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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 6, 2021 5:39:24 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't see how Taylor would have been a contender for Best Country Album had she submitted "Fearless (Taylor's Version)". Seems ridiculous and frankly insulting to the other artists that the Academy would even consider nominating and let alone rewarding a re-recorded version of a beloved country classic that was already rightfully recognized in the past - though that would also apply to the underappreciated projects like "Speak Now" and "Taylor Swift" - as much as I love them. Ha, well they nominated Beyonce for a live version of "Halo" the year after she won for the recorded version of same song, so...
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Post by Sugar Rush on Nov 7, 2021 14:28:01 GMT -5
So who do we think this year's big snub is gonna be?!?! Last year it seems my voo doo impacted The Weekend (#JusticeForAfterHours), so this year I am not even gonna try to make a suggestion of who may be snub.
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Post by spiritboy on Nov 7, 2021 15:59:26 GMT -5
Imagine if they snub Olivia. I can't imagine the meltdowns and anger (by her fans, not herself).
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 7, 2021 16:07:11 GMT -5
Call me crazy but…I’m feeling a bit unsure about Taylor Swift and her chances with getting much love for evermore. It’s a crowded pop field for the general categories this year, and even if they wanted to go by way of including it as a more country/indie/Americana representative, Chris Stapleton and Brandi Carlile are huge threats for her.
IDK. I feel like they might see it fit to allow last year’s historic win with folklore to kind of tide over the whole folk+ever era.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Nov 7, 2021 16:52:10 GMT -5
I think Brandi will be the snub. She could have had a couple Americana noms but no way is she getting in pop. Meanwhile, next year when her album is deemed eligible only for pop, she won’t get in there either.
I don’t even know who to predict for what categories because of all this mess.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 7, 2021 20:24:48 GMT -5
Call me crazy but…I’m feeling a bit unsure about Taylor Swift and her chances with getting much love for evermore. It’s a crowded pop field for the general categories this year, and even if they wanted to go by way of including it as a more country/indie/Americana representative, Chris Stapleton and Brandi Carlile are huge threats for her. IDK. I feel like they might see it fit to allow last year’s historic win with folklore to kind of tide over the whole folk+ever era. She's never been truly snubbed, but each time after she won AOTY she didn't get many major nods the next time so that could happen, especially since evermore never felt like it took off. Having said that, there are so many unknowns this year because of the elimination of those panels. We don't have any real patterns to go off.
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Post by Sugar Rush on Nov 7, 2021 21:02:03 GMT -5
Call me crazy but…I’m feeling a bit unsure about Taylor Swift and her chances with getting much love for evermore. It’s a crowded pop field for the general categories this year, and even if they wanted to go by way of including it as a more country/indie/Americana representative, Chris Stapleton and Brandi Carlile are huge threats for her. IDK. I feel like they might see it fit to allow last year’s historic win with folklore to kind of tide over the whole folk+ever era. Honestly for Taylor I am really not expecting anything beyond a Pop Vocal Album nomination, maybe - MAYBE - album of the year? Willow could potentially get song but I'd be quite surprised if that's the case. Now that Brandi is being pushed to pop, which is ridiculous, I think she has 0 chance at getting a nomination.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 10, 2021 14:01:59 GMT -5
Random thought — should there be a rock representative in AOTY this year, anyone else think it could be Miley? She’s had a solid year, and the album was received pretty positively across the board (both commercially and critically).
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Post by Sugar Rush on Nov 11, 2021 0:42:41 GMT -5
Random thought — should there be a rock representative in AOTY this year, anyone else think it could be Miley? She’s had a solid year, and the album was received pretty positively across the board (both commercially and critically). Perhaps, but the Grammys really have not been fond of Miley - hasn't she only ever received one Grammy nomination? Despite putting out quality work, I feel voters have a hard time believing her authenticity with her work because every new album she releases she will talk badly about the previous one and almost act as if the previous release did not represent her. I think Plastic Hearts was a great album - but I would be surprised to see her get a Rock Album nomination, let alone an Album of the Year. I'd put more money on St. Vincent finally getting an AoTY nomination to represent rock / alternative rock.
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Post by Night Senses on Nov 11, 2021 4:29:25 GMT -5
Can someone kindly explain what the removal of committees would change, historically, moving forward? Is this going to cause some big shift that sees artists getting nominated that typically wouldn’t, or vice versa? I’m very ill-informed on the matter.
