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Post by dovahduck on Sept 16, 2019 16:15:17 GMT -5
It should be very interesting to see how new Adele and The Weeknd will perform. They should release any day now. I've been waiting for these two to drop all year... 😔 |
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 16, 2019 18:16:43 GMT -5
It should be very interesting to see how new Adele and The Weeknd will perform. They should release any day now. Reportedly Adele is following a similar launch schedule to 25. |
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Post by 85la on Sept 16, 2019 18:26:36 GMT -5
It should be very interesting to see how new Adele and The Weeknd will perform. They should release any day now. Reportedly Adele is following a similar launch schedule to 25. Hmm, late October then for first single and late November for the album. That's not "any day now." But yeah I am super excited for when she does release! The Weeknd I'm not so sure about. I like him too, but he's not in the same league as Adele and doesn't really have the same chances of success. |
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Post by whales10268 on Sept 17, 2019 7:28:21 GMT -5
The Weeknd will flop. Power is Power never charted despite Travis Scott, Lost in the Fire tumbled off the hot 100 in a few weeks, and nothing from his My Dear Melancholy EP caught on post debut week. Even Pray for Me is dismissed as a Starboy clone, despite being successful. He hasn’t had a well received smash since I Feel it Coming.
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Post by violentdreams on Sept 17, 2019 8:03:40 GMT -5
He also hasn't released an actual album since 2016. MDM was a gift to his fans who missed his older, less mainstream sound, it clearly wasn't designed to have smashes on it (and it still did 169k first week with six songs). Also, people liked Pray For Me otherwise it wouldn't have been a hit, so you pretty much undermined your entire argument by inserting your own opinion into it.
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Post by whales10268 on Sept 17, 2019 8:08:42 GMT -5
He also hasn't released an actual album since 2016. MDM was a gift to his fans who missed his older, less mainstream sound, it clearly wasn't designed to have smashes on it. Also, people liked Pray For Me otherwise it wouldn't have been a hit, so you pretty much undermined your entire argument by inserting your own opinion into it. Artists rarely go from flopping to successful just because what they release is an official album single. Lost in the Fire and Power is Power are definitely valid comparisons for how a new Weeknd single might do. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 17, 2019 8:12:07 GMT -5
Reportedly Adele is following a similar launch schedule to 25. Hmm, late October then for first single and late November for the album. That's not "any day now." But yeah I am super excited for when she does release! The Weeknd I'm not so sure about. I like him too, but he's not in the same league as Adele and doesn't really have the same chances of success. Odd because I could almost see his first single debuting higher than Adele’s. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 17, 2019 8:33:04 GMT -5
Hmm, late October then for first single and late November for the album. That's not "any day now." But yeah I am super excited for when she does release! The Weeknd I'm not so sure about. I like him too, but he's not in the same league as Adele and doesn't really have the same chances of success. Odd because I could almost see his first single debuting higher than Adele’s. There's a higher position than #1?  I'm not sure he will debut in the top 10. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 17, 2019 8:33:51 GMT -5
The Weeknd won’t do sh*t unless the new single is truly great.
