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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 13, 2020 21:22:25 GMT -5
LMAO at the "willow" remix. She is shameless, that's for sure. Blinding Lights had a remix, I don't remember you making a comment about that. You don't remember it because I didn't make a comment. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 13, 2020 21:24:28 GMT -5
It's funny because Cher had 3 Top 10 hits just NINE years earlier. Her 1987 comeback was equally big with music/Moonstruck. Good point, and personally I actually consider that a bigger comeback in general because of her consistency. She also had some other hits in there, of course, that just missed the top 10. "Believe" was so huge, though. Keep- wouldn't activity for the Magical version of AIWFCIY be merged with the original? Nope. It's so long since the original that it's its own version. |
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Post by iamsorare on Dec 13, 2020 21:24:35 GMT -5
LMAO at the "willow" remix. She is shameless, that's for sure. Blinding Lights had a remix, I don't remember you making a comment about that. blinding lights didn't need remixes to go #1..the remixes came after the #1 peak |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 13, 2020 21:29:43 GMT -5
That makes sense, jeng- though when HITS wrote about the soundtrack album and Merry Christmas sharing tracks in common and the bigger seller getting the streaming points, it made me wonder.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 13, 2020 21:33:41 GMT -5
LMAO at the "willow" remix. She is shameless, that's for sure. Unlike the gazillion remixes that Dynamite has gotten ... |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 13, 2020 21:42:03 GMT -5
That makes sense, jeng- though when HITS wrote about the soundtrack album and Merry Christmas sharing tracks in common and the bigger seller getting the streaming points, it made me wonder. HITS may have different rules. It won't work that way for the Billboard 200. The soundtrack will chart (or not) as its own album. LMAO at the "willow" remix. She is shameless, that's for sure. Unlike the gazillion remixes that Dynamite has gotten ... I think that is tacky. |
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Post by m450n on Dec 13, 2020 21:43:39 GMT -5
Blinding Lights had a remix, I don't remember you making a comment about that. blinding lights didn't need remixes to go #1..the remixes came after the #1 peak I was just pointing out that it was dumb to bring up the remix considering it's not some star-studded remix featuring another singer, it's literally just a remix that she released because it was her birthday and wanted to. |
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Post by iamsorare on Dec 13, 2020 21:50:27 GMT -5
blinding lights didn't need remixes to go #1..the remixes came after the #1 peak I was just pointing out that it was dumb to bring up the remix considering it's not some star-studded remix featuring another singer, it's literally just a remix that she released because it was her birthday and wanted to. we are talking about Taylor..she did the same with cardigan.she knows that her fans will buy anything that she releases and look itunes right now.the remix is #1 !! |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 13, 2020 21:51:57 GMT -5
blinding lights didn't need remixes to go #1..the remixes came after the #1 peak I was just pointing out that it was dumb to bring up the remix considering it's not some star-studded remix featuring another singer, it's literally just a remix that she released because it was her birthday and wanted to. Well if that was your intent, you didn't state it as such. Secondly FYI I don't appreciate my reply being referred to as "dumb." |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 13, 2020 22:01:31 GMT -5
Oh, I know it will chart as its own album. HITS saying the album selling the most would get streaming points for songs they have in common is like compilations housing the same tracks- whichever sells the most in a given week gets the activity points from the shared tracks.
