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Post by NeRD on Sept 9, 2019 10:49:31 GMT -5
forgot this even existed. she needs to come harder than this. A Taylor tea.
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Post by Choco on Sept 9, 2019 11:49:38 GMT -5
it isn't love it isn't hate it's just indifference.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 10, 2019 6:16:27 GMT -5
POP: 37 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1332 1136 196 2.551
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HOT AC: 45 44 KATY PERRY Small Talk 195 140 55 0.325
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Post by rosemoor on Sept 10, 2019 10:54:55 GMT -5
she's still promoting this on her insta. I guess they are not moving on to the next one yet.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 10, 2019 11:46:28 GMT -5
#Gains
Tbh, I’m not sure what Capitol’s plan is with this but even if this flops, I don’t see it hurting Katy. It’s not a risky song at all and a lot of people don’t even know this song exists (unlike BA and SS which most people knew about and were a bit more jarring). I’m not too worried, especially when I know they have another single w/ video waiting to be released. Katy and Capitol just need to work if they want that hit.
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Post by divasummer on Sept 10, 2019 12:26:46 GMT -5
I like this song, own it and have it on my playlist I listen to most but I always push it down. This hopefully isn't the song they want to kick start a full project or even an EP with. It's just there... When it comes on I think "oh I forgot about this" but then I forget about it again and don't go looking for it again.. (if that makes any sense)
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 11, 2019 6:15:57 GMT -5
POP: 36 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1354 1182 172 2.629
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 12, 2019 6:29:46 GMT -5
POP: 36 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1361 1199 162 2.709
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 12, 2019 8:31:14 GMT -5
What a smash, lol.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Sept 12, 2019 15:13:53 GMT -5
Smash Talk.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 15:17:24 GMT -5
Talk Small
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Post by Active Aggressive on Sept 12, 2019 15:19:46 GMT -5
FLOP. I'm in Derry, I can pick up JYY and the Boston stations. Omg the town from IT LOL are you surprised?
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Post by B. army on Sept 12, 2019 22:53:43 GMT -5
This song never made sense as a followup to NEo. NRO and Con Calma Remix really made me dive back into KP land even 365. Charlie is 2017 idk what she was thinking collaborating with him when it’s nearly 2020 and in this age of music that’s a decade. NRO should’ve been pushed more and a decent second single with album release would’ve helped her.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 12, 2019 23:43:04 GMT -5
What they should’ve done was ignore the callouts, discount the single, and focus on iTunes and streaming, where it was always doing very well. It was cut way too short cuz of the callouts.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 12, 2019 23:51:49 GMT -5
They literally did a huge radio push just so NRO could get top 10 on pop, it was #1 on both New Music Friday and Today's Top Hits, and digital sales are dead, where were y'all? Her team killed promo for NRO. The only thing it was missing was a televised performance, which is basically impossible over the summer. Any more pushing would have been all for naught anyway. It literally did all it could do. An extra performance would have just boosted its sales for a week and that's it. A whole extra, what, 6k in sales? This is even getting quite a lot of push behind it radio wise and on social media. Katy's team is still one of the best in the business IMO. Katy just isn't cool or hip anymore, so she's going to struggle a lot more, and this track is just not it. Charlie is 2017 idk what she was thinking collaborating with him when it’s nearly 2020 and in this age of music that’s a decade. Charlie's last co-write performed similarly to "Never Really Over" here, though. And the one before that, while a flop here stateside, was still a sizeable hit overseas.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 13, 2019 0:37:18 GMT -5
No promotion- No hit
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 13, 2019 6:34:13 GMT -5
Just as well she's saving her energy and not promoting a dud. Nobody's checking for this. :sip2:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 6:39:45 GMT -5
Bon Appetit Small Talk!
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Post by Choco on Sept 13, 2019 10:50:17 GMT -5
*crickets*
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Post by Maximillian on Sept 13, 2019 11:54:25 GMT -5
No public interest - no hit.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Sept 13, 2019 14:24:59 GMT -5
It's that simple. To me, it just seemed to be something to keep her out there until they get ready to do thier rollout or w/e. She's been quiet.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 13, 2019 14:30:12 GMT -5
It's that simple. To me, it just seemed to be something to keep her out there until they get ready to do thier rollout or w/e. She's been quiet. If she did more promotion for NRO it could have been a top 5 hit. Some Katy stans are convinced that Harleys in Hawaii is gonna be a smash hit. Wont happen after a flop single.
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Post by Okay on Sept 13, 2019 14:45:45 GMT -5
NRO would've been a smash if it that chorus had been thrown out.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Sept 13, 2019 15:03:46 GMT -5
It's that simple. To me, it just seemed to be something to keep her out there until they get ready to do thier rollout or w/e. She's been quiet. If she did more promotion for NRO it could have been a top 5 hit. Some Katy stans are convinced that Harleys in Hawaii is gonna be a smash hit. Wont happen after a flop single. I don't want to predict anything. Its better to take it at face value imo.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 13, 2019 22:19:20 GMT -5
It's that simple. To me, it just seemed to be something to keep her out there until they get ready to do thier rollout or w/e. She's been quiet. Well she has been promoting the behind the scenes of the video stuff on IG for a while now. Nothing major tho. The video seems a little too expensive for the song to just be a placeholder, unless she paid for it, of course.
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Post by B. army on Sept 13, 2019 23:20:09 GMT -5
They literally did a huge radio push just so NRO could get top 10 on pop, it was #1 on both New Music Friday and Today's Top Hits, and digital sales are dead, where were y'all? Her team killed promo for NRO. The only thing it was missing was a televised performance, which is basically impossible over the summer. Any more pushing would have been all for naught anyway. It literally did all it could do. An extra performance would have just boosted its sales for a week and that's it. A whole extra, what, 6k in sales? This is even getting quite a lot of push behind it radio wise and on social media. Katy's team is still one of the best in the business IMO. Katy just isn't cool or hip anymore, so she's going to struggle a lot more, and this track is just not it. Charlie is 2017 idk what she was thinking collaborating with him when it’s nearly 2020 and in this age of music that’s a decade. Charlie's last co-write performed similarly to "Never Really Over" here, though. And the one before that, while a flop here stateside, was still a sizeable hit overseas. Wow I wasn’t aware he co-wrote Ava Max love that song...you have a point KP is I’m her mid 30’s so radio doesn’t really touch that age in the pop world.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 14, 2019 7:39:01 GMT -5
POP: 36 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1354 1255 99 2.747
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Sept 14, 2019 8:04:27 GMT -5
'Never Really Over' seemed like a solid single from the first listen. This just isn't it.
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Post by Choco on Sept 14, 2019 9:18:14 GMT -5
I don't see what else they could have done for NRO.
As for this, the no promo thing is not a decent excuse when Zara Larsson just entered top 25 with a song most people don't even know exists.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 22:58:38 GMT -5
I wish they could just scrap this and release Harleys but... If I had to make a guess, since Small Talk came out slightly over two months after Never Really Over, I would guess that they would follow the same time interval for the next release, meaning that Harleys in Hawaii would probably be released mid-October, so... I don’t have my hopes up for them releasing it any sooner lol.
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