Billboard Hot 100: 03/27/2021

[thegreatdivine]

Apple Music US update
Wants and Needs, What's Next and Lemon Pepper Freestyle remain at #1, #2 & #4 respectively. Up is down 3 positions to #8 and Leave the Door Open is up 5 positions to #10.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Holy, Tyler Herro, Golden, and possibly Throat Baby will be gone this week.

[kimberly]

Mar 16, 2021 4:06:16 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

It's pretty obvious that nobody watched the Grammys or Golden Globes (or, coming up, the Oscars) because there's not a lot of interest in watching a celebration of a year that was completely malaise and had almost no memorable cultural events. To most people, it's like the entertainment world essentially came to a halt in 2020, and in fact that's still the way it seems. Until the pandemic is over and enough of a memory for people to move on, the monoculture is essentially dead. People will just keep indulging in old shows, music, and movies to remind themselves of better times.

this is not true. Globes were apparently a mess (didn't watch), but the Grammys put on a really great show and the numbers are starting to show it. Dua's performance garnered almost 10M views in 24 hours, while Cardi/Meg made it onto Fox News, and those along with Harry's, Lil Baby's, and Silk Sonic's performances have been trending all day. Megan and Beyoncé's acceptance speech was #3 trending all day, and Taylor's speech was also trending, both surpassing 2.5M views. I saw dozens of viral (I'm talking 100k+) tweets about the show, whether it's praising Megan, Harry, Dua, Beyoncé or Silk Sonic. not to mention BTS stans giving the show extra free publicity with their outrageous behavior like sending death threats to Lady Gaga and calling the show racist because their fave lost. 

times have changed. people do not watch TV or even have cable subscriptions anymore. but the awards season, as much as people claim they're "scammys" and "over" etc every single year, is an accessible way to capture and celebrate the cultural zeitgeist. 

music industry was hit hard by the pandemic, much like other parts of entertainment, but that's mainly because touring ceased and a lot of huge stars were in their off years. still, there was a lot of great new music—from Fetch the Bolt Cutters to folklore and Future Nostalgia, some very strong albums received recognition last night. 

people have always listened to more old music than new. I don't have the data on how much the ratio has changed during the pandemic, but I believe current releases used to make up slightly less than a third of music consumption prior to it. 

[phieaglesfan712]

Mar 16, 2021 4:24:42 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Apple Music US update
Wants and Needs, What's Next and Lemon Pepper Freestyle remain at #1, #2 & #4 respectively. Up is down 3 positions to #8 and Leave the Door Open is up 5 positions to #10.

Up falling down is a huge surprise, and I think this pretty much assures that Leave the Door Open will be #1 on the Hot 100. It's outselling Up almost 4-to-1, and the gap on radio will continue to shrink with LTDO's rapid rise on that metric.

[jthentic]

Fuck you Grammys

[Enigma.]

Grammys have nothing to do with that lol, the stans just decided to buy it.

[thegreatdivine]

Mar 16, 2021 5:19:11 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Mar 16, 2021 4:24:42 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Apple Music US update
Wants and Needs, What's Next and Lemon Pepper Freestyle remain at #1, #2 & #4 respectively. Up is down 3 positions to #8 and Leave the Door Open is up 5 positions to #10.

Up falling down is a huge surprise, and I think this pretty much assures that Leave the Door Open will be #1 on the Hot 100. It's outselling Up almost 4-to-1, and the gap on radio will continue to shrink with LTDO's rapid rise on that metric.

I wanted Up to go #1 next but I'm fine either way tbh. Leave the Door Open was my favorite release from the new music that dropped 2 Fridays ago and it's my favorite single so far this year so I'm also here for it reaching #1.

Up is still stable on streaming and gaining on radio but it may need some sort of boost to reach #1 after Leave the Door Open does.

[thegreatdivine]

Mar 16, 2021 5:58:15 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Grammys have nothing to do with that lol, the stans just decided to buy it.

As a f**k you to BTS being snubbed by the Grammys, lol. That's why they bought that much in 1 day. I won't be surprised if Dynamite flies back up into the top 20 on Monday.

[jthentic]

Mar 16, 2021 5:58:15 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Grammys have nothing to do with that lol, the stans just decided to buy it.

Disconnected with twitter? 😬

[Enigma.]

But the BTS army has always randomly bought it just to make it back to chart? Of course Grammy gave extra publicity but you're blind if you think that the Army hasn't arranged a mass buying event to boost it further.

[jthentic]

Dude i get that... But this week context does matter (10000+ sales in a day isnt random)
just stop....

[meg]

Some of you really is a bunch of boomers here. BTS got almost 100k new followers on instagram and twitter, 80k new followers on spotify. All that since Grammys. No one planned any mass buying after Grammy.

You all don't have any idea what is happening on twitter. You see one or two tweets and make a story from it (like that bs about armys sending death threads to Gaga).

Those sales spikes always happen after BTS perform on american award shows because despite all your hate, people love their performances and song when they are exposed to them. You can also see articles calling their performance the best thing of the show. All the talk is about BTS and their snub. No one is talking about Rain on me. So even if they lost, they won anyway.

