on the chart. Her other number-one song: Thank U, Next led the chart for 7 weeks back in late 2018 and early 2019. This will also be the second number one single off her fifth studio album titled, thank u, next. The album is expected to be released on February 8, 2019.  

where are you getting these numbers

Just added the 55.2 million on-demand streams (HDD); 27.2M U.S. YT streams = 82.4 million streams
Sales and radio numbers both come from Kworb.

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Jan 26, 2019 15:31:21 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

J. Cole with 3.8m on Spotify yesterday. Top 10 debut coming?

Naw, bottom 30 debut followed by a jump to the top ten

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Jan 27, 2019 1:47:21 GMT -5 edward said:

7 Rings and Thank u,next both debuted on UK,US,AU,CA no.1(I never saw another one do this.), and she keeps breaking female streaming records. She performs unbelievable good on AM, spotify,and broke the youtube record with tun music video. But it seems like you guys consider it nothing near massive. Why?

We all consider the era massive just not 21/Loud/Tennage Dream/1989 eras massive. It's definitely gonna be one the highlights of the decade for a female artist however  :)

[Enigma.]

Damn why can't people discuss these things in either in Your Opinion Please forum or Artist forum (there's a thread for Ariana like for most artists on charts). This is ridiculous. No one asked for the Rihanna comparisons here.

[kierz7]

Jan 26, 2019 22:13:39 GMT -5 Glove Slap said:

Ariana is somewhere below where Rihanna was during Loud, but higher than during GGGB.

Still well below Katy's peak, let alone Gaga's and Taylor's (the latter is still well above her too).

“GGGB” was a far bigger era than “LOUD”, objectively speaking.

Aside from its grand commercial success, the album/era produced defining cultural moments. Moreover, “Umbrella” is still a bigger hit and is more iconic than anything Grande has released.

[tommy1860]

Jan 27, 2019 1:59:11 GMT -5 kimberly said:

Jan 27, 2019 1:34:56 GMT -5 aussie1 said:

I feel like Ariana is on a similar route Rihanna was on during "Loud", but the singles just don't feel as big as the loud singles, even though they probably are. I mean regardless it's to early to even tell. Thank u, next has been out for like 10 weeks? 7 rings a week. Not to mention the album isn't even out. Lets just wait and see how this era compares to past eras in a couple of months.

Historically, Ariana's singles haven't shown great longevity, so I agree that we need to wait and see, hence the "idk how much longer she will keep this up" in my original post. BUT she is THE pop girl & she has been giving hit after hit since NTLTC debuted more than 9 months ago. She's joining a very elite group of artists with multiple #1 debuts, and she'll be tying Drake for shortest span between 2 #1 debuts (both 11 weeks, I believe).

I believe Mariah actually holds that record. Fantasy debuted at number 1 on 9/30/1995. It stayed number one for 8 weeks. Whitney was number one for a week and then One Sweet Day debuted at number 1 on 12/2/1995, so that would only be 9 weeks between them. 

[kierz7]

Jan 27, 2019 3:06:06 GMT -5 Codex said:

Jan 26, 2019 20:30:52 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

LMAO.

In what way, shape or form has she reached Rihanna’s “LOUD” era?

The “LOUD” era produced three collosal, consecutive number one singles, the same as Swift’s “1989” era, including several outstanding top ten singles not to mention that the former era lasted 10 months of promotional activity alone before Rihanna abandoned it and casually moved onto the “Talk That Talk” era.

•Fun fact: “LOUD” sold 300K less than “TD” WW even though the latter was the slightly bigger overall era: +6.6M vs +6.9M•

She isn’t on Rihanna (who also had the massive “GGGB” era prior to “LOUD”), Taylor Swift or peak Katy Perry’s level, commercially speaking and especially culturally speaking. If she gets a third number one single then we can have a conversation.

Right now, she’s on Ke$ha’s level during the “Animal/Cannibal” eras and that’s putting it lightly.

In the US, the three singles from LOUD barely went #1 for one week each, and they had bad longevity. She also wasn’t breaking any sales records at the time, like Ariana is doing with her current singles. It’s not just US, Ariana just broke streaming records in the UK as well, and is doing great globally in general.

NTLTC + TYN + 7 Rings = Only Girl + WMN + S&M

But then again, you can’t really combine the Sweetener/TYN eras, because then you’d have to combine the RR/Loud eras, which would give Rihanna RR/Hard/Rude Boy and even LTWYL. Ok, I take back what I said previously, but I still think she’s close to Rihannas peak at this point.

Once again, no.

Irrespective of whether or not they had “bad longevity”, the fact remains that she scored three consecutive number one singles that era - all of which were commercial behemoths, especially Globally.

•It was the “LOUD” era that CEMENTED Rihanna as the biggest singles act/hitmaker of the 21st century in the U.K/Continental Europe•.

The trinity of: “Only Girl”, “What’s My Name” and “S&M” stand at pure sales of +25M worldwide and that’s excluding the sales of “California King Bed”, “Man Down” and “Cheers”. Moreover, each of those singles were massive U.S radio number one hits and were actually competing against several other massive hits by various artists at the time also ala. Bruno Mars, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Ke$ha etc.

Now, if we were to bring in the sales of the singles and collective airplay from the “GGGB” era then we’d certainly have nothing left to discuss.

Grande is currently experiencing her first big Hot 100 chart peak after 6 years in the industry - Rihanna was already at 10 number ones by this time and was in the midst of her second singles peak. Taylor Swift also experienced her Hot 100 peak after being in the industry for over half a decade however her prior, gigantic album/Billboard 200 success (the “Fearless/Speak Now” eras) completely balances that out.

The “Thank You, Next” era could very well resemble peak eras by Rihanna, Taylor Swift and Katy Perry by the time it’s finished (in the context of the streaming era that is considering the shift in musical consumption) but we’ll have to wait and see.