shaz196
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Post by shaz196 on May 27, 2020 19:23:04 GMT -5
So the change in radio estimates is having no real effect on the chart?
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 27, 2020 19:43:05 GMT -5
Circles still in the Top 10, we love to see it!
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on May 27, 2020 19:47:01 GMT -5
I guess it's easier now to be in the top 10 for 40 weeks, than to spend multiple weeks at #1.
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on May 27, 2020 20:01:29 GMT -5
Somehow, I want "Chasin' You" to reach Top 15, because Morgan Wallen and Blake Shelton share peaks last year ("Whiskey Glasses" and "God's Country" both peaked #17) and this year ("Nobody But You" and "Chasin' You" so far peaked both at #18)
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on May 27, 2020 20:06:22 GMT -5
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Post by Abbaschand on May 27, 2020 20:21:04 GMT -5
Making a meme for Pulse. I have stoop to the lowest of lows. ![]()  |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on May 27, 2020 20:29:43 GMT -5
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 27, 2020 20:36:15 GMT -5
Making a meme for Pulse. I have stoop to the lowest of lows. ![]() A lot of pre-soundscan era #1's were fake, radio being payola'd and record labels paying Billboard to make songs hits. It's why Baker Street never went #1 in 1978 because Andy Gibb threatened to pull out of an event if Billboard didn't keep his track at #1. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 20:44:55 GMT -5
Making a meme for Pulse. I have stoop to the lowest of lows. ![]()  |
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Post by Abbaschand on May 27, 2020 20:50:56 GMT -5
Making a meme for Pulse. I have stoop to the lowest of lows. ![]() A lot of pre-soundscan era #1's were fake, radio being payola'd and record labels paying Billboard to make songs hits. It's why Baker Street never went #1 in 1978 because Andy Gibb threatened to pull out of an event if Billboard didn't keep his track at #1. Who's to say that there's no payola at that time? |
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Post by saltnpeppa on May 27, 2020 20:55:22 GMT -5
Daisies dropping -50 to 90 is quite something. On the upper end of the chart Ariana getting four #1 debuts, Gaga notching another and one for this era, Watermelon Sugar going top 40, and Circles staying in the top ten feels correct and is something we love to see. Unfortunately if Gaga manages to get another song into the top ten with Chromatica that might be clips for Circles so I hope this proves to be true. And Break My Heart is gonna be rising this week to that naysayer earlier.
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Post by Lukas on May 27, 2020 20:58:09 GMT -5
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Post by 🌺T.A.T.I🌺 on May 27, 2020 21:09:16 GMT -5
4 number 1 debuts for Ariana! Will she be the first to have the record?
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on May 27, 2020 21:14:35 GMT -5
4 number 1 debuts for Ariana! Will she be the first to have the record? yes 4 - Ariana* 3 - Mariah, Drake, Bieber 2 - Britney, Travis, Gaga* * if Rain On Me debuts at #1 |
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Post by shayonce on May 27, 2020 21:18:49 GMT -5
Youtube US
Rain On Me Day 5 : 1,123,984 (+31.8%)
5 days total : 10,818,079
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Post by queerio on May 27, 2020 21:26:36 GMT -5
4 number 1 debuts for Ariana! Will she be the first to have the record? She absolutely will be, passing Drake, Bieber & Mariah @3 who she tied with Stuck With U — also this will be Gaga’s second which is still notable, tying Britney Spears and Travis Scott I did not realize only 38 songs in history have debuted at #1 With Rain On Me, Gaga will become the artist with the longest gap between songs that debuted at #1 on the chart—9 years since Born This Way. |
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Post by fhas on May 27, 2020 21:36:58 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on May 27, 2020 21:42:34 GMT -5
Making a meme for Pulse. I have stoop to the lowest of lows. ![]() Which time is the left side referring to? When things were all hearsay and nothing could actually be tracked with accuracy? When labels would deliberately not release a single until the right moment to get #1s? When digital sales made it much easier to obtain a #1? When remixes were made of countless songs with the rent-a-rapper strategy? When single sales were dead and the Hot 100 was essentially just a radio chart in which label manipulation was rampant to get a song higher on any given week? Like... y'all. Hot 100 #1s were never this "happy sunshine everything's fair" thing you're talking about. Make Number Ones Real Again. They were never real to begin with. It's always been a game of chess between different musicians and labels. Always. You just notice it now because social media makes everything more visible. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 27, 2020 21:45:13 GMT -5
Youtube US Rain On Me Day 5 : 1,123,984 (+31.8%) 5 days total : 10,818,079 I'm not so sure about the percentage increase you're showing. If it fell more 800k Monday-Tuesday from Sunday'Monday, I don't think it could have actually increased yesterday. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 27, 2020 22:30:06 GMT -5
There's only been a few occurrences of a song really climbing to the top with no help, recently Someone You Loved hit #1 after weeks upon weeks of climbing. Most songs need a helping hand to reach the top, and that's just how it is. I didn't get involved in the 6ix9ine/Ariana drama weeks ago but Stuck With U won fair and square, 6ix9ine couldn't even debut at #2 (lol) even with all the bitchin' about bundles.
A bum-fuck nobody can't cut a track and hit #1 with no label support, bundles, remixes, radio, music videos, social media shoutouts, etc.
You might as well criticize everyone that gets a #1 single, an artists #1 hit isn't any less real because bundles were involved or radio played the track a lot.
