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Post by Gary on Jul 28, 2019 17:33:09 GMT -5
The LA times article does not refer to the song as a gay anthem, it does reference that Lil Nas X is gay but spends the article discussing how it is basically a novelty song The headline of the article says the song is a gay-pride celebrating miracle....ummm, no. Try reading the article |
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Post by livelightning on Jul 28, 2019 18:58:04 GMT -5
Isnβt Ransom like two months old? Why is it just now getting big. Also I donβt know how everythingβs gonna play out but after OTRβs 17th Week I think itβll start to drop more significantly. Itβs already dropping a bit. They found their new unknown, mediocre trap rapper/song to boost up the charts. The last one Pop Out & before that was Murder on My Mind You've got to be kidding. Ransom, Pop Out and MOMM are great songs. Ransom's one of the best songs out there. |
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Jul 28, 2019 19:09:25 GMT -5
βTruth Hurtsβ is 2 on Spotify!!!
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 28, 2019 19:14:16 GMT -5
Not even close.... and the writer of that article clearly is out of touch with what's going on in our community. Meanwhile, you have someone like Lizzo who is doing Pride events in 100-degree weather and busting her ass up on that stage to give us a good show. You and your white gay friends may be fuming but I am honestly happy Lil Nas X has the longest running #1 song by an LGBTQ artist and now he is going to have the longest run at #1 all by himself with his gay, black, 20 year-old ass from Atlanta. Again, I don't know about YOUR community, but what he has achieved is beautiful and should be celebrated. And I wouldn't worry about Lizzo much, her time is coming very very soon. She's still just an ally and I don't think "she gets paid to do pride shows" is a good enough excuse to write about her significance in the gay community, at least not before she becomes a pride regular a la Robyn, Carly Rae etc. Edit: Oh and everyone in my circles still makes references to this song and plays it pretty often. I would NOT call it a "gay anthem" but Lil Nas X's coming out story sure is a pride miracle. Lol no oneβs fuming. No oneβs mad that Lil Nas X is a gay black record-breaker. We can be thrilled for him, want him to succeed, celebrate this moment of representation of black queerness... and still think the song isnβt a βgay anthemβ in the way that term is typically used. |
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Post by kimberly on Jul 28, 2019 19:26:15 GMT -5
Lol no oneβs fuming. No oneβs mad that Lil Nas X is a gay black record-breaker. We can be thrilled for him, want him to succeed, celebrate this moment of representation of black queerness... and still think the song isnβt a βgay anthemβ in the way that term is typically used. The article never makes that claim anyway. The poster probably couldn't read it because of the fumes lol he's been spilling his hatred of Lil Nas X in every thread there is on Pulse |
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 28, 2019 19:28:13 GMT -5
Lol no oneβs fuming. No oneβs mad that Lil Nas X is a gay black record-breaker. We can be thrilled for him, want him to succeed, celebrate this moment of representation of black queerness... and still think the song isnβt a βgay anthemβ in the way that term is typically used. The article never makes that claim anyway. The poster probably couldn't read it because of the fumes lol he's been spilling his hatred of Lil Nas X in every thread there is on Pulse Lolololol gotcha. I was engaging with this conversation from the toilet and didnβt read the article either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 19:33:55 GMT -5
I think this is the week Truth Hurts goes top 3 and will be number one by the end of August
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 19:42:10 GMT -5
As a gay man I can confirm that OTR is a gay anthem to me
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Post by David on Jul 28, 2019 19:52:43 GMT -5
Not even close.... and the writer of that article clearly is out of touch with what's going on in our community. Meanwhile, you have someone like Lizzo who is doing Pride events in 100-degree weather and busting her ass up on that stage to give us a good show. You and your white gay friends may be fuming but I am honestly happy Lil Nas X has the longest running #1 song by an LGBTQ artist and now he is going to have the longest run at #1 all by himself with his gay, black, 20 year-old ass from Atlanta. Again, I don't know about YOUR community, but what he has achieved is beautiful and should be celebrated. And I wouldn't worry about Lizzo much, her time is coming very very soon. She's still just an ally and I don't think "she gets paid to do pride shows" is a good enough excuse to write about her significance in the gay community, at least not before she becomes a pride regular a la Robyn, Carly Rae etc. Edit: Oh and everyone in my circles still makes references to this song and plays it pretty often. I would NOT call it a "gay anthem" but Lil Nas X's coming out story sure is a pride miracle. Whoa... to say my "white" friends is nothing short of racist. You should be ashamed of yourself. You don't know anything about me. |
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Post by kimberly on Jul 28, 2019 19:59:41 GMT -5
Whoa... to say my "white" friends is nothing short of racist. You should be ashamed of yourself. You don't know anything about me.  |
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Post by David on Jul 28, 2019 20:01:44 GMT -5
