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Post by tim on Jul 14, 2020 20:45:49 GMT -5
Of all the songs revealed thus far "Someday" is the most disappointing one for myself as it just missed my own top 5. Of all the artists I was probably most influenced by on CMT/TNN it was Alan Jackson because of how often I would see his music videos growing up. I mean I can even remember seeing the video for "Blue Blooded Women" quite a bit and that wasn't even a top 40 hit for him. I say that because "Someday" just happens to be one of those music videos I remember seeing all the time and because of that I just fell in love with the song as a young boy. And now as I've gotten older the lyrics have seemed to take on a deeper meaning in my life. I was a bit surprised to see it barely make it into the top 40, but I suppose it just might be one of those songs some of y'all will appreciate at another time down the road in life.
Speaking of, for a recent release "The Older I Get" did quite well and I do hope that we get some details sooner rather than later about his next release. This is just a fantastic song and one that I found hard to rank myself if only because there's a lot more nostalgia wrapped up in the songs that I ranked above this.
And with that I'm going to stop there for tonight and will pick back up tomorrow for the next five songs....which means we'll be in the top 30!
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Jul 14, 2020 21:26:08 GMT -5
"The Older I Get" is a great song and deserved to make it a lot higher
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Post by kw9461 on Jul 14, 2020 21:49:37 GMT -5
“You Go Your Way” is fantastic and easily would’ve been a #1 single if it was released a decade earlier. I knew it wouldn’t do too well here because it wasn’t a hit at radio but this is still too low. Great melody, music, vocals and the kind of subject that’s right in Alan’s wheelhouse. Loved the hook too. Agreed, especially since his other recent songs have done better than I expected. I still wonder how the song would've fared if they had pushed that as the lead single instead of "Long Way To Go". Such great lyrics, and a classic Alan melody that could've been from any era. Sad to see it go.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 14, 2020 21:58:26 GMT -5
The last few reveals have hurt big. Has to be low familiarity, because that's the only reason these awesome songs are out already.
"The One You're Waiting On" is terrific too. Shame they only pushed it to secondary radio.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 14, 2020 22:01:00 GMT -5
“You Go Your Way” is fantastic and easily would’ve been a #1 single if it was released a decade earlier. I knew it wouldn’t do too well here because it wasn’t a hit at radio but this is still too low. Great melody, music, vocals and the kind of subject that’s right in Alan’s wheelhouse. Loved the hook too. Agreed, especially since his other recent songs have done better than I expected. I still wonder how the song would've fared if they had pushed that as the lead single instead of "Long Way To Go". Such great lyrics, and a classic Alan melody that could've been from any era. Sad to see it go. That's the single I knew 100% for certain his radio career was over. Not only did he lose a ton of momentum from 2010-2012, but "You Go Your Way" was charting when country radio shifted to that upbeat/bro-sound and corporate programmers probably didn't want something that sounded like it was from 1996.
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Post by LBTrocks on Jul 14, 2020 22:02:40 GMT -5
I didn't like any of these, lol.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 14, 2020 22:07:12 GMT -5
I didn't like any of these, lol. ![](https://i.gifer.com/8stJ.gif)
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Post by tim on Jul 14, 2020 22:13:16 GMT -5
The last few reveals have hurt big. Has to be low familiarity, because that's the only reason these awesome songs are out already. "The One You're Waiting On" is terrific too. Shame they only pushed it to secondary radio. I can’t agree enough with both of these points. While most are quite familiar with his early hits that radio continues to play to this day, there is a lot of songs from Alan’s early discography that while might no longer receive airplay were still sizable hits for the time that participants only discovered during the rankdown. As for “The One You’re Waiting On” I think it did about as well as I would’ve expected it to. It’s such a beautifully written song and one that Alan delivers with such ease. Angels and Alcohol is a great album too with quite a few albums tracks that I like to put on.
