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Post by Choco on Jun 19, 2019 20:43:25 GMT -5
Great for Taylor. OK for Drake.
Really hope OTR craters like a meme song. I want to see someone else at #1 already. Probably not gonna be Billie, but Khalid could do it.
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Post by mzumii on Jun 19, 2019 21:23:22 GMT -5
IMO, Post is the most impressive artist in this decade Bruno, Ariana, Adele, Drake, etc? His run is impressive so far, but it’s only been 2 years. Even Ke$ha was doing similar to this from Right Round to Timber. I mean Post already has 2 Diamond singles in 2 years in the game. Considering that and his unprecedented longevity I'd say he'd be a fair pick for most impressive artist this decade. But my pick would probably be Bruno Mars. |
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Post by lazer on Jun 20, 2019 1:22:47 GMT -5
Is anyone bothered by the fact that Sunflower is still in the top ten?
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 20, 2019 1:24:32 GMT -5
#7 debut for Drake after being #1 song on Rap Caviar among others, interesting.. Although Simm might underestimate the streams on Apple Music.
If he does, NG might beat Sunflower and the latter drop out of top ten.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 20, 2019 1:54:53 GMT -5
#7 debut for Drake after being #1 song on Rap Caviar among others, interesting.. Although Simm might underestimate the streams on Apple Music. If he does, NG might beat Sunflower and the latter drop out of top ten. What does your ''interesting'' comment mean? That it's underwhelming? |
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 20, 2019 1:56:54 GMT -5
Sort of  But it has got decent support too, as opposed to be "just a song out there" as people have also said. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 20, 2019 2:15:02 GMT -5
Sort of But it has got decent support too, as opposed to be "just a song out there" as people have also said. You seem to have really high expectations for anything Drake puts out. The truth of the matter is that Drake fans always sorta know which songs to throw their full support behind and the songs to not do that for. Upon first listen, it's clear to anyone who has been listening to Drake for the past 5 years that Omerta and Money in the Grave are both loosies - the same way Signs and Summer Sixteen were loosies. They're just songs he had in the bag that he wanted out there. The thing with being an artist who is as huge as he is is that any/everything you do is MEANT to be a big deal. Critics don't care. They'll judge a mixtape and a playlist you made for fun the same way they'll judge your albums. There's a clear difference when Drake is shooting for a legit lead single and when he isn't. You've been following his music for a while now so you know that. These songs aren't that. He's not even trying on them. He's just going through the motions. Of course, Republic is gonna wanna take advantage of anything he puts out so they'll pick the song out of the both of them they feel has the most potential to stick with fans and they'll give it playlist support and try it out on radio. Still, these aren't songs Drake will shoot videos for or even necessarily perform. They're just songs he wanted out. I feel like when it comes to stuff like that, you've gotta set REALISTIC expectations. For instance, my expectations for I Don't Care were much higher than my expectations for the next single Ed put out because I Don't Care featured Bieber, was pushed like crazy on radio and with bundles and got several videos. It was clear the label/Ed wanted it to be a smash lead single. I'm not entirely sure, but I doubt the second single got the same treatment. You really can't compare that with the songs Drake just put out and getting Spotify playlist placements isn't a big deal anymore when far less successful artists get that treatment from their labels. You just always seem like you expect anything Drake drops to shatter first day and first week records and that just isn't realistic. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 20, 2019 2:20:15 GMT -5
Fair enough, but it's just not me. This whole forum is full of posts where people are saying things like "only Drake can stop OTR" or "wait until Drake drops a new song" and "OTR will be number one until Drake or Rihanna release a single".. And now he has released SOMETHING and nothing has changed in top 3 on Hot 100.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 20, 2019 2:36:43 GMT -5
Fair enough, but it's just not me. This whole forum is full of posts where people are saying things like "only Drake can stop OTR" or "wait until Drake drops a new song" and "OTR will be number one until Drake or Rihanna release a single".. And now he has released SOMETHING and nothing has changed in top 3 on Hot 100. Okay, but they only said that because they assumed he'd drop lead single material, not a loosie. Can you compare the hit potential of a song like In My Feelings to a song like Is There More? Both songs won't perform the same way. One is catchier, has better production and works better on radio, the other doesn't. You just can't say ''well Drake dropped a song where he just raps for 3 straight minutes with no memorable hook or breakdowns'' and you expect that to be a super smash single. That's not realistic and it's unfair. I'd share your perspective if he dropped a lead single for a new album era and it underperformed. That isn't what is happening here. Money in the Grave will debut in the top 10 and Omerta will debut in the top 40. ALSO, these songs were released a day and 3 hours into the tracking week. Same thing happened with No Guidance. They're still performing and having great chart placements regardless. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 20, 2019 2:41:20 GMT -5
