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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 18:33:31 GMT -5
can you guys give me some examples of #1’s sampling other #1’s thanks x The only ones i know are Will Smith's Wild Wild West sampling Stevie Wonder's "I Wish", and Monica's "The First Night" sampling Diana Ross' "Love Hangover" |
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Post by garrettlen on Sept 23, 2019 19:31:09 GMT -5
Just a pet peeve of mine but the correct date for this week should be 10/5/19.
Billboard weeks always end on Saturday.
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Post by nathanalbright on Sept 23, 2019 19:35:08 GMT -5
Poor Mobey.  He had some hits once upon a time with Southside, We Are All Made Of Stars, and Body Rock......oh wait, wrong Moby. |
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Post by whales10268 on Sept 23, 2019 19:43:24 GMT -5
Trap music already peaked last year. All the biggest hits this year have been hip hop/pop hybrids, like 7 Rings, Old Town Road, Bad Guy, Truth Hurts, Wow., Goodbyes, or just straight pop, like Shallow, Sucker, Happier, High Hopes, Me!, Senorita, You Need To Calm Down, I Don’t Care, etc. The only huge straight rap hits are Ransom, No Guidance, Suge and Mobey in The Grave. The biggest rap artists didn't put out albums this year. That's the only reason why it seems like (t)rap music has slowed down. Let's revisit this discussion next year. Who didn’t drop this year that’s that big besides Drake and Kendrick? Migos are done, as is Lil Uzi Vert, Lil Baby isn’t that big, 6ix9ine and Lil Pump are definitely fads, Cardi B is already flopping with Please Me and Press disappointing and tanking respectively |
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Post by mzumii on Sept 23, 2019 19:51:44 GMT -5
The biggest rap artists didn't put out albums this year. That's the only reason why it seems like (t)rap music has slowed down. Let's revisit this discussion next year. Who didn’t drop this year that’s that big besides Drake and Kendrick? Migos are done, as is Lil Uzi Vert, Lil Baby isn’t that big, 6ix9ine and Lil Pump are definitely fads, Cardi B is already flopping with Please Me and Press disappointing and tanking respectively 6ix9ine is not a fad lmao, easily one of the most talked about artists of the past 2 years and if he was out of prison he'd be making hits |
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Post by whales10268 on Sept 23, 2019 20:02:05 GMT -5
Who didn’t drop this year that’s that big besides Drake and Kendrick? Migos are done, as is Lil Uzi Vert, Lil Baby isn’t that big, 6ix9ine and Lil Pump are definitely fads, Cardi B is already flopping with Please Me and Press disappointing and tanking respectively 6ix9ine is not a fad lmao, easily one of the most talked about artists of the past 2 years and if he was out of prison he'd be making hits Everyone hates his music, people only listen to him ironically. Mark my words he won’t have another hit, he was only successful as a novelty. |
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Post by renfield75 on Sept 23, 2019 20:11:15 GMT -5
can you guys give me some examples of #1’s sampling other #1’s thanks x The only ones i know are Will Smith's Wild Wild West sampling Stevie Wonder's "I Wish", and Monica's "The First Night" sampling Diana Ross' "Love Hangover" One of the biggest ever: Diddy's "I'll Be Missing You" sampling the Police's "Every Breath You Take". The 11 week run of Diddy's #1 plus the 8 week run of EBYT gives the original hook recording 19 weeks on top. |
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Post by moonlite on Sept 23, 2019 20:16:30 GMT -5
The biggest rap artists didn't put out albums this year. That's the only reason why it seems like (t)rap music has slowed down. Let's revisit this discussion next year. Who didn’t drop this year that’s that big besides Drake and Kendrick? Migos are done, as is Lil Uzi Vert, Lil Baby isn’t that big, 6ix9ine and Lil Pump are definitely fads, Cardi B is already flopping with Please Me and Press disappointing and tanking respectively Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick, Meek, Travis, Kanye. Lil Uzi certainly isn’t done lmao. Migos havent dropped anything for you to declare that they’re done either. 6ix9ine is a fad? You must have missed him being the most talked about thing this past week. |
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Post by whales10268 on Sept 23, 2019 20:33:23 GMT -5
