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Post by Zeebz on Dec 20, 2019 14:09:45 GMT -5
Well, the 1/4/2020 thread is already off the rails.  |
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Post by Lukas on Dec 20, 2019 14:16:36 GMT -5
Does anyone know why the Spotify weekly charts seem to not follow the Spotify daily charts? By adding up the daily streams for 12/13/2019-12/19/2019, for example, I have FS2020 at around 12M, and the weekly chart says that it has 13M. Same thing with many of the other songs, which seem to have higher Spotify streams when done weekly than daily.
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Post by nathanalbright on Dec 20, 2019 14:19:30 GMT -5
Friendly reminder to keep this thread (as well as other Hot 100 threads) on topic, with discussion remaining tied to this current tracking week. If you see any off topic posts, remember to report those and as staff we will deal with them accordingly. In the meantime, you’re more than welcome to utilize the Hot 100 General Discussion thread (or, y’know, other more appropriate areas of the board) to post these off topic comments. Just because other people do it doesn’t mean you should too  Well, the 1/4/2020 thread is already off the rails. Why is this a surprise? Hasn't every thread gone off the rails recently? |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 20, 2019 14:30:24 GMT -5
Well, the 1/4/2020 thread is already off the rails. Why is this a surprise? Hasn't every thread gone off the rails recently? He didn't say it was a surprise. |
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Post by chanman on Dec 20, 2019 14:42:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I hope 2020 has big, eventful hits. This year only had Old Town Road, Bad Guy, and maybe Senorita. For sure Senorita as well as Sunflower, 7 Rings and Truth Hurts. This year had a string of hits for me...Sucker, Ransom, Circles, Sweet But Psycho. I really hope 2020 is as good as 2019 and not stuck to one dominant genre as in 2018. However, I prefer good quality songs. The only number one in 2019 that sucked for me was Highest in the Room. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Dec 20, 2019 15:58:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know why the Spotify weekly charts seem to not follow the Spotify daily charts? By adding up the daily streams for 12/13/2019-12/19/2019, for example, I have FS2020 at around 12M, and the weekly chart says that it has 13M. Same thing with many of the other songs, which seem to have higher Spotify streams when done weekly than daily. Could it be tied to Premium members who listen offline? I suspect those streams get recorded as plays after the user goes online again. I've had songs that I've saved and played, but had already been removed (I could tell from another device). Spotify still has to pay the royalties retroactively. That's leads me to believe they can only track when account is online. |
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Post by Lukas on Dec 20, 2019 16:03:22 GMT -5
Does anyone know why the Spotify weekly charts seem to not follow the Spotify daily charts? By adding up the daily streams for 12/13/2019-12/19/2019, for example, I have FS2020 at around 12M, and the weekly chart says that it has 13M. Same thing with many of the other songs, which seem to have higher Spotify streams when done weekly than daily. Could it be tied to Premium members who listen offline? I suspect those streams get recorded as plays after the user goes online again. I've had songs that I've saved and played, but had already been removed (I could tell from another device). Spotify still has to pay the royalties retroactively. That's leads me to believe they can only track when account is online. That might explain it, and I'm not saying that you're wrong. Though I don't know why FS2020 would be underrepresented by 1M streams and RATCT, for example, only about 100K streams in this scenario. In any case, though, Billboard will definitely use the weekly streams for their chart calculations. |
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Post by sirskimask on Dec 20, 2019 16:38:47 GMT -5
A song being shit doesn't determine whether it's impactful or not |
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Post by whales10268 on Dec 20, 2019 17:38:23 GMT -5
MTE! I feel as if the first few years of the 2020’s will be great, but bittersweet also in the sense that the acts we grew up with will eventually hit a wall and no longer be the forces we once knew ie. Rihanna, Adele, Drake, Taylor Swift etc. Of course, they could all follow Madonna’s footsteps and be slaying their 40’s/50’s etc. but she’s an anomaly in itself. P.S: Do we know if Drake plans to release a solo project next year, or 2021 perhaps? Wasn’t their a French SONY exec. who said (leaked info) that Rihanna, Drake etc. would be releasing in December? It was all over Twitter. Well... 💀 I don't think Drake will be slowing down anytime soon. He's still a major commercial force and the biggest streaming artist. He'll be releasing a new album next year. He's been working on it at his home studio in Toronto for several weeks now. I think his next album will be less successful than Scorpion singles wise. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 20, 2019 18:13:24 GMT -5
I don't think Drake will be slowing down anytime soon. He's still a major commercial force and the biggest streaming artist. He'll be releasing a new album next year. He's been working on it at his home studio in Toronto for several weeks now. I think his next album will be less successful than Scorpion singles wise. I don't know many artists who have had an album era score at least 7 top 10 hits and 3 #1 singles, yet alone 3 or more #1 singles that spent at least 29 weeks at #1. I'll be shocked if he ever sees that kind of success again. Still, he's still a major mainstream force and he'll still enjoy commercial success for years to come. That's my prediction. |
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Post by weirdo on Dec 20, 2019 18:39:12 GMT -5
I think Drake peaked with Scorpion for sure. I think Scorpion was Drake's Teenage Dream album, and his next album will be a Prism album: still a very successful album but nowhere near as successful as the last album
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Post by violentdreams on Dec 20, 2019 18:45:10 GMT -5
I would guess the same, but it was widely assumed that Drake had peaked with Views and there would be no direction to go but down from there. Well, three #1 singles later, he sure proved that wrong.
