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Post by kacpi on Dec 15, 2020 4:11:50 GMT -5
New remix from taylor,it's out now..ok congratulations Taylor for another number one single with all of these desperate tricks please what's so desperate about the fact that she released two remixes π and they're actually remixes, not some collabs to attract certain fanbases |
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Post by fengyu on Dec 15, 2020 4:13:46 GMT -5
New remix from taylor,it's out now..ok congratulations Taylor for another number one single with all of these desperate tricks please what's so desperate about the fact that she released two remixes π and they're actually remixes, not some collabs to attract certain fanbases i actually prefer this "lonely witch" remix tbh it is genuinely rather soothing |
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Post by firefox on Dec 15, 2020 4:25:33 GMT -5
lonely witch is what "willow" sounds when it ends up in folklore.
dancing witch is what "willow" sounds when it ends up in Lover.
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Post by Ratatouille on Dec 15, 2020 4:30:17 GMT -5
New remix from taylor,it's out now..ok congratulations Taylor for another number one single with all of these desperate tricks..let's hope that she can have a second week in the top 10 Idk why artists are obsessed with number 1 when after the first week the song will collapse in sales. Better songs with longevity sales than number 1 and no sales IMO |
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Dec 15, 2020 5:07:09 GMT -5
the #1 spot on itunes just got taken away from taylor by a tiktok country star... It's been a recurring trend over the year, and I recently watched this excellent video explaining this phenomenon. |
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Post by fengyu on Dec 15, 2020 5:44:25 GMT -5
the #1 spot on itunes just got taken away from taylor by a tiktok country star... It's been a recurring trend over the year, and I recently watched this excellent video explaining this phenomenon. this is such an interesting video! thanks for it :) |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 15, 2020 6:54:59 GMT -5
Assuming we get the double album bomb and the willow number one debut, expect the charts to get rekt. Looks like the big dropouts are Martin & Gina, Don't Stop, Hit Different, Happy Anywhere, More Than My Hometown, Savage Love, and ROCKSTAR. WHATS POPPIN might be saved thanks to Jack Harlow's album dropping.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 15, 2020 7:09:22 GMT -5
Good recovery for Taylor on day 4.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Dec 15, 2020 7:36:41 GMT -5
Assuming we get the double album bomb and the willow number one debut, expect the charts to get rekt. Looks like the big dropouts are Martin & Gina, Don't Stop, Hit Different, Happy Anywhere, More Than My Hometown, Savage Love, and ROCKSTAR. WHATS POPPIN might be saved thanks to Jack Harlow's album dropping. So disappointed these two underperformed. Great songs that deserved better. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 15, 2020 8:05:19 GMT -5
I'm confused. The soundtrack is at #99 on the Billboard 200. It's literally charting on its own. What time element do you mean? Oh, it's already on the chart. I was confused when you said the soundtrack "will chart" on its own, as if it hadn't already. At the time I posted the charts had not yet been released. I said it that way because in theory the soundtrack could have missed the chart due to not enough sales/streams. |
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Post by fengyu on Dec 15, 2020 8:29:46 GMT -5
taylor holding 3 out of the top 4 spots on iTunes is like Dynamite all over again
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Post by jthentic on Dec 15, 2020 8:41:48 GMT -5
lonely witch is what "willow" sounds when it ends up in folklore. dancing witch is what "willow" sounds when it ends up in Lover. What's the next remix called? "willow" yodelling bitch remix π
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Post by shayonce on Dec 15, 2020 9:16:18 GMT -5
lol at another remix...
Billboard should've new rule as "additional remixes released midweek won't be counted".
