Billboard Hot 100: 12/21/2019

[kierz7]

Dec 9, 2019 15:55:25 GMT -5 candypaint said:

Dec 9, 2019 15:37:50 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

I’m not disagreeing with you, but...

How do we know he was trying to “quit” when it’s literally circulating on Twitter that he was snorting “substances” last week and apparently there’s several videos?

Who gives a s**t? He was a human being. Anybody who dies from the horrible disease that is addiction deserves to rest in peace. He wasn’t a murderer FFS. 

First of all:

Simmer the F*CK down! Seriously...

I wasn’t condoning nor making excuses for his death.

I simply posted that comment because another user posted that he was “trying to get clean”, however I’m currently seeing people on Twitter argue against that and are also posting videos of him drinking ‘lean’ and snorting what looks to be cocaine in a Club only (supposedly) last week and I was curious.

I know what drug addiction looks like.

I was an addict myself and I know EXACTLY how hard it is to break the cycle. I became estranged from a lot of my family because of it, but thank God I’ve been clean for 6 years now. Some aren’t so fortunate.

R.I.P JuiceWrld.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Just because most people know her for the song, doesn't mean she wasn't otherwise successful. She was the #42 Hot 100 Artist according to the last Greatest of All-Time update. The fact the people are too lazy to look up what she actually accomplished is mostly their own failure and the reason for their musical ignorance.

[kindofbiased]

Just gonna say if your reaction to someone dying at the age of 21 is “we shouldn’t be celebrating someone who made bad decisions” that says a lot more about you than the person who died

[eidde]

classic hot 100 threadery

[kindofbiased]

On a considerably lighter note I’m really glad to see America deciding that Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree is gonna be the second biggest Christmas hit of this year, it’s such a classic and so much fun it really deserves it

[kierz7]

Dec 9, 2019 16:35:33 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

^Just because most people know her for the song, doesn't mean she wasn't otherwise successful. She was the #42 Hot 100 Artist according to the last Greatest of All-Time update. The fact the people are too lazy to look up what she actually accomplished is mostly their own failure and the reason for their musical ignorance.

Exactly.

Brenda Lee was the biggest Female act of the 1960’s in the U.S, following the Supremes which puts her at number one in terms of solo Female acts.

“Rocking Around The Xmas Tree” was recorded and released when she was 13 and 14 respectively.

I’m not sure why some users are saying that she “isn’t on Mariah Carey’s level commercially speaking” when the 1950’s and to early-mid 1960’s were hardly the era of Physical sales domination. Even a hefty percentage of The Beatles sales came well after they peaked and broke up.

[renfield75]

Dec 9, 2019 16:42:40 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Dec 9, 2019 16:35:33 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

^Just because most people know her for the song, doesn't mean she wasn't otherwise successful. She was the #42 Hot 100 Artist according to the last Greatest of All-Time update. The fact the people are too lazy to look up what she actually accomplished is mostly their own failure and the reason for their musical ignorance.

Exactly.

Brenda Lee was the biggest Female act of the 1960’s in the U.S, following the Supremes which puts her at number one in terms of solo Female acts.

“Rocking Around The Xmas Tree” was recorded and released when she was 13 and 14 respectively.

I’m not sure why some users are saying that she “isn’t on Mariah Carey’s level commercially speaking” when the 1950’s and to early-mid 1960’s were hardly the era of Physical sales domination. Even a hefty percentage of The Beatles sales came well after they peaked and broke up.

Brenda Lee was an absolutely massive star, but the fact is she wasn't on Mariah's level commercially. Not in number of hits, albums sold, any discernible measure. I'm not sure why that bothers people. Prince has been my number one favorite artist since I was 9. He was an absolute legend with numerous awards, accolades, and accomplishments. One of the most successful acts of all time but he wasn't on the same commercial level as Michael Jackson. It's nothing to be upset about it's just a fact. It doesn't take away his accomplishments, just like not having 18 number one singles doesn't make Brenda Lee less of a legend. And bringing up that she's the #42 all-time Hot 100 artist proves my point: Mariah's in the top 5. Facts are facts...I hope people do their research and aren't ignorant about the success of either one of them.

Maybe stan culture has made us see everything as an attack. I meant no disrespect to Brenda Lee at all, I'm just being objective.

[Caviar]

So much disrespect and lite racism coming pulse as usual. When X died it was the same thing. When Mac Miller died..

Anyway. Hope Mariah gets the #1.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Dec 9, 2019 13:37:15 GMT -5 therealchrissyt said:

Lol @ people being so sad about his death.
Why are we celebrating someone who obviously died of a drug related seizure? It’s his own damn fault.

