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Post by renaboss on Dec 16, 2019 17:47:42 GMT -5
just noticed that none of songs in the top 10 has features when’s the last time this happened??? No features (including duets): 2019/04/13 No features & duets: 2012/12/15 1 - Diamonds Rihanna 2 Λ Locked Out of Heaven Bruno Mars 3 V Die Young Kesha 4 V One More Night Maroon 5 5 Λ Ho Hey The Lumineers 6 - Some Nights Fun 7 Λ Home Phillip Phillips 8 Λ I Cry Flo Rida 9 Λ Let Me Love You (Until You Learn to Love Yourself) Ne-Yo 10 V Gangnam Style Psy How were you able to track this down so quickly? |
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 16, 2019 17:48:05 GMT -5
Not surprised with the drop considering how close to Christmas we are. "Heartless" is quickly gaining on radio (#21 as of today) so I can see it going back inside of the top ten. Should be interesting to see how much of the top 20 is made out of Christmas songs.
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Post by davidjl123 on Dec 16, 2019 17:48:34 GMT -5
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Dec 16, 2019 17:49:23 GMT -5
I love how Mariah remembers that the song hit #9 and #3 before. Someone said she's a chart geek like us, which adds up with that iconic "back to the Hot 100 #1 which you just performed, which is hard to get, not everybody has that to their credit" moment. Wonder how close a watch she keeps on the charts nowadays. Mariah is very well known for being number/chart-centric. She still very much keeps on top of things like the Hot 100/Billboard 200. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 16, 2019 17:55:38 GMT -5
I love how Mariah remembers that the song hit #9 and #3 before. Someone said she's a chart geek like us, which adds up with that iconic "back to the Hot 100 #1 which you just performed, which is hard to get, not everybody has that to their credit" moment. Wonder how close a watch she keeps on the charts nowadays. I'm sure her team has been preparing statements/talking points for weeks now. |
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Post by earth on Dec 16, 2019 17:56:17 GMT -5
I won't be surprised if Heartless rebounds slowly kinda like sucker did. It's rising ridiculously fast on radio
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Post by feoba on Dec 16, 2019 17:59:18 GMT -5
Shocked about how big of a drop The Weeknd had. Saw a big drop coming though, the charts have been aiming in that direction for a while though. “HIGHEST IN THE ROOM” only had 3 weeks in the top 10. “BUWYG,IB” would have had 2 if it hit #1. “If I Can’t Have You”, & “You Need to Calm Down” all would’ve been the same if they hit #1. Not a big fan of all these singles debuting high (#1 or #2) and then dropping into the 20’s tbh. Hope something changes this. tbh, in "break up with your girlfriend i'm bored"'s case, if it had been released as a single outside of album release week, it probably would've been able to stuck around more. as for "highest in the room" and "heartless"… well, release better music True, she should’ve waited til 7 Rings died down a bit to release it & the album. As for the others I hope this trend starts to stop. A #1 hit only having a few weeks in the top 10 is not cute. |
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Post by Keelzit on Dec 16, 2019 18:05:04 GMT -5
Lol. Biggest drops and jumps are only for songs that stay on the chart. That’s like saying #1 debuts have the biggest jump to #1. Not the same at all actually. #1 debuts are usually songs that did not even exist the week prior so how could they possibly chart at all if they weren't even released yet? 1-OUT holds a lot more merit as a 'fall' because if the song is out then there's at least a chance for it to chart than a non-existent song to 'jump' from non-existence to the top. So yeah a 1-OUT scenario is definitely the biggest fall possible since the song's popularity actually did fall to obscurity. Congrats to Mariah. I'm so happy for her. 2019 did not disappoint at all when it comes to the Hot 100. We had literally everything happen this year. |
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Post by sirskimask on Dec 16, 2019 18:13:32 GMT -5
Yikes at Heartless. Double yikes for whenever we see where Blinding Lights is at.