[jdanton2]

Bruno hopefully goes #1 . he got blocked last week from Drake . also Cardi's two collabs with Bruno were more deserved than Up.

[Enigma.]

Not a big Grammy boost on Spotify for the new tracks, Silk Sonic climb to #2 but with low streams.

[Xander]

Mar 16, 2021 5:19:11 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Mar 16, 2021 4:24:42 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Apple Music US update
Wants and Needs, What's Next and Lemon Pepper Freestyle remain at #1, #2 & #4 respectively. Up is down 3 positions to #8 and Leave the Door Open is up 5 positions to #10.

Up falling down is a huge surprise, and I think this pretty much assures that Leave the Door Open will be #1 on the Hot 100. It's outselling Up almost 4-to-1, and the gap on radio will continue to shrink with LTDO's rapid rise on that metric.

Not so fast. If he probably continues to rise on the both platforms, maybe. But one day of boost won’t obliterate up’s lead.

[violentdreams]

Mar 16, 2021 5:05:19 GMT -5 kimberly said:

Mar 16, 2021 4:06:16 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

It's pretty obvious that nobody watched the Grammys or Golden Globes (or, coming up, the Oscars) because there's not a lot of interest in watching a celebration of a year that was completely malaise and had almost no memorable cultural events. To most people, it's like the entertainment world essentially came to a halt in 2020, and in fact that's still the way it seems. Until the pandemic is over and enough of a memory for people to move on, the monoculture is essentially dead. People will just keep indulging in old shows, music, and movies to remind themselves of better times.

this is not true. Globes were apparently a mess (didn't watch), but the Grammys put on a really great show and the numbers are starting to show it. Dua's performance garnered almost 10M views in 24 hours, while Cardi/Meg made it onto Fox News, and those along with Harry's, Lil Baby's, and Silk Sonic's performances have been trending all day. Megan and Beyoncé's acceptance speech was #3 trending all day, and Taylor's speech was also trending, both surpassing 2.5M views. I saw dozens of viral (I'm talking 100k+) tweets about the show, whether it's praising Megan, Harry, Dua, Beyoncé or Silk Sonic. not to mention BTS stans giving the show extra free publicity with their outrageous behavior like sending death threats to Lady Gaga and calling the show racist because their fave lost. 

times have changed. people do not watch TV or even have cable subscriptions anymore. but the awards season, as much as people claim they're "scammys" and "over" etc every single year, is an accessible way to capture and celebrate the cultural zeitgeist. 

music industry was hit hard by the pandemic, much like other parts of entertainment, but that's mainly because touring ceased and a lot of huge stars were in their off years. still, there was a lot of great new music—from Fetch the Bolt Cutters to folklore and Future Nostalgia, some very strong albums received recognition last night. 

people have always listened to more old music than new. I don't have the data on how much the ratio has changed during the pandemic, but I believe current releases used to make up slightly less than a third of music consumption prior to it. 

Twitter is very unimportant in the grand scheme of things and not as many people use it as you might think. I've seen tons of random nonsense get 100k+ likes that nobody on a wide scale cares about. It's hard to drive interest in a show celebrating a year that has deeply negative connotations for most people and also one where they can barely remember most of the cultural events from. I've heard your theory expressed plenty, but I'm just not sold that streaming is the only thing making these award shows lose 50%+ of their viewership. You're right that it has nothing to do with Stan Twitter's petty grievances, but I'm pretty convinced that most of the fault lies with people just being disinterested in cultural events for the time being. The people who are still connected with the zeitgeist are in the vast minority right now, which is why streaming for the current hits is in such a pathetic state. That's my theory anyways. We'll see who's right when this era is a distant memory that we can look back on and evaluate with no tunnel vision.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

There’s just a huge disconnect between what award shows recognize and what people are watching/listening to. But because there aren’t many titles getting widespread attention (particularly in music, though looking at the list of Oscar nominees, the only title I’ve seen is Soul and the ones I’ve heard of I can probably count on one hand). Just like with the hot 100, most people only know or are familiar with a handful of all the songs/artists represented at music award shows, even in the main categories. So why bother watching something only to know a few songs?

[jenglisbe]

Mar 16, 2021 7:32:42 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

There’s just a huge disconnect between what award shows recognize and what people are watching/listening to. But because there aren’t many titles getting widespread attention (particularly in music, though looking at the list of Oscar nominees, the only title I’ve seen is Soul and the ones I’ve heard of I can probably count on one hand). Just like with the hot 100, most people only know or are familiar with a handful of all the songs/artists represented at music award shows, even in the main categories. So why bother watching something only to know a few songs?

I know people who watch the Grammys to discover music. Even people here were commenting how they'd never heard Mickey Guyton before and loved the performance. Even with its problems, the Grammys does give exposure to different genres of music, so people who tend to stay in one lane get some exposure to things in other lanes.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

At the rate US Spotify's going, it could have a day soon with no songs with more than 1 million daily streams.

