Billboard Hot 100: 03/13/2021

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Mar 1, 2021 7:56:14 GMT -5 gikem said:

Mar 1, 2021 4:19:51 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

yeah. She threw “Cuz I Love You” out there and it (unsurprisingly) died quickly. That was it, idk where the ‘multiple flops’ narrative is coming from

Juice was also a single from that album, and despite it being one of her best-known songs, it peaked at #82. I have no idea if it was just a matter of promotional cycles not lining up or what, but that song should’ve been absolutely huge on the charts and yet it just wasn’t.

In the context of the all-population Hot 100, Juice doesn’t look like a big hit. But it was pretty well known in specific demographics and certain audiences, and I think that’s important. One thing to keep in mind about the Hot 100 and the album chart is that it takes into account everyone across all metrics (as best it can, for better or worse). It’s essentially the top of the ladder/can’t get any better (in theory) unless you’re going for top of the world.
Most musicians and new artists might have realistic goals and targets that are more specific and for someone like Lizzo, she wasn’t known in a general sense yet but she was likely a pretty big deal in some circles and within those circles, Juice could have been huge.

I think of it like Kyle Minogue. She’s recognizable to many of us. I’m betting to a general audience she’s not that well known unless they lived through 2003 and still remember her from that. In the gay world, she’s a legend.

[thegreatdivine]

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Mar 1, 2021 7:56:14 GMT -5 gikem said:

Mar 1, 2021 4:19:51 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

yeah. She threw “Cuz I Love You” out there and it (unsurprisingly) died quickly. That was it, idk where the ‘multiple flops’ narrative is coming from

Juice was also a single from that album, and despite it being one of her best-known songs, it peaked at #82. I have no idea if it was just a matter of promotional cycles not lining up or what, but that song should’ve been absolutely huge on the charts and yet it just wasn’t.

Bingo. “Juice” sputtered and died at pop radio several weeks into its run due to the success of “Truth Hurts”, later re-entering the Hot 100 (without airplay either) at #82. “Good As Hell” then began to take off (not to mention “Boys” going viral and bubbling under, too). There just wasn’t enough room for “Juice”. By the time it could’ve been a single, it was wayyyy past its moment.

[Groovy]

Mar 1, 2021 11:40:41 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Mar 1, 2021 11:16:51 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Since it looks like Blinding Lights finally peaked in every metric, when do you think it's gonna leave the top 10 and why do you think it's when it COVID ends?

Funny you think it will ever leave the Top 10

To be fair, I did say when COVID ended. 

[renfield75]

Mar 1, 2021 12:27:37 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Mar 1, 2021 7:56:14 GMT -5 gikem said:

Juice was also a single from that album, and despite it being one of her best-known songs, it peaked at #82. I have no idea if it was just a matter of promotional cycles not lining up or what, but that song should’ve been absolutely huge on the charts and yet it just wasn’t.

In the context of the all-population Hot 100, Juice doesn’t look like a big hit. But it was pretty well known in specific demographics and certain audiences, and I think that’s important. One thing to keep in mind about the Hot 100 and the album chart is that it takes into account everyone across all metrics (as best it can, for better or worse). It’s essentially the top of the ladder/can’t get any better (in theory) unless you’re going for top of the world.
Most musicians and new artists might have realistic goals and targets that are more specific and for someone like Lizzo, she wasn’t known in a general sense yet but she was likely a pretty big deal in some circles and within those circles, Juice could have been huge.

I think of it like Kyle Minogue. She’s recognizable to many of us. I’m betting to a general audience she’s not that well known unless they lived through 2003 and still remember her from that. In the gay world, she’s a legend.

So true. Robyn's "Call Your Girlfriend" and "Dancing On My Own" are arguably much more well-known now than her actual top ten hits from the late 90s but they did nothing on the Hot 100. Garth Brooks' "Friends In Low Places" is one of the biggest songs of the 90s but it wasn't a Hot 100 hit. Total streaming numbers, and airplay and digital sales for older songs, often tell the story just as well (if not better than) the Hot 100.

[jenglisbe]

Mar 1, 2021 12:42:19 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Mar 1, 2021 11:40:41 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Funny you think it will ever leave the Top 10

To be fair, I did say when COVID ended. 

I think it was a reference to COVID never ending.