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Post by moonlite on Sept 17, 2019 8:35:10 GMT -5
He also hasn't released an actual album since 2016. MDM was a gift to his fans who missed his older, less mainstream sound, it clearly wasn't designed to have smashes on it. Also, people liked Pray For Me otherwise it wouldn't have been a hit, so you pretty much undermined your entire argument by inserting your own opinion into it. Artists rarely go from flopping to successful just because what they release is an official album single. Lost in the Fire and Power is Power are definitely valid comparisons for how a new Weeknd single might do. Lol thinking that an actual single of his will flop because a barely promoted soundtrack song and a producer collab didn't do well is crazy. I'd be surprised if his first real single doesn't debut top 4-5 |
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Post by iggyamo on Sept 17, 2019 8:49:21 GMT -5
Artists rarely go from flopping to successful just because what they release is an official album single. Lost in the Fire and Power is Power are definitely valid comparisons for how a new Weeknd single might do. Lol thinking that an actual single of his will flop because a barely promoted soundtrack song and a producer collab didn't do well is crazy. I'd be surprised if his first real single doesn't debut top 4-5 I think his star power faded to the point where I wouldn’t be surprised if his singles perform like Single Again or Babushka Boi if they are well received, or continue like Power is Power, which I thought debuted low on the chart due to radio |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 17, 2019 8:57:35 GMT -5
Odd because I could almost see his first single debuting higher than Adele’s. There's a higher position than #1? I'm not sure he will debut in the top 10. No but number ones can have a very varied point tally. Will Adele have streaming on her side the way The Weeknd likely will? Will Adele have radio on her side instantly in week 1? Hello came out the same week as Bieber’s lead single to his last album and if I remember correctly, he had a higher radio total in that first week. A lot has changed since 25 came out. Granted, I was skeptical before that era as well and it was still massive but singles-wise I don’t think it’s a 100% sure bet. |
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Post by moonlite on Sept 17, 2019 8:58:50 GMT -5
Lol thinking that an actual single of his will flop because a barely promoted soundtrack song and a producer collab didn't do well is crazy. I'd be surprised if his first real single doesn't debut top 4-5 I think his star power faded to the point where I wouldn’t be surprised if his singles perform like Single Again or Babushka Boi if they are well received, or contribute like Power is Power, which I thought debuted low on the chart due to radio Lol Babushka Boi? You can't be serious. Thats kinda disrespectful to Abel lmao. Those songs debuted in the 60s... He's nowhere near as fallen off as Sean or Rocky. Just compare the social media activity those two get compared to him. An average tweet for him gets 100-300k likes. His album teaser pic had nearly 500k. Sean and Rocky struggle to get more than 50k likes on a tweet. |
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Sept 17, 2019 9:02:08 GMT -5
I'm sure Adele will debut high with her previous biggest sales and yes The Weeknd is a good question here, depends on what he will release.
But what about Charlie Puth, why "I Warned Myself" and "Mother" are underperforming? 😐
What about OneRepublic, "Wanted" and "Somebody to Love" which are high on iTunes. Could they chart?
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 17, 2019 9:13:51 GMT -5
I'm sure Adele will debut high with her previous biggest sales and yes The Weeknd is a good question here, depends on what he will release. But what about Charlie Puth, why "I Warned Myself" and "Mother" are underperforming? 😐 What about OneRepublic, "Wanted" and "Somebody to Love" which are high on iTunes. Could they chart? Charlie Puth was never a reliable hitmaker. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 9:36:50 GMT -5
cant believe this abel slander i’m seeing
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Post by Gary on Sept 17, 2019 10:01:39 GMT -5
Not sure but it appears Most of the chartbeat articles have been locked down to just subscribers
I can get in because I am a subscriber but is anyone else having issues?
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 17, 2019 10:19:38 GMT -5
Not sure but it appears Most of the chartbeat articles have been locked down to just subscribers I can get in because I am a subscriber but is anyone else having issues? Yes. It says "Sorry, only for Billboard Pros" |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Sept 17, 2019 10:25:34 GMT -5
^Yeah. I see the article for Sucker hitting #1 in Hot AC as Pro-locked down ...
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Post by jebsib on Sept 17, 2019 10:27:33 GMT -5
LMAO! Time to pony up that $300 a year, guys!
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Sept 17, 2019 10:39:30 GMT -5
^So, it seems this was their plan, all along.
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Post by iggyamo on Sept 17, 2019 10:44:40 GMT -5
It’s open for free for me on mobile
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 17, 2019 10:52:15 GMT -5
Random.
From observing the ‘Chart Beat - Hot 100’ records, I feel as though their are two of which won’t be surpassed (anytime soon) and they’re both currently set by Whitney Houston.
1) The most simultaneous weeks at number one on both the Hot 100 and BB200.
I Will Always Love You + The Bodygaurd OST: 12 consecutive weeks
2) The most consecutive number one singles.
Whitney Houston: 7.
It took almost 25 years for a song to finally surpass 16 weeks at number one... it’s been 30+ years & 25+ years respectively and still no artist has surpassed Houston’s.