[iamsorare]

Mar 16, 2021 7:51:09 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

At the rate US Spotify's going, it could have a day soon with no songs with more than 1 million daily streams.

it already happened in the beginning of this year spotifycharts.com/regional/us/daily/2021-01-05

[gikem]

Mar 16, 2021 7:51:09 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

At the rate US Spotify's going, it could have a day soon with no songs with more than 1 million daily streams.

Not that it hasn't happened before - 34+35 managed to spend its entire time at #1 on US Spotify with less than 1M daily streams.

[kalmanta]

Mar 16, 2021 7:32:42 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

There’s just a huge disconnect between what award shows recognize and what people are watching/listening to. But because there aren’t many titles getting widespread attention (particularly in music, though looking at the list of Oscar nominees, the only title I’ve seen is Soul and the ones I’ve heard of I can probably count on one hand). Just like with the hot 100, most people only know or are familiar with a handful of all the songs/artists represented at music award shows, even in the main categories. So why bother watching something only to know a few songs?

Of the 8 songs nominated for Record oty, 6 hit the top 10, of those only one didn’t hit the top 2. Taylor Swift and Beyoncé are two of the biggest and well-known artists ever, Megan was everywhere last year and Billie reaches the GenZ crowd like nobody else. I don’t think that’s the problem for the Grammys.

[jayhawk1117]

Mar 16, 2021 6:30:14 GMT -5 meg said:

Some of you really is a bunch of boomers here. BTS got almost 100k new followers on instagram and twitter, 80k new followers on spotify. All that since Grammys. No one planned any mass buying after Grammy.

You all don't have any idea what is happening on twitter. You see one or two tweets and make a story from it (like that bs about armys sending death threads to Gaga).

Those sales spikes always happen after BTS perform on american award shows because despite all your hate, people love their performances and song when they are exposed to them. You can also see articles calling their performance the best thing of the show. All the talk is about BTS and their snub. No one is talking about Rain on me. So even if they lost, they won anyway.

is it bs though.... I'm very certain that it is indeed happening... I don't think it's all stans mass buying it (again) but I think it's very fair to assume it is stans buying the song mostly. No one's talking about Rain On Me because it peaked nearly a year ago and the award was during the main ceremony.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Mar 16, 2021 8:10:34 GMT -5 kalmanta said:

Mar 16, 2021 7:32:42 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

There’s just a huge disconnect between what award shows recognize and what people are watching/listening to. But because there aren’t many titles getting widespread attention (particularly in music, though looking at the list of Oscar nominees, the only title I’ve seen is Soul and the ones I’ve heard of I can probably count on one hand). Just like with the hot 100, most people only know or are familiar with a handful of all the songs/artists represented at music award shows, even in the main categories. So why bother watching something only to know a few songs?

Of the 8 songs nominated for Record oty, 6 hit the top 10, of those only one didn’t hit the top 2. Taylor Swift and Beyoncé are two of the biggest and well-known artists ever, Megan was everywhere last year and Billie reaches the GenZ crowd like nobody else. I don’t think that’s the problem for the Grammys.

Even still, what is considered a big hot 100 hit now doesn’t have the same reach as a hot 100 hit 20+ years ago. Most people aren’t tuning into the same sources for music like they were before. You can avoid the top names in music today where they were unavoidable before simply by having more choice on where you get your new music from. It’s not a problem for the Grammys or even the charts themselves. But it’s likely a contributing factor that the Grammys have to take into consideration.

[Choco]

Other than the truly huge stuff like "Shape Of You", "Despacito", "Old Town Road" or "Blinding Lights", if you're not using radio you can probably avoid most of the Hot 100 hits if not interested. Just a consequence of the new ways in which we consume music.

[jthentic]

Mar 16, 2021 6:30:14 GMT -5 meg said:

Some of you really is a bunch of boomers here. BTS got almost 100k new followers on instagram and twitter, 80k new followers on spotify. All that since Grammys. No one planned any mass buying after Grammy.

You all don't have any idea what is happening on twitter. You see one or two tweets and make a story from it (like that bs about armys sending death threads to Gaga).

Those sales spikes always happen after BTS perform on american award shows because despite all your hate, people love their performances and song when they are exposed to them. You can also see articles calling their performance the best thing of the show. All the talk is about BTS and their snub. No one is talking about Rain on me. So even if they lost, they won anyway.

Fair enough. But do general US audience get amped up (who btw gave it a phenomenal net pos score of 20 on airplay) by those performances & buy it? Probably few (Itunes sales, streaming nos shows spike but not to a lvl of 10k sales in a day lmao) & it's nuts to presume general audience storm their websites for d2c 😬😅

[phieaglesfan712]

Up already stalling on radio, while LTDO posts a +4.17 update.

[thegreatdivine]

Leave the Door Open sure is flying up radio. It gained +4.17M impressions today.

[thegreatdivine]

Mar 16, 2021 9:11:16 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Up already stalling on radio, while LTDO posts a +4.17 update.

Apparently, it's currently leading the streaming race for the week so maybe that'll be enough for it to move up to #1.

[jayhawk1117]

Hoping for Up because LTDO will SURELY get to number one the week after