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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 21, 2020 11:41:21 GMT -5
^Either way. We'll find out soon ...
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Post by gikem on Dec 21, 2020 12:03:34 GMT -5
Can Billboard just, like, not count non-digital-storefront sales anymore? I'm getting really sick of Dynamite bouncing in and out of the top 10.
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Post by lucidruid on Dec 21, 2020 12:10:34 GMT -5
Can Billboard just, like, not count non-digital-storefront sales anymore? I'm getting really sick of Dynamite bouncing in and out of the top 10. sick? i think it’s pretty fun seeing songs have longevity. pretty sure Dynamite is in its 5th month now, it entering Top 10 again is pretty cool imo. especially since bts are notorious for having singles that dip pretty quickly after release |
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Post by lucidruid on Dec 21, 2020 12:11:50 GMT -5
Yeah, Taylor may have just clinched the #1. The streaming was incredibly close between her and Mariah. Mariah may have it, as the prediction by TOTC had Willow sales at 55k. yeah, it’s super close. if we take totc scores, mariah is leading, but only with a 2-3 point difference, so it’s a close call. |
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 21, 2020 12:17:51 GMT -5
Mariah being #1 would be a big kii after all the remixes and videos Taylor's team released :kii:
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 21, 2020 12:26:05 GMT -5
Can Billboard just, like, not count non-digital-storefront sales anymore? I'm getting really sick of Dynamite bouncing in and out of the top 10. I was skeptical at first but “Dynamite” is a HIT. It’s easily their biggest hit and arguably their first true, sustainable hit. Good for them! |
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Post by gikem on Dec 21, 2020 12:27:50 GMT -5
sick? i think it’s pretty fun seeing songs have longevity. pretty sure Dynamite is in its 5th month now, it entering Top 10 again is pretty cool imo. especially since bts are notorious for having singles that dip pretty quickly after release And good for them, I'm just sick of all these remix gimmicks BTS has pulled on a song that has already peaked on radio and should be on its way out by now. TBH, it's also not helped by all these predictors who keep considerably underestimating their website sales whenever they release new music and/or remixes. |
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Post by Myth X on Dec 21, 2020 12:33:39 GMT -5
Imagine if after all the remixes and discounts of discounts willow still debuts at #2
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Post by Gary on Dec 21, 2020 12:39:20 GMT -5
probably 5 more pages of discussion
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Post by Gary on Dec 21, 2020 12:51:53 GMT -5
Ariana Grande Scores Seventh Pop Songs Chart No. 1 With 'Positions'
By Gary Trust
12/21/2020
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www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9503266/ariana-grande-positions-tops-pop-songs-chart/She last led with "7 Rings." Ariana Grande's "Positions" ascends to No. 1 on Billboard's Pop Songs radio airplay chart (dated Dec. 26). The track, released on Republic Records, marks Grande's seventh No. 1 on Pop Songs, which ranks the week's most-played titles on a panel of over 160 mainstream top 40 stations, as monitored by Nielsen Music/MRC Data. Here's a recap of Grande's seven Pop Songs No. 1s: Title, Date reached No. 1, Weeks at No. 1 "Problem," feat. Iggy Azalea, July 12, 2014, two "Side to Side," feat. Nicki Minaj, Dec. 24, 2016, five "No Tears Left to Cry, July 21, 2018, one "God Is a Woman," Nov. 10, 2018, one "Thank U, Next," Jan. 26, 2019, one "7 Rings," March 16, 2019, six "Positions," Dec. 26, 2020, one (to-date) Dating to her first week at No. 1, with "Problem" (July 12, 2014), Grande ties Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift for the most Pop Songs leaders in that span. "Positions" premiered atop the Nov. 7-dated multi-metric Billboard Hot 100, marking Grande's fifth No. 1 and record-extending fifth No. 1 debut. The song is the title-track lead single from her latest LP, which launched as her fifth No. 1 on the Billboard 200 (Nov. 14) and led the list for two weeks. All charts will update Tuesday (Dec. 22) on Billboard.com.
