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Post by Soulsista on Jul 28, 2019 11:49:28 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
July 31, 2004
01 01 Confessions Part II - Usher (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Slow Motion - Juvenile feat. Soulja Slim
03 03 Burn - Usher
04 07 Lean Back - Terror Squad
05 05 If I Ain't Got You - Alicia Keys
06 06 Move Ya Body - Nina Sky feat. Jabba
07 04 The Reason - Hoobastank
08 09 Turn Me On - Kevin Lyttle
09 08 On Fire - Lloyd Banks
10 11 Dip It Low - Christina Milian
11 14 Everytime - Britney Spears
August 1, 2009
01 01 I Gotta Feeling - The Black Eyed Peas (4th of 14 weeks at #1)
02 02 Best I Ever Had - Drake
03 06 You Belong With Me - Taylor Swift
04 04 Knock You Down - Keri Hilson feat. Kanye West & Ne-Yo
05 05 Fire Burning - Sean Kingston
06 03 Boom Boom Pow - The Black Eyed Peas
07 07 LoveGame - Lady Gaga
08 08 I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho) - Pitbull
09 09 Birthday Sex - Jeremih
10 12 Waking Up In Vegas - Katy Perry
24 66 Here We Go Again - Demi Lovato
August 2, 2014
01 01 Rude - MAGIC! (2nd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 Fancy - Iggy Azalea feat. Charli XCX
03 05 Stay With Me - Sam Smith
04 03 Problem - Ariana Grande feat. Iggy Azalea
05 04 Am I Wrong - Nico & Vinz
06 07 All Of Me - John Legend
07 08 Maps - Maroon 5
08 06 Wiggle - Jason Derulo feat. Snoop Dogg
09 10 Latch - Disclosure feat. Sam Smith
10 09 Summer - Calvin Harris
24 NE Everything I Didn't Say - 5 Seconds Of Summer
August 4, 2018
01 01 In My Feelings - Drake (3rd of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 I Like It - Cardi B, Bad Bunny & J Balvin
03 03 Girls Like You - Maroon 5 feat. Cardi B
04 NE FEFE - 6ix9ine feat. Nicki Minaj & Murda Beatz
05 07 Better Now - Post Malone
06 04 Nice For What - Drake
07 05 Boo'd Up - Ella Mai
08 06 Lucid Dreams - Juice WRLD
09 09 Psycho - Post Malone feat. Ty Dolla $ign
10 13 Taste - Tyga feat. Offset
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Post by Gary on Jul 28, 2019 11:52:58 GMT -5
The next milestone after 17 weeks would be the 18 week run by the Goo Goo Dolls on the airplay chart in 1998
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Post by Kris on Jul 28, 2019 11:58:45 GMT -5
If we're bringing in specific chart records to compare the hot 100 #1 song then I can't wait to see one match Meant To Be's 50 weeks at #1.
Actually come to think of it I feel like Skillet's Monster currently holds the all time record on a chart for Christian Streaming, I believe it went like 6 years at #1?
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Post by Gary on Jul 28, 2019 12:02:40 GMT -5
6 years should be fun that would take a lot of remixes to get there though
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Post by Kris on Jul 28, 2019 12:11:05 GMT -5
Weird question but does anyone know if live streamed songs count towards streams? I remember when Happier got the huge Fortnite boost and now it's been performed live at the Fortnite World Cup, currently being viewed by around 750k players (yesterday's video got about 7 million views so I assume this will be similar in the end).