Who didn’t drop this year that’s that big besides Drake and Kendrick? Migos are done, as is Lil Uzi Vert, Lil Baby isn’t that big, 6ix9ine and Lil Pump are definitely fads, Cardi B is already flopping with Please Me and Press disappointing and tanking respectively Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick, Meek, Travis, Kanye. Lil Uzi certainly isn’t done lmao. Migos havent dropped anything for you to declare that they’re done either. 6ix9ine is a fad? You must have missed him being the most talked about thing this past week. None of these acts are guaranteed to be huge other than Drake and Kendrick, they all have like one big hit and a bunch of smaller hits, or they pollute the hot 100 during album bomb week and tumble off week 2. J. Coles first song to last was Middle Child. Travis I think will be big when he returns, but Sicko Mode will be hard to duplicate. Migos hasn’t come close to Bad and Boujee, they got a few top 10 hits off their last album but nothing close to that. |
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Post by moonlite on Sept 23, 2019 20:47:34 GMT -5
Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick, Meek, Travis, Kanye. Lil Uzi certainly isn’t done lmao. Migos havent dropped anything for you to declare that they’re done either. 6ix9ine is a fad? You must have missed him being the most talked about thing this past week. None of these acts are guaranteed to be huge other than Drake and Kendrick, they all have like one big hit and a bunch of smaller hits, or they pollute the hot 100 during album bomb week and tumble off week 2. J. Coles first song to last was Middle Child. Travis I think will be big when he returns, but Sicko Mode will be hard to duplicate. Migos hasn’t come close to Bad and Boujee, they got a few top 10 hits off their last album but nothing close to that. They're all guaranteed to have bigger eras than the vast majority of pop artists out there. Then when you add in Drake and Kendrick, they clearly would dominate over any genre out there. Dumb to think hip hop has peaked. |
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Post by chanman on Sept 23, 2019 20:49:49 GMT -5
The only ones i know are Will Smith's Wild Wild West sampling Stevie Wonder's "I Wish", and Monica's "The First Night" sampling Diana Ross' "Love Hangover" One of the biggest ever: Diddy's "I'll Be Missing You" sampling the Police's "Every Breath You Take". The 11 week run of Diddy's #1 plus the 8 week run of EBYT gives the original hook recording 19 weeks on top. Ed Sheeran "Shape of You" sampling TLC "No Scrubs" |
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Post by korbel16 on Sept 23, 2019 20:52:55 GMT -5
One of the biggest ever: Diddy's "I'll Be Missing You" sampling the Police's "Every Breath You Take". The 11 week run of Diddy's #1 plus the 8 week run of EBYT gives the original hook recording 19 weeks on top. Ed Sheeran "Shape of You" sampling TLC "No Scrubs" i still think it was just a coincidence that it sounded similar..not really a sample .. he just didn’t want to go to court i feel like |
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Post by whales10268 on Sept 23, 2019 20:53:06 GMT -5
None of these acts are guaranteed to be huge other than Drake and Kendrick, they all have like one big hit and a bunch of smaller hits, or they pollute the hot 100 during album bomb week and tumble off week 2. J. Coles first song to last was Middle Child. Travis I think will be big when he returns, but Sicko Mode will be hard to duplicate. Migos hasn’t come close to Bad and Boujee, they got a few top 10 hits off their last album but nothing close to that. They're all guaranteed to have bigger eras than the vast majority of pop artists out there. Then when you add in Drake and Kendrick, they clearly would dominate over any genre out there. Dumb to think hip hop has peaked. It won’t go away, but I don’t think we’re going to have a year where hip hop dominates from January all the way to September again for a few years. |
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Post by Choco on Sept 23, 2019 20:58:34 GMT -5
I love how some people bash pop stars for "flopping" and talk about Lil Uzi Vert having a bigger era guaranteed yet the biggest albums of the year are by Taylor Swift, Post Malone, Billie Eilish, Khalid and Ariana Grande. All charted within top 10 on Pop radio this year.
Maybe you guys need to check out a few other playlists outside of Rap Caviar.
