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Post by kierz7 on Aug 28, 2019 14:40:52 GMT -5
the VMAs seemed to help Good as Hell a lot, its doing amazing #2 on iTunes #31 on Spotify (#18 w/o the Taylor tracks) #54 on AM (#29 w/o the Thug and Taylor songs) probably won't debut this week because of the Taylor songs, but probably will the following week She has 4 songs in the top 15 on iTunes, including #1 and #2, +her album is #2 and her Coconut Oil EP is #4!! Sales queen KING!
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Post by kierz7 on Aug 28, 2019 14:50:49 GMT -5
Drake with dominate 2020 and all the years to come. #GOAT According to who exactly? The Global phenomenon's that were Elvis Presley in the 1950's, The Beatles in the 1960's and Michael Jackson in the 1980's eventually passed, so I have no doubt in my mind that a few acts of whom were big in the streaming era in the late 2010's will also pass, Drake included. I agree with Gary . Music artists rarely stay and remain high commercial powers for two full decades, let alone for more than that. They either: 1) Attain high & respectable chart success with a decade-long career before losing it completely the following decade. (The Bee Gees, Olivia Newton John post-1970's; Most Arena Rock/Glam-Rock acts post-1980's; TLC, Boyz II Men post-1990's, Nelly, 50 Cent post-2000's etc.) 2) Are hugely successful for an era or two before never being seen again on the charts. (Cyndi Lauper, Debbie Gibson, Paula Abdul, Vanessa Williams, Bobby Brown, Ashanti, etc.) 3) Lose their commercial/chart prowess but continue to remain a favourite among critics and are often heavily awarded for it. (Prince after the early 1990's is a big example of this, at least until the mid-2000's. Beyoncé is also the definition of this in the 2010's. Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen etc.). 4) Lose their commercial/chart prowess but maintain a huge fanbase that enable them to become huge touring acts and remains so for years thereafter (U2, Rolling Stones, Bon Jovi, Celine Dion, Lionel Richie, Cher, Tina Turner, Beyoncé etc.)
In my opinion, Madonna is the only artist to truly ever be commercially successful, chart-wise, across almost two complete generations. After scoring her initial chart hits in 1982, she was still able to score hit songs and albums well after twenty years later: Music, Me Against The Music, Hung Up/Confessions era, 4 Minutes etc. Elton John is another from his debut in the early 1970's to his hits scored in the 1990's, and semi-international hits scored in the 2000's. Of course with Madonna it's mainly been her ability to reinvent herself that's kept her so significant. Also, her features and collaborations with newer acts has helped. I think this will be the case with Rihanna in the 2020's - her entire persona and her massive chart successes is the closest to Madonna of any Pop star since and she possesses an effortless "cool" factor that will be relevant among the teenage/young-adult demographic for a long time. Drake will remain a staple for some time next decade but he'll slow down by the mid-2020's especially when the genre climate changes once again and Hip-Hop/Urban-Contemporary music is no longer as dominant on streaming services. He may follow a legacy similar to Eminem or Jay-Z's though and still be a big album seller well into his late 30's/40's.
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Post by chartfreak on Aug 28, 2019 15:28:43 GMT -5
So, Taylor might not go on an all-stadium tour for Lover. Quotes from her interview with Ryan Seacrest. “I was so full-on planning this album release and directing the videos and putting all these different clues in these videos and trying to make this album release experience the most fun one for my fans, that I didn’t wanna plan what we’re gonna do in terms of live and I don’t want to do the same thing every time because I don’t want my life to feel like I’m on a treadmill,” “Stadiums are fun,” she began. “Stadiums are amazing — I love stadiums, I just don’t know if we’re going to do the same thing as we did last time.” “My goal for whatever live setting that we decide to do things in, is gonna be to try to make it feel smaller like a living room.” www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-lover-tour-2020-877097/So a theater tour?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 15:43:02 GMT -5
the VMAs seemed to help Good as Hell a lot, its doing amazing #2 on iTunes #31 on Spotify (#18 w/o the Taylor tracks) #54 on AM (#29 w/o the Thug and Taylor songs) probably won't debut this week because of the Taylor songs, but probably will the following week are you sure they wont make an expection for this week since it gained a ton? I mean after all they allowed for a 3 year old song to chart for 20 weeks in the bottom 20
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Post by reputainbow on Aug 28, 2019 16:14:53 GMT -5
omg lizzo is super close. i would lovee to see 3 new #1s occur right after one another.
