Billboard Hot 100: 3/16/2019

[iHype.]

Mar 2, 2019 13:21:00 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Let’s not hype this too much yet. “Sucker” should be #1 in sales for the week but it’s on a fast decline. Its opening streaming day was great, too, but how it holds up remains to be seen. A top 10 debut is assured due to initial hype, but whether this turns into a legitimate hit is another matter.

It's sales were bound to collapse. It was selling 11x the #3. That is literally like a 'Hello' type lead. No way that was gonna sustain throughout the week and end with an astronomical number.


Hopefully the streams don't collapse. If it stays #1 on Apple Music & Spotify then that's great.

[Enigma.]

So you're saying that JONAS BROTHERS in top ten in 2019 isn't anything to hype about? It is and very much so! No matter if they chart at #3 or #5 or #7, that's HUUGE!

They have never reached higher than #5 in the first place.

[jtd Thee Stallion]

RIP Kworb radio updates.

[owenlovesmusic]

Lady Gaga at #1 this year, Jonas Brothers looking to debut top ten next week.. are we back in the 2000s?

[lazer]

I wonder what happened to the Kworb radio updates.

[ry4n]

Mar 2, 2019 14:20:59 GMT -5 lazer said:

I wonder what happened to the Kworb radio updates.

Mediabase told him to take them down

[lazer]

Mar 2, 2019 15:00:40 GMT -5 ry4n said:

Mar 2, 2019 14:20:59 GMT -5 lazer said:

I wonder what happened to the Kworb radio updates.

Mediabase told him to take them down

That sucks. How are we going to see the radio updates now?

[Naos]

Mar 2, 2019 15:06:35 GMT -5 lazer said:

Mar 2, 2019 15:00:40 GMT -5 ry4n said:

Mediabase told him to take them down

That sucks. How are we going to see the radio updates now?

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AllAccess is an option. Though I don't think they have daily, only weekly.

[Au$tin]

Mar 2, 2019 15:13:04 GMT -5 Naos said:

Mar 2, 2019 15:06:35 GMT -5 lazer said:

That sucks. How are we going to see the radio updates now?

AllAccess is an option. Though I don't think they have daily, only weekly.

AllAccess is where Kworb got all of his data from, actually. So they have everything Kworb had, just not presented like Kworb's. For example, you won't see the day-to-day change updates, but you can easily figure them out yourself if you saved the previous day's data. AllAccess doesn't have an overall AI chart, but one could be created based on what AllAccess provides. Kworb also kept an archive while AllAccess only shows the current day's stats. But as far as everything else, AllAccess has it.

It's still really devastating, though. The combo of Kworb + AllAccess was an extremely powerful tool for fans of US radio charts and to have half of it cut off is like the radio chart fan equivalent of learning to live with only one arm. You can still do everything you could before, it's just harder now.

[Naos]

Mar 2, 2019 15:19:07 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Mar 2, 2019 15:13:04 GMT -5 Naos said:

AllAccess is an option. Though I don't think they have daily, only weekly.

AllAccess is where Kworb got all of his data from, actually. So they have everything Kworb had, just not presented like Kworb's. For example, you won't see the day-to-day change updates, but you can easily figure them out yourself if you saved the previous day's data. AllAccess doesn't have an overall AI chart, but one could be created based on what AllAccess provides. Kworb also kept an archive while AllAccess only shows the current day's stats. But as far as everything else, AllAccess has it.

It's still really devastating, though. The combo of Kworb + AllAccess was an extremely powerful tool for fans of US radio charts and to have half of it cut off is like the radio chart fan equivalent of learning to live with only one arm. You can still do everything you could before, it's just harder now.

When I have an AllAccess account and doesn't even know how it works, haha. I mainly used it to check adds, and not the charts. Yeah, it's quite unfortunate. 

[kierz7]

An album containing unreleased songs/demos that Rihanna recorded (largely from the 2000's) has been released and it's currently at #60 on WW iTunes and charting in multiple countries across Asia, Europe etc.

LMFAO!

It's completely fan-made also, and is starting to trend on Twitter. Apparently people are trying to contact FentyxCorp and RocNation to have them remove it.

I mean... The SLAYAGE once she releases an actual album though.