Lastly, I feel like Drake is really the only one who gets these unrealistic expectations placed on him. For someone who drops new music as frequently as he does, it's a bit unfair to me. Taylor Swift, Bruno Mars, Ed Sheeran, Adele, Rihanna, none of them drop as frequently as Drake does and Drake still manages to perform just as well/better than some of them. Part of what allows them to perform so well is the fact that they don't drop new music as frequently as Drake does so when they do, it's an event and something to look forward to. Drake's solo/lead singles are meant to SMASH. His features are meant to SMASH just as much. That's the expectation people have, something they don't have for the other artists I mentioned. Just take into account all the music Drake has dropped since 2015. Let's just all try to be realistic with some of these expectations, please.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 20, 2019 6:21:33 GMT -5
I suppose if people didn’t claim he’s the only one ever who could end a monster hit’s number one run every time there’s a monster hit at number one, there wouldn’t be so much surprise every time he...doesn’t do that.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 20, 2019 7:08:35 GMT -5
I suppose if people didn’t claim he’s the only one ever who could end a monster hit’s number one run every time there’s a monster hit at number one, there wouldn’t be so much surprise every time he...doesn’t do that. ''everytime''? I don't remember anyone saying he could end a monster hit's run last year and definitely didn't hear that in 2017 and 2016. Literally, the ONLY song people have said that for is OTR, so, what exactly do you mean by ''everytime''? |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 20, 2019 7:26:28 GMT -5
His name has been dropped alongside Adele as the ones who could have monster number ones out of the gate. Suddenly he’s not the force people have been saying he is? I don’t get it.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 20, 2019 7:37:15 GMT -5
His name has been dropped alongside Adele as the ones who could have monster number ones out of the gate. Suddenly he’s not the force people have been saying he is? I don’t get it. Nope. He still is. I guess I just find it funny that people expected any one of the two songs he dropped to be a decade-defining smash single. None of them have that kind of hit-potential and they're both obviously loosies. Songs that were only released because his hometown NBA team won the NBA championship. They lose and we don't get those songs. That's how inconsequential they are. We can revisit this discussion when he drops a legit lead single. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 20, 2019 7:37:44 GMT -5
I suggest enjoying the song called 'Old Town Road' instead of spending the entire 12 weeks plotting its demise.
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Post by Gary on Jun 20, 2019 7:39:39 GMT -5
His name has been dropped alongside Adele as the ones who could have monster number ones out of the gate. Suddenly he’s not the force people have been saying he is? I don’t get it. Nope. He still is. I guess I just find it funny that people expected any one of the two songs he dropped to be a decade-defining smash single. None of them have that kind of hit-potential and they're both obviously loosies. Songs that were only released because his hometown NBA team won the NBA championship. They lose and we don't get those songs. That's how inconsequential they are. We can revisit this discussion when he drops a legit lead single. It's a lead single, it has Drake's name on it.
If it debuted at #1 and knocked down Old Town Road, then would it be called "legit"?
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 20, 2019 7:42:24 GMT -5
I suggest enjoying the song called 'Old Town Road' instead of spending the entire 12 weeks plotting its demise. I wouldn't say people were plotting it's demise as much as people were eager and ready for a new song to take it's spot. At the beginning of the year when we'd get a new #1 every other week, no one complained and some people said it was better than last year when Drake commanded the #1 spot for 29 weeks of the 52 weeks available. Personally, I don't mind OTR's success. I don't think Lil Nas X will ever score a hit that huge ever again so I'm here for him riding on it for as long as he possibly can. I would like it to get replaced with another song, but obviously no other song has been able to do that yet. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 20, 2019 7:47:59 GMT -5
Nope. He still is. I guess I just find it funny that people expected any one of the two songs he dropped to be a decade-defining smash single. None of them have that kind of hit-potential and they're both obviously loosies. Songs that were only released because his hometown NBA team won the NBA championship. They lose and we don't get those songs. That's how inconsequential they are. We can revisit this discussion when he drops a legit lead single. It's a lead single, it has Drake's name on it.
If it debuted at #1 and knocked down Old Town Road, then would it be called "legit"?