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Post by kw9461 on Jul 14, 2020 22:47:37 GMT -5
The last few reveals have hurt big. Has to be low familiarity, because that's the only reason these awesome songs are out already. "The One You're Waiting On" is terrific too. Shame they only pushed it to secondary radio. I probably under-ranked that one, it's quite good. I don't understand why radio (and for that matter, his label) turned so quickly on Alan. His days as a hitmaker were obviously over, but given his stature he should've been able to crack the charts a few more times (like George Strait and Toby Keith, among others) and they didn't even try. Then he puts out a wonderful song like "The Older I Get", it's gets no push at all and they stall on putting the album out. It makes no sense for an artist with his career and stature. On a side note, Alan played a show in Dayton around the time he released "The Older I Get". A couple people I worked with went to the show, and all I heard about the next day was how amazing his new song was. I think two of them even changed their ringtone to that. I find it hard to believe the song couldn't have at least scraped the bottom rungs of the chart if they had bothered to try.
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Post by tim on Jul 14, 2020 23:05:11 GMT -5
The last few reveals have hurt big. Has to be low familiarity, because that's the only reason these awesome songs are out already. "The One You're Waiting On" is terrific too. Shame they only pushed it to secondary radio. I don't understand why radio (and for that matter, his label) turned so quickly on Alan. His days as a hitmaker were obviously over, but given his stature he should've been able to crack the charts a few more times (like George Strait and Toby Keith, among others) and they didn't even try. I just think that in the age of digitial streaming country radio has completely changed. Gone are the days when older, established artists like Don Williams could have hits as he was rounding out his radio career (“Back in My Younger Days” and “True Love” were both top 5 hits in 90/91), or George Jones with “Choices” in 1999, or even Kenny Rogers getting a number one with “Buy Me a Rose” in early 2000. It’s a shame because I think country radio is leaving behind an audience (including myself) that still longs to hear these kind of songs such as “The Older I Get”, and instead has focused on an audience with a shorter attention span and one that doesn’t share the same kind of passion for the genre. Do I feel a bit sidelined by mainstream country radio? Yes, I do...which is sad considering I’m only in my 30s! I know sabre14 now works in country radio and I myself have become an avid follower of his on social media, so I will say I do appreciate his continued passion for artists like Alan!
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 14, 2020 23:26:02 GMT -5
The last few reveals have hurt big. Has to be low familiarity, because that's the only reason these awesome songs are out already. "The One You're Waiting On" is terrific too. Shame they only pushed it to secondary radio. I probably under-ranked that one, it's quite good. I don't understand why radio (and for that matter, his label) turned so quickly on Alan. His days as a hitmaker were obviously over, but given his stature he should've been able to crack the charts a few more times (like George Strait and Toby Keith, among others) and they didn't even try. Then he puts out a wonderful song like "The Older I Get", it's gets no push at all and they stall on putting the album out. It makes no sense for an artist with his career and stature. A big part of it is as simple as a numbers game -- that yes, is related to Alan's age and his traditional style. The amount of advertising on radio stations these days is ungodly...literally 13-15 minutes of an hour (in the daytime and evening drive) are devoted to commercials. That means you only get 14-15-16 songs an hour to play, if that. Since a certain amount of songs played have to be new singles to stay on the Mediabase and Billboard panel (which means more label connections and advertising), you only have so many spots for music. I think programmers literally needed room for the new "blood" coming in to radio and Alan was thought expendable (his age and style made it a no-brainer in their eyes, I'm sure). UMG Nashville probably had the same talks we're having back in 2011-2012 in regards to Alan and where his radio career was heading. They likely didn't push anything because they knew it would be pointless. I agree that artists like Alan, George, Reba and even ones like Gary, Craig and Trace still have a ton of listeners that know their names and want their music, but unfortunately, with the way radio, labels and advertising are set up, it makes it an easier decision for them to let go of older artists. Blake, Jason, Carrie and Luke Bryan will all suffer that fate one day as well. It's sad though because Alan's music was good enough to become radio hits.