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Nov 17, 2021 14:46:13 GMT -5
Can someone kindly explain what the removal of committees would change, historically, moving forward? Is this going to cause some big shift that sees artists getting nominated that typically wouldn’t, or vice versa? I’m very ill-informed on the matter. In the past, the committees would be given a list of the top 20 vote getting songs/albums, and they (the committee) would decide on the final nominees. Ultimately, the song/album/artist who got the 20th more votes COULD end up as a final nominee over the 1st place vote getter if the committee decided so. By eliminating the committees, the top vote getters are the nominees. Full stop.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 17, 2021 21:10:51 GMT -5
Can someone kindly explain what the removal of committees would change, historically, moving forward? Is this going to cause some big shift that sees artists getting nominated that typically wouldn’t, or vice versa? I’m very ill-informed on the matter. In the past, the committees would be given a list of the top 20 vote getting songs/albums, and they (the committee) would decide on the final nominees. Ultimately, the song/album/artist who got the 20th more votes COULD end up as a final nominee over the 1st place vote getter if the committee decided so. By eliminating the committees, the top vote getters are the nominees. Full stop. It should be noted that, by and large, the committees were seen as helping the strength and diversity of nominations. The reason the committees were formed is because acts like Tony Bennett, the 3 Tenors, etc were getting nominated and winning the big categories while music that was seen as more relevant (and good) was being left out. Immediately after the formation of the committees we started seeing acts like Alanis Morissette, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, and The Fugees in the big categories. The funny thing is, the committees helped acts like Beyonce get nominations, but the lack of committees voting for the winners is what helped someone like Beck beat her for Album of the Year. So, I am very interested to see the nominations. If the nominations are more like what we got in 1993 or 1995, will people want to put the committees back in place? Night Senses
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Post by Night Senses on Nov 19, 2021 4:14:45 GMT -5
In the past, the committees would be given a list of the top 20 vote getting songs/albums, and they (the committee) would decide on the final nominees. Ultimately, the song/album/artist who got the 20th more votes COULD end up as a final nominee over the 1st place vote getter if the committee decided so. By eliminating the committees, the top vote getters are the nominees. Full stop. It should be noted that, by and large, the committees were seen as helping the strength and diversity of nominations. The reason the committees were formed is because acts like Tony Bennett, the 3 Tenors, etc were getting nominated and winning the big categories while music that was seen as more relevant (and good) was being left out. Immediately after the formation of the committees we started seeing acts like Alanis Morissette, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, and The Fugees in the big categories. The funny thing is, the committees helped acts like Beyonce get nominations, but the lack of committees voting for the winners is what helped someone like Beck beat her for Album of the Year. So, I am very interested to see the nominations. If the nominations are more like what we got in 1993 or 1995, will people want to put the committees back in place? Night SensesIncredibly interesting. Thanks, guys. I’m more curious about the nominations now more than ever before. Very hot take on Beck vs. Beyoncé. But I knew she wasn’t winning AOTY when she lost her genre award to Pharrell. I pretty much saw the writing on the wall, no pun intended.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 19, 2021 8:00:12 GMT -5
It should be noted that, by and large, the committees were seen as helping the strength and diversity of nominations. The reason the committees were formed is because acts like Tony Bennett, the 3 Tenors, etc were getting nominated and winning the big categories while music that was seen as more relevant (and good) was being left out. Immediately after the formation of the committees we started seeing acts like Alanis Morissette, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, and The Fugees in the big categories. The funny thing is, the committees helped acts like Beyonce get nominations, but the lack of committees voting for the winners is what helped someone like Beck beat her for Album of the Year. So, I am very interested to see the nominations. If the nominations are more like what we got in 1993 or 1995, will people want to put the committees back in place? Night SensesIncredibly interesting. Thanks, guys. I’m more curious about the nominations now more than ever before. Very hot take on Beck vs. Beyoncé. But I knew she wasn’t winning AOTY when she lost her genre award to Pharrell. I pretty much saw the writing on the wall, no pun intended. Album wins for Beck, Ray Charles, and Herbie Hancock were very in line with what was happening pre-committee when Tony Bennett, Eric Clapton, and Bonnie Raitt won. The committees brought more diverse nominees, not necessarily more diverse winners (though OutKast and some others did breakthrough). It will definitely be interesting. Having 8 nominees should at least help.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Nov 19, 2021 8:09:29 GMT -5
I don’t even know how to approach making any kind of predictions this year. Are we expecting them to be less mainstream focused (ie, more unexpected surprises) or more predictable with familiar names and titles?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Nov 22, 2021 22:03:25 GMT -5
Just made my predictions. I hope everyone I included is actually eligible lmao. I feel like this year is gonna be a shitshow. Can't wait! http://instagram.com/p/CWmjdApMhAl
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 23, 2021 0:17:26 GMT -5
If/When Finneas gets a BNA nom, I expect there to be some major confusion/potential backlash.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Nov 23, 2021 4:26:24 GMT -5
I honestly don’t know what to expect. Fairly sure Måneskin & Olivia Rodrigo will do well. Idk about H.E.R., I don’t know if she was carried by the committee or if the popular vote is on her side, too. Billie always does well.