simple and easy.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 15, 2020 9:19:31 GMT -5
Spotify Christmas Songs Update - 12/11/20:
6(-3) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 1,162,132 (-183,386)
8(-4) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You 1,091,128 (-184,396)
10(-5) Bobby Helm - Jingle Bell Rock 1,064,792 (-188,373)
12(-3) Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 1,012,539 (-178,837)
17(-5) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me 938,546 (-124,703)
18(-8) Wham! - Last Christmas 934,634 (-154,425)
21(-6) Michael BublΓ© - It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas 846,537 (-134,671)
30(-9) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree 738,389 (-109,664)
32(-6) Burl Ives - A Holly Holly Christmas 702,973 (-88,163)
33(-10) Frank Sinatra - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 687,900 (-127,370)
35(-2) Nat King Cole - The Christmas Song 660,837 (-79,816)
36(-5) JosΓ© Feliciano - Feliz Navidad 649,627 (-115,886)
42(-6) Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 608,682 (-111,094)
43(-6) The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride 604,582 (-107,893)
44(-5) Justin Bieber - Mistletoe 598,395 (-68,389)
51(-10) Michael BublΓ© - Holly Jolly Christmas 562,001 (-83,876)
54(-6) Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime 537,815 (-79,032)
56(-6) Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas 525,777 (-79,002)
59(-2) Bing Crosby, Ken Darby Singers, John Scott Trotter & His Orchestra - White Christmas 505,914 (-58,625)
66(-6) Perry Como, The Fontane Sisters - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas 469,105 (-71,844)
67(-6) Darlene Love - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 461,908 (-73,216)
68(-2) Chuck Berry - Run Rudolph Run 460,573 (-48,343)
70(-6) Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas 455,986 (-63,434)
75(-7) The Jackson 5 - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town 439,709 (-57,540)
84(-10) John Lennon, Yoko Ono - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) 410,617 (-44,759)
96(-15) Mykola Dmytrovych Leontovych, John Williams - Carol of the Bells 362,611 (-65,424)
100(-4) Nat King Cole - Joy to the World 352,836 (-39,596)
103(-11) Dean Martin - Baby, It's Cold Outside 348,863 (-50,539)
106(-15) Vince Guaraldi Trio - O Tannenbaum 347,262 (-53,546)
107(-9) Bing Crosby - Do You Hear What I Hear? 345,059 (-39,560)
108(-7) The Jackson 5 - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus 344,225 (-32,336)
113(-24) Bing Crosby - Winter Wonderland 341,407 (-66,237)
114(-24) Eartha Kitt, Henri Rene & His Orchestra - Santa Baby 340,699 (-64,900)
124(-19) Donny Hathaway - This Christmas 323,278 (-38,926)
129(-19) Frank Sinatra - Mistletoe and Holly 315,995 (-32,082)
130(-28) Judy Garland - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 313,664 (-60,839)
131(-27) Dean Martin - Silver Bells 312,858 (-54,028)
139(-18) The Beach Boys, Mark Linett, Sweet, Larry Walsh - Little Saint Nick 300,243 (-31,203)
143(-20) Mariah Carey - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 298,841 (-25,841)
145(-31) Brett Eldredge - Baby, It's Cold Outside 295,841 (-40,884)
158(-33) Gene Autry - Here Comes Santa Claus 278,319 (-43,844)
159(-20) Vince Guaraldi Trio - Christmas Time is Here 278,305 (-24,183)
166(debut) Sia - Snowman 272,117
169(-37) Burl Ives - Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 270,753 (-41,574)
175(-5) Jonas Brothers - Like It's Christmas 265,639 (-2,688)
179(-14) *NSYNC - Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays 274,765 (-15,765)
177(-48) Carpenters - Sleigh Ride 262,873 (-51,884)
184(-36) Bing Crosby, The Andrews Sisters - Mele Kalikimaka 257,339 (-34,494)
189(-53) Kylie Minogue - Santa Baby 252,831 (-52,227)
193(-26) Idina Menzel - Baby, It's Cold Outside 249,011 (-21,410)
194(-48) Thurl Ravenscroft - You're A Mean One, Mr. Grinch 247,850 (-44,480)
197(-25) Mariah Carey - Oh Santa! 246,337 (-21,079)
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 15, 2020 9:19:44 GMT -5
Good recovery for Taylor on day 4. What does that mean Spotify βdiscountedβ? I didnβt know there were discounts in Spotify. |
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Post by shayonce on Dec 15, 2020 9:21:31 GMT -5
What does that mean Spotify βdiscountedβ? I didnβt know there were discounts in Spotify. chart number vs counter number. chart numbers are low as Spotify filter some streams. |
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 15, 2020 9:48:47 GMT -5
How about we get a remix to βRockin Around The Christmas Treeβ feat. Mariah Carey. Brenda Lee can finally get her #1 and Mariah can nab her 20th #1. This would be something great for both of their teams to think of in coming years. Again, I don't think 76 year old Brenda Lee is that desperate to get RATCT to #1. Not 1 person is suggesting or has suggested that she is. |
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Post by Choco on Dec 15, 2020 9:51:56 GMT -5
New remix from taylor,it's out now..ok congratulations Taylor for another number one single with all of these desperate tricks please what's so desperate about the fact that she released two remixes π and they're actually remixes, not some collabs to attract certain fanbases Taylor Swift: desperate. BTS: omg Korean kings smash with 67 remixes  |
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Post by strongerq on Dec 15, 2020 9:53:20 GMT -5
What does that mean Spotify βdiscountedβ? I didnβt know there were discounts in Spotify. It should be "filtered" streams. The numbers that are shown on the Spotify counters are unfiltered, that is what the account meant by "discounts".
