Billboard Hot 100: 01/09/2021

[thegreatdivine]

Jan 4, 2021 14:20:52 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

It's crazy that artists like Ed Sheeran, Taylor Swift and especially Lil Baby, Playboi Carti and Lil Durk, who should be streaming MONSTERS, are not doing enough to go top ten. It's not really a case of lack of songs, it's perhaps lack of people commuting to work or spending too much time home in general?

Very interesting to see Drake's numbers later.

You always make me laugh when you make statements like this.

Please, since when exactly have Lil Baby, Playboi Carti and Lil Durk ESPECIALLY been "streaming MONSTERS"? What have they done in the past with their songs/albums to be worthy of being categorized as that? Or did you just make that general assumption because they're rappers and rappers generally do well on streaming?

[chartfreak]

Jan 4, 2021 14:23:32 GMT -5 gikem said:

If anyone is interested, here are this week's Rolling Stone Top 20 songs, excluding the Christmas music:

1. Mood
2. Good Days
3. Lemonade
4. Dakiti
5. positions
6. Whoopty
7. Body
8. 34+35
9. willow
10. For the Night
11. Still Trappin’
12. On Me
13. Blinding Lights
14. Levitating
15. What You Know Bout Love
16. WAP
17. ROCKSTAR
18. WHATS POPPIN
19. Cry Baby
20. Forever After All

Why not included Xmas, since the Billboard Top 20 includes Xmas?

[nathanalbright]

Jan 4, 2021 13:19:03 GMT -5 iHype. said:

We will never be free from Blinding Lights.

Your new vampire overlord greets you.

[Enigma.]

Jan 4, 2021 14:35:20 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jan 4, 2021 14:20:52 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

It's crazy that artists like Ed Sheeran, Taylor Swift and especially Lil Baby, Playboi Carti and Lil Durk, who should be streaming MONSTERS, are not doing enough to go top ten. It's not really a case of lack of songs, it's perhaps lack of people commuting to work or spending too much time home in general?

Very interesting to see Drake's numbers later.

You always make me laugh when you make statements like this.

Please, since when exactly have Lil Baby, Playboi Carti and Lil Durk ESPECIALLY been "streaming MONSTERS"? What have they done in the past with their songs/albums to be worthy of being categorized as that? Or did you just make that general assumption because they're rappers and rappers generally do well on streaming?

Better laugh than cry lol

But Lil Baby had #1 album of the year, Lil Durk has a top ten hit now, Playboi Carti was super hyped when his album came out here. Do you think they are all struggling by accident? I don't think it's a coincidence really...

[jenglisbe]

Jan 4, 2021 13:23:54 GMT -5 ¤ Matthea ¤ said:

Jan 4, 2021 9:15:57 GMT -5 Choco said:

I find it funny that AIWFCIY is gonna be #8 on a chart dated January 9. The Billboard chart dates are so dumb.

Well, guess who is #1 on the Rolling Stone's TOP 100 Popular songs chart for that same week:

www.rollingstone.com/charts/songs/

Also, 'Last Christmas' is #1 in the UK and the first non-Christmas song on the chart is at #9.

People love Christmas music, even in the post-Christmas week. Charts are simply displaying the preferences of the general public.

Well, most of the stats getting those songs to #1 and the top 10 are from Christmas Day and then some the day after. They definitely fell way off 2 days after and on.

[atg]

Jan 4, 2021 13:23:37 GMT -5 Lost In Musical Reverie said:

Poor "Save Your Tears"...things are not looking good for you so far... 😬

It’s gaining on radio but i swear if it becomes a hawai (remix) situation i’m going to lose my mind

[gikem]

Jan 4, 2021 14:37:23 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

Jan 4, 2021 14:23:32 GMT -5 gikem said:

If anyone is interested, here are this week's Rolling Stone Top 20 songs, excluding the Christmas music:

1. Mood
2. Good Days
3. Lemonade
4. Dakiti
5. positions
6. Whoopty
7. Body
8. 34+35
9. willow
10. For the Night
11. Still Trappin’
12. On Me
13. Blinding Lights
14. Levitating
15. What You Know Bout Love
16. WAP
17. ROCKSTAR
18. WHATS POPPIN
19. Cry Baby
20. Forever After All

Why not included Xmas, since the Billboard Top 20 includes Xmas?