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Post by tim on Jul 14, 2020 23:44:34 GMT -5
I probably under-ranked that one, it's quite good. I don't understand why radio (and for that matter, his label) turned so quickly on Alan. His days as a hitmaker were obviously over, but given his stature he should've been able to crack the charts a few more times (like George Strait and Toby Keith, among others) and they didn't even try. Then he puts out a wonderful song like "The Older I Get", it's gets no push at all and they stall on putting the album out. It makes no sense for an artist with his career and stature. A big part of it is as simple as a numbers game -- that yes, is related to Alan's age and his traditional style. I think programmers literally needed room for the new "blood" coming in to radio and Alan was thought expendable (his age and style made it a no-brainer in their eyes, I'm sure. I will say that I thank country radio for this shift as it led me to discover so many artists that I maybe wouldn’t have discovered otherwise (with Sturgill Simpson being one of the first that I sought out). I would even say I was on the Chris Stapleton train long before country radio was as I remember attending a show he was at and only myself and the guy in front of me even knew what the album Traveller was all about. Once I turned off the country dial to mainstream country I would have to say my own tastes in music began to shift as well. I found myself listening to more singer-songwriters such as Lori McKenna and then discovered a lot of folk artists like Gregory Alan Isakov that I loved. You can also add artists like Jason Isbell, Margo Price, and Cody Jinks to the list of those that I may not have found as much appreciation for otherwise. I will say, though, that the music I’m hearing coming out of the dial nowadays from mainstream country sounds quite a bit better so I continue to remain optimistic that the tide will turn once again.
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Post by taylor on Jul 15, 2020 1:05:40 GMT -5
I probably under-ranked that one, it's quite good. I don't understand why radio (and for that matter, his label) turned so quickly on Alan. His days as a hitmaker were obviously over, but given his stature he should've been able to crack the charts a few more times (like George Strait and Toby Keith, among others) and they didn't even try. Then he puts out a wonderful song like "The Older I Get", it's gets no push at all and they stall on putting the album out. It makes no sense for an artist with his career and stature. A big part of it is as simple as a numbers game -- that yes, is related to Alan's age and his traditional style. The amount of advertising on radio stations these days is ungodly...literally 13-15 minutes of an hour (in the daytime and evening drive) are devoted to commercials. That means you only get 14-15-16 songs an hour to play, if that. Since a certain amount of songs played have to be new singles to stay on the Mediabase and Billboard panel (which means more label connections and advertising), you only have so many spots for music. I think programmers literally needed room for the new "blood" coming in to radio and Alan was thought expendable (his age and style made it a no-brainer in their eyes, I'm sure). UMG Nashville probably had the same talks we're having back in 2011-2012 in regards to Alan and where his radio career was heading. They likely didn't push anything because they knew it would be pointless. I agree that artists like Alan, George, Reba and even ones like Gary, Craig and Trace still have a ton of listeners that know their names and want their music, but unfortunately, with the way radio, labels and advertising are set up, it makes it an easier decision for them to let go of older artists. Blake, Jason, Carrie and Luke Bryan will all suffer that fate one day as well. It's sad though because Alan's music was good enough to become radio hits. Ow, I don't wanna hear that! Lol. I guess I have a bit of time to prepare myself tho, as I can see at least one more album era going exceptionally well for her, provided the single choices aren't terrible this time and the lead is something exceptionally good that brings momentum back from "Drinking Alone." The Cry Pretty era had to have been a fluke, as I don't think she'd get dropped by radio so abruptly after an era like Storyteller and "The Fighter" with Keith Urban. I will also say that I can't stand the amount of ads I hear on radio. It feels like I hear a MAXIMUM of three songs before I hear FIVE minutes of commercials, not to mention the news and weather at hourly intervals in the daytime. I know it wasn't like that even as early as when I was 9, so I have no clue when that changed, but I don't like it lol. I also don't like the way they phase older artists out but with the way you put it I guess I could see why they would, as they've proven themselves and then some already, and had their time in the radio sun.
