Billboard Hot 100: 8/3/19

[king_billboard_100]

Jul 23, 2019 20:55:47 GMT -5 garrettlen said:

Jul 23, 2019 8:49:20 GMT -5 king_billboard_100 said:

So who's gonna dethrone OTR????

Nobody next week.  OTR is getting 17th weeks at #1.

it will be ridiculous if OTR will stay 20 weeks atop.
There is no way there is no one with a good song right now that can be popular enough.

[king_billboard_100]

Jul 23, 2019 13:40:46 GMT -5 @drakeisskinny said:

Jul 23, 2019 8:49:20 GMT -5 king_billboard_100 said:

So who's gonna dethrone OTR????

Lizzo

😂😂😂😂😂😂 maybe no.2

[Gary]

It may very well be.

The Bad Guy remix didn't work, the third Taylor Swift single is already starting to decline

So until an out of the box smash gets released, we are all gonna take our horse to the old town road

[lazer]

I thought this generation will be quick to declare that a current meme is “dead” days after and move on to the next one, but it seems that they are not letting go of OTR.

[David]

LOL, what a joke....

[twelvevinylrecords]

Hey, don’t hate the player, hate the game. This isn’t Lil Nas X’s fault, honestly if I was in his shoes I’d do the exact same thing. Billboards system for counting songs is broken and hopefully after this they make a rule about remixes.

[king_billboard_100]

Why nobody talks about "lalala" by y2k & bbno$?
Maybe with a good music video they can manage to hit top 10? (LOL)

[moonlite]

Jul 25, 2019 9:56:38 GMT -5 lazer said:

I thought this generation will be quick to declare that a current meme is “dead” days after and move on to the next one, but it seems that they are not letting go of OTR.

thats because OTR isn’t a meme song anymore

[kierz7]

I can’t wait for Rihanna x Adele to release their long awaited duet next Friday.

“Hello From The Other Side Where We Found Love”.

I predict 21 weeks at #1 and 40 weeks in the top ten.

WHEW!

[HolidayGuy]

For the all-time charts, Billboard's never discussed its exact formula, other than saying it's an inverse points system, and that certain eras are weighted differently. Some eras are just five years, and even those are weighted differently from the five or so years before or after it (I had inquired about it a few years back).

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/07/25

1(=) Khalid - Talk 174.57(+0.03)
2(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 156.71(+0.74)
3(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 140.69(-1.51)
4(=) Billie Eilish - bad guy 119.78(+1.09)
5(=) Shawn Mendes - If I Can't Have You 118.12(-0.06)
6(=) Panic! At the Disco - Hey Look Ma, I Made It 114.46(+0.95)
7(=) Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger 94.56(-0.62)
8(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 92.52(+2.20)
9(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Señorita 77.20(+2.60)
10(=) Post Malone - Wow. 68.45(-1.27)

12(=) Dan + Shay - Speechless 65.69(+0.74)

22(+2) Maren Morris - GIRL 54.38(+1.14)

28(+2) Post Malone - Goodbyes (feat. Young Thug) 48.90(+1.58)

30(-1) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 48.66(+1.16)

55(+4) Young Thug - The London (feat. J. Cole & Travis Scott) 30.23(+1.03)

77(+5) Jonas Brothers - Only Human 23.46( +0.83)

[jenglisbe]

Jul 25, 2019 10:09:27 GMT -5 twelvevinylrecords said:

Hey, don’t hate the player, hate the game. This isn’t Lil Nas X’s fault, honestly if I was in his shoes I’d do the exact same thing. Billboards system for counting songs is broken and hopefully after this they make a rule about remixes.

They do the same stuff to get movies to certain markers and records. Look at the various sing along versions, extra long versions, etc of film re-releases (not to mention whatever studio trickery was done to get A Wrinkle in Time past $100 million). It's all the same thing.

[KeepDeanWeird]

It’s odd to release the BTS mix when 17 was not going to be close. Look for that hyper-supportive (aka psychotic) fan base to claim/demand credit for the new record.

And you can’t game Billboard for 17 weeks at #1 and by a significantly wide margin almost every week. OTR is popular and that’s what Billboard measures. It’s not called Billboard’s ‘Best 100’ or ‘Quality 100.’ It’s rare that popular and good are synonymous.

I think it’s admirable that this young artist how put all this marketing savvy to continue to expand the reach of his song. He could’ve easily just sat back and collected

[badrobot]

There was talk among fans in the mid-90s, when some big artists were offering crazy discounts on singles, to encourage something similar to the movie box office charts where songs were ranked by revenue. I wonder if that's just technically infeasible given how complex some of the formulas are for determining streaming revenue.

But I'd be very curious to see the impact of that if it were possible, as I don't know how much the label makes when songs are used in fan videos vs official videos -- I'm not sure if there actually is a difference though?

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jul 25, 2019 8:12:02 GMT -5 rfucom said:

Jul 25, 2019 8:09:48 GMT -5 kacpi said:

Call him what you want but he's definitely not a clown when it comes to the charts.

He's clowning the charts. Billboard better make a rule. Im agree with user memes not be counted on YT official numbers.