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Post by weirdo on Dec 20, 2019 19:03:44 GMT -5
I would guess the same, but it was widely assumed that Drake had peaked with Views and there would be no direction to go but down from there. Well, three #1 singles later, he sure proved that wrong. I agree that Drake could still suprise us all and go even bigger, but i feel like it wont go as good. 2018 did NOT have a lot of big releases. A few major artists released but alot of them, like Bruno Mars and Justin Timberlake, severely underperformed. It was the perfect tine to release. He was already big from 2015 and 2016, and he filled that hole that was in the market at the tome. Also, this came right after the brief death of Pop in late 2017, so Drake once again, filled the hole of new music that would usually be from pop stars Im not saying that all of Drake's success came from the release time. He clearly was just a BIG star at the time as well, but i think that releasing when the industry was in a slump and when a major genre of mudic died did help him make a big impact Fast forward to whwre we are now, and Pop has made a comeback, but with moee R&B & Rap influences. However,despite this, the industry is still in a slump and i'd say it has been in this slump ever since Rockstar hit #1 in 2017. However, i feel that 2020 will be a much stronger year then 2018 & 2019. I think alot of one hit wonders and viral hits will be big this year, and i think some of these new sounds and experimental music may end up shaping the first years of the decade. Drake never changes like other artists, i think when he releases again in 2020, the industry will be in a much different place from 2018. I think he will still get a #1 or two, but the ocerall impact of this new album will be a step down from Scorpion. In other words: Drake peaked with Scorpion, and although his next album will still be successful, every album from Scorpion will do slightly worse then the next, until rventually he will be more of a legacy figure then a major hitmaker for thw industry |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 20, 2019 19:09:33 GMT -5
I would guess the same, but it was widely assumed that Drake had peaked with Views and there would be no direction to go but down from there. Well, three #1 singles later, he sure proved that wrong. I agree that Drake could still suprise us all and go even bigger, but i feel like it wont go as good. 2018 did NOT have a lot of big releases. A few major artists released but alot of them, like Bruno Mars and Justin Timberlake, severely underperformed. It was the perfect tine to release. He was already big from 2015 and 2016, and he filled that hole that was in the market at the tome. Also, this came right after the brief death of Pop in late 2017, so Drake once again, filled the hole of new music that would usually be from pop stars Im not saying that all of Drake's success came from the release time. He clearly was just a BIG star at the time as well, but i think that releasing when the industry was in a slump and when a major genre of mudic died did help him make a big impact Fast forward to whwre we are now, and Pop has made a comeback, but with moee R&B & Rap influences. However,despite this, the industry is still in a slump and i'd say it has been in this slump ever since Rockstar hit #1 in 2017. However, i feel that 2020 will be a much stronger year then 2018 & 2019. I think alot of one hit wonders and viral hits will be big this year, and i think some of these new sounds and experimental music may end up shaping the first years of the decade. Drake never changes like other artists, i think when he releases again in 2020, the industry will be in a much different place from 2018. I think he will still get a #1 or two, but the ocerall impact of this new album will be a step down from Scorpion. In other words: Drake peaked with Scorpion, and although his next album will still be successful, every album from Scorpion will do slightly worse then the next, until rventually he will be more of a legacy figure then a major hitmaker for thw industry This is an awfully bold prediction. People were saying Drake had peaked commercially since as early as 2015. There are SEVERAL articles I can link you to that wrote about it. Then 2016 happened. A year where damn near every major artist dropped an album and Drake somehow managed to dominate over everyone. After the 2017 he had, again, somehow, people were convinced that he was over and then 2018 happened. Interestingly enough, Drake's career in the latter half of the decade, has grown directly proportional to the growth of streaming. 2019 was an off year for him and he outdid most artists. Look, no one is saying Drake will be this dominant of a mainstream force forever. No one ever is. I just think you're being too quick to come up with an idea of how his career will go. No one knows. Everyone's career ages differently. Drake has been successful since the start of his career, but in a lot of ways, it feels like he's just now getting into being massively successful, thanks to streaming. If rumors are to be believed, he's kicking off the new year with another collab project with Future before dropping his solo album. Let's wait till he kicks off 2020 to make certain statements, shall we? |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Dec 20, 2019 19:38:38 GMT -5
