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Post by Carriefan1190 on Apr 27, 2020 9:32:37 GMT -5
So, this song seemed to be just moving along nicely, and all of a sudden it’s struggling. I’m hoping Capitol can manage a top 10 peak at least to finish off the era, but more than likely this will be the first Carrie album era without a #1 country airplay single.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 9:56:51 GMT -5
Am I the only one not panicking about this single’s chart performance? It’s sitting at #12 on Mediabase. It’ll most likely crack the Top 10 within the week and continue chugging along from there. Even if it hasn’t connected all too well with listeners, it would be intellectually dishonest to claim that it hasn’t charted well thus far. Set aside the number of weeks on the chart and focus solely on its current position, and it’s not an abject disappointment. “Drinking Alone” will at minimum have a Top 10 finish, and personally I think it’ll push into the Top 5.
It’s a moot point anyway, considering that whenever the lead single from CU7 impacts, it’ll gain traction right out of the gate. Carrie Underwood is still the biggest female artist in the format.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 27, 2020 22:50:58 GMT -5
Kind of annoyed that this still has not re-entered the Hot Country Songs chart. Hopefully if/when it hits the Hot 100 it finally re-enters.
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Post by Khia on Apr 27, 2020 23:19:44 GMT -5
Kind of annoyed that this still has not re-entered the Hot Country Songs chart. Hopefully if/when it hits the Hot 100 it finally re-enters. That's incredibly strange that it's not charting. Is it somehow considered a recurrent? I don't know how that's possible considering it hasn't made the Hot 100.
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Post by Marv on Apr 28, 2020 0:55:03 GMT -5
Sitting at #12 after 22 weeks on CT40 is pretty mundane so she won't have any trouble reaching the top 10 late next month.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 4:24:25 GMT -5
All things considered, it’s treading water pretty gracefully for a single where the promotional strategy was, “Let’s just see what happens.”
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Post by recordyear on Apr 28, 2020 6:13:51 GMT -5
All things considered, it’s treading water pretty gracefully for a single where the promotional strategy was, “Let’s just see what happens.” Pretty sure she has performed this song on TV shows (CMA Awards, ACM special) for promotions. Heck it even got a decent MV. Monsters on the other hand has that promotional strategy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 8:59:47 GMT -5
All things considered, it’s treading water pretty gracefully for a single where the promotional strategy was, “Let’s just see what happens.” Pretty sure she has performed this song on TV shows (CMA Awards, ACM special) for promotions. Heck it even got a decent MV. Monsters on the other hand has that promotional strategy. Touting a song through the awards circuit isn’t the height of good promo and the music video did nothing to catapult the song further. It feels quite low-effort on UMG’s part. That’s the common refrain of this album era thus far.
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Post by sjadeupdate on Apr 28, 2020 9:11:56 GMT -5
#2 (+2) on the Billboard Bubbling Under this week. Maybe it will debut on the Hot 100 next week.
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Post by raylatch98 on May 3, 2020 16:56:36 GMT -5
Moves up 1 to #11 on Mediabase with a solid bullet of 221, and assuming Carrie Underwood can hold off Keith Urban (I do think Sam Hunt will pass her sometime next week) she should hit Top 10 on Mediabase this next week when Ingrid Andress falls below and Gabby Barrett goes recurrent.
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Post by SHOOTER on May 4, 2020 3:14:44 GMT -5
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Post by Crimsonio on May 5, 2020 3:22:09 GMT -5
Debuts at #97 on the Billboard Hot 100!
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Post by Juanca on May 5, 2020 11:32:54 GMT -5
Congrats on her 37th hot 100 charter! It was about time
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 11:54:50 GMT -5
As of 5/5/2020 at 11:54 am CST, "Drinking Alone" and Sam Hunt's "Hard to Forget" are separated by a mere eight (8!) spins, and he has outpaced her to #11 on the Mediabase chart. Regardless of the artists/songs, seeing a margin that negligible make such a significant impact is incredible.
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Post by lady𝓐fan on May 8, 2020 22:22:31 GMT -5
It’s asinine that Billboard still hasn’t let “Drinking Alone” back on HCS, but in better news this should go top 10 on Sunday! That would make it the fourth top 10 hit from Cry Pretty (LW went top 10 on Mediabase), which isn’t a bad way to end off what could’ve been a disastrous album cycle.