Whoa... to say my "white" friends is nothing short of racist. You should be ashamed of yourself. You don't know anything about me. Please explain to me why you had to say "white" friends. That's all I ask.... how do you know my friends are all white? Because of how I look? |
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 28, 2019 20:02:50 GMT -5
Whoa... to say my "white" friends is nothing short of racist. You should be ashamed of yourself. You don't know anything about me. Oh Christ why did I have to go and agree with this guy just for him to say some dumb shit like this |
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Post by David on Jul 28, 2019 20:06:25 GMT -5
Oh Christ why did I have to go and agree with this guy just for him to say some dumb s**t like this I didn't bring up the color of someone's skin, man. That was unnecessary, IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:50:02 GMT -5
Can we just get back to subject, please. Congratulations to Lil' Nas X for breaking the record, good for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:52:33 GMT -5
Oh Christ why did I have to go and agree with this guy just for him to say some dumb s**t like this I didn't bring up the color of someone's skin, man. That was unnecessary, IMO. Are you single |
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Post by David on Jul 28, 2019 20:56:28 GMT -5
I didn't bring up the color of someone's skin, man. That was unnecessary, IMO. Are you single Ready to mingle, my man  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:58:27 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 28, 2019 21:22:14 GMT -5
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jul 28, 2019 22:44:01 GMT -5
Jesus this thread is a mess
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Post by 85la on Jul 28, 2019 23:49:38 GMT -5
Not even close.... and the writer of that article clearly is out of touch with what's going on in our community. Meanwhile, you have someone like Lizzo who is doing Pride events in 100-degree weather and busting her ass up on that stage to give us a good show. You and your white gay friends may be fuming but I am honestly happy Lil Nas X has the longest running #1 song by an LGBTQ artist and now he is going to have the longest run at #1 all by himself with his gay, black, 20 year-old ass from Atlanta. Again, I don't know about YOUR community, but what he has achieved is beautiful and should be celebrated. And I wouldn't worry about Lizzo much, her time is coming very very soon. She's still just an ally and I don't think "she gets paid to do pride shows" is a good enough excuse to write about her significance in the gay community, at least not before she becomes a pride regular a la Robyn, Carly Rae etc. Edit: Oh and everyone in my circles still makes references to this song and plays it pretty often. I would NOT call it a "gay anthem" but Lil Nas X's coming out story sure is a pride miracle. I usually don't take sides but yes, let's please not bring up race/ethnicity especially when he didn't bring it up at all. The discussion didn't start off as anything to do with that, so that was definitely uncalled for. Plus, even after all of that, you still generally agreed with him by saying you would not call OTR a gay anthem. But I'll also say that even for those of us who are gay, of course each of us could have very different groups of friends and people we associate with, as being gay is of course just one trait one could have, and no one of us can claim to speak for the entire "gay community." Having said that though, I would side with the argument and I personally get the sense that OTR is definitely not a gay anthem, nothing in the lyrics or any of the videos indicate that and Lil Nas X didn't push it and the song was not marketed in any way as such(and yes it is commendable that he came out, however gay singer doesn't automatically equal gay anthem, and another small quip is that he didn't officially confirm it until after OTR was huge for a while, which is of course different from an already openly-queer artist trying to make it big from the get-go). And here is the thing about the article not saying it was a gay anthem: first of all I will admit that I didn't read the article but THAT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL, and you know why? Because the title says it was a gay anthem! (not in those exact words, but the phrase "gay-pride-celebrating" is pretty much synonymous with "gay anthem"). So if those of you who have read the article are saying it didn't say OTR is a gay anthem, why would the title say so? It's inconsistent and sounds like very poor editing on the part of the author/newspaper editor! And as someone said earlier, I would also have to question how involved the author is with the gay/LGBTQ community and how qualified he would be to gauge something like this. |
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Post by kimberly on Jul 29, 2019 0:18:12 GMT -5
You and your white gay friends may be fuming but I am honestly happy Lil Nas X has the longest running #1 song by an LGBTQ artist and now he is going to have the longest run at #1 all by himself with his gay, black, 20 year-old ass from Atlanta. Again, I don't know about YOUR community, but what he has achieved is beautiful and should be celebrated. And I wouldn't worry about Lizzo much, her time is coming very very soon. She's still just an ally and I don't think "she gets paid to do pride shows" is a good enough excuse to write about her significance in the gay community, at least not before she becomes a pride regular a la Robyn, Carly Rae etc. Edit: Oh and everyone in my circles still makes references to this song and plays it pretty often. I would NOT call it a "gay anthem" but Lil Nas X's coming out story sure is a pride miracle. I usually don't take sides but yes, let's please not bring up