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Post by rosalina4812 on Aug 25, 2020 14:28:33 GMT -5
i was talking specifically about BTS this week, but I partially agree regarding music consumption. Yeah there are more front loaded hits in 2020 but there are hits with insane longevity like Circles and Blinding Lights which was unseen in the recent years so basically music consumption is trending toward the extremes... interesting (even though I think the front loaded hits aren’t really demonstrations of general music consumption as much as they’re just a few thousand people exploiting billboard rules) Just like politics |
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Post by jaydoesnotknow on Aug 25, 2020 14:43:29 GMT -5
Yeah but if we wanted that we would've been satisfied since the beginning of their career because songs like that basically are their career this just shows how unfamiliar you are with their music. Exactly. Dynamite/ Boy With Luv are super poppy songs that only represent a small portion of their discography. They have years of participating in writing/ producing/ composing their own music and it reflects in the majority of their songs (Outro: Tear, NO, No More Dream, Hip Hope Lover etc. etc). If they’re going number one with this song is because they were smart and knew they had to cater to US audiences. Their hip hop influenced music was not going to cut it for hiphopheads here so they went with the generic pop song route and it’s working for them. |
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Post by After Minutes on Aug 25, 2020 17:20:05 GMT -5
So I might as well tell you about a dream I recently had:
Shawn Mendes, Harry Styles, Post Malone, The Weeknd and Jungkook unite for a cover of I Want it That Way with all the proceeds going to some charity related to the coronavirus and the song's first-week points absolutely nuke Hello's numbers and it reaches #1 on the year-end list in one week and then in an effort to best them 6ix9ine, DripReport and Justin Bieber release a cover of Dragostea Din Tei but it absolutely flops and Tekashi rats Justin out and says that he was the one to come up with the idea
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Post by After Minutes on Aug 25, 2020 17:23:41 GMT -5
I've listened to ttwo of their projects. They're surprisingly good, but it is still bland, generic pop music (partly) in english. So they're good but they make generic pop music? Make up your mind my friend. Yeah. That can be said about a lot of artists. For example Say So is a generic pop song, but it is also a pretty great song. Those things aren't exclusive in any way. |
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Post by gabe on Aug 25, 2020 17:26:29 GMT -5
so basically music consumption is trending toward the extremes... interesting (even though I think the front loaded hits aren’t really demonstrations of general music consumption as much as they’re just a few thousand people exploiting billboard rules) Just like politics can you not |
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Post by kierz7 on Aug 25, 2020 18:27:23 GMT -5
So I might as well tell you about a dream I recently had: Shawn Mendes, Harry Styles, Post Malone, The Weeknd and Jungkook unite for a cover of I Want it That Way with all the proceeds going to some charity related to the coronavirus and the song's first-week points absolutely nuke Hello's numbers and it reaches #1 on the year-end list in one week and then in an effort to best them 6ix9ine, DripReport and Justin Bieber release a cover of Dragostea Din Tei but it absolutely flops and Tekashi rats Justin out and says that he was the one to come up with the idea I- ☠️ |
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Post by garrettlen on Aug 25, 2020 18:52:55 GMT -5
im very regretful to announce you that it just won't happen, your boi 6ix9ine has set the bar way too high for anyone to beat that record It will eventually happen... Imagine if "Move Ya Hips" had actually sold 100k on that first week. It would have dropped 1-99. Charts are naturally trending towards more frontloaded runs because that's how we consume music now. The Hot 100 is starting to resemble the Billboard 200 album chart of the 1990's and 2000's with all the front loaded #1 debuts and then big drops in their second week. |
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Post by notgoodenglish on Aug 25, 2020 19:10:19 GMT -5
Hawái by Maluma is getting huge here in Latam ! Hope it became a moderate hit in the rest of the world ! He deserves an internationl hit
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Post by thelegends on Aug 25, 2020 19:16:11 GMT -5
So I might as well tell you about a dream I recently had: Shawn Mendes, Harry Styles, Post Malone, The Weeknd and Jungkook unite for a cover of I Want it That Way with all the proceeds going to some charity related to the coronavirus and the song's first-week points absolutely nuke Hello's numbers and it reaches #1 on the year-end list in one week and then in an effort to best them 6ix9ine, DripReport and Justin Bieber release a cover of Dragostea Din Tei but it absolutely flops and Tekashi rats Justin out and says that he was the one to come up with the idea Hey please don’t insult the legendary Dragostea Din Tei song. Anybody can tell you that O-Zone are better than those three artists combined. |