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Post by colson on Dec 21, 2020 12:53:30 GMT -5
Willow is #1 according to Billboard.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Dec 21, 2020 12:54:12 GMT -5
Yes but do you really think songs only benefit from promotion that happened in one given week? No shade to Mariah, I am a lamb and live for her domination, but we can’t pretend like the song isn’t currently benefiting from all the countless promotion it’s received in its lifetime. You are still missing the point. This started from a comment or more about Mariah "losing" to Taylor. Some of us were pointing out Mariah wasn't engaged in a competition. Mariah wasn't the one increasingly promoting throughout the week and using new tactics to bump her song during the week. AGAIN, it was about last week specifically. No one denied "AIWFCIY" has been promoted in general or benefited from previous promotion. That's just irrelevant to the discussion. Mariah may not be publicly "competing", but she is an artist who is known to meticulously follow charts/positions etc. Even her ex-husband has spoken about how closely she follows what is current/popular because success is still very important to her. I don't think it is a negative thing at all (like, at all), but anyone who knows Mariah well, knows she is hoping for as many weeks as possible and I am sure she has her fingers crossed for this week as well and why shouldn't she as I am sure it feels good to top at this stage in her career. I think they both care a lot (as I think chart metrics is just as important to Taylor, though she may be a little more private about it). Tbh, I wish both weren't so focused on peaks and chart positions as both have nothing left to prove and have solidified their place in music history (particularly Mariah). |
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Post by iHype. on Dec 21, 2020 12:57:14 GMT -5
Taylor Swift's 'Willow' Debuts at No. 1 on Billboard Hot 100
Taylor Swift's "Willow" blooms with a No. 1 debut on the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart. The track is her seventh Hot 100 leader and second of 2020.
Concurrently, parent album Evermore launches at No. 1 on the Billboard 200, as Swift is the first artist to debut atop both charts simultaneously twice. She became the first act to achieve the feat even once when her prior album Folklore and its single "Cardigan" opened atop the Billboard 200 and Hot 100 charts dated Aug. 8.
Here's a deeper look at the coronation of "Willow," released Dec. 11 on Republic Records, concurrent with Evermore. The song is the 1,115th No. 1 in the Hot 100's 62-year history.
Streams, sales & airplay: "Willow" drew 30 million U.S. streams and sold 59,000 downloads in the week ending Dec. 17, according to Nielsen Music/MRC Data. It also earned 12.3 million radio airplay audience impressions in the week ending Dec. 20.
The track debuts at No. 1 on the Digital Song Sales chart and No. 4 on Streaming Songs, while bubbling under the Radio Songs survey.
Breaking down the song's first-week sales, seven purchase options were available in Swift's webstore during the tracking week, with all discounted for the frame's last 31 hours to between 48 cents and $1.03. Along with the song's original version, its "dancing witch (Elvira remix)," "lonely witch" and "moonlight witch" versions were available individually. Plus, three versions were available as part of the song's "Woodvale" collection: its "dancing witch," "lonely witch" and "moonlight witch" iterations; for the collection, they were packaged with, respectively, an instrumental version of "Willow," an original songwriting demo of "Willow" and a live version of her 2019 single "Christmas Tree Farm" (with each two-track "Woodvale" purchase counting as one sale for chart tabulation purposes).
First artist to debut atop Billboard 200 & Hot 100 simultaneously twice: As noted above, as "Willow" blossoms atop the Hot 100 and parent album Evermore soars in at No. 1 on the Billboard 200, Swift is the first artist to have debuted atop both charts simultaneously twice. She became the first act to achieve the feat even once, when Folklore and "Cardigan" roared in atop the Billboard 200 and Hot 100 charts dated Aug. 8. (The Billboard 200 began on March 24, 1956, and the Hot 100 originated on Aug. 4, 1958.)
One other act has made one such double debut: BTS, with Be and "Life Goes On" on the charts dated Dec. 5.
Swift's seventh No. 1: Swift scores her seventh Hot 100 leader. Here's a recap:
"We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together," three weeks at No. 1, beginning Sept. 1, 2012 "Shake It Off," four weeks, beginning Sept. 6, 2014 "Blank Space," seven weeks, beginning Nov. 29, 2014 "Bad Blood," feat. Kendrick Lamar, one week, June 6, 2015 "Look What You Made Me Do," three weeks, beginning Sept. 16, 2017 "Cardigan," one week, Aug. 8, 2020 "Willow," one week to-date, Dec. 26, 2020
Swift is the 21st artist in the Hot 100's history with at least seven No. 1s, and the seventh solo woman. The Beatles lead all acts with 20 No. 1s, followed by Mariah Carey with 19.