I'm not denying that the Christmas songs were popular during the previous tracking week (they absolutely were), but I'm mostly doing this as an experiment, especially for the few people who were not enthused about all of the radio- and sales-driven hits breaking back into the top 10.

I'm also looking into perhaps starting and maintaining a Rolling Stone Charts thread in this subforum in the near future, so this serves as a bit of a trial run for that.

[kcdawg13]

Blinding Lights is gonna reach 52 weeks in the Top 10, you'll see. Hell, Superbowl week it might even hit #1 again.

What an incredible run!

[thegreatdivine]

Jan 4, 2021 14:38:07 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Jan 4, 2021 14:35:20 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

You always make me laugh when you make statements like this.

Please, since when exactly have Lil Baby, Playboi Carti and Lil Durk ESPECIALLY been "streaming MONSTERS"? What have they done in the past with their songs/albums to be worthy of being categorized as that? Or did you just make that general assumption because they're rappers and rappers generally do well on streaming?

Better laugh than cry lol

But Lil Baby had #1 album of the year, Lil Durk has a top ten hit now, Playboi Carti was super hyped when his album came out here. Do you think they are all struggling by accident? I don't think it's a coincidence really...

My point wasn't about you saying streams are generally low for artists who usually perform well on streaming - that much is true and it's been that way for several months now, it's about you saying Lil Baby, Lil Durk (lol) and Playboi Carti (lmao) are "streaming MONSTERS" especially. They aren't and they've never been. All three of those artists scored their first top 10 hits courtesy of Drake (Lil Durk is only in the top 10 right now because he's featured on a Drake song and Playboi Carti couldn't even crack 150 million streams with a 5,000 track album and all the hype in the rap world) and only one of them has gone on to somewhat prove himself as a standalone streaming force and that's Lil Baby but even then, I wouldn't call him a streaming MONSTER.

As to your point about them struggling streaming-wise, anyone can easily refer to Spotify's daily charts or HDD's weekly Streaming Songs chart to see that streams are low, especially in the U.S., all across the board. It isn't just a select number of artists who are struggling. It's everyone.

[dovahduck]

As soon as I saw Enigma's response to TheGreatDivine, I knew exactly what was going to follow lmao. Never change Pulse, never change... ❤️

[lurker2]

Jan 4, 2021 15:09:08 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jan 4, 2021 14:38:07 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Better laugh than cry lol

But Lil Baby had #1 album of the year, Lil Durk has a top ten hit now, Playboi Carti was super hyped when his album came out here. Do you think they are all struggling by accident? I don't think it's a coincidence really...

My point wasn't about you saying streams are generally low for artists who usually perform well on streaming - that much is true and it's been that way for several months now, it's about you saying Lil Baby, Lil Durk (lol) and Playboi Carti (lmao) are "streaming MONSTERS" especially. They aren't and they've never been. All three of those artists scored their first top 10 hits courtesy of Drake (Lil Durk is only in the top 10 right now because he's featured on a Drake song and Playboi Carti couldn't even crack 150 million streams with a 5,000 track album and all the hype in the rap world) and only one of them has gone on to somewhat prove himself as a standalone streaming force and that's Lil Baby but even then, I wouldn't call him a streaming MONSTER.

As to your point about them struggling streaming-wise, anyone can easily refer to Spotify's daily charts or HDD's weekly Streaming Songs chart to see that streams are low, especially in the U.S., all across the board. It isn't just a select number of artists who are struggling. It's everyone.

I'd let him have Baby, My Turn was a giant on AM. But calling Lil Durk a streaming monster is a real wth moment. No one expected him to do as good as he did!

[Henry Suárez]

Jan 4, 2021 14:23:32 GMT -5 gikem said:

If anyone is interested, here are this week's Rolling Stone Top 20 songs, excluding the Christmas music:

1. Mood
2. Good Days
3. Lemonade
4. Dakiti
5. positions
6. Whoopty
7. Body
8. 34+35
9. willow
10. For the Night
11. Still Trappin’
12. On Me
13. Blinding Lights
14. Levitating
15. What You Know Bout Love
16. WAP
17. ROCKSTAR
18. WHATS POPPIN
19. Cry Baby
20. Forever After All

I'm not a fan of the Hot 100 nowadays but the issue with Rolling Stone chart is that it's basically similar to the Billboard Streaming Songs chart, they don't count Radio so that's a problem imo.

