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Post by gikem on Jan 4, 2021 16:54:27 GMT -5
So B.S. returned at #59 this week, despite already having over 20 weeks and not going past #50. I didn't see a single chart predictor include it in their predictions for those reasons. Could anyone explain why this might have happened besides the obvious Christmas vacuum?
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Post by iamsorare on Jan 4, 2021 16:56:08 GMT -5
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Post by Abbaschand on Jan 4, 2021 16:57:48 GMT -5
Levitating reminds me more of this super underrated jam from 2015 Without a doubt, Derulo's greatest song. |
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Jan 4, 2021 17:02:24 GMT -5
Yup, I'm here at the party. On another note, is it just me, or does Levitating sound a little bit like this underrated gem from a few years ago? Levitating reminds me more of this super underrated jam from 2015 "Levitating" reminds me more of "Cheyenne" than "Sit Next to Me" and yes, "Cheyenne" is so underrated!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 17:08:12 GMT -5
Are we already talking about another BL?? There are literally chances 99.99% of current artist not making another BL. The difference betn "making a hit" and "Blinding Lights" could be of 200 songs. Even the 200th song on GOAT hot 100 list could be a sizeable hit. it can happen any time. I don't think as a circles was going on, we thought about half way through it's run thst something would immediately follow and erase it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 17:10:42 GMT -5
So B.S. returned at #59 this week, despite already having over 20 weeks and not going past #50. I didn't see a single chart predictor include it in their predictions for those reasons. Could anyone explain why this might have happened besides the obvious Christmas vacuum? An error? Wouldn't be too surprising something slipped through in the chaos this week. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jan 4, 2021 17:14:14 GMT -5
Y'all, I never said he'd never score another hit or even that he'd never score another big hit. I just believe hits like Blinding Lights only happen once in a career, twice if you're the luckiest person on the planet. I said the same thing about Ed Sheeran and Shape of You. He's never scoring another hit that big ever again. Hell, most musicians never score hits that huge to begin with so them even doing that means they've already won. Although, in Ed's case, I'd consider his case as being twin big hits, as he followed up Shape of You with Perfect, another all-time big hit. (Remember, there was an ongoing argument on here in 2017 on whether Starboy was a bigger album than Divide... that is, until Perfect settled the argument, once and for all.) But you are right, The Weeknd may have another The Hills or Ed Sheeran another Thinking Out Loud, but I highly doubt they'll score hits as big as Blinding Lights/Shape of You/Perfect ever again. Abel should drag out Blinding Lights as far as he can, like Ed did with Perfect. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 17:16:40 GMT -5
Of all the stuff that mystifies me in today's music market, this is by far the biggest one, I just don't get it. At all. why does it matter if a song is a one off or the lead single. Why does everyone just not care about mixtapes vs real albums. a song by an artist you love is still a song, no matter if it's a one off or a lead. And the general public, just doesn't care one way or the other if a song is a one off or a lead and in most cases has no clue as to which it is. yet the whole thing does seem to matter and make a huge difference, It's just bizarre. I've never judged a song beciasd of its status. It's the song that matters and that is all that should matter. I get the potential lack of promotion, but this goes beyond simply being able to write all the cases off as simply due to that. are people really that fickle nowadays they'll toss aside a song simply because it's a one off? I actually think it's the other way around. Promo still pays a huge deal, and even more now when fans can engage a lot and influence chart positions.mp3 more. but one-offs have been occuring more and more. look at Without Me, Sam Smith's one-off duets with Normani, Ava's multiple pre album singles. None of those were promoted as lead singles whatsoever. Neither were Dakiti, Lemonade, Therefore I Am for example.. Yet I still continually see comments about how such and such is not the lead etc and how That therefore makes sense that the song is performing such and such. As well all the frequent comments about it's not the lead, wait for the lead and such and such artist will be fine. |
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Post by kimberly on Jan 4, 2021 17:17:57 GMT -5
So B.S. returned at #59 this week, despite already having over 20 weeks and not going past #50. I didn't see a single chart predictor include it in their predictions for those reasons. Could anyone explain why this might have happened besides the obvious Christmas vacuum? it's probably gained in at least two metrics. |
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Post by Limited Edition on Jan 4, 2021 17:35:55 GMT -5
Now it needs to get streams. Drop the music video somewhere around Super Bowl and there's a possibility for another hit |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jan 4, 2021 17:41:14 GMT -5
random fun fact:
Blinding Lights (highest) positions during weeks at #1 of 2020 #1 songs:
Circles #59
The Box #2
Toosie Slide #2
The Scotts #2
Say So #3
Stuck With U #4
Savage #3
Rain On Me #4
Rockstar #2
Trollz #5
Cardigan #5
Watermelon Sugar #4
WAP #3
Dynamite #5
Franchise #6
Savage Love #6
Positions #5
Life Goes On #9
All I Want For Christmas Is You #7
Willow #18
Blinding Lights shared the top 10 with every 2020 #1 song, except willow. AND it was in higher position than every #1 song at some point (before or after they were #1), except positions.
also, it was on the chart during the reign of 21 #1s songs (every #1 above + Heartless).