[Gary]

With week 64 of Blinding Lights in the books and still in the top 5

A look at where the previous songs to make it to week 65 stood


24 Radioactive, Imagine Dragons
32 I'm Yours, Jason Mraz
32 Sail, AWOLNATION
41 How Do I Live, LeAnn Rimes
45 Party Rock Anthem, LMFAO Featuring Lauren Bennett & GoonRock
45 Counting Stars, OneRepublic
47 Foolish Games/You Were Meant For Me, Jewel
49 Rolling In The Deep, Adele

[ddlz]

[nak]

Wait why is Beautiful Mistakes with Megan and Maroon 5 being released on a Wednesday?

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Mar 1, 2021 18:18:14 GMT -5 nak said:

Wait why is Beautiful Mistakes with Megan and Maroon 5 being released on a Wednesday?

maybe they’re going for an early debut situation like “lose you to love me” & “heartless”

[gikem]

Mar 1, 2021 18:52:44 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

Mar 1, 2021 18:18:14 GMT -5 nak said:

Wait why is Beautiful Mistakes with Megan and Maroon 5 being released on a Wednesday?

maybe they’re going for an early debut situation like “lose you to love me” & “heartless”

It helps that Maroon 5 tends to be more reliant on radio traction these days, and since the radio tracking week is Monday-Sunday, it's easier for them to get on the charts early and get the attention they want than if they decided to wait until this Friday's stacked release schedule that includes Justin Bieber and Bruno Mars/Silk Sonic.

They did something similar with the remix of Girls Like You.

[Choco]

Also Maroon 5 doesn't usually have a huge ass debut, they build their airplay numbers over a few weeks, so there's no incentive to go all out on the first week.

[Gary]

If it's destined to be a hit, it really doesn't matter what day of the week it is released

[forg]

Lizzo kinda had a lucky break when Truth Hurts became viral because of that Netflix movie. It's something that's hard to replicate really, she did get another top 10 with another old song Good As Hell so not bad capitalizing on the accidental breakout. Her songs became TV staples whether licensed on TV shows or used in commercials, she's savvy too. She just signed up with Amazon for a TV producing deal, so music is not just what she focuses on right now

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

early preds by Talk of the Charts

#1 drivers license 284
#2 Up 236
#3 Blinding Lights 219
#4 34+35 213
#5 Save Your Tears 208
#6 Go Crazy 206
#7 Mood 192
#8 Calling My Phone 178
#9 What You Know Bout Love 166
#10 positions 164

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

^ don't forget "telepatía" at #36!!!

[firefox]

not Hot 100 related but this is so funny 

[gikem]

Don’t think anyone has mentioned this yet, but DJ Snake and Selena Gomez are releasing a track together called “Selfish Love” on Thursday. I doubt it will debut early (EDM doesn’t quite have the pull it had in the mid-2010s), but I can see it impacting the same week as the new Bieber and Silk Sonic tracks.

[Enigma.]

Telepatía #3 on Spotify, SMASH

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 03/01/21

1(=) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 1,186,806 (+37,219)
2(=) Lil Tjay, 6LACK - Calling My Phone 1,115,209 (+20,509)
3(+1) Kali Uchis - telepatía 970,317 (+99,613)
4(-1) Cardi B - Up 898,849 (+8,438)
5(=) SZA - Good Days 877,162 (+28,850)
6(=) Doja Cat - Streets 807,575 (+20,263)
7(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 805,464 (+24,529)
8(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 643,422 (-26,841)
9(=) Pooh Shiesty - Back in Blood 625,394 (-7,149)
10(+6) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 575,767 (+33,498)

