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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Apr 18, 2021 23:17:15 GMT -5
Everybody keeps talking about these obvious shenanigans but I thought payola was illegal? So how is this still happening on pop radio in the year 2021? Can anyone provide an example of how this can be legally done? Does the head marketer of the radio department on a label meet up for lunch with an Iheart radio representative on a Monday afternoon and then they decide collaboratively to send a song to #1 by the end of the week? Iβve always wondered how this works. Of course itβs payola. I mean how much more obvious can you be? I think itβs strange the number of βveteranβ members on here think it doesnβt exist or it rarely happens, lol. I think itβs strange the number of people with a history of questionable βknowledgeβ who insist it is whenever they see fit, lol.
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Post by #brayden on Apr 18, 2021 23:54:12 GMT -5
I made a friend a couple months ago via Grindr - tee hee. And I was SUPER curious to hear his opinion on "payola" because he was a host for one of the biggest radio stations in Calgary a year or so ago before he moved to good ol' Stoon.
"Payola" to him was moreso the exchange of merchandise, concert tickets, etc. (basically anything but straight up cash to his knowledge) in exchange for radio play. So it's not technically payola but he mentioned that there's all kinds of s*** going on behind the scenes at radio that people aren't aware of. It's more manipulated than we think.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Apr 19, 2021 5:38:50 GMT -5
Back at #1.
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Post by Mayman on Apr 19, 2021 6:11:17 GMT -5
I wonder if he'll get the Billboard #1 today instead of Tate.
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Post by allow that on Apr 19, 2021 8:46:12 GMT -5
LMAO, so that other song just magically got to be #1 for ONE DAY over a published update? Is she managed by Scooter?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 19, 2021 10:49:49 GMT -5
this will be #1 until Peaches takes over, so we're looking at possibly 4+ weeks at #1.
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Apr 19, 2021 13:07:33 GMT -5
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Post by Mike on Apr 19, 2021 13:08:19 GMT -5
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 19, 2021 13:27:42 GMT -5
Yes, please!!
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Post by dovahduck on Apr 19, 2021 13:48:11 GMT -5
They're finally making the push for number one! Let's goo!
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Post by allow that on Apr 19, 2021 14:52:52 GMT -5
I have no interest in a remix with Ariana, but if it gets this to #1 on the Hot 100 itβs worth it. This song is so 80βs inspired and Ariana is basically late 90βs Mariah, so Iβm having trouble hearing it staying true to the original vibe of the song.
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Post by yuh yuh on Apr 19, 2021 15:21:26 GMT -5
The remix might resurrect the song for meπ
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Post by Choco on Apr 19, 2021 16:45:40 GMT -5
This song is ancient by now, so I'm okay with a remix giving me an excuse to revisit it with a fresh spin.
I know I'm in the minority but I liked Doja's remix of IYE. Inferior to the original but a fun song on it's own.
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Post by degen on Apr 20, 2021 3:28:05 GMT -5
Meh. I can see this being irrelevant in a couple weeks just like the βGood As Hellβ remix and the βIn Your Eyesβ remix but yes it can probably get a shot at #1 on the Hot 100. But the question is will Ariana get credited.
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Apr 20, 2021 3:41:54 GMT -5
Officially #1 on Billboard Pop Songs
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 20, 2021 3:54:11 GMT -5
Meh. I can see this being irrelevant in a couple weeks just like the βGood As Hellβ remix. The Ariana remix to GAH was not a flash in the pan remix. Many stations switched over to playing that version and that version has received almost as many streams as the original.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Apr 20, 2021 6:10:28 GMT -5
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Post by top40guy on Apr 20, 2021 8:31:48 GMT -5
Since you could call Ari and Abel long-time collaborators by now, they definitely deserve a #1 together. While pleasant this song has always needed a little oomph for me and I hope Ari can provide that energy.
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Post by kalmanta on Apr 20, 2021 11:20:58 GMT -5
I just hope they switch it up a bit, Iβm tired of all the half-assed remixes lately.
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Post by degen on Apr 20, 2021 12:27:43 GMT -5
Meh. I can see this being irrelevant in a couple weeks just like the βGood As Hellβ remix. The Ariana remix to GAH was not a flash in the pan remix. Many stations switched over to playing that version and that version has received almost as many streams as the original. Then why wasnβt Ariana credited on Billboard?
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Post by fearlessarrow on Apr 21, 2021 5:02:25 GMT -5
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Apr 21, 2021 5:03:34 GMT -5
The Ariana remix to GAH was not a flash in the pan remix. Many stations switched over to playing that version and that version has received almost as many streams as the original. Then why wasnβt Ariana credited on Billboard? a Hot 100 chart credit isnβt the be all end all concerning a songβs success yknow
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 21, 2021 6:07:56 GMT -5
The Ariana remix to GAH was not a flash in the pan remix. Many stations switched over to playing that version and that version has received almost as many streams as the original. Then why wasnβt Ariana credited on Billboard? Because it never had 50% of the points in a given week*. But that doesn't change the fact that the remix still contributed immensely to the song's success, just not over 50% of it. You can literally look at Spotify and YouTube to see how well the remix did compared to the original. Kworb also has iTunes archives as well showing it for digital sales too. The remix was always pulling in hefty numbers months after its release. It wasn't like the Britney Spears "S&M" remix or anything. *Ariana is also not BeyoncΓ© and can't force Billboard to credit her for way longer than should be a la Perfect. (Only kinda kidding.)
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Post by HamedM1 π on Apr 21, 2021 16:39:08 GMT -5
They're coming and I hope this is better than whatever the Blinding Lights remix with Rosalia was
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Post by Choco on Apr 21, 2021 18:12:23 GMT -5
I still have nightmares about RosalΓa's mix.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Apr 21, 2021 21:52:29 GMT -5
Literally was coming in here to say they need to stop trying to make this happen when I heard about the remix, especially when the superior In Your Eyes couldn't do it and...lo and behold, this is actually a #1 pop song?! Color me shocked. It wound up being one of my least favorites on the album (definitely least favorite single) and I just assumed he kept trotting it out live because it was a single, but damn! Well, good for Abel! Curious to see how this sounds though. I have a feeling they will just tack Ari on it.
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Post by Choco on Apr 21, 2021 23:04:41 GMT -5
My least fave single is still "Heartless". There's a reason why it didn't even make the cut for his Super Bowl show even if it was a recent chart topper.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Apr 22, 2021 6:12:25 GMT -5
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Post by trustypepper on Apr 22, 2021 6:51:28 GMT -5
So here for this remix, I think it has tons of potential. I hope they bring something interesting to the table instead of phoning it home.
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