[thegreatdivine]

lurker2 I mean, I'd call Lil Baby a streaming force but he definitely isn't a streaming monster to me. He was outstreamed by Juice WRLD, Pop Smoke and NBA YoungBoy this year despite dropping his album earlier than all of them (before the pandemic hit and streaming was still relatively strong) and releasing a deluxe version that did well. Lil Durk and Playboi Carti are completely out of the question.

[jayhawk1117]

Pleaaaase let BL die 😭. I don't even dislike the song but dear God y'all not tired??

[thegreatdivine]

Jan 4, 2021 15:31:43 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Pleaaaase let BL die 😭. I don't even dislike the song but dear God y'all not tired??

For Abel's sake, I hope it goes as far as it possibly can because he'll never score another hit as big as this ever again.

[Choco]

Curious about where "Body" and "34+35" placed. Those plus maybe "DAKITI" feel like top 10 hits atm.

[Deleted]

Jan 4, 2021 12:43:42 GMT -5 GP said:

Arriving at the Levitating Top10 party!

Yup, I'm here at the party. On another note, is it just me, or does Levitating sound a little bit like this underrated gem from a few years ago?

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jan 4, 2021 15:34:15 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jan 4, 2021 15:31:43 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Pleaaaase let BL die 😭. I don't even dislike the song but dear God y'all not tired??

For Abel's sake, I hope it goes as far as it possibly can because he'll never score another hit as big as this ever again.

I don't think anyone will for a long while, but I doubt his days of scoring big hits are done. Tbh, I didn't think he'd top the Starboy era. I'm looking forward to his next era and pair of monster hits. With that said, I hope Blinding Lights continues to shatter on all favs! The hit that made hits!

[Choco]

There's plenty of room between "Blinding Lights"-size monster hits and flops for him to continue a successful, hit-filled career.

[kalmanta]

Blinding Light vs. the other After Hour singles. We hate to see it.

[Lost In Musical Reverie]

We thought "Love Me Harder" was a fluke pop collaboration for him, then assumed he got lucky with "Earned It", then with the rest of the "Beauty Behind The Madness" era, only for him to prove everyone wrong again with the "Starboy" era.

Hell, I vividly remember folks predicting The Weeknd would underperform this era given how little longevity "My Dear Melancholy" + the one-offs had, and once again, he proved us wrong.

[GP]

Jan 4, 2021 15:49:37 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Jan 4, 2021 15:34:15 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

For Abel's sake, I hope it goes as far as it possibly can because he'll never score another hit as big as this ever again.

I don't think anyone will for a long while, but I doubt his days of scoring big hits are done. Tbh, I didn't think he'd top the Starboy era. I'm looking forward to his next era and pair of monster hits. With that said, I hope Blinding Lights continues to shatter on all favs! The hit that made hits!

a few months ago I thought that it kinda sucked for him to get a big of a hit to ruin his era, but honestly, even if the other singles don'y do well and people don't really go and buy the album, he already suceeded in having a huge career-defining, century-defining megahit

[gikem]

So far, Blinding Lights at #3 and Watermelon Sugar at #47 are the only returning entries from Recurrents that have been confirmed by Billboard.

[Deleted]

Jan 4, 2021 16:00:13 GMT -5 Lost In Musical Reverie said:

We thought "Love Me Harder" was a fluke pop collaboration for him, then assumed he got lucky with "Earned It", then with the rest of the "Beauty Behind The Madness" era, only for him to prove everyone wrong again with the "Starboy" era.

Hell, I vividly remember folks predicting The Weeknd would underperform this era given how little longevity "My Dear Melancholy" + the one-offs had, and once again, he proved us wrong.