race/ethnicity especially when he didn't bring it up at all. The discussion didn't start off as anything to do with that, so that was definitely uncalled for. Plus, even after all of that, you still generally agreed with him by saying you would not call OTR a gay anthem. But I'll also say that even for those of us who are gay, of course each of us could have very different groups of friends and people we associate with, as being gay is of course just one trait one could have, and no one of us can claim to speak for the entire "gay community." Having said that though, I would side with the argument and I personally get the sense that OTR is definitely not a gay anthem, nothing in the lyrics or any of the videos indicate that and Lil Nas X didn't push it and the song was not marketed in any way as such(and yes it is commendable that he came out, however gay singer doesn't automatically equal gay anthem, and another small quip is that he didn't officially confirm it until after OTR was huge for a while, which is of course different from an already openly-queer artist trying to make it big from the get-go). And here is the thing about the article not saying it was a gay anthem: first of all I will admit that I didn't read the article but THAT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL, and you know why? Because the title says it was a gay anthem! (not in those exact words, but the phrase "gay-pride-celebrating" is pretty much synonymous with "gay anthem"). So if those of you who have read the article are saying it didn't say OTR is a gay anthem, why would the title say so? It's inconsistent and sounds like very poor editing on the part of the author/newspaper editor! And as someone said earlier, I would also have to question how involved the author is with the gay/LGBTQ community and how qualified he would be to gauge something like this. Not trying to turn this place into reality tv so this is the last time I'm responding on this matter. Up first, go read the article if you want to be taken seriously. In the title, it doesn't say "OTR IS A GAY ANTHEM," it simply says Lil Nas X is an artist that is unifying America with a pop miracle and alludes to the idea that he broke into country as a black artist and hip hop as a gay man. So you're wrong there. Plus, headlines are made to attract eyeballs. Of course it is not the most crystal clear headline, but I think it's succinct and powerful while being intriguing and not giving tons away. Would not call that bad editing as a reporter myself. NEXT. I think everyone needs to remember that the 5 people around them are not the general public. Me and my friends bop to "Before I Let Go" daily, and I heard someone bike past me playing Lion King: The Gift the other day. But I'm not going to pretend those were smash hits. Same applies here, especially because white gays keep appropriating African-American vernacular and black gay culture everyday, but would rather see Taylor Swift's gay-baiting single on top than an actual black gay person.  |
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Post by rfucom on Jul 29, 2019 1:39:00 GMT -5
very disturbing thread.
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Post by David on Jul 29, 2019 5:48:49 GMT -5
You and your white gay friends may be fuming but I am honestly happy Lil Nas X has the longest running #1 song by an LGBTQ artist and now he is going to have the longest run at #1 all by himself with his gay, black, 20 year-old ass from Atlanta. Again, I don't know about YOUR community, but what he has achieved is beautiful and should be celebrated. And I wouldn't worry about Lizzo much, her time is coming very very soon. She's still just an ally and I don't think "she gets paid to do pride shows" is a good enough excuse to write about her significance in the gay community, at least not before she becomes a pride regular a la Robyn, Carly Rae etc. Edit: Oh and everyone in my circles still makes references to this song and plays it pretty often. I would NOT call it a "gay anthem" but Lil Nas X's coming out story sure is a pride miracle. I usually don't take sides but yes, let's please not bring up race/ethnicity especially when he didn't bring it up at all. The discussion didn't start off as anything to do with that, so that was definitely uncalled for. Plus, even after all of that, you still generally agreed with him by saying you would not call OTR a gay anthem. But I'll also say that even for those of us who are gay, of course each of us could have very different groups of friends and people we associate with, as being gay is of course just one trait one could have, and no one of us can claim to speak for the entire "gay community." Having said that though, I would side with the argument and I personally get the sense that OTR is definitely not a gay anthem, nothing in the lyrics or any of the videos indicate that and Lil Nas X didn't push it and the song was not marketed in any way as such(and yes it is commendable that he came out, however gay singer doesn't automatically equal gay anthem, and another small quip is that he didn't officially confirm it until after OTR was huge for a while, which is of course different from an already openly-queer artist trying to make it big from the get-go). And here is the thing about the article not saying it was a gay anthem: first of all I will admit that I didn't read the article but THAT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL, and you know why? Because the title says it was a gay anthem! (not in those exact words, but the phrase "gay-pride-celebrating" is pretty much synonymous with "gay anthem"). So if those of you who have read the article are saying it didn't say OTR is a gay anthem, why would the title say so? It's inconsistent and sounds like very poor editing on the part of the author/newspaper editor! And as someone said earlier, I would also have to question how involved the author is with the gay/LGBTQ community and how qualified he would be to gauge something like this. Their post would have been totally cool if they had left out the word "white." That crossed a line and it could have easily been buried with a simple apology which apparently isn't going to happen. The color of my skin (or my friends) shouldn't be discussed here. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 29, 2019 6:02:00 GMT -5
