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This is the SAME WAY people got unnecessarily mad when I said Beyonce's The Gift ''under-performed,'' a statement also rooted in fact, and people wanted to have my head.
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Capitalizing various things and stuff doesn't make your points any stronger. It comes across like you are yelling. And that doesn't make it any more valid. I can bold and CAPITALIZE stuff, hell, I could even make it this big and another color and that doesn't add anything. It's kind of annoying, TBH. You should have just kept this quote to yourself. I wasn't speaking to you and just like you said: I CAN AND WILL CAPITALIZE WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT TO CAPITALIZE, WHENEVER I FEEL LIKE IT. SEE? THERE.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 2:54:01 GMT -5
Hilarious that the person incessantly quoting me with GIF upon GIF when I wasn't speaking to him in the first place, is telling me to calm down. Anyways, Wale and Big Sean both dropped new singles this week. Skylar Grey also dropped the lead single, ''Shame On You,'' off her forthcoming album. It has her returning to her folk roots and it's her first new music since leaving Interscope Records/KIDinaKORNER.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 3:22:04 GMT -5
So, Taylor might not go on an all-stadium tour for Lover. Quotes from her interview with Ryan Seacrest. โI was so full-on planning this album release and directing the videos and putting all these different clues in these videos and trying to make this album release experience the most fun one for my fans, that I didnโt wanna plan what weโre gonna do in terms of live and I donโt want to do the same thing every time because I donโt want my life to feel like Iโm on a treadmill,โ โStadiums are fun,โ she began. โStadiums are amazing โ I love stadiums, I just donโt know if weโre going to do the same thing as we did last time.โ โMy goal for whatever live setting that we decide to do things in, is gonna be to try to make it feel smaller like a living room.โ www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-lover-tour-2020-877097/
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Post by Mylo13 ๐ on Aug 28, 2019 3:25:56 GMT -5
Lizzo for #1 please!
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 3:33:45 GMT -5
Lizzo for #1 please! I really hope next year isn't like 2018 or 2019 where one artist stays at #1 for very long. It's way more fun watching the charts when there's a chance of a new #1 every other week.
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Post by Mylo13 ๐ on Aug 28, 2019 3:39:11 GMT -5
Lizzo for #1 please! I really hope next year isn't like 2018 or 2019 where one artist stays at #1 for very long. It's way more fun watching the charts when there's a chance of a new #1 every other week. Yeah I understand that, I'm fine with it as long as the songs are all as good quality as we've been getting this year in #1's lol.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 3:43:41 GMT -5
I really hope next year isn't like 2018 or 2019 where one artist stays at #1 for very long. It's way more fun watching the charts when there's a chance of a new #1 every other week. Yeah I understand that, I'm fine with it as long as the songs are all as good quality as we've been getting this year in #1's lol. Old Town Road wasn't a bad song to me by any means, especially as the lead single for a new artist. bad guy is a great record and so is Senorita. Looking at the list of #1's this year, I'll admit that we did get way better #1's this year than last year. I hope Post Malone snags a #1 next month, either with Goodbyes or a song off his new album and then I hope Lil Tecca gets to hit #1, too, if only to have a staple year with tons of teenage/young adult acts hitting #1.
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Post by Mylo13 ๐ on Aug 28, 2019 3:49:14 GMT -5
Yeah I understand that, I'm fine with it as long as the songs are all as good quality as we've been getting this year in #1's lol. Old Town Road wasn't a bad song to me by any means, especially as the lead single for a new artist. bad guy is a great record and so is Senorita. Looking at the list of #1's this year, I'll admit that we did get way better #1's this year than last year. I hope Post Malone snags a #1 next month, either with Goodbyes or a song off his new album and then I hope Lil Tecca gets to hit #1, too, if only to have a staple year with tons of teenage/young adult acts hitting #1. Last year's #1's were unfortunately kinda mediocre :/ My least favourite Post Malone single hit #1, Drake had 2 number one smashes I didn't care for and the biggest pop #1's of the year were Girls Like You and Perfect :( . This year, from thank u, next to now, has been a big blast of fresh air. Hell, even the #2's are better this year for me. Even if I don't love Ransom, I see the appeal and I'd be fine for it to hit a week or two at #1, provided it's not blocking any better songs haha. It has the momentum to if radio can get on board (or streaming increases even higher to OTR levels lol).