Others:
11(-1) 24kGoldn - Mood 570,080 (-37,510)
12(+3) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 566,400 (+19,283)
13(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 560,871 (+4,115)
14(+3) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 556,611 (+22,097)
15(-1) Saweetie - Best Friend 543,808 (-10,243)
16(-5) CJ - Whoopty 542,420 (-25,739)
17(-5) Bad Bunny, Jhay Cortez - DÁKITI 537,568 (-20,826)
18(+2) Giveon - HEARTBREAK ANNIVERSARY 529,106 (+42,007)
19(=) Ariana Grande - 34+35 521,608 (+1,966)
22(-1) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 461,687 (-20,538)
23(+3) Ariana Grande - positions 454,904 (+12,326)
26(+5) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 418,756 (+13,190)
27(+6) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 414,454 (+26,142)
29(=) Lil Baby - On Me 409,635 (-7,698)
30(+13) Tate McRae - you broke me first 404,098 (+36,673)
32(=) Post Malone - Only Wanna Be With You 399,612 (+2,084)
34(+2) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 395,542 (+12,101)
36(+1) Travis Scott, HVME - Goosebumps 388,707 (+6,584)
37(-2) Pop Smoke - AP 384,955 (-192)
38(+13) Justin Bieber - Anyone 377,788 (+33,194)
39(+2) Pop Smoke - Hello 377,081 (+7,477)
43(+6) Dua Lipa - We're Good 369,568 (+21,774)
45(=) YBN Nahmir - Opp Stoppa 361,529 (+6,626)
48(=) Morgan Wallen - Sand In My Boots 357,035 (+8,697)
49(+6) ElyOtto - SugarCrash! 353,806 (+20,919)
55(+3) DUSTY LOCANE - ROLLIN N CONTROLLIN FREESTYLE 330,809 (+2,487)
58(-5) Bad Bunny, ROSALÍA - LA NOCHE DE ANOCHE 326,513 (-10,187)
59(+9) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 324,034 (+28,079)
60(-3) Megan Thee Stallion - Cry Baby 322,509 (-7,426)
65(+1) Luke Combs - Better Together 312,670 (+15,338)
69(+6) Tiësto - The Business 294,719 (+11,997)
78(+7) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 280,633 (+15,741)
82(+27) SpotemGottem - Beat Box 3 277,486 (+33,469)
88(=) Brent Faiyaz - Dead Man Walking 273,391 (+11,603)
93(+76) Ty Dolla $ign - Spicy 260,638 (+52,510)
94(+32) Clinton Kane - CHICKEN TENDIES 259,396 (+27,495)
100(-7) Ariana Grande - test drive 256,654 (+2,833)

106(-3) DaBaby - Masterpiece 246,592 (-670)
107(+17) Harry Styles - Golden 246,127 (+13,694)
108(+15) DDG - Moonwalking in Calabasas Remix 246,102 (+13,248)
110(-9) BRS Kash - Throat Baby (Go Baby) Remix 243,178 (-5,571)
112(-7) Ariana Grande - 34+35 Remix 242,744 (-3,103)
116(-8) Myke Towers, Juhn - Bandido 239,980 (-4,575)
121(+19) Brent Faiyaz, DJ Dahi - Gravity 238,265 (+13,026)
123(-2) Yung Bleu - You’re Mines Still 237,072 (+3,539)
124(+26) NF - CLOUDS 235,657 (+17,912)
129(+19) carolesdaughter - Violent 232,704 (+14,174)
146(-17) Chris Brown, Young Thug - Go Crazy 224,270 (-4,542)
164(=) Black Eyed Peas, Shakira - GIRL LIKE ME 213,597 (+3,821)
165(-5) MoneyBagg Yo - Time Today 213,260 (+2,035)
169(+6) MEDUZA - Paradise 212,432 (+5,901)
183(re-entry) Ava Max - My Head & My Heart 202,608

Biggest Gaines (50K+): Spicy, telepatía

[Groovy]

Is Dynamite going recurrent this week?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates | 2021/03/02

1(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 130.45(-0.78)
2(=) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 118.59(+2.15)
3(=) Ariana Grande - positions 107.10(-0.06)
4(=) Ariana Grande - 34+35 (Remix) [feat. Doja Cat & Megan Thee Stallion] 104.89(-0.01)
5(=) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 102.82(-0.70)
6(=) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 94.49(+0.91)
7(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 86.65(-0.02)
8(=) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 85.95(-0.06)
9(=) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 77.11(+1.07)
10(+1) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 69.88(+1.70)

31(=) Niko Moon - GOOD TIME 46.18(+1.04)

36(+1) Cardi B - Up 40.73(+0.90)

38(=) Ava Max - My Head & My Heart 40.01(+0.77)

39(+2) H.e.r. - Damage 39.27(+0.90)

46(+1) Yung Bleu & Drake - You're Mines Still 34.83(+0.75)

49(+1) Saweetie - Best Friend (feat. Doja Cat) 32.67(+0.73)

60(+3) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 27.90(+0.85)

67(=) Lil Baby - On Me 24.82(+0.87)

68(+1) Jake Owen - Made for You 24.62(+0.77)

[gikem]

Mar 2, 2021 9:36:56 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Is Dynamite going recurrent this week?