And here is the thing about the article not saying it was a gay anthem: first of all I will admit that I didn't read the article but THAT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL, and you know why? Because the title says it was a gay anthem! (not in those exact words, but the phrase "gay-pride-celebrating" is pretty much synonymous with "gay anthem"). So if those of you who have read the article are saying it didn't say OTR is a gay anthem, why would the title say so? It's inconsistent and sounds like very poor editing on the part of the author/newspaper editor! And as someone said earlier, I would also have to question how involved the author is with the gay/LGBTQ community and how qualified he would be to gauge something like this. So youβre admitting you didnβt read the article, but you read the title which said it was a gay anthem only to clarify the title didnβt actually call it that but βpretty muchβ did, while asking why the writer of the article called it a gay anthem - except they didnβt. Might be poor editing on the editorβs part but itβs poor reading on your part. Mountain =/= molehill. |
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Post by Gary on Jul 29, 2019 6:05:59 GMT -5
Their post would have been totally cool if they had left out the word "white." That crossed a line and it could have easily been buried with a simple apology which apparently isn't going to happen. The color of my skin (or my friends) shouldn't be discussed here. Then don't keep bringing up the color of your skin or your friends - If you are offended by certain words or phrases that people bring up I suggest trying the report button - let staff handle it or take the conversation to PM, instead of bringing the thread down . I make no apologies for posting the article - I thought it was a good article about a novelty song. If you are not interested in reading the article then don't - but if you are going to comment on it - I suggest try reading it first. |
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Post by kierz7 on Jul 29, 2019 6:18:49 GMT -5
Will βOTRβ be number one for an 18th week next week?
Whatβs the chance, percentage wise, thus far? 60/80/100%?
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Post by Gary on Jul 29, 2019 6:20:36 GMT -5
I think the song that overtakes it will be a new release rather than Truth Hurts, Bad Guy or Senorita
Will that be this week - I doubt it
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Post by kierz7 on Jul 29, 2019 6:24:56 GMT -5
I think the song that overtakes it will be a new release rather than Truth Hurts, Bad Guy or Senorita Will that be this week - I doubt it What the FU*K are Rihanna or Adele doing? SMH! The fact that a number one could potentially be so easy for them right now seeing as βOTRβ is finally on life support. Ah... my faves. Canβt stand either of them! |
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Post by David on Jul 29, 2019 7:30:20 GMT -5
Their post would have been totally cool if they had left out the word "white." That crossed a line and it could have easily been buried with a simple apology which apparently isn't going to happen. The color of my skin (or my friends) shouldn't be discussed here. Then don't keep bringing up the color of your skin or your friends - If you are offended by certain words or phrases that people bring up I suggest trying the report button - let staff handle it or take the conversation to PM, instead of bringing the thread down . I make no apologies for posting the article - I thought it was a good article about a novelty song. If you are not interested in reading the article then don't - but if you are going to comment on it - I suggest try reading it first. If someone personally attacks me publically for everyone to see then I have the right to respond the same way. Now if they had sent me a DM in the first place that would have been cool but they decided to go a different route. I'm not going to try to get someone in trouble with the mods.... that's a bit immature. The article is fine - it's the title that is misleading. You were fine in posting it. :) |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 29, 2019 7:32:43 GMT -5
And here is the thing about the article not saying it was a gay anthem: first of all I will admit that I didn't read the article but THAT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL, and you know why? Because the title says it was a gay anthem! (not in those exact words, but the phrase "gay-pride-celebrating" is pretty much synonymous with "gay anthem"). So if those of you who have read the article are saying it didn't say OTR is a gay anthem, why would the title say so? It's inconsistent and sounds like very poor editing on the part of the author/newspaper editor! And as someone said earlier, I would also have to question how involved the author is with the gay/LGBTQ community and how qualified he would be to gauge something like this. Surely you are aware of 'clickbait' and the like. I don't like the trend, but it's definitely a thing for headlines to be misrepresentative as ultimately they just want people to click on the article for advertising sake. |
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