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 3:54:13 GMT -5
Old Town Road wasn't a bad song to me by any means, especially as the lead single for a new artist. bad guy is a great record and so is Senorita. Looking at the list of #1's this year, I'll admit that we did get way better #1's this year than last year. I hope Post Malone snags a #1 next month, either with Goodbyes or a song off his new album and then I hope Lil Tecca gets to hit #1, too, if only to have a staple year with tons of teenage/young adult acts hitting #1. Last year's #1's were unfortunately kinda mediocre :/ My least favourite Post Malone single hit #1, Drake had 2 number one smashes I didn't care for and the biggest pop #1's of the year were Girls Like You and Perfect . This year, from thank u, next to now, has been a big blast of fresh air. Hell, even the #2's are better this year for me. Even if I don't love Ransom, I see the appeal and I'd be fine for it to hit a week or two at #1, provided it's not blocking any better songs haha. It has the momentum to if radio can get on board (or streaming increases even higher to OTR levels lol). Unfortunately, most #1's aren't the best songs off an album. If you're lucky, one of the better songs off an artist's album reaches #1 but more often than not, you'll find way better songs on a single's parent album. We might also get more #1's if/when artists Rihanna, Adele and Kendrick Lamar drop later this year.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 28, 2019 5:45:36 GMT -5
To be honest, I'm tired of seeing females being put aside to make their achievements seem more noteworthy. We don't do it for men, so why do we do it for women? Amongst ALL artists, the album isn't SMASHING. You don't have to mention Taylor being a female and it being a pop album to magnify the album's performance on streaming platforms. Imagine if we made these distinctions for male rap albums? ''Oh, it's selling INCREDIBLY WELL for an album by a male rapper.'' Ugh. Just stop. I didn't say it was under-performing. I said it was doing just well enough. I didn't know I had to make that statement in the context of albums by female pop stars. hop off drake's dick for a second, sis. just say you don't respect women's achievements and go at this point because i've noticed a trend. Heโs still salty Drakeโs last album mix thing flopped as hard as Beyoncรฉโs soundtrack thing.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 28, 2019 5:49:14 GMT -5
I'd say Lover is smashing on streaming. It doesn't have to be Scorpion or X's discography after his death to be "smashing" on streaming. It's doing incredibly well, especially for a pop artist nearly 15 years into her career. I apologize. I made the GRAVE MISTAKE of saying it was doing ''well enough on streaming.'' I should have said it's smashing and dominating on streaming for an album made by a female pop artist nearly 15 years into her career who was also first a country artist and who also just left her former label of 13 years. When I said Lover was doing just well enough on streaming, I meant generally, as an album released by a major mainstream artist. I remember saying last week that I don't expect her to have a massive splash on streaming platforms with Lover as she JUST embraced streaming and her fans haven't had the time to fully transition to that form of music consumption yet. I, personally, was never expecting her to thoroughly dominate on streaming, so my statement WASN'T me expressing disappointment or me trying to undermine the album's streaming performance. That's where I was misunderstood and that's what's causing this pointless back and forth. This isn't me taking it out on you. I'm just bewildered that we're even at this point in this silly discussion. This is the SAME WAY people got unnecessarily mad when I said Beyonce's The Gift ''under-performed,'' a statement also rooted in fact, and people wanted to have my head. Someone should please link me to the guideline of what can and can't be said on here. You often miss the point about context I think is what the common thread is. What was said was that Lover is doing well on streaming for a pop album - a genre that doesnโt often do well on streaming (which was also stated, to give context). In comparison to some rap albums, itโs not amazing. But comparing it to other pop albums (thus adding context), it is. That was the point. And you added โno itโs notโ and said youโre tired of women getting a free pass to success or whatever it was. Context is key. I donโt actually believe Drakeโs last output was a flop because the situation around what it was (old songs) doesnโt demand that it do as well as an album of original songs. But your reaction to my suggestion that itโs a flop isnโt unlike the reaction to your suggestion Beyoncรฉโs soundtrack flopped, which I found hilariously hypocritical since the context of that soundtrack lended itself to it not having huge expectations in the first place. Context is key.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 6:14:16 GMT -5
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 6:36:59 GMT -5