You’re an idiot

[Mayman]

Dec 9, 2019 13:37:15 GMT -5 therealchrissyt said:

Lol @ people being so sad about his death.
Why are we celebrating someone who obviously died of a drug related seizure? It’s his own damn fault.

Can you just go ahead and leave this site for good. As well as the two people who liked the post. Thanks.

[Kurt]

Hi. I know that generally, the Hot 100 threads aren't exactly a bastion of high-quality, respectful discussion, but if you can't discuss the charts and the events that impact them without even a modicum of basic decency and respect, please exit the thread.

For those of you who are capable of that, please consider using the report function to prevent dragging the thread too far off-topic.

[🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾]

Dec 9, 2019 13:37:15 GMT -5 therealchrissyt said:

Lol @ people being so sad about his death.
Why are we celebrating someone who obviously died of a drug related seizure? It’s his own damn fault.

You are absolutely disgusting and shameful. Please delete your account immediately.

[Deleted]

Dec 9, 2019 17:02:08 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Dec 9, 2019 16:42:40 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Exactly.

Brenda Lee was the biggest Female act of the 1960’s in the U.S, following the Supremes which puts her at number one in terms of solo Female acts.

“Rocking Around The Xmas Tree” was recorded and released when she was 13 and 14 respectively.

I’m not sure why some users are saying that she “isn’t on Mariah Carey’s level commercially speaking” when the 1950’s and to early-mid 1960’s were hardly the era of Physical sales domination. Even a hefty percentage of The Beatles sales came well after they peaked and broke up.

Brenda Lee was an absolutely massive star, but the fact is she wasn't on Mariah's level commercially. Not in number of hits, albums sold, any discernible measure. I'm not sure why that bothers people. Prince has been my number one favorite artist since I was 9. He was an absolute legend with numerous awards, accolades, and accomplishments. One of the most successful acts of all time but he wasn't on the same commercial level as Michael Jackson. It's nothing to be upset about it's just a fact. It doesn't take away his accomplishments, just like not having 18 number one singles doesn't make Brenda Lee less of a legend. And bringing up that she's the #42 all-time Hot 100 artist proves my point: Mariah's in the top 5. Facts are facts...I hope people do their research and aren't ignorant about the success of either one of them.

Maybe stan culture has made us see everything as an attack. I meant no disrespect to Brenda Lee at all, I'm just being objective.

Yeah, the fact The Beatles' have been selling consistently well for 50 years after their break-up and Brenda Lee's Christmas song is the only song people still associate with her (despite her massive success in the 60's) pretty much proves the original point.. nearly all artists fade from the public memory with time.

Remember that the Rock & Roll era has only existed for a little over 60 years.. that's a relatively short amount of time.. less than the average lifespan in the United States. If Mariah is only known for "All I Want For Christmas Is You" in 50 years, that would mean she'll probably be more remembered than 99% of her contemporaries. None of us know if in 100 years, anyone will be talking about or listening to the acts we're discussing now.

[nak]

If you only know Mariah for her Christmas music then you are an obese local.

[hydraflare]

Dec 9, 2019 13:37:15 GMT -5 therealchrissyt said:

Lol @ people being so sad about his death.
Why are we celebrating someone who obviously died of a drug related seizure? It’s his own damn fault.

Please delete your life

[willapted33]

i feel bad for the actual quality posters in chart discussion because i know you do exist

but this place radiates casual racism, disrespect, childish behaviour and other undesirable traits

to the person i quoted, the person who said that s**t about mariah and everyone who liked those two posts, i seriously would consider seeking mental help. it's not f**king normal, and it's definitely not okay. please, get some help.

edit: deleted my previous post because i'll probably get a warning about it, but hopefully that poster did see it 

[atg]

I don’t know why there are still insensitive people like honestly


I know nobody here truly personally knows each other or not all of us do but i hope everyone is well and if there is anybody you need to talk to, you can talk to me

Just know if you are experiencing problems physically, mentally or emotionally, and also mental health issues and other issues, remember that you are never alone in this and there is always a solution and help whenever. We’re all the same and we’re in this together

[jtd Thee Stallion]

It seems like the Christmas songs reentering are cancelling out Year-End countdown increases? Or am I tripping

[Au$tin]

Dec 9, 2019 19:14:45 GMT -5 jtd Thee Stallion said:

It seems like the Christmas songs reentering are cancelling out Year-End countdown increases? Or am I tripping

Really not much is happening yet with the year end lists. Apple's year end thing didn't cause much of a boost to the tracks in it on Apple Music. Spotify Wrapped, however, caused a pretty significant boost in many older tracks, but that won't be reflected until the next chart is released a week from today. And even then it's only just Spotify, so it won't be a massive change, especially when the Christmas songs are killing it in all platforms.