A song being s**t doesn't determine whether it's impactful or not But it does show that 2019 had no good hits |
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Post by weirdo on Dec 20, 2019 19:41:06 GMT -5
I agree that Drake could still suprise us all and go even bigger, but i feel like it wont go as good. 2018 did NOT have a lot of big releases. A few major artists released but alot of them, like Bruno Mars and Justin Timberlake, severely underperformed. It was the perfect tine to release. He was already big from 2015 and 2016, and he filled that hole that was in the market at the tome. Also, this came right after the brief death of Pop in late 2017, so Drake once again, filled the hole of new music that would usually be from pop stars Im not saying that all of Drake's success came from the release time. He clearly was just a BIG star at the time as well, but i think that releasing when the industry was in a slump and when a major genre of mudic died did help him make a big impact Fast forward to whwre we are now, and Pop has made a comeback, but with moee R&B & Rap influences. However,despite this, the industry is still in a slump and i'd say it has been in this slump ever since Rockstar hit #1 in 2017. However, i feel that 2020 will be a much stronger year then 2018 & 2019. I think alot of one hit wonders and viral hits will be big this year, and i think some of these new sounds and experimental music may end up shaping the first years of the decade. Drake never changes like other artists, i think when he releases again in 2020, the industry will be in a much different place from 2018. I think he will still get a #1 or two, but the ocerall impact of this new album will be a step down from Scorpion. In other words: Drake peaked with Scorpion, and although his next album will still be successful, every album from Scorpion will do slightly worse then the next, until rventually he will be more of a legacy figure then a major hitmaker for thw industry This is an awfully bold prediction. People were saying Drake had peaked commercially since as early as 2015. There are SEVERAL articles I can link you to that wrote about it. Then 2016 happened. A year where damn near every major artist dropped an album and Drake somehow managed to dominate over everyone. After the 2017 he had, again, somehow, people were convinced that he was over and then 2018 happened. Interestingly enough, Drake's career in the latter half of the decade, has grown directly proportional to the growth of streaming. 2019 was an off year for him and he outdid most artists. Look, no one is saying Drake will be this dominant of a mainstream force forever. No one ever is. I just think you're being too quick to come up with an idea of how his career will go. No one knows. Everyone's career ages differently. Drake has been successful since the start of his career, but in a lot of ways, it feels like he's just now getting into being massively successful, thanks to streaming. If rumors are to be believed, he's kicking off the new year with another collab project with Future before dropping his solo album. Let's wait till he kicks off 2020 to make certain statements, shall we? I know that people have been wrong about him before, but he has to peak at some point. Scorpion was one of the biggest albums of the decade. Thats not cery easy to replicate. Even Adele, wirh 25, still didnt quite reach the success of 21 |
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Post by m450n on Dec 20, 2019 19:43:48 GMT -5
A song being s**t doesn't determine whether it's impactful or not But it does show that 2019 had no good hits you love kanye, i don't think u have any say on determining if 2019 had any good hits or not. plenty of critically acclaimed singles and albums |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 20, 2019 19:49:36 GMT -5
weirdo I agree that he has to peak at some point. I guess I just have to wait to see it first.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 20, 2019 20:16:55 GMT -5
^Every artist needs to prove themselves all over again. Nothing is certain for sure.
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Post by shaz196 on Dec 20, 2019 20:31:22 GMT -5
No streaming songs chart update from HDD?