We'll see what kind of streaming activity the second "willow" version gets on Spotify. Said version is in the 500s on Apple Music.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 13, 2020 22:13:07 GMT -5
Oh, I know it will chart as its own album. HITS saying the album selling the most would get streaming points for songs they have in common is like compilations housing the same tracks- whichever sells the most in a given week gets the activity points from the shared tracks. They are new versions on the soundtrack, though, not the same versions as would happen with a hits set. |
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Post by m450n on Dec 13, 2020 22:17:13 GMT -5
I was just pointing out that it was dumb to bring up the remix considering it's not some star-studded remix featuring another singer, it's literally just a remix that she released because it was her birthday and wanted to. Well if that was your intent, you didn't state it as such. Secondly FYI I don't appreciate my reply being referred to as "dumb." Sorry, did I hurt your reply's feelings? |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 13, 2020 22:19:43 GMT -5
I mean, Taylor's remix is legit and she has every right to do that, but then don't say (some posters here and stan Twitter) she doesn't care about charts - when she's one of the biggest chart geeks out there. It's not a bad thing, just wanted to point that out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 22:47:43 GMT -5
Between Taylor's album bomb, Kid Cudi's album bomb and the deluge of Christmas songs, this week is gonna knock A LOT of songs out of the Hot 100.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Dec 13, 2020 22:53:58 GMT -5
Let's not argue about remixes after Lil Nas X pulled out 84 last year for Old Town Road
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Post by gikem on Dec 13, 2020 22:58:46 GMT -5
Between Taylor's album bomb, Kid Cudi's album bomb and the deluge of Christmas songs, this week is gonna knock A LOT of songs out of the Hot 100. In terms of the big ones, we're definitely gonna lose ROCKSTAR, Savage Love, and (if it doesn't leave this coming week) More Than My Hometown. A lot of lower-charting songs are gonna get nuked as well, maybe even some recurrent Christmas songs that were previously charting (because there's no way they can chart if they're not above #50, even if they gain in performance). On the flipside, if it stays on for 12/19, I expect WHATS POPPIN to survive this week due to Jack's album. It'll probably leave on 1/2/21. |
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Post by firefox on Dec 14, 2020 0:07:19 GMT -5
^ wow that's interesting. How did you even tabulate all those daily charts? Did you imported all the .csv files & put it on Excel? That's a lot of work if ever. I found a script online. linktoo bad i don't know how to use scripts. I have no background on IT/programming and such. Do you know any videos on hiw to learn using these scripts? |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 14, 2020 0:08:30 GMT -5
Lmao y'all go crazy over one remix - not even with a big name artist, it's a small Russian producer
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 14, 2020 0:58:51 GMT -5
Lmao y'all go crazy over one remix - not even with a big name artist, it's a small Russian producer No one is going crazy. It was simply pointed out, the same way it gets pointed out when other acts release remixes to push a song to #1 or to keep it in the top 10. She made a similar push with a remix for cardigan which got it to debut at #1. This remix for willow is no different. The other side to that is some Taylor fans love to act like she doesn't care a lot about charts and success when that's obviously false, which is what this post was about. I mean, Taylor's remix is legit and she has every right to do that, but then don't say (some posters here and stan Twitter) she doesn't care about charts - when she's one of the biggest chart geeks out there. It's not a bad thing, just wanted to point that out. |
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Post by aussie1 on Dec 14, 2020 1:08:09 GMT -5
Taylor and/or team pushing her song to go #1 first week is hardly shocking, new news. See the desperate attempt to get Me! to #1 or the few tricks that were pulled for Cardigan. Though I much prefer the 'organic' #1's you can't be mad at an artist playing the chart game to go #1. Especially given that Willow would of likely debuted at 2 or 3 without the remix and discount. I don't see the harm in a push to help it go #1 when it's so close. I think Taylor's team know that her biggest chance of going #1 is always first week due to her name. So they tend to push really hard E.G iTunes discounts, remix's and in the past signed CD's. Willow doesn't really 'feel' like a huge #1 debut but I mean what songs that went #1 this year even 'feel' like a #1? What's one more, bring it on.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Dec 14, 2020 1:12:19 GMT -5
Lmao y'all go crazy over one remix - not even with a big name artist, it's a small Russian producer No one is going crazy. It was simply pointed out, the same way it gets pointed out when other acts release remixes to push a song to #1 or to keep it in the top 10. She made a similar push with a remix for cardigan which got it to debut at #1. This remix for willow is no different. The other side to that is some Taylor fans love to act like she doesn't care a lot about charts and success when that's obviously false, which is what this post was about. Are there a lot of Taylor fans acting like she doesn't care about the charts tho? Lol Any Swifty knows the purpose of multiple versions, remixes, discounts, shorter songs for better streaming figures etc. She even stated in her documentary she wants to release music while people are still tolerating her success. lol Some fans have pointed out Folklore wasn't tailored for radio success and have made similar remarks, but that isn't the same as saying she doesn't care about the charts. lol |
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Post by iHype. on Dec 14, 2020 1:25:47 GMT -5
I mean, Taylor's remix is legit and she has every right to do that, but then don't say (some posters here and stan Twitter) she doesn't care about charts - when she's one of the biggest chart geeks out there. It's not a bad thing, just wanted to point that out. For some reason people can't point out when she does obvious chart-tailored moves lol. I remember when Me! had "live rehearsal audio" sold first week. If any other popstar in history had did that it'd never would have been let go. |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Dec 14, 2020 2:24:16 GMT -5
evermore was streamed 16.07% less than folklore. On Day 2, folkore suffered a 39.3% drop, while evermore dropped 40.45% on day 2 - a 1.15% increase.