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 4, 2021 17:42:38 GMT -5
#3 of All-Time, holy fuck. In one year!
It'll definitely get #2, #1 will be really tricky and unfortunately I don't see it passing The Twist. But this song has surprised me many times, so who knows.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 4, 2021 17:43:49 GMT -5
We thought "Love Me Harder" was a fluke pop collaboration for him, then assumed he got lucky with "Earned It", then with the rest of the "Beauty Behind The Madness" era, only for him to prove everyone wrong again with the "Starboy" era. Hell, I vividly remember folks predicting The Weeknd would underperform this era given how little longevity "My Dear Melancholy" + the one-offs had, and once again, he proved us wrong. Of all the stuff that mystifies me in today's music market, this is by far the biggest one, I just don't get it. At all. why does it matter if a song is a one off or the lead single. Why does everyone just not care about mixtapes vs real albums. a song by an artist you love is still a song, no matter if it's a one off or a lead. And the general public, just doesn't care one way or the other if a song is a one off or a lead and in most cases has no clue as to which it is. yet the whole thing does seem to matter and make a huge difference, It's just bizarre. I've never judged a song beciasd of its status. It's the song that matters and that is all that should matter. I get the potential lack of promotion, but this goes beyond simply being able to write all the cases off as simply due to that. are people really that fickle nowadays they'll toss aside a song simply because it's a one off? I think a lot of what goes into liking a song for some is the situation surrounding it. I know for me, one offs often don’t come with the same level of promo which can make them seem like less of a big deal so I’m less inclined to invest as much time into it as I might with an album single, particularly if I end up digging the album. Compare Gaga’s The Cure to nearly every other single. I probably haven’t listened to The Cure in a couple years whereas I put on her albums pretty routinely. I even have The Cure on playlists but I haven’t really felt a desire to seek it out. Plus, lead singles just tend to get more promo anyway so more people are going to even simply know of its existence over a random one-off. |
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Post by gikem on Jan 4, 2021 17:45:14 GMT -5
If anyone is interested, here are this week's Rolling Stone Top 20 songs, excluding the Christmas music: 1. Mood 2. Good Days 3. Lemonade 4. Dakiti 5. positions 6. Whoopty 7. Body 8. 34+35 9. willow 10. For the Night 11. Still Trappin’ 12. On Me 13. Blinding Lights 14. Levitating 15. What You Know Bout Love 16. WAP 17. ROCKSTAR 18. WHATS POPPIN 19. Cry Baby 20. Forever After All I'm not a fan of the Hot 100 nowadays but the issue with Rolling Stone chart is that it's basically similar to the Billboard Streaming Songs chart, they don't count Radio so that's a problem imo. Well, right now the Hot 100 is basically mirroring the radio charts because of how weak the other categories are, so my point stands. |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Jan 4, 2021 17:47:49 GMT -5
Pleaaaase let BL die 😭. I don't even dislike the song but dear God y'all not tired?? I kinda feel like a hypocrite because I wanted Circles to stay on the Hot 100 chart forever but I'm really tired of Blinding Lights at this point Huh, I’m the reverse. “Circles” was just....there, but BL has something to prove post-GRAMMYs. Every week is a middle finger to the academy. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jan 4, 2021 17:51:46 GMT -5
I kinda feel like a hypocrite because I wanted Circles to stay on the Hot 100 chart forever but I'm really tired of Blinding Lights at this point Huh, I’m the reverse. “Circles” was just....there, but BL has something to prove post-GRAMMYs. Every week is a middle finger to the academy. Thank you! This is the reason why I'm still rooting for the song. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 4, 2021 17:53:30 GMT -5
I love Circles, it's a great song. BUT Blinding Lights just feels way bigger, it feels like the biggest song of all time.
And the argument against the Grammys is great, BL is gonna continue to prove how bad the Academy got it.