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 13:20:29 GMT -5
I know that most of y'all are likely not around at the moment, but in keeping up with the plan to have this wrapped up by the end of the weekend I want to go ahead and jump on into the next five songs. Here's a few stats that covers what will be leaving in this round: - 74 points separate #35 and #31
- A studio album that has yet to see any losses will lose two songs back-to-back
- There will only be one top 5 loss while four others lose a top 10
- All of the songs leaving are from the 1990's
- While no studio albums are exiting this round I will be spotlighting both of his gospel releases
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 13:26:33 GMT -5
Stats for #35: Our first song leaving this afternoon was rather polarizing as the rankings were all spread out from top to bottom. The two participants who placed this down in the bottom 5 can rejoice knowing this song is leaving, however for another participant they'll be losing their first top 5 of the rankdown (and the only top 5 loss of this set). Best rankdown position: 26 Worst rankdown position: 50 Average position: 35.05 SD Rank: 15th Highest Ranking distribution:Top 10s: 1 11 to 20s: 2 21 to 30s: 6 31 to 40s: 1 41 to 50s: 6 51 to 60: 1 Bottom 5s: 2 And here's a hint to go along with it! ![](https://i.imgur.com/34ymEfx.jpg)
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 13:30:03 GMT -5
I'm hoping I'm not alone in my dislike for "Mercury Blues" You do have some company down there at the bottom of the barrel! Well the girl I love I stole her from a friend He got lucky, stole her back again She heard he had a mercury Lord she's crazy 'bout a mercury I'm gonna buy me a mercury And cruise it up and down the road 35. “Mercury Blues”Released: September, 1993 Album: A Lot About Livin' (And a Little 'bout Love) Peak Chart Position: #2 Total: 666 Average: 35.05 Std Dev: 17.75 {Songs Remaining}Between the Devil and Me Chasin' That Neon Rainbow Chattahoochee Dallas Don't Rock the Jukebox Drive Everything I Love Gone Country Gone Crazy Here In the Real World Home I Don't Even Know Your Name I'll Try It Must Be Love It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Little Bitty Little Man Livin' On Love Love's Got A Hold On You Midnight in Montgomery Monday Morning Church Pop a Top Remember When She's Got the Rhythm (And I Got the Blues) Small Town Southern Man So You Don't Have to Love Me Anymore Summertime Blues Tall, Tall Trees There Goes Tonight I Climbed the Wall Wanted Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning) (Who Says) You Can't Have It All Who's Cheatin' Who
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 13:39:38 GMT -5
Stats for #34:
As I mentioned just above a studio album was going to see back-to-back losses and so this will be the second song to leave from A Lot About Livin' (And a Little 'bout Love), which up until now had remained unscathed. While this did not receive any bottom 5 rankings, we will see a participant lose their first top ten.
Best rankdown position: 12 Worst rankdown position: 36 Average position: 33.84 SD Rank: 21st Lowest Ranking distribution: Top 10s: 1 11 to 20s: 3 21 to 30s: 4 31 to 40s: 5 41 to 50s: 3 51 to 60: 3 Bottom 5s: 0
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 13:40:12 GMT -5
I've got everything a broken heart needs Oh, I'm doin' fine don't you worry 'bout me 'Cause I'm Lord and Master Of a fool's Taj Mahal 34. “(Who Says) You Can't Have It All”Released: January, 1994 Album: A Lot About Livin' (And a Little 'bout Love) Peak Chart Position: #4 Total: 643 Average: 33.84 Std Dev: 13.70 {Songs Remaining}Between the Devil and Me Chasin' That Neon Rainbow Chattahoochee Dallas Don't Rock the Jukebox Drive Everything I Love Gone Country Gone Crazy Here In the Real World Home I Don't Even Know Your Name I'll Try It Must Be Love It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Little Bitty Little Man Livin' On Love Love's Got A Hold On You Midnight in Montgomery Monday Morning Church Pop a Top Remember When She's Got the Rhythm (And I Got the Blues) Small Town Southern Man So You Don't Have to Love Me Anymore Summertime Blues Tall, Tall Trees There Goes Tonight I Climbed the Wall Wanted Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning) Who's Cheatin' Who
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 13:54:54 GMT -5
I'm not surprised that these are the two songs to leave first from A Lot About Livin' (And a Little 'Bout Love). "Mercury Blues" was kind of a wild card here and I had no idea where it might land as I figured it would likely be one of his more polarizing songs. I myself think it's a jam and I'm glad to see that I'm not alone in that sentiment! I found it to be one of the hardest songs for me to rank personally and it bounced around a bit in my top 20 (I think I might've even had it in my top 15 at one time) before I ended up putting it just outside of that.