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Post by kimberly on Dec 16, 2019 18:14:09 GMT -5
Lol. Biggest drops and jumps are only for songs that stay on the chart. That’s like saying #1 debuts have the biggest jump to #1. Not the same at all actually. #1 debuts are usually songs that did not even exist the week prior so how could they possibly chart at all if they weren't even released yet? 1-OUT holds a lot more merit as a 'fall' because if the song is out then there's at least a chance for it to chart than a non-existent song to 'jump' from non-existence to the top. So yeah a 1-OUT scenario is definitely the biggest fall possible since the song's popularity actually did fall to obscurity. Congrats to Mariah. I'm so happy for her. 2019 did not disappoint at all when it comes to the Hot 100. We had literally everything happen this year. In AIWFCIY's case it just means it dropped below No. 50, though, so it's going to have that asterisk there until a brand new song actually drops like 1-72 or something. |
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 16, 2019 18:18:24 GMT -5
Yikes at Heartless. Double yikes for whenever we see where Blinding Lights is at. Most likely out of the top 40 considering the bigger than expected drop for "Heartless" this week. Hopefully they'll start pushing it on radio in January after "Heartless" goes within top 15/10 and slows down a bit. |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Dec 16, 2019 18:25:17 GMT -5
Congrats Mariah! I'm so perplexed by people who want to create new rules about banning holiday songs. Aren't you all the same people who threatened riots over recurrency rules? Be consistent, people. I LOOOVE the Christmas chart season because the wave of festive holiday songs slaughters the old hits lingering below 30. Last year we lost “Havana” & “New Rules” before they reached 52 weeks, which hurt, but you win some, you lose some. Here’s a list of songs that were in the Top 50 pre-Mariah and have since been sacrificed in the name of Christmas cheer. • “You Need to Calm Down” - Taylor Swift, 21 weeks [2] • ”My Type” - Saweetie, 20 weeks [21] • “Sucker” - Jonas Brothers, 38 weeks [1] • “Money In The Grave” - Drake & Rick Ross, 23 weeks [7] • “Dancing With a Stranger” - Sam Smith & Normani, 45 weeks [7] • “One Thing Right” - Marshmello & Kane Brown, 23 weeks [36] • “Suge” - DaBaby, 35 weeks [7] • “Goodbyes” - Post Malone & Young Thug, 21 weeks [3] This isn’t even counting tomorrow’s chart. We’re possibly going to lose “Talk”, How Do You Sleep?”, “Baby”, “Time” and “I Don’t Care”. “Ransom”, “Beautiful People” & “Only Human” are also at risk, but less so than the songs above. How is this not exciting!?! AAAAHHH!! |
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Post by renaboss on Dec 16, 2019 18:31:52 GMT -5
Lol. Biggest drops and jumps are only for songs that stay on the chart. That’s like saying #1 debuts have the biggest jump to #1. Not the same at all actually. #1 debuts are usually songs that did not even exist the week prior so how could they possibly chart at all if they weren't even released yet? 1-OUT holds a lot more merit as a 'fall' because if the song is out then there's at least a chance for it to chart than a non-existent song to 'jump' from non-existence to the top. So yeah a 1-OUT scenario is definitely the biggest fall possible since the song's popularity actually did fall to obscurity. Congrats to Mariah. I'm so happy for her. 2019 did not disappoint at all when it comes to the Hot 100. We had literally everything happen this year. Not necessarily true. Adele's "Hello" debuted at #1 on the Hot 100 but it charted in Bubbling Under the week before. Edit: I just saw you said 'usually'. My bad. |
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Post by narp on Dec 16, 2019 18:33:25 GMT -5
Did Mariah just break the record for longest time taken for a song to reach number one (just over 25 years)?