hop off drake's dick for a second, sis. just say you don't respect women's achievements and go at this point because i've noticed a trend. Heโs still salty Drakeโs last album mix thing flopped as hard as Beyoncรฉโs soundtrack thing. Yes, compare a new Beyonce album with new (catchy, radio-appealing) music that moved 54K units in it's first week to a Drake compilation album filled with previously-released songs as old as 8 years old that moved 109K units in it's first week, debuted at #1, spent two weeks in the top 10 and debuted 6 songs on the Hot 100. Yes. They're exactly the same thing. Also, why the hell would I be ''salty''? One flopped, the other didn't. The end.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 6:49:58 GMT -5
I apologize. I made the GRAVE MISTAKE of saying it was doing ''well enough on streaming.'' I should have said it's smashing and dominating on streaming for an album made by a female pop artist nearly 15 years into her career who was also first a country artist and who also just left her former label of 13 years. When I said Lover was doing just well enough on streaming, I meant generally, as an album released by a major mainstream artist. I remember saying last week that I don't expect her to have a massive splash on streaming platforms with Lover as she JUST embraced streaming and her fans haven't had the time to fully transition to that form of music consumption yet. I, personally, was never expecting her to thoroughly dominate on streaming, so my statement WASN'T me expressing disappointment or me trying to undermine the album's streaming performance. That's where I was misunderstood and that's what's causing this pointless back and forth. This isn't me taking it out on you. I'm just bewildered that we're even at this point in this silly discussion. This is the SAME WAY people got unnecessarily mad when I said Beyonce's The Gift ''under-performed,'' a statement also rooted in fact, and people wanted to have my head. Someone should please link me to the guideline of what can and can't be said on here. You often miss the point about context I think is what the common thread is. What was said was that Lover is doing well on streaming for a pop album - a genre that doesnโt often do well on streaming (which was also stated, to give context). In comparison to some rap albums, itโs not amazing. But comparing it to other pop albums (thus adding context), it is. That was the point. And you added โno itโs notโ and said youโre tired of women getting a free pass to success or whatever it was. Context is key. I donโt actually believe Drakeโs last output was a flop because the situation around what it was (old songs) doesnโt demand that it do as well as an album of original songs. But your reaction to my suggestion that itโs a flop isnโt unlike the reaction to your suggestion Beyoncรฉโs soundtrack flopped, which I found hilariously hypocritical since the context of that soundtrack lended itself to it not having huge expectations in the first place. Context is key. I never said that. I've explained what I meant already a bit back in the thread. You can go and read it for yourself if you care to, but I won't be explaining myself again. Then why did you literally just say I was salty because his latest project flopped? Thank goodness you finally said it yourself so we can finally put this silly topic to rest. Wasn't the Gift an album filled with original songs? Were any of the Beyonce songs on that album a cover? So why were you angry that I judged a new album by Beyonce that was filled with new, original songs the same way I'd judge any new album filled with new songs by any other major act? Someone even mentioned other movie soundtrack albums like A Star is Born and Black Panther, recent albums fronted by major acts also, which did exponentially better than the Gift, as a way to offer context, but you didn't want to see any of that. The only reason I said The Gift flopped was because it was filled with new songs by Beyonce. If that wasn't the case, I wouldn't have said that. I didn't call Everything is Love and Homecoming Live flops because in their separate contexts, they weren't. I said that numerous times in the thread about her album week, but you weren't hearing any of it. I was a ''hater,'' I was ''pressed,'' I was hating on the ''Queen.'' Like my feelings towards Beyonce affects the commercial performance of her albums.
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Post by twelvevinylrecords on Aug 28, 2019 8:19:11 GMT -5
Canโt we all just get along and enjoy music lmao
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Post by mackattack on Aug 28, 2019 8:32:35 GMT -5
So you think Taylorโs entire album will debut in the top 50? At least most of it will, and I wouldnโt be surprised if the entire album debuted in the top 50. The streaming numbers are INSANE Hmm I mean its streaming numbers are comparable to โSweetenerโ at the moment, which didnโt even manage to debut all its tracks period, let alone in the top 50. I havenโt really been paying attention to sales or any other metric, though, weโll have to wait and see. Anyway, impressive numbers for Taylor regardless!