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 25, 2020 20:15:06 GMT -5
So I might as well tell you about a dream I recently had: Shawn Mendes, Harry Styles, Post Malone, The Weeknd and Jungkook unite for a cover of I Want it That Way with all the proceeds going to some charity related to the coronavirus and the song's first-week points absolutely nuke Hello's numbers and it reaches #1 on the year-end list in one week and then in an effort to best them 6ix9ine, DripReport and Justin Bieber release a cover of Dragostea Din Tei but it absolutely flops and Tekashi rats Justin out and says that he was the one to come up with the idea Hey please don’t insult the legendary Dragostea Din Tei song. Anybody can tell you that O-Zone are better than those three artists combined. that song was EPIC !! Most people only know it from T.I sampling it for ‘Live your life’ |
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Post by iggyamo on Aug 25, 2020 20:34:07 GMT -5
Hey please don’t insult the legendary Dragostea Din Tei song. Anybody can tell you that O-Zone are better than those three artists combined. that song was EPIC !! Most people only know it from T.I sampling it for ‘Live your life’ I think the meme outlived the T.I. song |
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Post by rosalina4812 on Aug 25, 2020 20:41:11 GMT -5
Hey please don’t insult the legendary Dragostea Din Tei song. Anybody can tell you that O-Zone are better than those three artists combined. that song was EPIC !! Most people only know it from T.I sampling it for ‘Live your life’ Most people think its the Numa Numa song song by a fat guy. The song was sampled due to the popularity of said meme. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 20:51:53 GMT -5
that song was EPIC !! Most people only know it from T.I sampling it for ‘Live your life’ Most people think its the Numa Numa song song by a fat guy. The song was sampled due to the popularity of said meme.  |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 25, 2020 22:52:59 GMT -5
BTS must be really desperate. I didn't know they had released yesterday a 'B-side' video for Dynamite.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 25, 2020 23:13:06 GMT -5
BTS must be really desperate. I didn't know they had released yesterday a 'B-side' video for Dynamite. I wouldn't say releasing a B-side video is desperate when they're on track to selling 100K |
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Post by tuna on Aug 26, 2020 0:13:18 GMT -5
please let Money Trees enter the Hot 100
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 26, 2020 4:59:35 GMT -5
BTS must be really desperate. I didn't know they had released yesterday a 'B-side' video for Dynamite. aren’t they already a lock for number 1 ? I don’t see how with their ginormous sales alone that they won’t come in at number 1 . I’m tired of all the 4 or 5 versions dropped on iTunes thing .. |
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Post by Mathgeek on Aug 26, 2020 5:16:33 GMT -5
There are 5 versions of Cardigan on iTunes with 3 on Taylor’s store.
WAP has 2 versions...clean and explicit. Versions happen. Even the discount doesn’t matter because fans would’ve bought it anyway. They’re buying the dang music video too and it’s what, $1.99?
I think maybe the label knew that Dynamite couldn’t compete with WAP or maybe even Drake without all 4 versions? At any rate, we shall see if this works out for them.
WAP is massive and nothing is guaranteed without knowing their d2c numbers.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 26, 2020 5:21:43 GMT -5
The new Big Sean song with Nipsey is doing well on AM. I wonder if that next album will do any big numbers
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 26, 2020 5:25:00 GMT -5
There are 5 versions of Cardigan on iTunes with 3 on Taylor’s store. WAP has 2 versions...clean and explicit. Versions happen. Even the discount doesn’t matter because fans would’ve bought it anyway. They’re buying the dang music video too and it’s what, $1.99? I think maybe the label knew that Dynamite couldn’t compete with WAP or maybe even Drake without all 4 versions? At any rate, we shall see if this works out for them. WAP is massive and nothing is guaranteed without knowing their d2c numbers. thank you 😊 I can’t fathom WAP being that dominant ( even radio is weak) so I figured the sales and YT numbers for Dynamite are more than enough to push it over the edge . And yes I know a lot of artists do multiple versions and fans buy 4 copies of each on the site . It’s still tedious though , no ? 😂 or maybe it’s just me . It’s too early and caffeine hasn’t kicked in yet |
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Post by thelegends on Aug 26, 2020 5:45:29 GMT -5