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shaz196
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Post by shaz196 on May 27, 2020 22:51:27 GMT -5
Is Rockstar somehow declining or is it remaining stable and only falling a spot because of ROM? |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on May 27, 2020 23:00:33 GMT -5
shaz196 I’m no expert, but I’d be VERY shocked if “Rockstar” started struggling. It hasn’t even impacted pop radio yet but it’s already nearing the Top 40 (which is wild because DaBaby has never reached the top 40 as a lead). It’s #1 on Spotify AND Apple Music, too. I’m fairly certain it will hit number 1 in the near future. TL;DR it’s falling a spot because of “Rain On Me”
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Post by jayhawk1117 on May 27, 2020 23:02:54 GMT -5
I wonder who will eventually have more number one debuts Ari, Drake or Travis cuz they all kinda shit em out like it's nothing
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Post by higilo on May 28, 2020 0:04:29 GMT -5
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Post by higilo on May 28, 2020 0:04:56 GMT -5
I wonder who will eventually have more number one debuts Ari, Drake or Travis cuz they all kinda s**t em out like it's nothing Ari will get another one if she collabs with Katy Perry, Taylor Swift or literally anyone else |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 0:36:51 GMT -5
Wait, both Morgan Wallen and Ma Boi Luke are getting over 10 Million streams per week on their big hits? It looks like Country could still survive in the Top 40 if radio were removed from Billboard's formula. |
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Post by kimberly on May 28, 2020 1:14:25 GMT -5
Can someone explain why songs with radio deals are no longer debuting at ~#60-80 based on their first three days? I get that Rain On Me has no radio deal, but how did TUN, 7R and SWU not debut near the bottom of the chart? TUN for one was released late Saturday night, so it didn't have Friday or Saturday to go into its airplay figures. Radio would help songs debut "early" usually for big comeback/lead singles with built up anticipation. "ME!," "Roar," "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and "Womanizer" are some examples. It isn't really that common for songs to do this: 3 out of 4 of these songs had explosive sales the week of their release, Roar and WANEGBT around 0.5 million downloads and Womanizer 0.3 million. WANEGBT and Womanizer broke single-week download records for women. Neither "7 rings" nor "SWU" fall into this category of huge anticipation. Ariana already had "TUN" and "breathin" high up the radio charts when "7 rings" was released. And "SWU" opened with great airplay numbers, but Justin already had a top ten hit, and the song didn't have much pre-release hype. |
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Post by sirskimask on May 28, 2020 1:59:22 GMT -5
Three things in life are certain: death, taxes, and Circles being in the top 10 for another week
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 2:50:33 GMT -5
Three things in life are certain: death, taxes, and Circles being in the top 10 for another week Havent done my taxes I’m too turnt up  |
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Post by shayonce on May 28, 2020 4:14:31 GMT -5
Apple Music USA Daily Top 100 - Wednesday 5/27-
1. (=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch)
2.(=) Gunna - DOLLAZ ON MY HEAD (feat. Young Thug)
3.(=) Gunna - COOLER THAN A BITCH (feat. Roddy Rich)
4.(=) Polo G - Flex (feat. Juice WRLD)
5.(+2) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé)
6.(+2) Roddy Ricch - The Box
7.(-2) Gunna - BLINDFOLD (feat. Lil Baby)
8.(-2) Gunna - TOP FLOOR (feat. Travis Scott)
9.(+3) Drake - Toosie Slide
10.(+3) Drake - Chicago Freestyle (feat. Giveon)
11.(=) Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande - Rain On Me
12.(+3) Lil Baby & 42 Dugg - We Paid
14.(+2) THE SCOTTS, Travis Scott & Kid Cudi - THE SCOTTS
17.(+1) Future - Trillionaire (feat. YoungBoy Never Broke Again)
18.(+2) Future - Life Is Good (feat. Drake)
19.(+8) StaySolidRocky - Party Girl
21.(+9) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy
22.(+2) Lil Baby - Emotionally Scarred
24.(+1) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights
25.(-2) Polo G - Martin & Gina
27.(-1) 6ix9ine - GOOBA
28.(+4) Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo
31.(+1) Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo
32.(+2) Lil Durk - 3 Headed Goat (feat. Lil Baby & Polo G)
33.(-2) Future - Solitaires (feat. Travis Scott)
40.(+2) Migos - Need It (feat. YoungBoy Never Broke Again)
45.(+2) NLE Choppa - Walk Em Down (feat. Roddy Ricch)
46.(+3) Don Toliver - After Party
48.(+3) SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix)
51.(+3) Kehlani - Can I (feat. Tory Lanez)
54.(-1) Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber - Stuck with U
55.(+2) Justin Bieber - Intentions (feat. Quavo)
59.(+4) DaBaby - JUMP (feat. YoungBoy Never Broke Again)
64.(+3) Rod Wave - Girl of My Dreams
65.(+4) Post Malone - Circles
67.(+1) Surfaces - Sunday Best
69.(+5) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar
70.(+3) Harry Styles - Adore You
72.(+6) Jhené Aiko - B.S. (feat. H.E.R.)
80.(+1) Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now
82.(+2) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage
83.(=) Moneybagg Yo - Me Vs Me
90.(=) Doja Cat - Say So (feat. Nicki Minaj)
94.(+5) Megan Thee Stallion - Captain Hook
99. Lil Yachty - Split / Whole Time
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