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Post by allow that on Jan 2, 2020 11:44:44 GMT -5
Interesting question. I see that is the version being played on radio. Although I would like to see ROSALIA finally get onto the Hot 100, I don't think the remix will get credited even with radio play. A similar thing happened when the Bieber remix for bad guy came out: it got streams and radio play but he wasn't credited, similar case for Kendrick and his Mask Off remix. I feel the only time a remix will be credited is if it fully eclipses the original in terms of popularity and longevity like with Despacito, Bad Blood and I Took a Pill in Ibiza. Or if you're Beyonce and you can demand it. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 2, 2020 11:46:33 GMT -5
^Or face the wrath of an angry Beyhive.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 2, 2020 12:00:15 GMT -5
Will whatever song is at #58 this week have a bullet? Without Holiday Songs I think the chart will look something like this: 01. Circles 02. ROXANNE 03. Someone You Loved 04. Memories 05. Good As Hell 06. The Box 07. Dance Monkey 08. 10,000 Hours 09. Lose You to Love Me 10. Ballin' 11. BOP 12. bad guy 13. No Guidance 14. Señorita 15. Bandit 16. Panini 17. Hot 18. Old Town Road (Remix) 19. Truth Hurts 20. HIGHEST IN THE ROOM Thanks! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 12:03:40 GMT -5
How is Writing On The Wall rising up on Spotify? Streaming farms?
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Post by kacpi on Jan 2, 2020 12:15:52 GMT -5
How is Writing On The Wall rising up on Spotify? Streaming farms? I think it blew up on TikTok, but oh boy... It jumped from #48 to #21 on last day's US Spotify chart, I'm scared. Y'all were just talking about Cardi not killing it anymore and there she goes with another successful feature, if that obviously holds up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 12:36:34 GMT -5
At first I thought you were referring to Sam Smith's "Writing On The Wall", but then I remembered that the French Montana/Post Malone/Cardi B collab was a thing, and that it surprisingly flopped despite the names attached. Never too late for a revival, I guess. 😄
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 12:37:48 GMT -5
How is Writing On The Wall rising up on Spotify? Streaming farms? I think it blew up on TikTok, but oh boy... It jumped from #48 to #21 on last day's US Spotify chart, I'm scared. Y'all were just talking about Cardi not killing it anymore and there she goes with another successful feature, if that obviously holds up. And don't forget "South Of The Border" as well, which just reentered this week and is predicted to rise significantly next week. |
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Post by renaboss on Jan 2, 2020 13:00:57 GMT -5
Any chance Ellie Goulding's "River" might chart?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 2, 2020 13:13:00 GMT -5
^Unless Amazon has been promoting it in the US, I doubt it, given it is an Amazon Original. It is also on YT, but has less than 2 million views in 4 weeks.
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Post by kacpi on Jan 2, 2020 13:16:15 GMT -5
Any chance Ellie Goulding's "River" might chart? It's not included in the radio estimates and its streaming numbers from Spotify/Apple Music are really low because it's neither in Top 200 on Spotify nor on Kworb's US Apple Music Top Songs, so I think that unfortunately it won't chart unless the song gets streams from other streaming platforms. |
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Post by CocaNola on Jan 2, 2020 13:18:53 GMT -5
Writing on the Wall's spotify numbers are so fishy. I can't find anything to suggest a TikTok trend (no comments about tiktok on the mv, searching on the app brings up posts from october), and it has zero traction anywhere else (772 on iTunes, 1101 on AM). And it got 148k streams yesterday. Something's up.
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Post by lurker2 on Jan 2, 2020 13:21:27 GMT -5
Far as I can tell, it’s not on any big playlists, either.
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Post by lazer on Jan 2, 2020 13:21:46 GMT -5
I have no idea why Writing On The Wall went up so fast on the Spotify charts. No sign of the song on TikTok or on any big playlist on Spotify. What is going on?!
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Post by tuna on Jan 2, 2020 13:35:07 GMT -5
the Illuminati found Writing On The Wall and were like woah this slaps
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 2, 2020 13:36:21 GMT -5
^^It is probably related to a beef he has with 50 Cent about the $1.5 million he spent on a used Bugatti, after being 2 weeks in the ICU.
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Post by CocaNola on Jan 2, 2020 13:39:57 GMT -5
🤔
This is dramatized and it's probably not a conspiracy like the thread thinks but it's interesting regardless.