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 28, 2019 12:18:43 GMT -5
I think I saw something on CNN? And if it’s on CNN then it’ll probably get covered around the world in every country. The biggest newspaper in Hungary already did an article about it last week, and it hasn’t even broken the record yet. Yeah and I saw a few tweets go viral about it with 50k+ retweets and I know they all aren’t chart stans. Viral? That's a flop tweet |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 28, 2019 12:19:41 GMT -5
As much as you might dislike UGC, it is necessary in this current landscape. Memes and music have gone hand in hand since the early 2000s. UGC helps those meme songs like Harlem Shake and others to actually chart, which they should be if they're popular enough. Memes generate interest on the songs and that's the reason they get sold and streamed in the first place. Counting all these stupid videos is unfair imo because it's just passive listening. They give exposure to the song and if people like it, they will stream it. There's no need to count them. Radio listening is more passive than active. Should we discount most radio points on that basis too? |
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Post by tanooki on Jul 28, 2019 12:39:24 GMT -5
Memes generate interest on the songs and that's the reason they get sold and streamed in the first place. Counting all these stupid videos is unfair imo because it's just passive listening. They give exposure to the song and if people like it, they will stream it. There's no need to count them. Radio listening is more passive than active. Should we discount most radio points on that basis too? I think a lot of people would be okay with cutting radios power on the chart |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 28, 2019 12:47:10 GMT -5
Radio listening is more passive than active. Should we discount most radio points on that basis too? I think a lot of people would be okay with cutting radios power on the chart Not me. I think it contributes to popularity still. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 28, 2019 12:56:09 GMT -5
Radio listening is more passive than active. Should we discount most radio points on that basis too? I think a lot of people would be okay with cutting radios power on the chart Radio, programmed streaming and streaming generated via playlists. There's all the same - chosen by programmers. There's really no logical reason why "Without Me" should still be hovering around #20, a full 7 months after it hit #1. It's not selling, #115 on Spotify, not in Top 100 on Apple Music, but still #21 on radio and I'm guessing still quite high on programmed streams. |
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Post by wavey. on Jul 28, 2019 13:01:35 GMT -5
August 1, 2009
02 02 Best I Ever Had - Drake
August 4, 2018
01 01 In My Feelings - Drake
06 04 Nice For What - Drake
Gdamn. Drake damn near 10 years later scoring Top 10's. He didn't get his first leading #1 til "One Dance" and that was still later on into his career!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 13:01:56 GMT -5
billie really should've waited to drop the remix
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 28, 2019 13:04:41 GMT -5
1 year ago 🤤
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Post by fhas on Jul 28, 2019 13:05:27 GMT -5
I think a lot of people would be okay with cutting radios power on the chart Radio, programmed streaming and streaming generated via playlists. There's all the same - chosen by programmers. There's really no logical reason why "Without Me" should still be hovering around #20, a full 7 months after it hit #1. It's not selling, #115 on Spotify, not in Top 100 on Apple Music, but still #21 on radio and I'm guessing still quite high on programmed streams. According to Nielsen's mid-year report (January-June), Without Me is #1 on radio with 2.15B audience impressions and #1 in programmed streams with 92.6M. Eastside is #2 on radio and Perfect (!!!) is #2 in programmed streams. |
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Post by Choco on Jul 28, 2019 13:14:06 GMT -5
billie really should've waited to drop the remix I'm not sure the remix was officially announced at that point but it had leaked four days before it's official release, so they probably did the right thing releasing it that week. |
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Post by crazyb on Jul 28, 2019 14:08:41 GMT -5
I guess I'm one of the few that is fine with how radio & streaming are weighted right now? lol
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Post by badrobot on Jul 28, 2019 14:59:50 GMT -5
Radio, and probably passive steaming as that grows, are the only factors that represent the vast majority of casual music listeners. If you randomly asked people on the street if they knew certain songs, they’d probably be shocked that some songs are chart hits because they’ve never heard them before.
Basically, sales and on-demand streaming measure “passion” — how much a group of people love a song enough to seek it out — while radio/passive streaming measure “reach” — how many people know a song. I think it’s good the chart balances both.
