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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jul 30, 2020 14:38:17 GMT -5
Does anybody know how many songs would have charted in the top 40 after MJ‘s death? I know he had 19 songs in the top 40 on Digital Sales chart top 10 ~ 6 songs 11-20 ~ 5 songs 21-30 ~ 3 songs (1 by Jackson 5) 31-40 ~ 5 songs (2 by Jackson 5) not sure how many songs, but I'm kinda sure these 6 songs in the top 10 (Thriller, Man In The Mirror, Billie Jean, The Way You Make Me Feel, Beat It, Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough) would've. and probably 2-3 songs more in the top 15 (Smooth Criminal, Black Or White, P.Y.T.) |
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Post by Ratatouille on Jul 30, 2020 14:55:08 GMT -5
Lowest point of his career |
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Post by golfradio on Jul 30, 2020 15:36:15 GMT -5
Lowest point of his career Horrible take, especially considering that the entire thing is to promote a charity. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 30, 2020 15:46:31 GMT -5
This version is #1 in iTunes and the original at #5.
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Post by Ratatouille on Jul 30, 2020 15:49:37 GMT -5
Lowest point of his career Horrible take, especially considering that the entire thing is to promote a charity. When i read the article, there isn’t any charity. It is updated |
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Post by iHype. on Jul 30, 2020 16:17:42 GMT -5
Does anybody know how many songs would have charted in the top 40 after MJ‘s death? 1. I Gotta Feeling: 243~ points 2. Boom Boom Pow: 235~ points 3. Best I Ever Had: 224~ points 4. Billie Jean: 197~ points 5. Thriller: 196~ points6. Knock You Down: 190~ points 7. Man in the Mirror: 185~ points8. LoveGame: 181~ points 9. I Know You Want Me: 170~ points 10. Fire Burning: 170~ points 11. The Way You Make Me Feel: 156~ points
12. Beat It: 154~ points13. Birthday Sex: 154~ points 14. Don't Stop til You Get Enough: 152~ points15. New Divide: 140~ points 16. P.Y.T.: 132~ points17. Waking Up in Vegas: 131~ points (**the actual #10 song on Hot 100 that week) 18. You Belong with Me: 128~ points 19. Smooth Criminal: 125~ points20. Black or White: 123~ points
I believe someone else did a calculation recently, but that's what I calculated. And I wanted to estimate the following week's Hot 100, since his death was mid-week, most songs didn't really drop in sales the second tracking week of his death. However I couldn't find much airplay figures for his singles that week, but from what I saw, most of his airplay declined pretty heavily the second week so I just subtracted 2/3 of airplay for every song that week. Rough airplay estimates for him, but couldn't be more than a few millions (aka few points) off for each song tbh. 1. I Gotta Feeling: 285~ points 2. Boom Boom Pow: 222 points 3. Best I Ever Had: 198~ points 4. Knock You Down: 182~ points 5. LoveGame: 180~ points 6. Fire Burning: 180~ points 7. Birthday Sex: 175~ points 8. Man in the Mirror: 167~ points9. I Know You Want Me: 165~ points 10. You Belong with Me: 165~ points 11. Billie Jean: 158~ points12. Thriller: 148~ points13. New Divide: 145~ points (**the actual #10 song on Hot 100 that week) 14. The Way You Make Me Feel: 130~ points 15. Don't Trust Me: 125~ points 16. Fallin' for You: 125~ points 17. Beat It: 123~ points |
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Post by strongerq on Jul 30, 2020 16:34:10 GMT -5
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Post by atg on Jul 30, 2020 17:04:30 GMT -5
Lowest point of his career How is it low? Would you rather him doing a concert with 50-100k people all at one place, disregarding what’s going on in the world? |
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Post by failstoner on Jul 30, 2020 17:05:47 GMT -5
Lowest point of his career he just had the biggest song of 2020 so far, don't know what you are talking about |
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Post by kierz7 on Jul 30, 2020 17:14:21 GMT -5
I have a question...
What would it take for a song to replace “The Twist” at number-one on the ‘Hot 100 All-Time’ chart, in terms of weeks at #1/in the top 10/in the top 50? etc.
• 14+ weeks #1 / 40-45+ weeks top 10 / 60+ weeks on the chart?
• Would the song have to follow “The Twist” in that goes #1 in two different chart runs/calendar years?