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Aug 28, 2019 10:38:37 GMT -5
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 28, 2019 10:39:01 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/08/28
1(=) Khalid - Talk 151.67(-1.24) 2(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 141.48(+0.52) 3(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Seรฑorita 130.46(+1.63) 4(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 126.67(+0.03) 5(=) Shawn Mendes - If I Can't Have You 121.34(-1.28) 6(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 113.04(+0.18) 7(=) Billie Eilish - bad guy 111.58 -0.86 6 122.76 7/93 21 23 8/77 8(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 77.45(+0.22) 9(=) Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger 76.13(+0.25) 10(+1) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 72.72(+1.41)
15(+1) Justin Moore - The Ones That Didnโt Make It Back Home 60.74(+0.96)
17(+1) Ed Sheeran - Beautiful People (feat. Khalid) 56.95(+0.69)
21(+1) Luke Bryan - Knockin' Boots 52.35(+1.10) 23(=) Ariana Grande & Social House - Boyfriend 50.84(+0.97) 32(=) Saweetie - My Type (feat. City Girls & Jhenรฉ Aiko) [Remix] 41.58(+0.72) 39(=) Chris Lane - I Don't Know About You 38.01(+0.73)
58(+2) Megan Thee Stallion - Hot Girl Summer (feat. Nicki Minaj & Ty Dolla $ign) 27.23(+1.17)
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Aug 28, 2019 10:42:30 GMT -5
A tie. Thatโs just crazy
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 28, 2019 10:47:04 GMT -5
^An exciting race to the finish, it seems!
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 28, 2019 11:04:36 GMT -5
You often miss the point about context I think is what the common thread is. What was said was that Lover is doing well on streaming for a pop album - a genre that doesnโt often do well on streaming (which was also stated, to give context). In comparison to some rap albums, itโs not amazing. But comparing it to other pop albums (thus adding context), it is. That was the point. And you added โno itโs notโ and said youโre tired of women getting a free pass to success or whatever it was. Context is key. I donโt actually believe Drakeโs last output was a flop because the situation around what it was (old songs) doesnโt demand that it do as well as an album of original songs. But your reaction to my suggestion that itโs a flop isnโt unlike the reaction to your suggestion Beyoncรฉโs soundtrack flopped, which I found hilariously hypocritical since the context of that soundtrack lended itself to it not having huge expectations in the first place. Context is key. I never said that. I've explained what I meant already a bit back in the thread. You can go and read it for yourself if you care to, but I won't be explaining myself again. Then why did you literally just say I was salty because his latest project flopped? Thank goodness you finally said it yourself so we can finally put this silly topic to rest. Wasn't the Gift an album filled with original songs? Were any of the Beyonce songs on that album a cover? So why were you angry that I judged a new album by Beyonce that was filled with new, original songs the same way I'd judge any new album filled with new songs by any other major act? Someone even mentioned other movie soundtrack albums like A Star is Born and Black Panther, recent albums fronted by major acts also, which did exponentially better than the Gift, as a way to offer context, but you didn't want to see any of that. The only reason I said The Gift flopped was because it was filled with new songs by Beyonce. If that wasn't the case, I wouldn't have said that. I didn't call Everything is Love and Homecoming Live flops because in their separate contexts, they weren't. I said that numerous times in the thread about her album week, but you weren't hearing any of it. I was a ''hater,'' I was ''pressed,'' I was hating on the ''Queen.'' Like my feelings towards Beyonce affects the commercial performance of her albums. Itโs already been explained to you ad nauseam but you choose to stick with the narrative youโve gone with so it doesnโt need to be explained again.
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Post by highho on Aug 28, 2019 11:34:58 GMT -5
Drake with dominate 2020 and all the years to come. #GOAT
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Post by Choco on Aug 28, 2019 11:40:01 GMT -5
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Aug 28, 2019 11:42:44 GMT -5
Drake with dominate 2020 and all the years to come. #GOAT I remember people said that about Katy Perry after the Dark Horse era...
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Post by Gary on Aug 28, 2019 11:47:35 GMT -5
Artists rarely last on top for decades because as with everyone - the music of today will eventually become the music your parents listened to
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 28, 2019 11:57:46 GMT -5
^Maintaining a similar level of success throughout time is not easy for any artist even for the most successful ones.
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Post by moonlite on Aug 28, 2019 12:09:57 GMT -5
the VMAs seemed to help Good as Hell a lot, its doing amazing
#2 on iTunes #31 on Spotify (#18 w/o the Taylor tracks) #54 on AM (#29 w/o the Thug and Taylor songs)
probably won't debut this week because of the Taylor songs, but probably will the following week
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Post by jeiboy on Aug 28, 2019 12:58:38 GMT -5
#TruthHurtsStreamingParty #LizzbiansUnite
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Post by kimberly on Aug 28, 2019 13:13:11 GMT -5
the VMAs seemed to help Good as Hell a lot, its doing amazing #2 on iTunes #31 on Spotify (#18 w/o the Taylor tracks) #54 on AM (#29 w/o the Thug and Taylor songs) probably won't debut this week because of the Taylor songs, but probably will the following week She has 4 songs in the top 15 on iTunes, including #1 and #2, +her album is #2 and her Coconut Oil EP is #4!! Sales queen
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