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Post by renaboss on Dec 16, 2019 18:36:39 GMT -5
Did Mariah just break the record for longest time taken for a song to reach number one (just over 25 years)? She did. Though they undermined it a little in the article by mentioning all sorts of covers, remakes or samples that hit #1, like "La Bamba", "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me", or even fricking "7 Rings". |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Dec 16, 2019 18:42:42 GMT -5
Did Mariah just break the record for longest time taken for a song to reach number one (just over 25 years)? Among other records, yes! |
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Post by gabe on Dec 16, 2019 18:43:45 GMT -5
Did Mariah just break the record for longest time taken for a song to reach number one (just over 25 years)? She did. Though they undermined it a little in the article by mentioning all sorts of covers, remakes or samples that hit #1, like "La Bamba", "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me", or even fricking "7 Rings".you know it's iconic when it still gets them bitches talking!! |
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Post by slw84 on Dec 16, 2019 18:45:10 GMT -5
17 (-16) Heartless | The Weeknd Hold it against me won! No longer the biggest underperforming #1 per the Britney haters. Thanks Abel for taking this accolade from her. |
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Post by Lukas on Dec 16, 2019 18:49:12 GMT -5
Lol. Biggest drops and jumps are only for songs that stay on the chart. That’s like saying #1 debuts have the biggest jump to #1. Not the same at all actually. #1 debuts are usually songs that did not even exist the week prior so how could they possibly chart at all if they weren't even released yet? 1-OUT holds a lot more merit as a 'fall' because if the song is out then there's at least a chance for it to chart than a non-existent song to 'jump' from non-existence to the top. So yeah a 1-OUT scenario is definitely the biggest fall possible since the song's popularity actually did fall to obscurity. Congrats to Mariah. I'm so happy for her. 2019 did not disappoint at all when it comes to the Hot 100. We had literally everything happen this year. 1. Some #1 debuts actually get some charting points before they hit #1. If a song is at #101 on the Hot 100 (not charting) and then shoots up to #1 the next week, you’re implying that it had the biggest jump to #1 with your logic. 2. As someone else mentioned, how would you compare a 1-OUT in Mariah’s case to a song that dropped 1-72? We don’t know if Mariah’s song would end up at #51 or #100 had recurrence rules not existed, if it dropped from #1 off of the charts. In a similar way that “biggest downward movements” on the chart only encompass songs that stay on the chart, this should as well. Quit confusing “drop on the chart” to “drop off the chart”. |
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Post by Lukas on Dec 16, 2019 18:50:59 GMT -5
17 (-16) Heartless | The Weeknd Hold it against me won! No longer the biggest underperforming #1 per the Britney haters. Thanks Abel for taking this accolade from her. Its chart run is far from over. Don’t be so sure that it will underperform that much yet. |
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Post by Lukas on Dec 16, 2019 18:52:04 GMT -5
Not the same at all actually. #1 debuts are usually songs that did not even exist the week prior so how could they possibly chart at all if they weren't even released yet? 1-OUT holds a lot more merit as a 'fall' because if the song is out then there's at least a chance for it to chart than a non-existent song to 'jump' from non-existence to the top. So yeah a 1-OUT scenario is definitely the biggest fall possible since the song's popularity actually did fall to obscurity. Congrats to Mariah. I'm so happy for her. 2019 did not disappoint at all when it comes to the Hot 100. We had literally everything happen this year. Not necessarily true. Adele's "Hello" debuted at #1 on the Hot 100 but it charted in Bubbling Under the week before. Edit: I just saw you said 'usually'. My bad. You raise a good point actually. The argument for #1 debuts not having a huge jump only seems to work when it hasn’t charted previously, |
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Post by slw84 on Dec 16, 2019 18:53:32 GMT -5
Hold it against me won! No longer the biggest underperforming #1 per the Britney haters. Thanks Abel for taking this accolade from her. Its chart run is far from over. Don’t be so sure that will underperform that much yet, Too soon...could have let me stay in cloud nine for an hour. ;) |
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Post by Normi on Dec 16, 2019 19:01:34 GMT -5
Congrats Mariah, you can't pretend AIWFCIY is iconic and an amazing song even if you dislike its performance! Circles had its time (and might go #1 again after Xmas) so it's all deservant! I still need Rihanna to return soon and get closer to Mariah's records
I knew Dance Monkey would be Top 10! Congrats. How much further can it get? I predict a #6 peak but it might get even bigger
Lol at 1-17 for Heartless but the Weeknd won't cry over it, it's a #1 hit after all and will likely remain in the Top 20 for some time with Blinding Lights becoming a decent-sized Top 10 hit (just my prediction)
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Post by Keelzit on Dec 16, 2019 19:04:55 GMT -5