The streams that get filltered are noticable with dedicated fanbases who play songs on loop a lot, example:
unfiltered streams for the first week: BTS - BE - 183M Lady Gaga - Chromatica - 174m
filtered:
Chromatica - 170m BE - 154m
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 15, 2020 9:58:16 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 15, 2020 9:58:46 GMT -5
"willow" is hanging tough at No. 1 on Apple Music, which is pretty impressive for the genre it is.
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Post by shayonce on Dec 15, 2020 10:06:14 GMT -5
btw, willow hit #1 on AM due to remix. (daily chart combine the all version)
still her success in AM is just amazing. she's.. just it.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 15, 2020 10:09:13 GMT -5
^When I clicked the Kworb link for the chart the other day, it had listed the witch mix separately. Now, it just has one entry. Though it's true, either way, it's impressive. She has eight spots in the top 30 at AM.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 15, 2020 10:15:34 GMT -5
US Spotify - 12/12/2020
Taylor Swift - evermore
1(=) - willow 1,694,850 (+74,688)
2(=) - champagne problems 1,477,055 (+93,758)
3(+4) - 'tis the damn season 1,299,039 (+65,784)
4(+4) - gold rush 1,292,838 (+60,822)
5(+1) - no body, no count 1,285,230 (+44,740)
7(+4) - tolerate it 1,154,047 (+65,354)
9(+4) - happiness 1,077,634 (+49,159)
11(+5) - ivy 1,025,541 (+63,918)
14(+3) - dorothea 950,831 (+49,703)
15(+4) - long story short 949,919 (+58,683)
16(+2) - coney island 947,852 (+48,310)
19(+1) - evermore 902,362 (+49,125)
20(+2) - cowboy like me 879,768 (+55,509)
22(+5) - marjorie 844,514 (+58,423)
25(+10) - closure 780,814 (+49,350)
Total Streams: 16,562,294
Kid Cudi - Man on the Moon III: The Chosen
13(+1) - Tequila Shots 996,622 (-30,031)
27(+1) - She Knows This 757,780 (-13,885)
28(-3) - Show Out 755,759 (-46,035)
37(+1) - Another Day 647,885 (-52,895)
49(-4) - Mr. Solo Dolo III 564,029 (-58,363)
52(-3) - Dive 561,096 (-52,963)
55(=) - Sad People 530,293 (-42,162)
58(-5) - Heaven on Earth 523,206 (-55,121)
61(-2) - Damaged 493,851 (-53,428)
63(=) - The Void 486,930 (-38,522)
76(-5) - Rockstar Knights 438,203 (-36,214)
81(-4) - Lovin' Me 417,200 (-33,065)
82(-7) - Sept. 16 413,593 (-40,426)
83(-10) - Elsie's Baby Boy 412,724 (-43,755)
89(-6) - The Pale Moonlight 391,271 (-34,386)
97(-3) - Lord I Know 362,378 (-30,663)
98(-3) - 4 Da Kidz 360,673 (-31,963)
Total Streams (including Beautiful Trip with has 374,143): 9,487,636
Other:
23(+9) Ariana Grande - 34+35 788,228 (+30,687)
24(=) Bad Bunny, Jay Cortez - DΓKITI 782,212 (-22,905)
26(+8) Ariana Grande - positions 769,287 (+33,394)
29(+1) 24kGoldn - Mood 740,681 (-25,747)
31(-2) Internet Money - Lemonade 738,096 (-31,970)
34(+10) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 670,003 (+46,923)
38(+4) CJ - Whoopty 633,874 (-5,455)
39(+7) Juice WRLD - Reminds Me of You 629,727 (+8,485)
40(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Body 628,141 (-26,633)
41(+6) Lil Nas X - Holiday 624,027 (+4,703)
45(+11) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 590,987 (+25,087)
46(+8) Jack Harlow - Tyler Herro 580,534 (+6,587)
48(+3) Jack Harlow - Way Out 570,638 (-31,222)
60(+5) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 502,621 (-14,389)
74(-4) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN Remix 441,667 (-45,992)
77(+8) Dua Lipa - Levitating 434,657 (+16,321)
78(+10) Shawn Mendes - Monster 429,483 (+21,355)
79(+21) Wilbur Soot - Your New Boyfriend 420,258 (+38,216)
86(+13) The Kid LAROI - SO DONE 404,817 (+22,560)
88(+18) Tate McRae - you broke me first 394,768 (+33,511)
92(+16) Justin Bieber - Lonely 380,740 (+21,171)
94(+9) Jack Harlow - Face of My City 374,116 (+4,305)
95(+12) Miley Cyrus - Prisoner 369,220 (+8,258)
110(+9) Pop Smoke - Hello 343,744 (+10,814)
127(+20) CORPSE, Savage Ga$p- E-GIRLS ARE RUINING MY LIFE! (+26,385)
134(+7) DDG - Moonwalking in Calabasas 306,661 (+8,705)
147(+11) Ashnikko - Daisy 291,609 (+12,901)
148(+37) James Arthur - Train Wreck 289,998 (+32,495)
Biggest Gains (50K+): marjorie, cowboy like me, long story short, ivy, tolerate it, gold rush, 'tis the damn season, champagne problems, willow