It's only legit if he declares it a lead single. You say it's a lead single, but I have to ask, a lead single off what project? If this song ends up on his next album then we can call it a lead single. Until then, it isn't. He's the lead ARTIST on both songs, but neither songs are lead SINGLES. There's such a thing called loosies (songs artists drop for the sake of it). Drake has TONS of those and he's always dropped songs like that year after year. That's the case for both of the songs he dropped. We just happen to live in a time now when streams count and everything charts. Back then, most of his loosies didn't chart and weren't given the full ''single'' treatments like music videos/performances, etc. They also never ended up on any official albums. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 20, 2019 10:15:35 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/06/20
1(=) Khalid - Talk 146.68(+1.31)
2(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 145.05(+1.64)
3(=) Lil Nas X - Old Town Road (feat. Billy Ray Cyrus) [Remix] 131.73(-1.65)
4(=) Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger 117.87(-0.47)
5(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 117.77(+0.95)
6(=) Post Malone - Wow. 109.15(-0.90)
7(=) Taylor Swift - ME! (feat. Brendon Urie of Panic! At The Disco) 91.73(-2.97)
8(=) Ava Max - Sweet but Psycho 89.67(-1.77)
9(=) Shawn Mendes - If I Can't Have You 85.49(+1.05)
10(=) Panic! At the Disco - Hey Look Ma, I Made It 76.57(+1.22)
11(+1) Billie Eilish - bad guy 72.23(+1.29) 15(=) Thomas Rhett - Look What God Gave Her 60.76(+1.34) 24(+2) Katy Perry - Never Really Over 49.59(+0.84) 26(+3) DaBaby - Suge 48.54(+1.67) 73(+15) Taylor Swift - You Need To Calm Down 26.70(+4.54)
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Post by iHype. on Jun 20, 2019 11:18:06 GMT -5
I'm convinced some of y'all don't even follow charts lol. Because clearly if you did you would be aware he does one-off drops not tied to albums almost yearly. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signs_(Drake_song)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_to_100_/_The_Catch_Upen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Hand_(song)Fake Love was dropped right on its own after the Views era in 2016, and reached #10 in its first full week. Signs was dropped right on its own after More Life in 2017, and peaked #36. (I remember people claiming because this that his hype died down and 2018 wouldn't be as big as 2016 for him lol) God's Plan is the only time he's ever had a song truly blast off right out the gate that was not during album release. God's Plan was a planned out release though, whereas these were dropped online due to a Championship win lol. And hell no, Adele would not be able to release a song out of the blue with no radio push/music video/prior hype and debut #1 lol. So not even sure why she was named as some type of benchmark to compare to (Hello had a radio deal, music video during premiere, and TV commercials announcing her return weeks prior) The mistake you guys will always ignorantly make is trying to think Hip-Hop artists conduct their eras in similar manner to Pop artists. They don't do these heavily calculcated eras where they plan everything months in advance and have a direct agenda. It will always mostly be throwing things out into the air and going with the flow. See: Cardi dropping 3 singles since October with no album announcement, Post Malone having two songs top 10 this entire year and not having any album announcement in sight. |
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Post by Choco on Jun 20, 2019 12:01:52 GMT -5
The two Drake tracks are pretty unremarkable. The fact that they're charting well at all should be a testament to his powers.
He'll probably move on quickly if neither catches on. (See also: "Summer Sixteen", "Diplomatic Immunity").
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Post by tekkenguy on Jun 20, 2019 12:05:59 GMT -5
OTR can still be stopped by a song that come out of nowhere, like See You Again.
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Post by woods on Jun 20, 2019 12:19:48 GMT -5
New song from Lil Nas X is out.
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Post by kacpi on Jun 20, 2019 12:27:14 GMT -5
New song from Lil Nas X is out. And it's a freaking bop! |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 20, 2019 12:29:32 GMT -5
OTR remix has less than 1M streams on Spotify!
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Post by MoD on Jun 20, 2019 12:41:26 GMT -5
Hope it doesn't hit 15 weeks exactly lol. I think Boyz II Men having a single with the most weeks #1 (OSD 16 weeks), second most weeks #1 (I'll Make Love to You 14 weeks), and third weeks most #1 (End of the Road 13 weeks) is so randomly awesome. Same with Mariah having a single with the most weeks #1 (OSD 16 weeks), and second most weeks #1 (We Belong Together 14 weeks). A 15-weeker would mess all that up. Does anyone care about dat s**t? |
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Post by dovahduck on Jun 20, 2019 12:41:47 GMT -5
New song from Lil Nas X is out. Yeah, "Panini" is what's it called. The production is quite nice, I wonder how much promotion it will recieve. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 20, 2019 12:42:54 GMT -5
OTR can still be stopped by a song that come out of nowhere, like See You Again.
New song from Lil Nas X is out.
Hmm....maybe??? LOL
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Post by kacpi on Jun 20, 2019 12:47:01 GMT -5
OTR can still be stopped by a song that come out of nowhere, like See You Again. New song from Lil Nas X is out. Hmm....maybe??? LOL Imagine Panini reaching #1 before OTR breaks the record... |
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 20, 2019 13:46:59 GMT -5
Amazing that Truth Hurts is #4 on Spotify and the only song in top ten that increased plays compared to yesterday. SMASH!
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