I’m really curious, and I wonder if that will happen sometime in the streaming era or even this lifetime?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2020 17:31:11 GMT -5
fingers crossed dua can maybe sneak in the week following taylor's album bomb, i know it will be hard but i just want a top ten peak so desperately and we would've already had it by now without these album bombs and formula changes
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Post by strongerq on Jul 30, 2020 17:44:54 GMT -5
I have a question... What would it take for a song to replace “The Twist” at number-one on the ‘Hot 100 All-Time’ chart, in terms of weeks at #1/in the top 10/in the top 50? etc. • 14+ weeks #1 / 40-45+ weeks top 10 / 60+ weeks on the chart? • Would the song have to follow “The Twist” in that goes #1 in two different chart runs/calendar years? I’m really curious, and I wonder if that will happen sometime in the streaming era or even this lifetime? Well this is random run: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 10 10 10 11 11 12 12 13 13 14 14 15 15 16 16 17 17 18 18 19 19 20 20 21 21 22 22 23 23 24 24 25 25
1,815,518 points The Twist has 1,811,520 based on Lukas 's formula. 48 weeks in top 10, 78 on chart. | pos | weeks | | 1 | 15 | | 2 | 5 | 3/4/5/6
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Ofcourse higher positions give way more points so #1 is equivalent to positions 18 to 25 combined.
But in any case without spending 15-20 weeks at #1, around 30 weeks in top 3 it is unrealistic. The chart run i posted was for the lols.  |
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Post by iHype. on Jul 30, 2020 17:48:53 GMT -5
AIWFCIY/Holiday classics seem to be the obvious contenders that'll challenge The Twist in the next decade if Billboard doesn't change rules for them.
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Post by strongerq on Jul 30, 2020 18:02:05 GMT -5
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jul 30, 2020 18:10:35 GMT -5
Hmm...not a big fan of the song😶
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Post by Push The Button on Jul 30, 2020 18:12:15 GMT -5
Man, Apple Music really sucks with getting new music out there at the moment it’s available. Spotify kills them in that regard. |
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Post by korbel16 on Jul 30, 2020 18:18:21 GMT -5
So glad the new chart rules are being implemented after this chart week. We won't have to worry about trash minaj stans trying to highjack yet another song to the top on sales alone. WAIT it’s after this chart week?? I thought it wasn’t until like October |
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Post by strongerq on Jul 30, 2020 18:20:59 GMT -5
So glad the new chart rules are being implemented after this chart week. We won't have to worry about trash minaj stans trying to highjack yet another song to the top on sales alone. WAIT it’s after this chart week?? I thought it wasn’t until like October The rule regarding The Hot 100 goes into effect on 7th of August (next Friday). So next chart week (starting tomorrow [chart date 08/15]) can be bundled. The rule regarding BB200 goes into effect on 9th of October (10 more weeks of bundling -including the week that starts tomorrow). Chart date 08/22/2020 will be the first "bundle free" Hot 100 & chart week 10/24/2020 will be the first "bundle free" Billboard 200 chart. |
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Post by iHype. on Jul 30, 2020 18:43:56 GMT -5
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Post by m450n on Jul 30, 2020 18:51:50 GMT -5
That doesn't count Youtube I assume? Because I can't imagine the 1 outstreaming cardigan if you include the mv. |
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Post by korbel16 on Jul 30, 2020 18:54:19 GMT -5
So a song has to be organically popular now to be number 1? Love it!!! Makes so much sense
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Post by Spidey on Jul 30, 2020 19:25:50 GMT -5
That doesn't count Youtube I assume? Because I can't imagine the 1 outstreaming cardigan if you include the mv. That chart only includes on-demand streams (Spotify, Apple Music, etc). |
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Post by kingvavis on Jul 30, 2020 20:27:28 GMT -5
It feels like Savage Love is going to have a similar run to Roses where it peaks at #5 or #4 with a peak in points of 22,000-24,000 points.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 30, 2020 20:27:48 GMT -5
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Post by atg on Jul 30, 2020 22:38:08 GMT -5
I don’t understand the hate for falling. I’ve seen it so low on many top 20 rankings. I think it sounds just fine
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 30, 2020 23:00:44 GMT -5
Will the Future x Uzi collab just be a single or an actual album?
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Post by garrettlen on Jul 31, 2020 0:15:23 GMT -5
Love to see Taylor battling for #1 spot! Hope she gets it! She's gotten it already and with a sizeable gap in points between her song and ROCKSTAR, I imagine. Their points were always close and she's done better on streaming for the week. To add to that, the numerous bundles and the alternate version single she's released will more than secure it for her. I'm so glad that bundles stop being counted for the first week after July 31st. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 31, 2020 0:29:30 GMT -5
HDD super early with their streaming chart again it seems.
For the Night is #1 on AM but dropping 9% in streams. Seems that the numbers are very low there for some reason.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 31, 2020 1:01:25 GMT -5
HDD super early with their streaming chart again it seems. For the Night is #1 on AM but dropping 9% in streams. Seems that the numbers are very low there for some reason. I mean their chart is projections but also a song can be #1 and go down? anyway |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 31, 2020 6:03:03 GMT -5
Cardigan ends the week at #1 on Spotify but What's Poppin is only a bit behind combined at #2.
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