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Post by iHype. on Aug 28, 2019 17:18:05 GMT -5
In my opinion, Madonna is the only artist to truly ever be commercially successful, chart-wise, across almost two complete generations. After scoring her initial chart hits in 1982, she was still able to score hit songs and albums well after twenty years later: Music, Me Against The Music, Hung Up/Confessions era, 4 Minutes etc. Elton John is another from his debut in the early 1970's to his hits scored in the 1990's, and semi-international hits scored in the 2000's. To be fair, all of Madonna's 2000s output in America ranged from moderately successful to a complete flop. None of it was half as big as her peak albums. If that counts as being successful across two generations then Eminem's Revival & Kamikaze, Jay-Z's Magna Carta & 4:44, MJ's History/Invincible, Beyonce's Lemonade (if you count Destiny's Child as her career debut), which were just moderately successful albums would also count as being successful once a new generation became primary consumers. Basically nobody has been able to continually release music and still be actually near/at their commercial peak after 15+ years. The only exceptions are people like Cher/Santana/etc but they were never consistently successful forces while young, flopped for decades even, then got a one-off at an older age.
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Post by yuh yuh on Aug 28, 2019 17:46:27 GMT -5
What do you guys think: will 7 rings survive and get its 32nd week,beating Bang Bang thus getting Ariana her longest charting song on BB Hot 100 this week?
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Post by Choco on Aug 28, 2019 17:49:43 GMT -5
I think it will survive but 32 weeks in the streaming age that is not that impressive. Not a dig against her, it's just the way the have handled her singles, specially recently, doesn't really allow for much chart longevity.
I hope it does because "Bang Bang" being her longest charting song is tragic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 18:13:08 GMT -5
what the record for most charting songs by a female artist in a week and could taylor break it this week?
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Post by kimberly on Aug 28, 2019 18:22:23 GMT -5
I think it will survive but 32 weeks in the streaming age that is not that impressive. Not a dig against her, it's just the way the have handled her singles, specially recently, doesn't really allow for much chart longevity. I hope it does because "Bang Bang" being her longest charting song is tragic. It's also harder for songs that start atop the chart to get much longevity, since it's only downhill from there. @drakeisskinny I believe the record belongs to Cardi B with 13 (week of Invasion of Privacy). Can't remember if Ariana tied it or was 1 shy of it. Beyonce had 12 with Lemonade. Most top 40 hits is Ariana for sure, though, as her entire album - "make up" was top 40 (11 tracks).
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 28, 2019 18:25:55 GMT -5
what the record for most charting songs by a female artist in a week and could taylor break it this week? it was Billie Eilish with 14 songs charting in a week. Back in April i think. Taylor probably will break it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 18:29:24 GMT -5
what the record for most charting songs by a female artist in a week and could taylor break it this week? it was Billie Eilish with 14 songs charting in a week. Back in April i think. Taylor probably will break it what did taylor get when speak now was relased? 12?
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 28, 2019 19:07:24 GMT -5
it was Billie Eilish with 14 songs charting in a week. Back in April i think. Taylor probably will break it what did taylor get when speak now was relased? 12? 11
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Post by mzumii on Aug 28, 2019 19:47:20 GMT -5
Post Malone having the yearly week out of the top 10 smh
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Post by livelightning on Aug 28, 2019 20:38:08 GMT -5
Wait what happened to the spelling is fun part in me?
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Post by Choco on Aug 28, 2019 21:01:54 GMT -5
Wait what happened to the spelling is fun part in me? ![](https://media3.giphy.com/media/CsyFeRxyH0um4/source.gif)
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Post by jeiboy on Aug 28, 2019 21:05:46 GMT -5
Omg Lizzo just released a TikTok video and an official dance version video for Truth Hurts
THIS BITCHHHH nnnn
She's perched like a vulture on how the race is so close
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Post by jeiboy on Aug 28, 2019 21:21:55 GMT -5
The dance video is only 45 seconds long lol
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Aug 28, 2019 22:05:43 GMT -5
The dance video is only 45 seconds long lol it still counts and that’s what matters lol
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Post by garrettlen on Aug 29, 2019 0:01:41 GMT -5
Why is he putting "Truth Hurts" at #1 if he's literally giving it the same amount of points as "Senorita"?
