Billboard Hot 100: 10/5/19

[Mayman]

Sept 22, 2019 16:43:30 GMT -5 ddlz said:

The reason why Goodbyes and Circles are flopping is because they're truly terrible, overly generic radio songs. It has nothing to do with the timing or overexposure.

Post's fans are simply noticing that he's starting to sound like Maroon 5 knockoff and they're not liking it.

Yet you've been supporting the artist behind these "generic" songs that are "flopping" for years. He's done the sound of "Goodbyes" and "Circles" countless of times before, so the sudden switch just looks like you want attention.

Anyway yes having four songs in the top 10 at once is most definitely flopping. Whatever will Post do after this?!

[moonlite]

Yea Goodbyes and Circles aren't doing as well as they should be. I don't know why his team felt like they had to do 3 album eras back to back to back with nearly no breaks in between. It doesn't matter tho because this album will still have crazy longevity of his feature on that Swae Lee song alone.

[violentdreams]

Sept 22, 2019 16:43:30 GMT -5 ddlz said:

The reason why Goodbyes and Circles are flopping is because they're truly terrible, overly generic radio songs. It has nothing to do with the timing or overexposure.

Post's fans are simply noticing that he's starting to sound like Maroon 5 knockoff and they're not liking it.

Goodbyes is literally a BB&B leftover and Circles sounds more like an indie pop song from earlier this decade. Idk where you're getting Maroon 5 from either of those songs.

[Au$tin]

"Goodbyes" and "Circles" aren't flopping just because they aren't hitting the heights of "rockstar" or "Sunflower," take your weird ass Kim Jong-un gifs somewhere else.

[ddlz]

A quick look at Hollywood's Bleeding reviews:

His music has never sounded less like rap music than it does on Hollywood’s Bleeding.

Malone’s connection to rap is more tenuous than ever.

With Hollywood’s Bleeding he has delivered his Californication, a stack of hits (and misses) that showcase his versatility and fully transcend his native radio format.

I'm not gonna argue with you Mayman . Not over something so stupid and obvious. 

[violentdreams]

BB&B had the song Stay, an acoustic ballad with no rapping whatsoever on it. It also had the song Over Now, a borderline rock song with live drumming on it. What does this amount to? You're too mentally weak to handle critics not liking the new Post album and assume that it's because he switched up too much even though it contains about as much experimenting as his last album. The sooner you accept that your hatred is because of your own shortcomings as a person, the sooner you can move on and stop using these threads as a tool to obsess about an artist you supposedly hate but can't shut the fuck up about.

[ddlz]

Sept 22, 2019 19:30:50 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

You're too mentally weak to handle critics not liking the new Post album

Yep, that's it! 

[Mayman]

Sept 22, 2019 19:24:11 GMT -5 ddlz said:

A quick look at Hollywood's Bleeding reviews:

His music has never sounded less like rap music than it does on Hollywood’s Bleeding.

Malone’s connection to rap is more tenuous than ever.

With Hollywood’s Bleeding he has delivered his Californication, a stack of hits (and misses) that showcase his versatility and fully transcend his native radio format.

I'm not gonna argue with you Mayman . Not over something so stupid and obvious. 

But those are just small quotes from for the most part positive reviews. And let's state the obvious, Post has never consistently made hip-hop/rap music. Sure he has a few trap/hip-hop leaning songs here or there, but most of his music and style has been pop. What's the difference now than when he had hits with "I Fall Apart", "Candy Paint",  "Psycho", "Better Now", and "Sunflower"? 

[gabe]

not saying i enjoy post's music/this album but why does his album have to be rap???

[Deleted]

Honestly, is this album really even flopping? Sure, most of the singles haven’t performed as well on their own, but to compensate, there seems to be more of them performing pretty well this time. This album’s had, what, 4 singles so far having decent top 10 runs already? Could be even more than that later on.

[spicymapping]

Yeah, can we stop calling albums that are absolutely massive flops? We did the exact same shit with More Life and then suddenly Scorpion became what it was. It's going to get 4 or even 5 year-end songs where BB&B only got 3. It has one of the 100 biggest songs of all time. It's not a flop.

[Gary]

An album can be a hit even without songs on the year end charts - anyway the singles are starting to fall back a bit because the album has been out a week.

THIS IS NORMAL for albums of this type where every song charts in the first week.

The actual hits from this album will still be here a month from now.