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Post by atg on Dec 20, 2019 20:32:16 GMT -5
I feel like Drake and Post Malone will be at a legendary standpoint for the newer generation in the following years. Artists like Ariana Grande, The Weeknd, Billie Ellish (maybe) and Shawn Mendes (maybe) would be able to be close to legend status, but not enough compared to the 2 smash hitmakers; similar to some of the 80s-90s acts that were huge but not as iconic as lets say Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Dec 20, 2019 20:52:50 GMT -5
But it does show that 2019 had no good hits you love kanye, i don't think u have any say on determining if 2019 had any good hits or not. plenty of critically acclaimed singles and albums wtf is that supposed to mean? Kanye is one of the most critically acclaimed artists of all time |
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Post by gregtwinner on Dec 20, 2019 20:53:39 GMT -5
I feel like Drake and Post Malone will be at a legendary standpoint for the newer generation in the following years. Artists like Ariana Grande, The Weeknd, Billie Ellish (maybe) and Shawn Mendes (maybe) would be able to be close to legend status, but not enough compared to the 2 smash hitmakers; similar to some of the 80s-90s acts that were huge but not as iconic as lets say Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston I can see Billie having the future career to go to legend level in the 2020s, Ariana is already there, and Weeknd will have the respect from many crowds, including his indie cred from Trilogy, to help cement his status so he might be up there too. No one will care about Shawn in 5 years |
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Post by chanman on Dec 20, 2019 20:55:46 GMT -5
A song being s**t doesn't determine whether it's impactful or not But it does show that 2019 had no good hits Go find a senorita... maybe you'll like the song |
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Post by moonlite on Dec 20, 2019 20:57:56 GMT -5
I feel like Drake and Post Malone will be at a legendary standpoint for the newer generation in the following years. Artists like Ariana Grande, The Weeknd, Billie Ellish (maybe) and Shawn Mendes (maybe) would be able to be close to legend status, but not enough compared to the 2 smash hitmakers; similar to some of the 80s-90s acts that were huge but not as iconic as lets say Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston I agree with most of this, but you lost me at Shawn Mendes You think Shawn "I love it when you call me Senorita" Mendes has legend potential? Im flabbergasted |
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Post by annoymous1 on Dec 20, 2019 21:01:39 GMT -5
Shawn won't be a "legend"(sorry to whoever is a fan of Shawn) though he has one good era and now he might be a "legend" he's very middle of the road at best and hasn't done anything that I or we haven't seen before.
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Post by atg on Dec 20, 2019 21:14:38 GMT -5
I feel like Drake and Post Malone will be at a legendary standpoint for the newer generation in the following years. Artists like Ariana Grande, The Weeknd, Billie Ellish (maybe) and Shawn Mendes (maybe) would be able to be close to legend status, but not enough compared to the 2 smash hitmakers; similar to some of the 80s-90s acts that were huge but not as iconic as lets say Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston I agree with most of this, but you lost me at Shawn Mendes You think Shawn "I love it when you call me Senorita" Mendes has legend potential? Im flabbergasted Hey hey in all fairness i said maybe. I’m talking in terms of success on the charts mainly ik i’m using the term ‘legend’ loosely but yea. And who knows if he could all prove us wrong |
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Post by Mayman on Dec 20, 2019 21:54:11 GMT -5
But it does show that 2019 had no good hits you love kanye, i don't think u have any say on determining if 2019 had any good hits or not. plenty of critically acclaimed singles and albums Actually, you don't have any say to tell someone that their opinion is wrong, especially like that. Take several seats. |
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Post by m450n on Dec 20, 2019 22:09:41 GMT -5
you love kanye, i don't think u have any say on determining if 2019 had any good hits or not. plenty of critically acclaimed singles and albums wtf is that supposed to mean? Kanye is one of the most critically acclaimed artists of all time tell me where i came for his artistry? i agree kanye is a talent artist (from 2004-2013) but now... anyways saying 2019 didn't have any good hits just clearly shows that ur taste in music is stuck in the past. |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Dec 20, 2019 22:18:09 GMT -5
wtf is that supposed to mean? Kanye is one of the most critically acclaimed artists of all time tell me where i came for his artistry? i agree kanye is a talent artist (from 2004-2013) but now... anyways saying 2019 didn't have any good hits just clearly shows that ur taste in music is stuck in the past. I thought 2019 had many good albums and songs just not the popular ones. Sorry for thinking the boring, basic formulated Senorita was garbage. |
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