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Post by cassiuscasanova on Jul 28, 2019 15:03:27 GMT -5
Right I mean cuz honestly there are songs I often have no idea are number one cuz I don’t play the radio
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Post by tanooki on Jul 28, 2019 15:58:38 GMT -5
Radio could definitely be cut down a little bit but I think what I'm most mad at is how paid and free streams are separated. Still don't see how my YouTube stream counts less than my Spotify stream but whatever
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 28, 2019 16:00:12 GMT -5
I guess I'm one of the few that is fine with how radio & streaming are weighted right now? lol I think it's fine now, I'm just saying, don't increase its weight in the formulas anymore unless audience numbers grow. Just let it become less and less. Exactly. If the H100 were a revenue chart, it component weight would be irrelevant. However, because it's positioned as a 'consumption/popularity' chart, weighing is completely at Billboard's whims and illogical rules. If you're going to include passive listening, then why hasn't Billboard added TV performances to the mix? I fail to see the difference between an artist performing a full song on an awards show or a song featured on DWTS (and other similar shows) v. exposure on the radio. |
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Post by fhas on Jul 28, 2019 17:56:18 GMT -5
Final Predictions --- TOP 10 --- August 3, 2019
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 18:08:45 GMT -5
I guess I'm one of the few that is fine with how radio & streaming are weighted right now? lol I think it's fine now, I'm just saying, don't increase its weight in the formulas anymore unless audience numbers grow. Just let it become less and less. At that point the hot 100 would just be a streaming chart |
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Post by garrettlen on Jul 28, 2019 18:15:28 GMT -5
August 1, 196401 02 A Hard Day's Night - The Beatles (1st of 2 weeks at #1)02 01 Rag Doll - The Four Seasons 03 06 The Little Old Lady (From Pasadena) - Jan & Dean 04 11 Everybody Loves Somebody - Dean Martin 05 18 Where Did Our Love Go - The Supremes 06 09 Wishin' & Hopin' - Dusty Springfield 07 08 Dang Me - Roger Miller 08 03 I Get Around - The Beach Boys 09 04 Memphis - Johnny Rivers 10 05 The Girl From Ipanema - Stan Getz & Astrud Gilberto The Beatles' 5th #1 on the Hot 100 in just 6 months came from the soundtrack of their very first major motion picture, which was also called "A Hard Day's Night" and which was bringing in the young audiences and surprisingly, getting good reviews from the critics during the summer of 1964. Looking around, the Supremes first major hit was shooting up the charts; destined to land in the top spot itself before the month was over, and British singer Dusty Springfield was providing the ongoing British Invasion with a much needed feminine touch. |
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Post by renfield75 on Jul 28, 2019 18:42:20 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago: August 4, 198401 01 When Doves Cry - Prince (5th and final week at #1)02 02 Ghostbusters - Ray Parker Jr. August 5, 198901 02 Batdance - Prince (1st and only week at #1)02 05 On Our Own - Bobby Brown Fun chart trivia: Exactly five years apart, a Prince soundtrack song kept the theme from a Ghostbusters movie from number one. Of course Ray Parker Jr. would eventually takeover at the top, while Bobby Brown would go no further. |
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Post by kimberly on Jul 28, 2019 18:49:35 GMT -5
There are only 2 songs in the top ten with gains in performance, and only 1 that reaches a new peak in points. Boring
Looks like Sunflower finna be the next #1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 19:59:47 GMT -5
At that point the hot 100 would just be a streaming chart Yep. That's where it's headed, it seems. Maybe not anytime in the near future, but possibly some day. You think? I can't see billboard ever getting rid of radio I think they will try to make it more.powerful even with declining numbers |
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Post by Gary on Jul 28, 2019 20:12:45 GMT -5
There is precedent for dumping radio - they have done it before- for a few years the top half of the chart was sales only
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 28, 2019 21:41:25 GMT -5
I doubt we'll ever reach a time when terrestrial radio doesn't exist. At least not in any of our lifetimes. There's just too many people that still need it for countless reasons. Maybe a long, long time down the road, but currently there's just too many technological and cultural restrictions tying millions to radio.
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Post by wavey. on Jul 29, 2019 7:55:41 GMT -5
I miss those weeks of 600k digital sales.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 29, 2019 8:09:14 GMT -5
I doubt we'll ever reach a time when terrestrial radio doesn't exist. At least not in any of our lifetimes. There's just too many people that still need it for countless reasons. Maybe a long, long time down the road, but currently there's just too many technological and cultural restrictions tying millions to radio. Sirius and the like fall under "terrestrial radio," no? We will definitely have some form of radio for decades to come. It's too easy. I'd love to know if satellite radio is still growing or if subscribers have stagnated. |
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