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Post by moonlite on Sept 23, 2019 21:10:26 GMT -5
I love how some people bash pop stars for "flopping" and talk about Lil Uzi Vert having a bigger era guaranteed yet the biggest albums of the year are by Taylor Swift, Post Malone, Billie Eilish, Khalid and Ariana Grande. All charted within top 10 on Pop radio this year. Maybe you guys need to check out a few other playlists outside of Rap Caviar. Wait pop stars chart higher than rappers on pop radio? Wow thats shocking news. Like I said, obviously pop artists will take up the majority of 2019’s biggest albums list when the biggest rappers to drop in 2019 are Juice Wrld and Young Thug. Pop should be happy that the majority of rap’s stars decided to take the year off |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 23, 2019 21:16:12 GMT -5
The only ones i know are Will Smith's Wild Wild West sampling Stevie Wonder's "I Wish", and Monica's "The First Night" sampling Diana Ross' "Love Hangover" One of the biggest ever: Diddy's "I'll Be Missing You" sampling the Police's "Every Breath You Take". The 11 week run of Diddy's #1 plus the 8 week run of EBYT gives the original hook recording 19 weeks on top. In a tie for the record with the hook from Old Town Road 😢 |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 23, 2019 21:16:47 GMT -5
6ix9ine is a fad? You must have missed him being the most talked about thing this past week. Where? Other than this post and the one you quoted. |
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Post by 85la on Sept 23, 2019 21:28:19 GMT -5
If I could comment on the Post Malone-rap debate, it seems that the "hip-hop/rap" label is most often used to categorize him, and although "hip-hop" and "rap" are very closely related, they are actually two different things, and that it would still be fair to label him a "hip-hop" artist even if he doesn't rap. According to the Oxford dictionary, rap is defined as "words that are recited rapidly and rhythmically over a prerecorded, typically electronic instrumental backing," so even if Post doesn't do this in any of his songs (which I can't verify because I haven't listened to all of his songs released), could he not still be labeled a "hip-hop" artist, which his type of urban/street-style singing could be categorized as?
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Post by moonlite on Sept 23, 2019 21:34:18 GMT -5
Where? Other than this post and the one you quoted. On any news site or any social media platform. He testified in a trial this week and a lot of stuff came out of it. Just search him on Google News or Twitter |
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Post by 4rch1m3d35 on Sept 23, 2019 21:52:41 GMT -5
6ix9ine sang a lot this week and I bet he won't be dropping another dime any time in the near or distant future.
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Post by jeiboy on Sept 23, 2019 21:56:30 GMT -5
Lizzo releasing a KPOP Remix of Truth Hurts tonight
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 23, 2019 22:00:49 GMT -5
Where? Other than this post and the one you quoted. On any news site or any social media platform. He testified in a trial this week and a lot of stuff came out of it. Just search him on Google News or Twitter If I have to search him, it kind of defeats the purpose eh? |
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Post by moonlite on Sept 23, 2019 22:05:26 GMT -5
On any news site or any social media platform. He testified in a trial this week and a lot of stuff came out of it. Just search him on Google News or Twitter If I have to search him, it kind of defeats the purpose eh? Not necessarily? Maybe you live in a bubble and don't follow pop culture. I didn't say it was the biggest story of all time and everyone knew about it.... Either way, 6ix9ine was the biggest story of the last few days, at least in pop culture/entertainment news/social media. |
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Post by lazer on Sept 23, 2019 22:35:03 GMT -5
Travis Scott, J Cole, 21 Savage, and Kendrick Lamar will probably have their next big eras. Drake, I’m not so sure, he has definitely been overexposed in recent years. Migos are most likely done at this point. Their gimmicky ad-libs and triplet flows will certainly not make Migos instant hit-makers. Lil Pump was definitely a fad, a ridiculous and brain cell killing fad indeed. Although 6ix9ine was talked about a lot this week, his credibility is nonexistent at this point, many people call him a snitch.
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Post by moonlite on Sept 23, 2019 22:49:11 GMT -5
^ Drake has been “overexposed” litterally his entire career. Why would that suddenly hinder him now from having another huge era? If anything the opposite should be happening to him considering that he’s having arguably the quietest year of his career
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Post by violentdreams on Sept 23, 2019 23:08:45 GMT -5
There are a ton of big name artists that drop way more frequently than Drake. The only reason he gets called out on here for "overexposure" is because he's one of few only artists the world stops to hear new music from (or even old music as he has proven this year with So Far Gone, Care Package, and Behind Barz). The fact is, he isn't spamming the music world with songs, he's simply so huge that everything he drops manages to be an event.