Not the same at all actually. #1 debuts are usually songs that did not even exist the week prior so how could they possibly chart at all if they weren't even released yet? 1-OUT holds a lot more merit as a 'fall' because if the song is out then there's at least a chance for it to chart than a non-existent song to 'jump' from non-existence to the top. So yeah a 1-OUT scenario is definitely the biggest fall possible since the song's popularity actually did fall to obscurity. Congrats to Mariah. I'm so happy for her. 2019 did not disappoint at all when it comes to the Hot 100. We had literally everything happen this year. 1. Some #1 debuts actually get some charting points before they hit #1. If a song is at #101 on the Hot 100 (not charting) and then shoots up to #1 the next week, you’re implying that it had the biggest jump to #1 with your logic. 2. As someone else mentioned, how would you compare a 1-OUT in Mariah’s case to a song that dropped 1-72? We don’t know if Mariah’s song would end up at #51 or #100 had recurrence rules not existed, if it dropped from #1 off of the charts. In a similar way that “biggest downward movements” on the chart only encompass songs that stay on the chart, this should as well. Quit confusing “drop on the chart” to “drop off the chart”. I see your argument but I think this is all too technical. Like let's say a 1-OUT scenario takes place. If that was my song the fact that it's not considered the biggest fall of all time in the books wouldn't console me for the undeniable reality that my song was the most popular the week before and all of a sudden s**t hit the fan and its popularity is not even detectable anymore. |
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Post by Lukas on Dec 16, 2019 19:08:46 GMT -5
1. Some #1 debuts actually get some charting points before they hit #1. If a song is at #101 on the Hot 100 (not charting) and then shoots up to #1 the next week, you’re implying that it had the biggest jump to #1 with your logic. 2. As someone else mentioned, how would you compare a 1-OUT in Mariah’s case to a song that dropped 1-72? We don’t know if Mariah’s song would end up at #51 or #100 had recurrence rules not existed, if it dropped from #1 off of the charts. In a similar way that “biggest downward movements” on the chart only encompass songs that stay on the chart, this should as well. Quit confusing “drop on the chart” to “drop off the chart”. I see your argument but I think this is all too technical. Like let's say a 1-OUT scenario takes place. If that was my song the fact that it's not considered the biggest fall of all time in the books wouldn't console me for the undeniable reality that my song was the most popular the week before and all of a sudden s**t hit the fan and its popularity is not even detectable anymore. The biggest drop off of the charts exist for that. Like, we have ground rules for what constitutes a jump or a debut. Dropping or falling off the charts should be no different. It’s pointless to quantity something that just can’t be quantified. |
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Post by divasummer on Dec 16, 2019 19:13:55 GMT -5
The fact all Mariah had to do was remove "We Belong Together" from iTunes for a week, and she'd have tied The Beatles in #1's. ("Shake It Off" would've joined her club) "Shake It Off" is literally one of her most iconic hits alongside "Obsessed" both deserved better  "Shake It Off" is not one of Mariah's most iconic hits even if she wants it to be. (she performed that live so much...) I love MiMi and I am a Mini Lamb but "Shake It Off" is not one of her iconic hits. Popular yes but "Vision Of Love, Hero, Fantasy, Always Be My Baby, All I Want For Christmas Is You and We Belong Together are "iconic" I guess. I wouldn't say "SIO" is at that level. |
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Post by candypaint on Dec 16, 2019 19:21:38 GMT -5
To think that Mariah is the reason for Rihanna starting a music career (Rihanna's words herself) and the two lead the pack for most #1's by women on the Hot 100. Queen and Princess of the Hot 100. It was destined to be.
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 16, 2019 19:24:55 GMT -5
Congrats Mariah, you can't pretend AIWFCIY is iconic and an amazing song even if you dislike its performance! Circles had its time (and might go #1 again after Xmas) so it's all deservant! I still need Rihanna to return soon and get closer to Mariah's records I knew Dance Monkey would be Top 10! Congrats. How much further can it get? I predict a #6 peak but it might get even bigger Lol at 1-17 for Heartless but the Weeknd won't cry over it, it's a #1 hit after all and will likely remain in the Top 20 for some time with Blinding Lights becoming a decent-sized Top 10 hit (just my prediction) If they push "Blinding Lights" on radio, it'll certainly reach the top ten once the album drops. Anyway, I'm hoping that Rihanna will finally drop some new music in 2020 too. I heard "Only Girl in the World" so many times over the weekend while playing GTA V and have had it stuck in my head since then. My desire for new Riri music is at an all time high! 🤞 |
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Post by Normi on Dec 16, 2019 19:28:15 GMT -5
This would be the chart without the Christmas songs
1. Circles -2 (+1) (3rd week at #1)
2. Someone you loved -3 (+1)
3. Good as hell -5 (+2)
4. Roxanne -6 (+2)
5. Memories -4 (-1)
6. Lucid Dreams -re
7. Dance Monkey -11 (+4)
8. BOP -10 (+2)
9. Bandit -31 (+22)
10. Lose you to love me -7 (-3)
11. 10.000 Hours -8 (-3)
12. Senorita -13 (+1)
13. Heartless -1 (-12)
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Post by crazyb on Dec 16, 2019 19:30:24 GMT -5
This chart week already has over 1000 replies wow.
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