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Post by thewp on May 9, 2020 6:26:02 GMT -5
It’s asinine that Billboard still hasn’t let “Drinking Alone” back on HCS, but in better news this should go top 10 on Sunday! That would make it the fourth top 10 hit from Cry Pretty (LW went top 10 on Mediabase), which isn’t a bad way to end off what could’ve been a disastrous album cycle. Why do you say it could have been a disastrous album cycle? Like, before it started or how it’s ended? I still think radio is doing this song dirty 😔
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Post by raylatch98 on May 9, 2020 6:36:02 GMT -5
It’s asinine that Billboard still hasn’t let “Drinking Alone” back on HCS, but in better news this should go top 10 on Sunday! That would make it the fourth top 10 hit from Cry Pretty (LW went top 10 on Mediabase), which isn’t a bad way to end off what could’ve been a disastrous album cycle. Why do you say it could have been a disastrous album cycle? Like, before it started or how it’s ended? I still think radio is doing this song dirty 😔 I can't speak for lady𝓐fan but I imagine he thinks this era could have been a disaster given how much of a non hit both "Cry Pretty" and "Love Wins" were to start this era off and how this era could have easily had it to where we 1. Do not even get a fourth single or 2. Carrie Underwood has her first single to miss the Top 20 outright. I mean the fact that this era is probably going to end with all 4 singles being Top 10 on Mediabase is kind of shocking to an extent given how much the first two singles really underperformed and seemed to suck a lot of the momentum out of this era, as I can see a decent chunk of songs being released instead of "Southbound" killing the album era off at 3 singles.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 6:43:47 GMT -5
Why do you say it could have been a disastrous album cycle? Like, before it started or how it’s ended? I still think radio is doing this song dirty 😔 I can't speak for lady𝓐fan but I imagine he thinks this era could have been a disaster given how much of a non hit both "Cry Pretty" and "Love Wins" were to start this era off and how this era could have easily had it to where we 1. Do not even get a fourth single or 2. Carrie Underwood has her first single to miss the Top 20 outright. I mean the fact that this era is probably going to end with all 4 singles being Top 10 on Mediabase is kind of shocking to an extent given how much the first two singles really underperformed and seemed to suck a lot of the momentum out of this era, as I can see a decent chunk of songs being released instead of "Southbound" killing the album era off at 3 singles. I suppose the inconvenient truth here is that “Southbound” reached #1 on Mediabase, “Cry Pretty” and “Love Wins” we’re both Top 10 hits, and “Drinking Alone” hasn’t finished its run. It’s not much of a shock that the most prominent female artist in the format has had songs reach the Top 10. At all. There’s a lot more that contributes to success aside from callout scores and chart positions; it’s intellectually dishonest to view this matter as black-and-white.
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Post by taylor on May 9, 2020 12:09:32 GMT -5
I can't speak for lady𝓐fan but I imagine he thinks this era could have been a disaster given how much of a non hit both "Cry Pretty" and "Love Wins" were to start this era off and how this era could have easily had it to where we 1. Do not even get a fourth single or 2. Carrie Underwood has her first single to miss the Top 20 outright. I mean the fact that this era is probably going to end with all 4 singles being Top 10 on Mediabase is kind of shocking to an extent given how much the first two singles really underperformed and seemed to suck a lot of the momentum out of this era, as I can see a decent chunk of songs being released instead of "Southbound" killing the album era off at 3 singles. I suppose the inconvenient truth here is that “Southbound” reached #1 on Mediabase, “Cry Pretty” and “Love Wins” we’re both Top 10 hits, and “Drinking Alone” hasn’t finished its run. It’s not much of a shock that the most prominent female artist in the format has had songs reach the Top 10. At all. There’s a lot more that contributes to success aside from callout scores and chart positions; it’s intellectually dishonest to view this matter as black-and-white.It's shocking (at least to me) because bad single choices or underperformances kill momentum; just go back to 2010 and ask Reba McEntire. "Turn On The Radio" was a #1 hit for her and she was 55 at the time. That's RARE at country radio. Then when there was MUCH better options on the parent album for a second single...she chose "If I Were A Boy." It bombed and failed to hit the Top 20. She hasn't had a solo Top 20 hit since. Even for Carrie Underwood, this era easily could've been a nuclear bomb of a disaster--in terms of chart positions and callout scores. lady𝓐fan and raylatch98 weren't talking about the tour or the first-week success of the album. That alone makes this era incredible. But it still is shocking given how badly (by Carrie's standards) "Cry Pretty" and "Love Wins" both performed that 1) the latter song made the Top 10 on Mediabase, 2) Southbound hit #1 on Mediabase, and 3) "Drinking Alone" is hitting its stride...when anything other than "Southbound," even "End Up With You" (the only other song on the album that even closely sounds like something summery) could've easily killed the era's radio momentum entirely. I do believe if "Southbound" hadn't come out Carrie would've seen her first-ever single to miss the Top 20.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on May 9, 2020 12:14:55 GMT -5
So, does Capitol have a plan for this song, or are they just going to wait and see if she can make top 10, because she’s had some terrible spin updates over the last few days and songs below her are knocking on her door. I would hope that Capitol at least manages a top 10 for this. All I’m going to say is that the next album era better be solid, because the first two singles underperformed and it was only Southbound that guaranteed a 4th single.