[thabb]

who says mediabase told him to take it down? lol

[Au$tin]

Mar 2, 2019 19:13:05 GMT -5 thabb said:

who says mediabase told him to take it down? lol

Kworb himself said that.

[Mauricio]

It might be because of the weekend, but it looks like the jonas brothers' video isn's slowing down. It got the same amount of views as it did yesterday.

[Choco]

Great start for the Jonas Brothers. Especially since the two that still had music careers flopped recently.

DNCE is stuck in one hit wonderland, and Nick bombed with several singles in a row. Very impressive comeback.

[Enigma.]

+ 5.1M streams for Sucker globally on Spotify. Should still be #1 in the US. Very interesting.

[Deleted]

Mar 2, 2019 15:00:40 GMT -5 ry4n said:

Mar 2, 2019 14:20:59 GMT -5 lazer said:

I wonder what happened to the Kworb radio updates.

Mediabase told him to take them down

Omfg, right in the middle of High Hopes' very close battle to break the record
They gotta be doing it on purpose
Is the rest of kworb in jeopardy too?

If Mediabase likes to take stuff down, it should find a reason to take Billboard website down right now, Shallow is a sucker to hit #1 tomorrow
And then they put the website back on after the charts would look better to me

[thabb]

Mar 2, 2019 19:20:45 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Mar 2, 2019 19:13:05 GMT -5 thabb said:

who says mediabase told him to take it down? lol

Kworb himself said that.

oh. i didn't see that on his twitter and i havent seen him post on atrl in a while

[Gary]

Not surprised. Actually surprised this didn’t happen sooner.

[Deleted]

2.5 days in the tracking week, Sucker still has about 8.5 times lead on iTunes over the #10 song (which's at 0.1199), that's insane!!!

Compared to some of the biggest first week sellers of the decade:
God's Plan had 7 times lead over the #10 song on iTunes after 2.5 days of release (worth noticing that God's Plan was released in the middle of Saturday)

Shape of You had about 7 times lead over the #10 song as well after 2.5 days of release (#10 song was at 0.14-0.16)

Despite not released on on-demand streaming platforms, Shake It Off "only" had the #10 song at 0.13-0.14 level on iTunes on its third day (about 7 times lead as well)

Even the craziest first-week powerhouse in recent memory Look What You Made Me Do "only" had the #10 song at 0.11-0.12 level after 2.5 days of release and big red updates on iTunes pop bars (similar to Sucker's performance so far).




You know what that means, Jonas Brothers is basically at Taylor Swift-level in first week sales! Music industry's secret pop scene's getting crazy these years

[Enigma.]

Didn't Shallow do better than that just last week? I mean Sucker is a hit but let's not pretend it opens with as big numbers as LWYMMD.

[Deleted]

Mar 3, 2019 12:38:36 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Didn't Shallow do better than that just last week? I mean Sucker is a hit but let's not pretend it opens with as big numbers as LWYMMD.

But Sucker's performance on iTunes so far (8.5 times lead over the #10 song on the third day) is bigger than the third day of all the other Taylor's lead singles', and all the Katy/Rihanna/Bruno/Ed/Justin/Drake's lead singles', ever. If you don't believe me, check the iTunes popularity bar history on kworb.

[Keelzit]

I'm very surprised by the success of JoBros as well but at the same time someone had to replace M5 after their alleged cancellation post-SB. It also doesn't hurt that the song is actually good + nostalgia/curiosity driving people to check it out.

[slw84]

Mar 2, 2019 15:22:45 GMT -5 Naos said:

Mar 2, 2019 15:19:07 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

AllAccess is where AllAccess doesn't have an overall AI chart, but one could be created based on what AllAccess provides. Kworb also kept an archive while AllAccess only shows the current day's stats. But as far as everything else, AllAccess has it.


It's still really devastating, though. The combo of Kworb + AllAccess was an extremely powerful tool for fans of US radio charts and to have half of it cut off is like the radio chart fan equivalent of learning to live with only one arm. You can still do everything you could before, it's just harder now.

When I have an AllAccess account and doesn't even know how it works, haha. I mainly used it to check adds, and not the charts. Yeah, it's quite unfortunate. 