We won't really see much year end list action until after Christmas when AC kicks back into normal mode, sending their old-ass top songs skyrocketing in airplay and over New Year's while the other formats play their year end countdowns and everyone revisits past hits on streaming/digital sales.

[wavey.]

Holy fuck why is there always a reason these threads stay on the verge of getting locked?

[bbfan97]

I wonder how much YouTube Lucid Dreams got over today and yesterday...

[nlechoppa7]

Dec 9, 2019 10:35:58 GMT -5 bgood2me said:

It's really sad that this child is dead and may he rest in peace but it's really not festive that this is gonna keep Mariah from getting her multiple weeks at #1. Billboard needs to modify the rules. This is ridiculous.

The dude dies and you talking about how the rules should be changed so that he can't be the #1 hit. Kinda fucked up.

[atg]

Dec 9, 2019 19:57:31 GMT -5 nlechoppa7 said:

Dec 9, 2019 10:35:58 GMT -5 bgood2me said:

It's really sad that this child is dead and may he rest in peace but it's really not festive that this is gonna keep Mariah from getting her multiple weeks at #1. Billboard needs to modify the rules. This is ridiculous.

The dude dies and you talking about how the rules should be changed so that he can't be the #1 hit. Kinda f**ked up.

Don’t worry about them. These people only care about themself and what they want. Who cares if mariah gets to #1 or not, it’s not the end of the world if she doesn’t and its a seasonal charting song anyways it keeps getting higher each year. Things happen.

I’m sorry if i’m going off way too much with all these posts its just that a lot of things really need to be said

[violentdreams]

Dec 9, 2019 19:46:02 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Holy f**k why is there always a reason these threads stay on the verge of getting locked?

This still isn't quite as bad as when X died and SAD! was in contention to go #1 (I was a lurker back then but I still could see how much sheer animosity there was). Rapper deaths just bring the worst out of a vocal minority here. Most people here have been very respectful though.

[walt91]

Dec 9, 2019 13:37:15 GMT -5 therealchrissyt said:

Lol @ people being so sad about his death.
Why are we celebrating someone who obviously died of a drug related seizure? It’s his own damn fault.

the hot 100 thread is cancelled until further notice

[wavey.]

Dec 9, 2019 20:26:33 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

Dec 9, 2019 19:46:02 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Holy f**k why is there always a reason these threads stay on the verge of getting locked?

This still isn't quite as bad as when X died and SAD! was in contention to go #1 (I was a lurker back then but I still could see how much sheer animosity there was). Rapper deaths just bring the worst out of a vocal minority here. Most people here have been very respectful though.

It's literally the same thing.

[jdanton2]

difference between XXXTentacion and his song Sad and the Juice Wrld Lucid Dreams is that Sad was only a few months old when he died and had a less successful chart run. Lucid Dreams was released over 18 months ago and peaked at #2 on the Hot 100 and was the #12 song of 2018.Sad after debuting in March of 2018 and then a few weeks later peaked at #7 was #52 the chart week before he died.so Lucid Dreams might not benefit as much.

[mrricx]

Such lack of empathy here and that's honestly sad. People have really lost their compassion.

[Lukas]

Dec 9, 2019 20:55:50 GMT -5 jdanton2 said:

difference between XXXTentacion and his song Sad and the Juice Wrld Lucid Dreams is that Sad was only a few months old when he died and had a less successful chart run. Lucid Dreams was released over 18 months ago and peaked at #2 on the Hot 100 and was the #12 song of 2018.Sad after debuting in March of 2018 and then a few weeks later peaked at #7 was #52 the chart week before he died.so Lucid Dreams might not benefit as much.

How the songs did on the charts has nothing to do with our current issue here. Some of the events that occurred here just straight up shouldn't have, regardless of any form of chart success.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Dec 9, 2019 20:55:50 GMT -5 jdanton2 said:

difference between XXXTentacion and his song Sad and the Juice Wrld Lucid Dreams is that Sad was only a few months old when he died and had a less successful chart run. Lucid Dreams was released over 18 months ago and peaked at #2 on the Hot 100 and was the #12 song of 2018.Sad after debuting in March of 2018 and then a few weeks later peaked at #7 was #52 the chart week before he died.so Lucid Dreams might not benefit as much.

I just checked Spotify chart, and Lucid Dreams was #1 on Spotify the day XXXTentacion died..