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Post by jab820 on May 9, 2020 13:10:55 GMT -5
I agree with this. It's also important to note that this album era showed Carrie's first-ever single to miss the Top THREE.... with the lead, nonetheless. Yes, Carrie is looking to score four top 10's (and a #1) in this album era, but that is shocking considering she had genuinely never, ever missed the top 2 aside from "Something in the Water".
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Post by jenglisbe on May 9, 2020 15:21:18 GMT -5
So, does Capitol have a plan for this song, or are they just going to wait and see if she can make top 10, because she’s had some terrible spin updates over the last few days and songs below her are knocking on her door. I would hope that Capitol at least manages a top 10 for this. All I’m going to say is that the next album era better be solid, because the first two singles underperformed and it was only Southbound that guaranteed a 4th single. Yeah it's almost like they thought top 10 was a given, and now it's getting a little close for comfort.
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Post by raylatch98 on May 9, 2020 15:47:09 GMT -5
I mean unless Miranda Lambert surges tomorrow, "Drinking Alone" should enter the Top 10 on Mediabase tomorrow. Like I am confused where people are saying this all of a sudden may not hit the Top 10. I mean I guess this stands a somewhat decent shot of not being a Billboard Top 10, but barring something crazy this should enter the Mediabase Top 10 tomorrow.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 9, 2020 16:25:26 GMT -5
I mean unless Miranda Lambert surges tomorrow, "Drinking Alone" should enter the Top 10 on Mediabase tomorrow. Like I am confused where people are saying this all of a sudden may not hit the Top 10. I mean I guess this stands a somewhat decent shot of not being a Billboard Top 10, but barring something crazy this should enter the Mediabase Top 10 tomorrow. To be fair I haven't been watching closely, but looking at it right now "DA" only has a 19 spin gain for the week. Presumably it could even be negative for the week in tomorrow's update since it's been trending down. I'm confused as to how Keith is behind Miranda since he is ahead in both spins and impressions. Out of that, it would seem possible for Miranda to overtake Carrie because I have no idea how that works.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on May 9, 2020 19:00:58 GMT -5
It’s just that her bullet has been erratic over the last few days. She’s literally right on the outside looking into the top 10, so why not go for it? I’m hoping that her bullet gets better once she gets in the top 10 and starts getting those top 10 conversions, but Miranda, Eric and FGL are hot on her heels at this point in time.
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Post by raylatch98 on May 9, 2020 19:32:22 GMT -5
It’s just that her bullet has been erratic over the last few days. She’s literally right on the outside looking into the top 10, so why not go for it? I’m hoping that her bullet gets better once she gets in the top 10 and starts getting those top 10 conversions, but Miranda, Eric and FGL are hot on her heels at this point in time. Who's to say the label isn't trying to go for it, like the label is obviously still pushing this as much as they can. Most songs in this range (#9 to #12) when they are just around or outside the Top 10 they start to struggle a bit in this range of the charts (see Carly Pearce, Scotty McCreery, and Kenny Chesney with their latest singles). Also the callout scores have gotten a bit weaker as the negative rating is going up, and the favorite rating is going down. But the label is definitely trying here, just this is a song from an album era that started 2 years ago, the fourth single from said album, the song itself has never stood out in terms of sales, and callout scores are mediocre at best. Also I don't see how Eric Church and FGL are hot on her heels when she is at #11 and they are at #16 and #18 respectively (not to mention FGL being over 600 spins away). Like besides Miranda Lambert and maybe Justin Moore/FGL none of the songs in the #11 to #20 range are really moving that much, obviously Carrie Underwood is getting the worst of it but it's not like Keith Urban, Eric Church, or LoCash are really lighting the chart on fire this week.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 17:45:41 GMT -5
Officially Top 10 on Mediabase, as predicted. Now, the question is: How much farther can this train go? A Top 5 finish?
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Post by taylor on May 10, 2020 17:47:39 GMT -5
Officially Top 10 on Mediabase, as predicted. Now, the question is: How much farther can this train go? A Top 5 finish?I hold out hope for #1, even if it takes until June.
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Post by raylatch98 on May 10, 2020 17:53:40 GMT -5
Officially Top 10 on Mediabase, as predicted. Now, the question is: How much farther can this train go? A Top 5 finish?I hold out hope for #1, even if it takes until June. I mean she would probably have to gain 3500 spins to reach those levels and even in the best of weeks for "Drinking Alone" it does not signal it will hit #1. That and I do not see this hitting #1 at the end of June (7 weeks from now).
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Post by taylor on May 10, 2020 18:29:50 GMT -5
Damn. I'll stay cautious about it then, but I love the song and as long as it makes the Top 5 I'll be glad. Hell, I'm glad it made it this far and into the Top 10.
Here's to hoping the next era will go back to the Storyteller levels.
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