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Post by iHype. on Dec 14, 2020 2:31:36 GMT -5
"Dicked Down in Dallas" died relatively quick, right? Like the same week. Pretty surprising considering how fast it ascended overnight.
All these Country songs that do well on streaming out the gate kinda all burst in hype pretty quick. "Forever After All" and "7 Summers" didn't have much stability after the first week (although they weren't really pushed at radio until weeks afterwards).
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Post by fridayteenage on Dec 14, 2020 2:42:05 GMT -5
Not everyone can be like year end top 5 hit Love Story, it's true.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 14, 2020 2:58:38 GMT -5
No one is going crazy. It was simply pointed out, the same way it gets pointed out when other acts release remixes to push a song to #1 or to keep it in the top 10. She made a similar push with a remix for cardigan which got it to debut at #1. This remix for willow is no different. The other side to that is some Taylor fans love to act like she doesn't care a lot about charts and success when that's obviously false, which is what this post was about. Are there a lot of Taylor fans acting like she doesn't care about the charts tho? Lol Any Swifty knows the purpose of multiple versions, remixes, discounts, shorter songs for better streaming figures etc. She even stated in her documentary she wants to release music while people are still tolerating her success. lol Some fans have pointed out Folklore wasn't tailored for radio success and have made similar remarks, but that isn't the same as saying she doesn't care about the charts. lol I never said it was a problem and I've seen Taylor fans on other forums and on Twitter insisting she doesn't care about charts and commercial success and that all her success is entirely organic. A common phrase I've seen is "she smashes organically." I'm a Taylor fan myself but I find that I'm one of the few who is honest about certain things when it comes to her career. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 14, 2020 3:07:50 GMT -5
I mean, Taylor's remix is legit and she has every right to do that, but then don't say (some posters here and stan Twitter) she doesn't care about charts - when she's one of the biggest chart geeks out there. It's not a bad thing, just wanted to point that out. For some reason people can't point out when she does obvious chart-tailored moves lol. I remember when Me! had "live rehearsal audio" sold first week. If any other popstar in history had did that it'd never would have been let go. Seems like country fans haven't gotten around to supporting certain songs beyond the first few days. |
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Post by shayonce on Dec 14, 2020 3:23:07 GMT -5
For some reason people can't point out when she does obvious chart-tailored moves lol. I remember when Me! had "live rehearsal audio" sold first week. If any other popstar in history had did that it'd never would have been let go. the way she released more and more as the numbers weren't hitting. also at very cheap price. Me! 7" Vinyl #1 +Digital Single $7 Me! 7" Vinyl #2 +Digital Single $7 Me! 7" Vinyl #3 +Digital Single $7 Me! 12" Picture Disc Vinyl +Digital Single $13 Me! CD Single +Digital Single $3 + Me! 7" Vinyl +Digital Single #4 $7 + Me! Autographed CD Single +Digital Single $5 + Me! Billboard Music Awards Exclusive Live Rehearsal Audio 12" Picture Disc Vinyl +Digital Single $13 Me! Billboard Music Awards Exclusive Live Rehearsal Audio 7" Picture Disc Vinyl +Digital Single $7 Me! Billboard Music Awards Exclusive Live Rehearsal Audio CD Single +Digital Single $3 |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Dec 14, 2020 3:32:04 GMT -5
^ she did huge numbers and still couldn’t touch OTR
That song was a behemoth
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Post by firefox on Dec 14, 2020 4:48:01 GMT -5
We nearly had a 100-1 jump. That would be historic if ever.
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