please let Money Trees enter the Hot 100 Technically it can’t enter unless it’s inside the top 50 due to recurrency rules. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 26, 2020 7:38:36 GMT -5
According to kworb, Dynamite's YouTube US views were just over a third of WAP's on Sunday and Monday.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 26, 2020 7:43:00 GMT -5
Spotify 08/24/20
1(=) Cardi B - WAP 2,484,070 (-3,191)
2(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 1,636,650 (-21,639)
3(=) 24kGoldn - Mood 1,258,973 (+51,896)
4(=) BTS - Dynamite 1,007,656 (-140,153)
5(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 997,334 (+7,574)
6(+1) Pop Smoke - For the Night 940,836 (+18,723)
7(-1) Juice WRLD - Wishing Well 924,358 (-9,432)
8(=) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN Remix 892,854 (+7,962)
9(=) Juice WRLD - Come & Go 875,094 (+10,463)
10(=) Juice WRLD - Smile 808,435 (-6,447)
Others:
11(+1) Pop Smoke - Mood Swings 768,845 (+8,833)
12(-1) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 761,375 (-8,131)
13(=) Conan Gray - Heather 758,212 (+2,183)
14(=) Internet Money - Lemonade 749,276 (+14,718)
15(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 725,683 (+5,378)
17(+1) Jawsh 365 - Savage Love 627,405 (-3,552)
18(+1) Pop Smoke - The Woo 619,711 (+877)
19(-2) Morgan Wallen - 7 Summers 609,090 (-22,431)
20(+2) Chris Brown - Go Crazy 546,381 (+12,279)
21(+2) DJ Khaled - GREECE 535,802 (+7,758)
22(-1) SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 530,164 (-3,965)
23(+1) DJ Khaled - POPSTAR 523,419 (+9,538)
25(+1) Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky 505,857 (-2,381)
27(+4) Saweetie - Tap In 496,573 (+25,673)
28(+7) Gunna - DOLLAZ ON YA HEAD 487,442 (+21,592)
31(+1) Kane Brown - Be Like That 472,859 (+2,589)
32(-12) Travis Scott - The Plan 471,618 (-67,484)
33(+1) Lil Baby - We Paid 471,535 (+5,288)
34(-5) Taylor Swift - cardigan 469,639 (-12,116)
37(+1) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 454,318 (-2,407)
41(=) powfu - death bed 438,328 (-4,046)
42(=) BØRNS - Electric Love 437,930 (+2,767)
44(+2) Rod Wave - Rags2Riches 2 434,899 (+6,083)
46(-6) Billie Eilish - my future 430,932 (-14,569)
51(+5) Maluma - Hawái 394,624 (+18,364)
52(-1) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 393,996 (+3,718)
55(-5) Polo G - Martin & Gina 386,197 (-25,539)
59(+4) Tate McRae - you broke me first 375,815 (+8,411)
60(+2) J. Balvin - UN DIA (ONE DAY) 373,305 (+3,665)
63(-4) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN 362,861 (-12,176)
64(+6) iann dior - Prospect 362,328 (+22,829)
68(-4) Topic - Breaking Me 352,493 (-14,162)
69(+8) Money Man - 24 351,607 (+22,415)
75(+3) Labrinth - Still Don't Know My Name 339,934 (+12,872)
76(-1) Rod Wave - Rags2Riches 339,637 (+9,194)
79(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Girls in the Hood 331,287 (+6,308)
82(+1) Curtis Waters - Stunnin' 319,532 (+111)
83(+6) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 318,156 (+8,437)
85(-1) Kendrick Lamar - Money Trees 316,348 (+1,802)
86(+9) Wallows - Are You Bored Yet? 315,689 (+14,019)
102(debut) Big Sean - Deep Reverence 284,587
118(-6) Joel Corry - Head & Heart 264,179 (-2,776)
121(-5) NextYoungin - 3 Musketeers 262,074 (-1,493)
135(+8) Lil Uzi Vert - 20 Min 242,160 (+6,260)
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Post by andrebra on Aug 26, 2020 7:56:07 GMT -5
Huh I guess I just realized that Greece is above Popstar on Spotify
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Post by iamsorare on Aug 26, 2020 8:30:14 GMT -5
Huh I guess I just realized that Greece is above Popstar on Spotify the better song won |
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Post by rosalina4812 on Aug 26, 2020 8:56:43 GMT -5
Huh I guess I just realized that Greece is above Popstar on Spotify the better song won Trash take |
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 26, 2020 9:50:08 GMT -5
Heather is really poppin off huh
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Post by golfradio on Aug 26, 2020 10:05:56 GMT -5
Can anybody explain to me by Mood by 24kgoldn and Iann Dorr is not being allowed to chart on R&B/Hip-Hop songs? It's definitely at least adjacent to that genre, and both of those artists have charted there before. I would definitely argue it's more of a Rap song than recent smashes on that chart like "Falling", "Hot Girl Bummer" and "Roxanne" (which was a #1 on that chart I might add). Truly the only "genre" charts that make any only sort of sense are Pop & Rhythmics songs chart bc they are based only on radio play to those specific audiences so Billboard doesn't have to "define" the genre of every song to determine it's eligibility.
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Post by iggyamo on Aug 26, 2020 10:07:53 GMT -5
please let Money Trees enter the Hot 100 Technically it can’t enter unless it’s inside the top 50 due to recurrency rules. It entered bubbling under which means recurrence rules don’t apply |
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