[ddlz]

Sept 22, 2019 19:48:34 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Sept 22, 2019 19:24:11 GMT -5 ddlz said:

A quick look at Hollywood's Bleeding reviews:

I'm not gonna argue with you Mayman . Not over something so stupid and obvious. 

But those are just small quotes from for the most part positive reviews. And let's state the obvious, Post has never consistently made hip-hop/rap music. Sure he has a few trap/hip-hop leaning songs here or there, but most of his music and style has been pop. What's the difference now than when he had hits with "I Fall Apart", "Candy Paint",  "Psycho", "Better Now", and "Sunflower"? 

One big difference is that Post's new music increasingly lacks the charm and spontaneousness that made much of his old hits so listenable. It's just not fun anymore, it's only bland radio music. Other difference is that in the past, when he was flirting with other genres, he was doing it from trap perspective. Now that he's getting rid of trap and taking flirtation to a whole new level, it just sounds bad to me. 

Back to my original post. I saw people discussing Goodbyes and Circles and jumped in with my own opinion on those two singles. That shouldn't be a problem. I should be able to post and criticize the artists, even those that I support and like, as many times as I want. It's not attention seeking, just disappointment.

[Mayman]

Sept 22, 2019 21:33:01 GMT -5 ddlz said:

Sept 22, 2019 19:48:34 GMT -5 Mayman said:

But those are just small quotes from for the most part positive reviews. And let's state the obvious, Post has never consistently made hip-hop/rap music. Sure he has a few trap/hip-hop leaning songs here or there, but most of his music and style has been pop. What's the difference now than when he had hits with "I Fall Apart", "Candy Paint",  "Psycho", "Better Now", and "Sunflower"? 

One big difference is that Post's new music increasingly lacks the charm and spontaneousness that made much of his old hits so listenable. It's just not fun anymore, it's only bland radio music. Other difference is that in the past, when he was flirting with other genres, he was doing it from trap perspective. Now that he's getting rid of trap and taking flirtation to a whole new level, it just sounds bad to me. 

Back to my original post. I saw people discussing Goodbyes and Circles and jumped in with my own opinion on those two singles. That shouldn't be a problem. I should be able to post and criticize the artists, even those that I support and like, as many times as I want. It's not attention seeking, just disappointment.

It does feel like you're seeking attention when people are discussing the performance of a couple of songs and you jump in and cite your personal opinions as why they're "flopping" or underperforming. 

[ddlz]

Sept 22, 2019 21:47:00 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Sept 22, 2019 21:33:01 GMT -5 ddlz said:

One big difference is that Post's new music increasingly lacks the charm and spontaneousness that made much of his old hits so listenable. It's just not fun anymore, it's only bland radio music. Other difference is that in the past, when he was flirting with other genres, he was doing it from trap perspective. Now that he's getting rid of trap and taking flirtation to a whole new level, it just sounds bad to me. 

Back to my original post. I saw people discussing Goodbyes and Circles and jumped in with my own opinion on those two singles. That shouldn't be a problem. I should be able to post and criticize the artists, even those that I support and like, as many times as I want. It's not attention seeking, just disappointment.

It does feel like you're seeking attention when people are discussing the performance of a couple of songs and you jump in and cite your personal opinions as why they're "flopping" or underperforming. 

They think the singles are not performing up to standard because the artist is overexposed, while I think it's because they're terrible songs. Let's leave it at that and move on. Definitely not worth fighting over.

[owenlovesmusic]

both Circles and Goodbyes are great songs

[Future Captain]

Idc about Goodbyes but Circles is Post's best song period. I think he could use a bit of a break, though I won't be surprised if he decided to go circa late 2000s Rihanna and release an album every year.

[kcdawg13]

ddlz you need to go outside, jesus christ, it isn't that serious. Honestly. 

You act like these musicians like Post or Maroon 5 killed your family. And honestly, not just for you, but I'm sick of the huge circlejerks here on Pulse against artists like Ed Sheeran or Maroon 5 or Imagine Dragons. Sometimes it feels like I'm on stan twitter.

[aussie1]

Has Post Malone ever been a rapper or did everyone just put that title on him?

[Enigma.]

HB is doing as well as BB&B on charts, I have no idea where this discussion comes from. Sure, Better Now was slightly bigger than what Circles is now but for a position or two.

ddlz is just mad that his fave artist is evolving which seems to me that he likes the IDEA of Post Malone more than his music.