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 13:55:41 GMT -5
Stats for #33:
The next song to exit is the second from one of Alan's early albums in the 1990's and is also another #1 hit of his to leave. While this jumpstarted out in the top 10, it quickly backtracked into the top 30 where it remained for most of its run. Two more participants will lose a top 10 including one who just lost a top 5.
Best rankdown position: 6 Worst rankdown position: 39 Average position: 32.47 SD Rank: 19th Highest Ranking distribution: Top 10s: 2 11 to 20s: 4 21 to 30s: 3 31 to 40s: 4 41 to 50s: 2 51 to 60: 4 Bottom 5s: 0
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 13:56:03 GMT -5
I called my doctor on the telephone Help me Doc there's something wrong I can't shake it it's gone too far He said tell me what your symptoms are
I said my hands are sweaty and my knees are weak I can't eat and I can't sleep It's turning me every way but loose 33. “Love's Got a Hold On You”Released: July, 1992 Album: Don't Rock the Jukebox Peak Chart Position: #1 Total: 617 Average: 32.47 Std Dev: 17.52 {Songs Remaining}Between the Devil and Me Chasin' That Neon Rainbow Chattahoochee Dallas Don't Rock the Jukebox Drive Everything I Love Gone Country Gone Crazy Here In the Real World Home I Don't Even Know Your Name I'll Try It Must Be Love It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Little Bitty Little Man Livin' On Love Midnight in Montgomery Monday Morning Church Pop a Top Remember When She's Got the Rhythm (And I Got the Blues) Small Town Southern Man So You Don't Have to Love Me Anymore Summertime Blues Tall, Tall Trees There Goes Tonight I Climbed the Wall Wanted Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning) Who's Cheatin' Who
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 14:05:10 GMT -5
"Loves Got a Hold On You" was always one of those early songs from Alan that I used to jam out to and would even say it was one of my favorites in my youth. While I don't have quite the same passion for it as I used to, I still did manage to put this just outside of my top 15. There was an early draft I did where this actually snuck into my top ten, but it fell just a bit further down as I continued to make changes lol.
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 14:09:08 GMT -5
Stats for #32:
The next song to leave is only the second from this studio album and overall was pretty well liked across the board. While this may not have received any top 10s, it did garner one top 15 and three top 20 rankings. There always has to be that one person, though, and such is the case here where we find one lone bottom 5.
Best rankdown position: 16 Worst rankdown position: 36 Average position: 32.42 SD Rank: 15th Lowest Ranking distribution: Top 10s: 0 11 to 20s: 4 21 to 30s: 7 31 to 40s: 2 41 to 50s: 4 51 to 60: 1 Bottom 5s: 1
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 14:09:24 GMT -5
There you were standin' in the shadows Well I just looked where I don't see I'm still pretendin' I don't need you I won't let you know you're killin' me
Like some big black widow spider You know just how to catch your prey I'm actin' like it doesn't matter And you sneak up from behind and whisper my name 32. “There Goes”Released: July, 1997 Album: Everything I Love Peak Chart Position: #1 Total: 616 Average: 32.42 Std Dev: 13.38 {Songs Remaining}Between the Devil and Me Chasin' That Neon Rainbow Chattahoochee Dallas Don't Rock the Jukebox Drive Everything I Love Gone Country Gone Crazy Here In the Real World Home I Don't Even Know Your Name I'll Try It Must Be Love It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Little Bitty Little Man Livin' On Love Midnight in Montgomery Monday Morning Church Pop a Top Remember When She's Got the Rhythm (And I Got the Blues) Small Town Southern Man So You Don't Have to Love Me Anymore Summertime Blues Tall, Tall Trees Tonight I Climbed the Wall Wanted Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning) Who's Cheatin' Who
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Post by LBTrocks on Jul 15, 2020 14:10:20 GMT -5
What are you all DOING?!!? “Mercury Blues” is an incredible 90s country jam! I can’t believe this isn’t in the top 30 at LEAST!