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Post by kacpi on Sept 17, 2019 10:52:29 GMT -5
Hello came out the same week as Bieber’s lead single to his last album and if I remember correctly, he had a higher radio total in that first week. Hello was #11 on the radio in just 7 days and already reached the top of the airplay chart in less than four weeks. Sorry was #50 after its first week. |
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Post by Gary on Sept 17, 2019 10:56:43 GMT -5
It’s open for free for me on mobile I just tried on mobile - some are free some are blocked to just subscribers |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 17, 2019 10:59:41 GMT -5
Hello came out the same week as Bieber’s lead single to his last album and if I remember correctly, he had a higher radio total in that first week. Hello was #11 on the radio in just 7 days and already reached the top of the airplay chart in less than four weeks. Sorry was #50 after its first week. Oh, maybe it was first day hahaha. And maybe it was just pop radio lol |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Sept 17, 2019 11:05:23 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/09/17
1(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 150.02(+1.14)
2(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Señorita(147.41)
3(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 129.81(-0.90)
4(=) Khalid - Talk 127.70(-1.42)
5(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 107.73(+0.34)
6(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 107.13(+1.68)
7(=) Billie Eilish - bad guy 98.35(-0.99)
8(+1) Post Malone - Goodbyes (feat. Young Thug) 88.31(+1.49)
9(-1) Shawn Mendes - If I Can't Have You 87.60(-2.29)
10(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 84.91(-0.56)
12(=) Ed Sheeran - Beautiful People (feat. Khalid) 69.06(+0.85)
13(=) Ariana Grande & Social House - Boyfriend 65.49(+1.00)
17(+1) Jonas Brothers - Only Human 57.28(+1.03) 18(-1) Dierks Bentley - Living 57.27(+1.00)
28(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Hot Girl Summer (feat. Nicki Minaj & Ty Dolla $ign) 44.31(+0.94) 30(+1) Carrie Underwood - Southbound 43.00(+1.09)
33(+2) Cole Swindell - Love You Too Late 40.18(+1.06)
36(+1) Chris Janson - Good Vibes 38.93(+0.90)
37(+1) Post Malone - Circles 38.80(+1.39) 39(=) Matt Stell - Prayed for You 38.47(+1.20) 40(+2) Megan Thee Stallion - Cash S**t (feat. DaBaby) 37.52(+0.94)
53(+1) Wale - On Chill (feat. Jeremih) 30.13(+0.82) 96(+5) Camila Cabello - Liar 16.99(+1.45)
-(-) Halsey - Graveyard 6.71(+1.24)
-(-) Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus & Lana Del Rey - Don't Call Me Angel (Charlie's Angels) 6.33(+1.09)
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 17, 2019 11:12:34 GMT -5
There's a higher position than #1? I'm not sure he will debut in the top 10. No but number ones can have a very varied point tally. Will Adele have streaming on her side the way The Weeknd likely will? Will Adele have radio on her side instantly in week 1? Hello came out the same week as Bieber’s lead single to his last album and if I remember correctly, he had a higher radio total in that first week. A lot has changed since 25 came out. Granted, I was skeptical before that era as well and it was still massive but singles-wise I don’t think it’s a 100% sure bet. Skyfall was released in digital era (2012) and we had no clue about Adele's streaming numbers. But...she scored 61 million streams and 1,1 million copies in 2015, where 25 million streams and 400k copies were huuuuge. Also, she entered top 10 on radio in its 11th day. We'll see, but I think she can score huge numbers again. |
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Post by Lukas on Sept 17, 2019 11:27:46 GMT -5
Not sure but it appears Most of the chartbeat articles have been locked down to just subscribers I can get in because I am a subscriber but is anyone else having issues? Yeah. Aside from the Hot 100, Billboard 200, and Artist 100 charts, all of the articles related to those charts, and all of the year-end charts, everything else relating to charts appears to be locked to only subscribers. That said, some of the current charts can still be accessed using bdsradiocharts. |
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Post by tanooki on Sept 17, 2019 11:55:47 GMT -5
They also still have yet to update the GOAT list on the "Greatest of All Time" chart while getting rid of the interactive 60th anniversary chart
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