[moonlite]

Sept 22, 2019 23:27:04 GMT -5 aussie1 said:

Has Post Malone ever been a rapper or did everyone just put that title on him?

He and his team put that title on him by doing stuff like uploading his albums on streaming as hip hop/rap albums or submitting Sunflower as a rap song at the Grammys

[rfucom]

Sept 23, 2019 0:21:50 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

HB is doing as well as BB&B on charts, I have no idea where this discussion comes from. Sure, Better Now was slightly bigger than what Circles is now but for a position or two.

ddlz if just mad that his fave artist is evolving which seems to me that he likes the IDEA of Post Malone more than his music.

What if ddlz is Post Malone and we throw all his trash talks to him. Man-up man. Be happy for someone else success and just leave the hate.

[rfucom]

Sept 22, 2019 23:15:09 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

ddlz you need to go outside, jesus christ, it isn't that serious. Honestly. 

You act like these musicians like Post or Maroon 5 killed your family. And honestly, not just for you, but I'm sick of the huge circlejerks here on Pulse against artists like Ed Sheeran or Maroon 5 or Imagine Dragons. Sometimes it feels like I'm on stan twitter.

Frankly i prefer posers who respond to logic and not those with blind loyalties.

[kierz7]

Sept 22, 2019 23:15:09 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

ddlz you need to go outside, jesus christ, it isn't that serious. Honestly. 

You act like these musicians like Post or Maroon 5 killed your family. And honestly, not just for you, but I'm sick of the huge circlejerks here on Pulse against artists like Ed Sheeran or Maroon 5 or Imagine Dragons. Sometimes it feels like I'm on stan twitter.

Exactly.

It "isn't" that serious.

So, why do we need to dictate to people what they should or shouldn't say on this forum, and the extent of which they say it?

If that other users comment become a problem... I'm sure the MODERATORS will take care of it.

Moreover, this is a forum where people are allowed to share their opinions, no matter how distasteful. He isn't being discriminatory in any way, so who gives a f*ck what he does.

Scroll past the comments and move on!

:sip2:

[jayhawk1117]

Sept 22, 2019 13:10:54 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Sept 22, 2019 10:37:19 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

That's so.... disappointing

Edit - the no guidance back at number one thing

How/why is it disappointing?

cuz Chris is human feces but like that's just me

[thegreatdivine]

We need to stop doing this thing where we attack people for expressing how they feel about a musician or their music. That's exactly what this forum is for.

Sept 22, 2019 16:43:30 GMT -5 ddlz said:

The reason why Goodbyes and Circles are flopping is because they're truly terrible, overly generic radio songs. It has nothing to do with the timing or overexposure.

Post's fans are simply noticing that he's starting to sound like Maroon 5 knockoff and they're not liking it.

ddlz expressed his opinion about Post Malone's music and while I don't agree with it, there was absolutely no reason for anyone to jump to calling him mentally weak, saying he has shortcomings or saying he hates Post Malone. He's already acknowledged that he's a fan, but a fan who is displeased with the direction he went for his latest effort. I'm sure he's not the only Post Malone fan who feels that way. He just happens to be the only one on this forum who feels that way and is making it known.

We can all discuss things, even things we don't agree on, without resorting to insults or name-calling. All it takes is for one person to start and for the next person to follow and that kind of energy isn't needed here.

It's safe to assume all of us here are music lovers, which is why we dedicate time out of our lives to come on here and have discussions about music.

If someone says something you don't agree with or something you know engaging with will lead to an argument, you can simply skip over their post or better yet start up another discussion that other people can join in on.

I don't think it's okay that sometimes people get attacked or called names for simply expressing their opinions. That has got to stop.

[mzumii]

Sept 22, 2019 16:43:30 GMT -5 ddlz said:

The reason why Goodbyes and Circles are flopping is because they're truly terrible, overly generic radio songs. It has nothing to do with the timing or overexposure.

Post's fans are simply noticing that he's starting to sound like Maroon 5 knockoff and they're not liking it.

I lose brain cells everytime I see you say something about Post

[Deleted]

me, still trying to figure out what universe Circles/Goodbyes/Hollywood's Bleeding is flopping in

I want to go to that universe bc clearly people are still buying albums like it's 1999 there

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[renfield75]

I think Post sees the trap bubble is about to burst and he's trying to navigate himself into the possible trends of the '20s. We'll see if he's successful at that.