Same thing for “Love’s Got A Hold On You,” it deserved way better. Fantastic song from an overall great album.
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 14:23:11 GMT -5
What are you all DOING?!!? “Mercury Blues” is an incredible 90s country jam! I'm glad you like this one! I hated putting this outside of my top 20 myself because I too jam out to this song whenever I hear it. I'm still not surprised it didn't make the top 30, though, because I could see not everyone taking to this song. Oh, and for those that didn't get the Keith Urban hint he is in the music video playing guitar! Same thing for “Love’s Got A Hold On You,” it deserved way better. Fantastic song from a n overall great album. Fixed that for you ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 14:39:17 GMT -5
Stats for #31:
The final song to leave just before the top 30 is a second loss from a studio album. This briefly flirted with the top 10 early on but continued a decent back further. While no one put this in their bottom 5 it did accumulate one bottom 10 ranking. Unfortunately for one participant they lose their third top 10 song of this set.
Best rankdown position: 7 Worst rankdown position: 32 Average position: 31.16 SD Rank: 31st Lowest Ranking distribution: Top 10s: 1 11 to 20s: 6 21 to 30s: 4 31 to 40s: 2 41 to 50s: 4 51 to 60: 2 Bottom 5s: 0
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 14:46:31 GMT -5
I'd like for you to listen to a joke I heard today From a woman who said she was through and calmly walked away I tried to smile and did a while but it felt so outta place Did you ever hear of a clown with tears drops streaming down his face.
Home for me is misery and here I am wasting time 'Cause a row of fools on a row of stools is not what's on my mind But then you see her leaving me it's not what I prefer So it's either here just drinking beer or home remembering her. 31. “Pop a Top”Released: October, 1999 Album: Under the Influence Peak Chart Position: #3 Total: 592 Average: 31.16 Std Dev: 15.19 {Songs Remaining}Between the Devil and Me Chasin' That Neon Rainbow Chattahoochee Dallas Don't Rock the Jukebox Drive Everything I Love Gone Country Gone Crazy Here In the Real World Home I Don't Even Know Your Name I'll Try It Must Be Love It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Little Bitty Little Man Livin' On Love Midnight in Montgomery Monday Morning Church Remember When She's Got the Rhythm (And I Got the Blues) Small Town Southern Man So You Don't Have to Love Me Anymore Summertime Blues Tall, Tall Trees Tonight I Climbed the Wall Wanted Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning) Who's Cheatin' Who
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Post by tim on Jul 15, 2020 14:48:50 GMT -5
Ladies and Gents, here is your Top 30!
Between the Devil and Me Chasin' That Neon Rainbow Chattahoochee Dallas Don't Rock the Jukebox Drive Everything I Love Gone Country Gone Crazy Here In the Real World Home I Don't Even Know Your Name I'll Try It Must Be Love It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Little Bitty Little Man Livin' On Love Midnight in Montgomery Monday Morning Church Remember When She's Got the Rhythm (And I Got the Blues) Small Town Southern Man So You Don't Have to Love Me Anymore Summertime Blues Tall, Tall Trees Tonight I Climbed the Wall Wanted Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning) Who's Cheatin' Who
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Post by LBTrocks on Jul 15, 2020 15:00:33 GMT -5
Not impressed with the reveals this time around lol
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