Of all the stuff that mystifies me in today's music market, this is by far the biggest one, I just don't get it. At all.

why does it matter if a song is a one off or the lead single.  Why does everyone just not care about mixtapes vs real albums.

a song by an artist you love is still a song, no matter if it's a one off or a lead.  And the general public, just doesn't care one way or the other if a song is a one off or a lead and in most cases has no clue as to which it is.

yet the whole thing does seem to matter and make a huge difference, It's just bizarre.  I've never judged a song beciasd of its status. It's the song that matters and that is all that should matter.  I get the potential lack of promotion, but this goes beyond simply being able to write all the cases off as simply due to that.

are people really that fickle nowadays they'll toss aside a song simply because it's a one off?

[GP]

Jan 4, 2021 16:13:15 GMT -5 @dey said:

Jan 4, 2021 16:00:13 GMT -5 Lost In Musical Reverie said:

We thought "Love Me Harder" was a fluke pop collaboration for him, then assumed he got lucky with "Earned It", then with the rest of the "Beauty Behind The Madness" era, only for him to prove everyone wrong again with the "Starboy" era.

Hell, I vividly remember folks predicting The Weeknd would underperform this era given how little longevity "My Dear Melancholy" + the one-offs had, and once again, he proved us wrong.

Of all the stuff that mystifies me in today's music market, this is by far the biggest one, I just don't get it. At all.

why does it matter if a song is a one off or the lead single.  Why does everyone just not care about mixtapes vs real albums.

a song by an artist you love is still a song, no matter if it's a one off or a lead.  And the general public, just doesn't care one way or the other if a song is a one off or a lead and in most cases has no clue as to which it is.

yet the whole thing does seem to matter and make a huge difference, It's just bizarre.  I've never judged a song beciasd of its status. It's the song that matters and that is all that should matter.  I get the potential lack of promotion, but this goes beyond simply being able to write all the cases off as simply due to that.

are people really that fickle nowadays they'll toss aside a song simply because it's a one off?

I actually think it's the other way around. Promo still pays a huge deal, and even more now when fans can engage a lot and influence chart positions.mp3 more.

but one-offs have been occuring more and more. look at Without Me, Sam Smith's one-off duets with Normani, Ava's multiple pre album singles. None of those were promoted as lead singles whatsoever. Neither were Dakiti, Lemonade, Therefore I Am for example..

[thegreatdivine]

Y'all, I never said he'd never score another hit or even that he'd never score another big hit. I just believe hits like Blinding Lights only happen once in a career, twice if you're the luckiest person on the planet. I said the same thing about Ed Sheeran and Shape of You. He's never scoring another hit that big ever again.

Hell, most musicians never score hits that huge to begin with so them even doing that means they've already won.

[waluigionascooter]

Jan 4, 2021 15:45:24 GMT -5 @gabingston said:

Jan 4, 2021 12:43:42 GMT -5 GP said:

Arriving at the Levitating Top10 party!

Yup, I'm here at the party. On another note, is it just me, or does Levitating sound a little bit like this underrated gem from a few years ago?

Levitating reminds me more of this super underrated jam from 2015

[mzumii]

Jan 4, 2021 15:31:43 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Pleaaaase let BL die 😭. I don't even dislike the song but dear God y'all not tired??

I kinda feel like a hypocrite because I wanted Circles to stay on the Hot 100 chart forever but I'm really tired of Blinding Lights at this point

[thegreatdivine]

I forgot to congratulate Dua Lipa on scoring another top 10 hit! Future Nostalgia remained my favorite album of 2020 from it's release till the year came to an end and Levitating was my second-favorite song off the album.

I still remember being mad that it wasn't getting pushed as a single early enough but her and her team played it really smart with having DaBaby hop on the remix. He actually elevated the song and the music video is really visually appealing and well done. I watch it almost every day. A very well-deserved top 10 hit.

[starlord]

Jan 4, 2021 15:34:15 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jan 4, 2021 15:31:43 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Pleaaaase let BL die 😭. I don't even dislike the song but dear God y'all not tired??

For Abel's sake, I hope it goes as far as it possibly can because he'll never score another hit as big as this ever again.

Are we already talking about another BL?? There are  literally chances 99.99% of current artist not making another BL. The difference betn "making a hit" and "Blinding Lights" could be of 200 songs. Even the 200th song on GOAT  hot 100 list could be a sizeable hit.