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Post by violentdreams on Sept 23, 2019 23:40:04 GMT -5
With that being said though, I think one actual victim of overexposure is the Migos. Their hype deflated the moment people heard how bloated and mediocre Culture 2 was, and they went on to drop completely boring solo albums that proved how much they flounder without each other to bounce off of. People might still have an appetite for Migos, but they'll never get back to Culture levels of hype.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 24, 2019 0:58:27 GMT -5
Travis Scott, J Cole, 21 Savage, and Kendrick Lamar will probably have their next big eras. Drake, I’m not so sure, he has definitely been overexposed in recent years. Migos are most likely done at this point. Their gimmicky ad-libs and triplet flows will certainly not make Migos instant hit-makers. Lil Pump was definitely a fad, a ridiculous and brain cell killing fad indeed. Although 6ix9ine was talked about a lot this week, his credibility is nonexistent at this point, many people call him a snitch. So, you're certain that all the other rappers you mentioned will have their next big eras, but Drake, the biggest and most consistent commercial force as a rap artist of the last 10 years, won't? What makes you believe he's been overexposed the last few years? He's literally been the most consumed act in the US since 2015. Why would you think that would suddenly stop next year? There's actual anticipation for new Drake music as it is. As for Migos, I can agree with the person who said they'll never be as big as they were when they dropped Culture, but all it takes is for one song off their next album to connect and they'll have another hit. I definitely don't think they've lost their hit-making powers. We also have to actually wait and see what happens next year. This time last year, who could have imagined how big Billie would have gotten in 2019. Also, with most of the biggest pop stars dropping projects this year, you can almost be certain that 2020 will be a more quiet year for pop music than 2019 was. I just don't want to see any complaints about rap running the year when it starts like I did in 2018 because you can rest assured that it'll happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 0:59:39 GMT -5
Uzi definitely isn’t over. His album is probably one of the most anticipated in Hip Hop atm. His singles tend to not have great debuts because he’s awful at promoting, and has released all 3 of them since LIR2 halfway through the Tracking Week (New Patek was Sunday, Sanguine Paradise/That’s A Rack were released Monday I think, without even being mixed properly, which probably drew away some initial streams).
As far as other artists go, 6IX9INE definitely is not a fad. I’m pretty sure FEFE was the biggest selling hit of 2018, and DUMMY BOY had a lot of single potential too if he didn’t get locked up (I’m sure MAMA would have went Top 10 if the video dropped around release time). He’s easily one of the most talked about artists of the past year, and saying he’s a fad means clearly you haven’t spent time on social media in the past year. He’s exploited it very well to get to the state he was. Now, will he be big when he gets out? Definitely. Will he have longevity in the industry? Probably not, he’s lost all his credibility from this situation, but he’ll also have a lot of hype surrounding him when he gets out.
Drake, Kendrick, Kanye, Wayne, Cole and Travis will have big eras whenever they drop (this year or not). 21, Carti and DaBaby will have decent sized eras. Lil Pump was definitely a fad, at least 6IX9INE was smart and exploited social media to keep his career big. Migos aren’t done, but they’ve definitely reached their peak, but I think they’ll have a decent era, albeit worse than their previous. You also have people like A Boogie who have room to grow, and definitely have mainstream appeal. You also then have people like Young Thug / Future / Gunna / Lil Baby who have strong fan bases, and can probably drop another hit if they choose the right single.
I also think it’s worth noting that the amount of new “soundcloud” rappers making the YE feels like far more. NLE Choppa, Calboy, Polo G, Lil TJay, DaBaby, Lil Tecca, YNW Melly, Flipp Dinero, Megan Thee Stallion, YK Osiris if you wanna count him, Blueface, etc.
Anyways, this is just my 2 cents about trap atm. I honestly don’t think it’s peaked, I think we’re just heavily lacking in any major releases this year in comparison to last (we had Cole, Drake, Travis) like others have mentioned
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 24, 2019 1:12:46 GMT -5
Lil’ Uzi Vert is most DEFINITELY not over as a commercial act, nor has he peaked.
He is one of the very few 2010’s Rap acts that I genuinely enjoy. His new album is by far anticipated by Hip-Hop fans and Hip-Hop critics alike.
As for 6IX9INE... LMAO.
That Man has lost all sense of credibility within the Hip-Hop community (not that he ever had it in the first place) and his new album (whenever that’s released) will more than likely trashed by the media. That said, I have no doubt that many of his “fans” will run to heavily stream it.
Drake, J.Cole, Kendrick Lamar, Travis Scott, 21 Savage etc. will all have big eras with their new solo projects, to varying degrees of success. More than likely, as it’s always been throughout this decade, Kendrick Lamar will receive the most acclaim and be religiously praised by music critics alike and win the most awards, whereas Drake will see the most commercial (streaming/chart) success.
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