Yeah maybe a dedicated poster could monitor it daily and get the slinsnand bullets difference but I’m sure stans of artists will find one to do it just for their faves song(s)

Mar 3, 2019 9:01:29 GMT -5 Gary said:

Not surprised. Actually surprised this didn’t happen sooner.

About Jonas brothers or about the industry allowing urban music to dominate for so long before pushing another genre to be the new wave?

Mar 3, 2019 12:21:31 GMT -5 @avont said:

You know what that means, Jonas Brothers is basically at Taylor Swift-level in first week sales! Music industry's secret pop scene's getting crazy these years

Ready for a new pop wave after 2015-2018 urban domination.
They let it happen for roughly the same time as last decade 2003-2006
Has it always been the case that pop takes over at the end and start if a decade and mid decade its urban or rock or anti pop whatever
Pop dominates late 80s early 90s, urban takes over 1993-1996 pop dominates late 90s early 00s urban takes over 2003-2006 late 00s there’s a pop resurgence and edm keeps pop cycle going longer as an extension and dies out mid 2010 for which urban takes over and now we might be headed in a pop phase again.

[brady47]

Ah. The daily radio updates were exciting, like when "No Tears Left to Cry" had a day at #1, but was only #4 on the week end.

I wanted to see if "Without Me" ever ended up passing "High Hopes"

[Kris]

Mar 3, 2019 14:53:00 GMT -5 brady47 said:

Ah. The daily radio updates were exciting, like when "No Tears Left to Cry" had a day at #1, but was only #4 on the week end.

I wanted to see if "Without Me" ever ended up passing "High Hopes"

It did. WM is 160M, HH 156M

[chartfreak]

Mar 3, 2019 12:38:36 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Didn't Shallow do better than that just last week? I mean Sucker is a hit but let's not pretend it opens with as big numbers as LWYMMD.

Yeah but that happened on the 4th day of the tracking week if I'm not mistaken and I think they are just comparing debuts.

[deepston]

Mar 3, 2019 13:05:57 GMT -5 @avont said:

Mar 3, 2019 12:38:36 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Didn't Shallow do better than that just last week? I mean Sucker is a hit but let's not pretend it opens with as big numbers as LWYMMD.

But Sucker's performance on iTunes so far (8.5 times lead over the #10 song on the third day) is bigger than the third day of all the other Taylor's lead singles', and all the Katy/Rihanna/Bruno/Ed/Justin/Drake's lead singles', ever. If you don't believe me, check the iTunes popularity bar history on kworb.

The difference is that in the past a smaller difference meant a 300k gap. I'd be very surprised if they cross 80k.

7 rings is closing the gap on Spotify US and Globally it remains unchallenged. It doesn't even make sense to compare LWYMMD with Sucker.

[fhas]

Mar 3, 2019 13:05:57 GMT -5 @avont said:

Mar 3, 2019 12:38:36 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Didn't Shallow do better than that just last week? I mean Sucker is a hit but let's not pretend it opens with as big numbers as LWYMMD.

But Sucker's performance on iTunes so far (8.5 times lead over the #10 song on the third day) is bigger than the third day of all the other Taylor's lead singles', and all the Katy/Rihanna/Bruno/Ed/Justin/Drake's lead singles', ever. If you don't believe me, check the iTunes popularity bar history on kworb.

The #10 song on iTunes is selling 1.7k-2k per day. When Taylor/Ed/Drake/JB were #1 the top 10 was much stronger than it is now.

[kimberly]

Mar 3, 2019 16:31:07 GMT -5 deepston said:

Mar 3, 2019 13:05:57 GMT -5 @avont said:

But Sucker's performance on iTunes so far (8.5 times lead over the #10 song on the third day) is bigger than the third day of all the other Taylor's lead singles', and all the Katy/Rihanna/Bruno/Ed/Justin/Drake's lead singles', ever. If you don't believe me, check the iTunes popularity bar history on kworb.

The difference is that in the past a smaller difference meant a 300k gap. I'd be very surprised if they cross 80k.

7 rings is closing the gap on Spotify US and Globally it remains unchallenged. It doesn't even make sense to compare LWYMMD with Sucker.

Speaking of LWYMMD, Getaway Car is rumored to be the new single as it was added to pop stations, but something looks fishy about the whole situation. I highly doubt Taylor would do another single off a dead album with a tour movie out even.