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Post by firefox on Jan 4, 2021 18:03:45 GMT -5
Yup, I'm here at the party. On another note, is it just me, or does Levitating sound a little bit like this underrated gem from a few years ago? Levitating reminds me more of this super underrated jam from 2015 I've been thinking this for a long time I'm glad somebody opens this up but Levitating reminds me of this song |
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Post by GP on Jan 4, 2021 18:29:08 GMT -5
I actually think it's the other way around. Promo still pays a huge deal, and even more now when fans can engage a lot and influence chart positions.mp3 more. but one-offs have been occuring more and more. look at Without Me, Sam Smith's one-off duets with Normani, Ava's multiple pre album singles. None of those were promoted as lead singles whatsoever. Neither were Dakiti, Lemonade, Therefore I Am for example.. Yet I still continually see comments about how such and such is not the lead etc and how That therefore makes sense that the song is performing such and such. As well all the frequent comments about it's not the lead, wait for the lead and such and such artist will be fine. Well if I ever would use that comment, would be due to lack of promo. Most non-lead or non-album singles often get next to no attention from artists themselves. |
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Post by jodakyellow on Jan 4, 2021 18:31:32 GMT -5
Of all the stuff that mystifies me in today's music market, this is by far the biggest one, I just don't get it. At all. why does it matter if a song is a one off or the lead single. Why does everyone just not care about mixtapes vs real albums. a song by an artist you love is still a song, no matter if it's a one off or a lead. And the general public, just doesn't care one way or the other if a song is a one off or a lead and in most cases has no clue as to which it is. yet the whole thing does seem to matter and make a huge difference, It's just bizarre. I've never judged a song beciasd of its status. It's the song that matters and that is all that should matter. I get the potential lack of promotion, but this goes beyond simply being able to write all the cases off as simply due to that. are people really that fickle nowadays they'll toss aside a song simply because it's a one off? I think a lot of what goes into liking a song for some is the situation surrounding it. I know for me, one offs often don’t come with the same level of promo which can make them seem like less of a big deal so I’m less inclined to invest as much time into it as I might with an album single, particularly if I end up digging the album. Compare Gaga’s The Cure to nearly every other single. I probably haven’t listened to The Cure in a couple years whereas I put on her albums pretty routinely. I even have The Cure on playlists but I haven’t really felt a desire to seek it out. Plus, lead singles just tend to get more promo anyway so more people are going to even simply know of its existence over a random one-off. I agree 100% with all of this — but for me personally "The Cure" is the exception that proves the rule. It's one of my favorite songs of hers (maybe even #1?), so it transcends its status as a one-off. But I can relate — my streams of "Sweeter than Fiction" or "Ronan" pale next to Taylor Swift's album tracks. I don't like them any less, but I certainly think about them less, and am less likely to put in the extra effort to listen to them. |
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Post by chartfreak on Jan 4, 2021 20:57:11 GMT -5
Love that 2 of the longest charting songs, Circles and Blinding Lights, are two of the greatest songs. I don't know anyone that dislikes either one.
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Post by chartfreak on Jan 4, 2021 21:00:37 GMT -5
Now it needs to get streams. Drop the music video somewhere around Super Bowl and there's a possibility for another hit Video drops tomorrow.... |
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Post by fengyu on Jan 4, 2021 21:09:19 GMT -5
We will never be free from Blinding Lights. more like we will never be free form Dynamite... |
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Post by fridayteenage on Jan 4, 2021 21:16:18 GMT -5
Love that 2 of the longest charting songs, Circles and Blinding Lights, are two of the greatest songs. I don't know anyone that dislikes either one. I don't like either one. |
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Post by Choco on Jan 4, 2021 21:27:04 GMT -5
Love that 2 of the longest charting songs, Circles and Blinding Lights, are two of the greatest songs. I don't know anyone that dislikes either one. I don't like either one. I hope you have a Spotify premium subscription otherwise randomized playlists or radio must be hell for you lol. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 4, 2021 21:27:59 GMT -5
Love that 2 of the longest charting songs, Circles and Blinding Lights, are two of the greatest songs. I don't know anyone that dislikes either one. While I don't dislike Circles, it is quite meh to me. It wasn't as big in Europe as it was in the US. Sizeable hit, of course. But Rockstar is by far Post's biggest hit over here. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 4, 2021 21:54:59 GMT -5
I hope you have a Spotify premium subscription otherwise randomized playlists or radio must be hell for you lol. Not if you use it through a desktop browser. Playlists play in the order cited and only once in a while do a get a short 30 second commercial interruption. I have tried the Windows 10 and Android app and I agree the experience is quite annoying as you say. |
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Post by Groovy on Jan 4, 2021 22:10:43 GMT -5
I guess I'm only that wants Blinding Lights to stay around, Save Your Tears is a fine song but Blinding Lights is way better.
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Post by chartfreak on Jan 4, 2021 22:24:19 GMT -5
Love that 2 of the longest charting songs, Circles and Blinding Lights, are two of the greatest songs. I don't know anyone that dislikes either one. I don't like either one. I don't know you. I'm talking about people around me, friends in social circles, no pun intended. I know there are people here that don't like them, but Pulse along with Twitter is not the general public. |
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