Third No. 1 debut: "Willow" is Swift's third song to debut at No. 1 on the Hot 100, following "Shake It Off" and "Cardigan." Swift becomes one of six acts with at least that many entrances, joining Ariana Grande, the leader with five, and Justin Bieber, Carey, Drake and Travis Scott with three each.
12th No. 1 debut this year: "Cardigan" is the 47th song to debut at No. 1 on the Hot 100. It's the 12th to do so in 2020 (all since April), triple the previous record for the most in a single year, as four songs entered at No. 1 in both 1995 and 2018.
20th No. 1 of 2020: "Willow" is the 20th song to score its first week at No. 1 on the Hot 100 in 2020. This year marks the highest total of songs earning their first weeks on top since Nielsen Music/MRC Data-based information began fueling the chart in November 1991 (and the most in a year since 27 songs ascended to No. 1 in all of 1991).
29 career top 10s: "Willow" is not only Swift's seventh Hot 100 No. 1, but also her 29th top 10. She passes the totals of Carey and Stevie Wonder for a solo share of the sixth-best sum.
Here is a recap of the acts with the most Hot 100 top 10s, dating to the chart's 1958 inception (two years after Elvis Presley's commercial breakthrough):
Most Hot 100 Top 10s 42, Drake 38, Madonna 34, The Beatles 31, Rihanna 30, Michael Jackson 29, Taylor Swift 28, Mariah Carey 28, Stevie Wonder 27, Elton John 27, Janet Jackson 25, Lil Wayne 25, Elvis Presley
19 career top 10 debuts: Swift extends her record among women for the most debuts in the Hot 100's top 10, as "Willow" lifts her total to 19. Among all acts, only Drake has more: 27.
21 Digital Song Sales No. 1s: Swift adds her record-furthering 21st Digital Song Sales No. 1 with "Willow." Rihanna ranks second with 14, followed by Bieber and Drake, each with 12.
Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas Is You" dips from No. 1 to No. 2 on the Hot 100. The song, first released on Carey's album Merry Christmas in 1994 and which first reigned for three weeks last holiday season, added its fourth total week atop the Hot 100 a week ago. The carol drew 40.5 million U.S. streams (up 29%) and 30.8 million airplay impressions (up 12%) and sold 10,000 downloads (up 31%) in the latest tracking week.
The track spends an eighth total week at No. 1 on Streaming Songs and rises 8-6 on Digital Song Sales and 22-17 on Radio Songs. It also crowns the multi-metric Holiday 100 chart for a 44th week, of the chart's 49 total weeks since the list launched in 2011; it has topped the tally for 29 consecutive weeks, dating to the start of the 2015-16 holiday season.
Brenda Lee's 1958 classic "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree," which reached No. 2 last holiday season, holds at No. 3 on the Hot 100, and the late Bobby Helms' "Jingle Bell Rock," first released in 1957, rises 5-4, after ascending to a No. 3 best last holiday season.
24kGoldn's "Mood," featuring Iann Dior, drops 2-5 on the Hot 100 after six nonconsecutive weeks at No. 1, as it leads Radio Songs for an eighth week (83.6 million streams, down 2%). It tops the Hot Rap Songs chart, which uses the same methodology as the Hot 100, for a 10th week.
"A Holly Jolly Christmas" by the late Burl Ives bounds 14-6 on the Hot 100. The holiday staple, first released in 1964, reached No. 4 last holiday season. Andy Williams' "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year," from 1963, slips to No. 7, a week after hitting its No. 6 high.
Grande's "Positions" retreats 4-8 on the Hot 100, after it led the Nov. 7-dated chart upon its debut.
BTS' "Dynamite" resurges 24-9 on the Hot 100, up 7% to 8.5 million streams and 227% to 40,000 sold following the Dec. 11 release of its "holiday remix." "Dynamite" debuted at No. 1 on the Sept. 5-dated Hot 100 and ruled for three total weeks.
Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Jose Feliciano's "Feliz Navidad" holds at its No. 10 high, a week after hitting the top 10 for the first time, 50 years after its original 1970 release.
Notably, a record-breaking six holiday songs decorate the Hot 100's top 10, by Carey, Lee, Helms, Ives, Williams and Feliciano. As many as five holiday hits populated the top 10 on the chart dated Jan. 4, 2020, while the same amount infused the region last week.
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Post by Caviar on Dec 21, 2020 13:00:48 GMT -5
Queen of #1! Yas Taylor!!
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Post by annoymous1 on Dec 21, 2020 13:01:22 GMT -5
Glad Taylor debuted at #1 now I'm hoping it doesn't break Trollz record.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 21, 2020 13:02:48 GMT -5
We were talking about last week specifically and whether it was a "competition," but go ahead. Yes but do you really think songs only benefit from promotion that happened in one given week? No shade to Mariah, I am a lamb and live for her domination, but we can’t pretend like the song isn’t currently benefiting from all the countless promotion it’s received in its lifetime. The song is benefiting for being masterpiece. Is really that simple. Yes, of course Mariah has promoted it but it was that fire that she brought to the forefront that has sparked a movement along with Billboard changing it’s rules. Every other Xmas song (old and new) can give thanks to AIWFCIY for the resurgence it has cause for Christmas music in general. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 21, 2020 13:03:07 GMT -5
Weeks in the top 10
Mood 16
All I Want For Christmas Is You 13
Dynamite 12
positions 8
Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 8
Jingle Bell Rock 6
Holly Jolly Christmas 5
It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 4
Feliz Navidad 2
willow 1
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Dec 21, 2020 13:03:20 GMT -5
So "Willow" sold 60k? Why was there a 44k estimate earlier? I wonder how much it sold before the last day (31hr) discounts?
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Post by NeRD on Dec 21, 2020 13:09:02 GMT -5
Congrats Taylor!
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Post by neverduplicated on Dec 21, 2020 13:09:42 GMT -5
Congrats to Taylor and Mariah, possibly my favorite top 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 ever (along with the legendary 1-2 of We Belong Together and Shake it Off in 2005)!
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Dec 21, 2020 13:10:14 GMT -5
Congrats to Taylor and Mariah, possibly my favorite top 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 ever (along with the legendary 1-2 of We Belong Together and Shake it Off in 2005)! Same tbh! |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 21, 2020 13:11:05 GMT -5
So it came down to 364 vs 362 points. Wow
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Post by xyz on Dec 21, 2020 13:11:30 GMT -5
Wow, 2 points difference according to TOTC
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Post by iHype. on Dec 21, 2020 13:12:54 GMT -5
90s Mariah would've never let a #1 slip away by 2 points.  |
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Post by reputainbow on Dec 21, 2020 13:17:06 GMT -5
phew, i’m glad taylor got it (although just barely)!! i just don’t want next week’s drop to be worse than “trollz”.
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Post by Gary on Dec 21, 2020 13:19:16 GMT -5
This list is final
2020 #1's to get there 'old school' by rising to the top instead of debuting there - and half of these got there by one off gimmicks
3 by way of a remix with a guest artist and 1 from bundles.
THE BOX
BLINDING LIGHTS
SAY SO
SAVAGE
ROCKSTAR
WATERMELON SUGAR
SAVAGE LOVE(LAXED-SIREN BEAT)(BTS REMIX)
MOOD
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Post by xyz on Dec 21, 2020 13:22:31 GMT -5
This list is final 2020 #1's to get there 'old school' by rising to the top instead of debuting there - and half of these got there by one off gimmicks 3 by way of a remix with a guest artist and 1 from bundles. THE BOX BLINDING LIGHTS SAY SO SAVAGE ROCKSTAR WATERMELON SUGAR SAVAGE LOVE(LAXED-SIREN BEAT)(BTS REMIX) MOOD The only organic #1 hits IMO: THE BOX BLINDING LIGHTS ROCKSTAR MOOD |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 21, 2020 13:26:26 GMT -5
So, next week AIWFCIY will be the first song to be at #1 in 3 different years.
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 21, 2020 13:29:19 GMT -5
Drake and Bieber gone from top ten, we like!
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