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 15, 2020 10:21:25 GMT -5
"willow" is hanging tough at No. 1 on Apple Music, which is pretty impressive for the genre it is. Tbh I don't see how "willow" won't be #1 on the Hot 100. It is way ahead on Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and iTunes. "AIWFCIY" will have more airplay and it might have more streams on Amazon, but how is that enough to pass "willow" on the Hot 100? |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 15, 2020 10:48:25 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/12/15
1(=) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 136.03(-0.31)
2(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 115.61(+1.40)
3(+1) Justin Bieber - Holy (feat. Chance the Rapper) 108.16(+0.88)
4(-1) Ava Max - Kings & Queens 107.05(-0.64)
5(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later (feat. Lil Durk) 103.23(+0.06)
6(+1) Ariana Grande - positions 101.10(+1.38)
7(-1) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 98.11(-2.09)
8(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 75.71(-0.67) +
9(=) AJR - Bang! 69.59(+0.76)
10(=) Surf Mesa - ily (i love you baby) [feat. Emilee] 64.79(-1.53)
11(+1) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 62.31(+0.93)
17(+1) JhenΓ© Aiko - B.S. (feat. H.E.R.) 51.61(+1.21)
18(+1) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 51.55(+1.36) + 20(+1) Pop Smoke - For The Night (feat. Lil Baby & DaBaby) 49.30(+0.79)
22(+3) Parker McCollum - Pretty Heart 47.32(+0.85)
23(+3) Justin Bieber & benny blanco - Lonely 47.24(+2.63) 34(=) Lady A - Champagne Night (From Songland) 37.25(+0.93)
49(+1) Ariana Grande - 34+35 28.28(+1.41)
50(+1) Maluma & The Weeknd - HawΓ‘i (Remix) 27.94(+1.08) 51(+2) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 27.81(+1.63)
53(+2) Megan Thee Stallion - Body 27.26(+1.37) 59(+2) Bad Bunny & Jhay Cortez - DΓKITI 23.84(+1.23) 69(+4) Tate McRae - you broke me first 20.74(+0.81) 84(+7) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 16.37(+0.86)
-(-) Taylor Swift - willow (dancing witch version) [Elvira remix] 11.68(+1.93) -(-) VEDO - You Got It 3.78(+1.03) + -(-) Daddy Yankee & Marc Anthony - De Vuelta Pa' La Vuelta 3.45(+0.81)
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 15, 2020 11:37:46 GMT -5
Oh, it's already on the chart. I was confused when you said the soundtrack "will chart" on its own, as if it hadn't already. At the time I posted the charts had not yet been released. I said it that way because in theory the soundtrack could have missed the chart due to not enough sales/streams. Additionally 5 different versions of "AIWFCIY" by Mariah have charted on Holiday Digital Songs: #1 - Original #1 - SuperFestive! (duet with Bieber) #4 - Extra Festive #18 - Live At Tokyo Dome #25 - Magical Christmas Mix So, all of those are being counted as separate songs for Billboard charts. |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Dec 15, 2020 12:18:26 GMT -5
At the time I posted the charts had not yet been released. I said it that way because in theory the soundtrack could have missed the chart due to not enough sales/streams. Additionally 5 different versions of "AIWFCIY" by Mariah have charted on Holiday Digital Songs: #1 - Original #1 - SuperFestive! (duet with Bieber) #4 - Extra Festive #18 - Live At Tokyo Dome #25 - Magical Christmas Mix So, all of those are being counted as separate songs for Billboard charts. The only reasoning that makes sense is that the bottom 4 all have re-recorded vocals so Billboard considers them different songs from the original (when really, #4, #18, and #25 should be considered the same). |
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Post by rimetm on Dec 15, 2020 12:25:36 GMT -5
It's worth noting that Oh Santa! is a rerecord as well. If you listen to Mariah's parts, they're not the same takes as the original recording.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 15, 2020 12:51:09 GMT -5
Yet J Lo literally recorded a new song - twice, and it counted as the same lmao. I know a rule was implemented after that but it is funny how inconsistent they can be. I know artists and labels donβt make it easy either.
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