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Post by moonlite on Aug 29, 2019 0:03:31 GMT -5
Why is he putting "Truth Hurts" at #1 if he's literally giving it the same amount of points as "Senorita"? The numbers are rounded... they dont have the same exact number of points.
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Post by garrettlen on Aug 29, 2019 0:13:03 GMT -5
So it's not literally the same amount of points. Gotcha and thanks.
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Post by Choco on Aug 29, 2019 0:26:49 GMT -5
A cassette single literally made the difference between "bad guy" and "Señorita" a couple weeks ago. That's how competitive the top three is at the moment.
I think Simon probably did the math and came up with the same number for both but it's easy to see why he's giving Lizzo the edge: she's playing the chart game much better this week (understandably, because the other two contenders have reached #1 already).
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 29, 2019 1:20:48 GMT -5
VMAs Effect: iTunes, Apple Music, & Spotify It's been a little over 24 hours since the show ended, let's see how it's affecting things at the moment. Please note that Spotify is a daily chart instead of a continuous rolling chart like iTunes and Apple Music, meaning their charts are slower to reflect promo spots. The update for the next day. The effects are starting to wear off on iTunes and Apple Music, but we get to see the Spotify boosts today! ![](https://i.imgur.com/1OADlmj.png)
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 29, 2019 1:22:10 GMT -5
A cassette single literally made the difference between "bad guy" and "Señorita" a couple weeks ago. That's how competitive the top three is at the moment. I think Simon probably did the math and came up with the same number for both but it's easy to see why he's giving Lizzo the edge: she's playing the chart game much better this week (understandably, because the other two contenders have reached #1 already). Not to mention, even if they did end up tying in exact points, "Truth Hurts" would be #1 since it would have had the larger increase ("bullet"?) in points this week.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 29, 2019 1:25:43 GMT -5
Devil Marlena Nylund you're the one who has stuck to a particular narrative. I've thoroughly explained every single point I've made and my reasons for making said point(s) and you're right, there's absolutely nothing that needs to be explained any further. Certainly not from me.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 29, 2019 1:29:15 GMT -5
So, Taylor might not go on an all-stadium tour for Lover. Quotes from her interview with Ryan Seacrest. “I was so full-on planning this album release and directing the videos and putting all these different clues in these videos and trying to make this album release experience the most fun one for my fans, that I didn’t wanna plan what we’re gonna do in terms of live and I don’t want to do the same thing every time because I don’t want my life to feel like I’m on a treadmill,” “Stadiums are fun,” she began. “Stadiums are amazing — I love stadiums, I just don’t know if we’re going to do the same thing as we did last time.” “My goal for whatever live setting that we decide to do things in, is gonna be to try to make it feel smaller like a living room.” www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-lover-tour-2020-877097/So a theater tour? I don't see her going that small. I think she'll mix it up or do something similar to what Coldplay did where they played really small capacity venues in promotion of their ''Ghost Stories'' album and then went back to playing stadiums on their next album. I could see Taylor playing a lot of arenas and maybe a couple of stadiums for her Lover tour. I was looking forward to seeing her play a stadium show because I missed the reputation tour. I've seen her in arenas already.
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Post by kacpi on Aug 29, 2019 6:09:14 GMT -5
Lizzo's just come back to Apple Music's top 5 as Truth Hurts overtook Taylor's "Lover" there. I expected this song to rise after VMAs but I'd never thought it's gonna be THIS massive!
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 29, 2019 6:11:18 GMT -5
Just dont likevit when an artist releases a different video to help get a #1.
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Post by kacpi on Aug 29, 2019 6:19:35 GMT -5
Spotify numbers (five days of the tracking week): Truth Hurts - 5 982 097 streams (including the number of streams DaBaby remix had on the first day when it was in top 200), with remix probably ~6.4 million Señorita - 5 523 428 streams
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