Why does there need to be a rule? A remix is still the same song. It’s when it’s not identifiable that there needs to be a rule. If remixes were counted separately, would that include radio edits? Shortened versions of songs? Radio mixes that simply increase or decrease certain instruments? If they were separated, Old Town Road would probably be in the top 10 multiple times and that’s ridiculous. Simply put, the song is a phenomenon that won’t be overly common. People are responding to it and Billboard is tracking that. You can blame Billboard for how they measure certain aspects but to be pissy because an artist is jumping on his own bandwagon to extend the chart success of a song is a bit sad tbh. Clearly it’s resonating with people. If the suggestion is cut out how some people consume music, sure, but admit you’re okay with making the chart less accurate because you don’t like how successful one song is.

[Gary]

If this were <insert your favorite pop singer here> getting a 17th week at #1 with remixes and such would there be this much controversy?


It is almost a lock that the next 2 minute streaming hit that comes out and hits #1 will see a variety of remixes as well, at least in the short term. Basically others will likely try to replicate this.

Much like the mini latin-remix revival from 2 years ago when Despacito hit big

[jenglisbe]

Jul 25, 2019 11:24:04 GMT -5 Gary said:

If this were <insert your favorite pop singer here> getting a 17th week at #1 with remixes and such would there be this much controversy?

Yes, as there will always be someone complaining. It's also natural that when your favorite artists/song receives a benefit, it's going to bother you less than when others receive the same benefit. That's human nature.

[Naos]

Jul 25, 2019 11:24:04 GMT -5 Gary said:

If this were <insert your favorite pop singer here> getting a 17th week at #1 with remixes and such would there be this much controversy?

For me? Yeah, I'd still think it's dumb. Pretty ridiculous.

[WolfSpear]

People have been playing the charts for the longest time.

Congrats to him!
This is the streaming era, things will naturally become slower in time.

[lostinhavana]

Is there any word on a big release tonight?? There has to be a reason big artists like Taylor, Big Sean, Chainsmokers released early right??

[jenglisbe]

Jul 25, 2019 12:54:27 GMT -5 lostinhavana said:

Is there any word on a big release tonight?? There has to be a reason big artists like Taylor, Big Sean, Chainsmokers released early right??

Chainsmokers?

[lazer]

The Chainsmokers are over at this point.

[jayhawk1117]

Jul 25, 2019 13:27:35 GMT -5 lazer said:

The Chainsmokers are over at this point.

solid 40 million listeners a month though 🤷🏾‍♂️

[thegreatdivine]

New Rick Ross/Drake single dropping at midnight.

[magik]

"Clowning" the charts is nothing new, and some of your favorites benefited from some sort of tactic that made it what it was. It's only obvious now because there's social media. But Mariah and other artists were doing a lot to make certain records happen.

Forget the fact that OTR didn't need any of these remixes aside from the most popular one to beat the record since the points were already strong enough to keep #1. What rule should be made? If you say that each version of the song should be split, then that will lead to unnecessary chart entries that will cause other songs to go recurrent or not chart.

The kid is having fun with a moment that probably won't replicate itself, and his label wants that record. There's nothing with that.

[Gary]

Jul 25, 2019 13:38:11 GMT -5 magik said:

 What rule should be made?

How about capping the remix total at some number or establishing recurrent status rules for a song with too many remixes to punish an artist for being creative?

[lazer]

Jul 25, 2019 13:31:53 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Jul 25, 2019 13:27:35 GMT -5 lazer said:

The Chainsmokers are over at this point.

solid 40 million listeners a month though 🤷🏾‍♂️

Probably listening to their older stuff from 2016-2017.

[thegreatdivine]

For the people telling the people who have issues with Lil Nas X releasing so many remixes to extend his stay at #1, how would you feel if the next 5 artists who hit #1 released countless remixes/videos to each extend their stay at the position? You'd love that, right?

People's complaints are also about the precedent Lil Nas X's actions set. The music industry is very monkey see, monkey do. Tons of labels are taking notes on what Lil Nas X is doing right now and will try to emulate it once they can get their artist(s) to reach #1.

Just look at how many "dance challenges" we've gotten since the In My Feelings dance challenge took off last year? None of them have had close to the same impact/success as the In My Feelings dance challenge, but still, tons of artists have taken their shot at it.

Billboard needs to take a step back and make a lot of changes to what artists can and can't do to manipulate their charts. They can always arrive at solutions that are fair to everyone.

[Gary]

The next 5 artists very easily could release a bunch of remixes. If the song is good, this is a good thing not a bad thing.

Countless remixes and videos guarantees absolutely nothing. The next artist that tries it may fail. But yes, others will certainly copy this.

Remixes to promote an active song is nothing new, been happening for years. They are just easier to see now.

Streaming and the shorter songs also helps.

If Old Town Road were 4 minutes long instead of two, the remixes and videos would not have the same impact


Not really understanding why Billboard needs any rule changes, the song is popular everywhere but here. The remixes are happening because they are working. They are helping keep the song in the public eye and hence popular.

[Deleted]

So Columbia has 2 of the longest running #1 hits ever.