It's more likely than not, but I've been wrong about its run way too many times to be 100% sure.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Yeah. Digital Song Sales is the only thing keeping it alive.

[divasummer]

Feb 28, 2021 18:41:41 GMT -5 gikem said:

Feb 28, 2021 18:23:56 GMT -5 Gary said:

If the original was a big radio hit, years ago, it is not unheard of for the cover to be a radio hit too

Yes, I'm aware that Put Your Records On exists. However, in that case, unless they were near AC or Hot AC radio in 2006, most Americans don't remember the original song because it faded from constant radio rotation fairly quickly. So while it sucks that the mediocre cover is charting much higher as of now, I don't blame those who weren’t aware of the original's existence before the cover surfaced.

The original Only Wanna Be With You has had a lot more staying power in that regard.

I wasn't really listening to AC radio in 06 but follow pop culture I guess and remember the original very well.
I was never huge on it though.
I may be mistaken but I feel like the song was everywhere? lol. Did it win Grammy's?? Maybe it got Grammy attention that year?
I think it was sang on a decent amount of talent contests through out the years so maybe that kept it in my memory.
When I looked at it's stats I don't know how I remember it so much??

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

In chart related news, Ryn Weaver’s “Pierre” is looking to debut at #49 on the UK Singles Chart. the past seven years of stanning someone who fell off the face of the earth has been worth it

I hope it can crossover here. If “Arcade” can do it, why not “Pierre”

[chartfreak]

Mar 2, 2021 7:51:38 GMT -5 gikem said:

Don’t think anyone has mentioned this yet, but DJ Snake and Selena Gomez are releasing a track together called “Selfish Love” on Thursday. I doubt it will debut early (EDM doesn’t quite have the pull it had in the mid-2010s), but I can see it impacting the same week as the new Bieber and Silk Sonic tracks.

I hope this is crazy good, cuz I need some new EDM.

[phieaglesfan712]

Mar 2, 2021 11:27:41 GMT -5 divasummer said:

Feb 28, 2021 18:41:41 GMT -5 gikem said:

Yes, I'm aware that Put Your Records On exists. However, in that case, unless they were near AC or Hot AC radio in 2006, most Americans don't remember the original song because it faded from constant radio rotation fairly quickly. So while it sucks that the mediocre cover is charting much higher as of now, I don't blame those who weren’t aware of the original's existence before the cover surfaced.

The original Only Wanna Be With You has had a lot more staying power in that regard.

I wasn't really listening to AC radio in 06 but follow pop culture I guess and remember the original very well.
I was never huge on it though.
I may be mistaken but I feel like the song was everywhere? lol. Did it win Grammy's?? Maybe it got Grammy attention that year?
I think it was sang on a decent amount of talent contests through out the years so maybe that kept it in my memory.
When I looked at it's stats I don't know how I remember it so much??

The original PYRO was not as big on radio, but it was everywhere on music TV channels, especially VH1 in 2006.

Let's not forget, though, Ritt's version of PYRO flopped in its initial pre-Christmas 2020 run.

[iHype.]

When was the last time a cover of a song made top 10 on Mainstream radio, or Overall radio?

I don't remember any since DHT's "Listen to Your Heart" in 2005, but there has to probably be one or two after. It reached #1 on Mainstream/Pop radio, but actually peaked #11 on Overall.

[degen]

Mar 1, 2021 19:51:09 GMT -5 forg said:

Lizzo kinda had a lucky break when Truth Hurts became viral because of that Netflix movie. It's something that's hard to replicate really, she did get another top 10 with another old song Good As Hell so not bad capitalizing on the accidental breakout. Her songs became TV staples whether licensed on TV shows or used in commercials, she's savvy too. She just signed up with Amazon for a TV producing deal, so music is not just what she focuses on right now

I’m afraid to say that I just don’t think Lizzo will ever replicate the success she had in 2019 on the charts. Her “Cuz I Love You” album wasn’t really a hit, despite how successful her old songs became. And now she has simply waited too long, I can see new music she releases being dead on arrival. But yes, her songs are everywhere in commercials, tv shows, etc. She is still making a lot of money from all these license deals. She’s basically like a new Sia. No big fanbase, but she’s been a Walmart commercial staple for many years despite not having a hit single since like 2016.