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Post by PGriffin on Jan 2, 2020 13:53:04 GMT -5
I cant wait to rub it in on those Mariah stans hehe. Too bad it'll bounce right back to #1 next year, so it'd hardly fallen off forever anyway.  Will Billboard change chart rules to prevent it (and other Christmas/older songs) from charting at number 1 or even that high on the chart? I think the UK has a chart rule like that. |
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Post by renaboss on Jan 2, 2020 14:06:33 GMT -5
Technically no as it will almost definitely fall off completely, earning it the biggest fall off the chart. Pretty sure Billboard lists falling off and drops separately. The record holder for biggest fall from #1 was just broken a few weeks ago by The Weeknd's "Heartless." 1-17. I cant wait to rub it in on those Mariah stans hehe. The MC stans know and are looking forward to her setting yet another record - an unbeatable one at that. Queen of making up Billboard records. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 2, 2020 14:30:33 GMT -5
^Or face the wrath of an angry Beyhive. "Not the bees, not the bees...." |
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Post by Raccoon on Jan 2, 2020 14:49:30 GMT -5
Following on from that previous post... In the past, how many songs released by ‘major’ acts in January-March, specifically, have failed to rank in the Y/E Top 20 or beyond? 🤔 • Heartbeat Song: Kelly Clarkson - Y/E #91 • Filthy: Justin Timberlake - Y/E #N.A • 45S: Rihanna - Y/E #48 • Toxic: Britney Spears - Y/E #48 • It’s Like That: Mariah Carey Y/E #61 These are the first that came to mind from the top of my head. I’m curious. Gods Plan Shape of You 7 Rings Alllll January. |
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Post by violentdreams on Jan 2, 2020 14:56:59 GMT -5
Thinking about it, using bots to artificially inflate the streams of a song and just saying "Wow, looks like this is blowing up on TikTok!" is a pretty genius tactic. It's not like anyone below the age of 18 would question it.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 2, 2020 15:09:13 GMT -5
Too bad it'll bounce right back to #1 next year, so it'd hardly fallen off forever anyway. Will Billboard change chart rules to prevent it (and other Christmas/older songs) from charting at number 1 or even that high on the chart? I think the UK has a chart rule like that. That's the ACR rule, you're talking about. I doubt Billboard would enact that sort of thing. You'd have streaming heavy songs dropping like flies from one week to the next one, in some cases even becoming recurrent in the process. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 2, 2020 15:14:38 GMT -5
Writing on the Wall is #1074 in Apple Music, so something really fishy is going on at Spotify ...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 15:18:21 GMT -5
I cant wait to rub it in on those Mariah stans hehe. I feel for the Mariah stans who would get "upset" by the rubbing in their faces that their favorite artist hit the Top extending her num.1 hits to 19 for a few weeks with a Christmas song and it's now not Christmas and it may almost expectedly drop off the chart... Lol. Right? I knew some people would try to be negative and spin it as horrible that a song would fall from #1 off the chart.. but what kind of mental backflips do you have to do to paint anything about the song’s performance as a negative at this point? It’s a seasonal song that just hit #1 25 years after it was released and spent 3 weeks there. Christmas was over and done over a week ago. Did you really expect it chart like your average hit that comes and goes? Don’t worry.. it will return in 10 months. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 2, 2020 15:19:56 GMT -5
Oh PLEASE PLEASE let that hacking be true :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
This is the only way French Montana's career could be more hilarious.
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Post by Lukas on Jan 2, 2020 15:27:48 GMT -5
Too bad it'll bounce right back to #1 next year, so it'd hardly fallen off forever anyway. Will Billboard change chart rules to prevent it (and other Christmas/older songs) from charting at number 1 or even that high on the chart? I think the UK has a chart rule like that. I believe the UK chart does, and honestly that’s a huge no-no for me, since it’s saying that the Christmas songs are less popular than they actually are. In a way, it’s even worse than disallowing the songs to chart. |
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Post by kacpi on Jan 2, 2020 15:28:54 GMT -5
When I thought I couldn't be more shocked because of Writing On The Wall... This whole hacking situation is a perfect start of 2020s lmao
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Post by atg on Jan 2, 2020 15:39:51 GMT -5
Following on from that previous post... In the past, how many songs released by ‘major’ acts in January-March, specifically, have failed to rank in the Y/E Top 20 or beyond? 🤔 • Heartbeat Song: Kelly Clarkson - Y/E #91 • Filthy: Justin Timberlake - Y/E #N.A • 45S: Rihanna - Y/E #48 • Toxic: Britney Spears - Y/E #48 • It’s Like That: Mariah Carey Y/E #61 These are the first that came to mind from the top of my head. I’m curious. Gods Plan Shape of You 7 Rings Alllll January. And technically work even though it was right at the end of january |
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Post by iHype. on Jan 2, 2020 16:03:00 GMT -5
Wriitng on the Wall is definitely benefitting from fake streams. It has not gone viral on TikTok, there is no TikTok from the past 2 months using the song with even 100k views. It also hasn't increased in playlist reach the past weeks on Spotify.  There's really nothing to explain the Spotify increase. |
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Post by anorable on Jan 2, 2020 16:35:04 GMT -5
"Question: How many faking they streams? (A lot) Getting they plays from machines? (A lot) I can see behind the smoke and mirrors, n****s ain't really big as they seem. (Hmm)" ~J. Cole
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