I think Doja will do well, but I don’t know. They don’t seem super enthusiastic about her (likely because of Luke). So should LNX.
SZA’s “Good Days” deserves noms, but I’m unsure, though Jacob collier’s involvement should help a ton.
Jazmine Sullivan will probably be robbed of Big 4 noms.
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Post by Kurt on Nov 23, 2021 7:39:45 GMT -5
Posting these here so I can laugh at myself in a little bit. {nom nom noms}AOTY: Back Of My Mind Certified Lover Boy evermore Good News Medicine At Midnight MONTERO Planet Her SOUR Stand For Myself Starting Over
ROTY: Dakiti drivers license Forever After All Good Days Happier Than Ever Kiss Me More Leave The Door Open MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) Peaches Up
SOTY: Cold drivers license Forever After All Good Days Happier Than Ever Kiss Me More Leave The Door Open Peaches Right On Time willow
BNA: Arlo Parks Baby Keem Celeste Gabby Barrett Jimmie Allen Måneskin Olivia Rodrigo Polo G Saweetie The Kid LAROI
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Post by born on Nov 23, 2021 7:57:14 GMT -5
Wow Kurt, I never considered "Forever After All" for SOTY but now that I think about it, it makes more sense than Chris Stapleton (who would've been a lock with "Starting Over").
In other news, I overpredicted H.E.R. again. I think the whole genre debacle will not work in Brandi Carlile's favor and she will miss out in the General Field. And I'm still torn on Ed Sheeran's chances to get ROTY, SOTY, BPSP for "Bad Habits". I have a feeling he will overperform.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 23, 2021 11:18:20 GMT -5
Just a reminder before we see who's nominated
The Grammys should not be taken seriously and are not a serious measure of what is culturally important in music and should be cancelled along with the Oscars because both have been incapable of properly celebrating and pushing forward truly innovative art
In the 21st Century, it's just another show for performances and fashion
now let's all get mad at the noms and snubs
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Post by spiritboy on Nov 23, 2021 11:32:46 GMT -5
Wow Kurt, I never considered "Forever After All" for SOTY but now that I think about it, it makes more sense than Chris Stapleton (who would've been a lock with "Starting Over"). In other news, I overpredicted H.E.R. again. I think the whole genre debacle will not work in Brandi Carlile's favor and she will miss out in the General Field. And I'm still torn on Ed Sheeran's chances to get ROTY, SOTY, BPSP for "Bad Habits". I have a feeling he will overperform.[/b] Nah, he'll be overlooked again. He didn't get nominated for any major categories with Shape Of You and Divide.
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Post by spiritboy on Nov 23, 2021 11:33:36 GMT -5
I hope Billie Eilish will get some noms, especially for AOTY cause the album is brilliant.
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Post by Choco on Nov 23, 2021 11:35:35 GMT -5
I'm sure the nods are gonna be a mess. I can't wait for the meltdowns. Who's gonna be snubbed this year? I have a terrible feeling that Olivia will do far worse than expected, but hopefully I'm wrong.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 23, 2021 11:52:03 GMT -5
Wow Kurt, I never considered "Forever After All" for SOTY but now that I think about it, it makes more sense than Chris Stapleton (who would've been a lock with "Starting Over"). In other news, I overpredicted H.E.R. again. I think the whole genre debacle will not work in Brandi Carlile's favor and she will miss out in the General Field. And I'm still torn on Ed Sheeran's chances to get ROTY, SOTY, BPSP for "Bad Habits". I have a feeling he will overperform. Nah, he'll be overlooked again. He didn't get nominated for any major categories with Shape Of You and Divide. The committee decided that, though. The committee isn't in place now. Considering he's won SOTY and ultimately won 2 Pop awards the year the committee snubbed him, he certainly has had the favor of the overall body in the past. "BH" wasn't as big of a hit as those other songs so I don't consider him a lock, but I don't think using the committee snubbing him is a good example for the new process.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Nov 23, 2021 11:54:54 GMT -5
The heat is on!
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Nov 23, 2021 11:55:19 GMT -5
Yeah I didn’t think of Forever After All either. I did include Right On Time in my song of the year but only because I didn’t see as much competition as I usually do (I find record of the year more competitive) so I don’t fully expect to see Brandi there and do expect to see less “song of the year”-like songs in there (ie, more poppier or bigger hits than we’d usually get)
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Nov 23, 2021 11:55:55 GMT -5
What?! They could have told us that before 😂😂😂
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 23, 2021 11:56:05 GMT -5
Lol they *just* increased it to 8, like, 2-3 years ago. Now it’s 10 per Big 4 category? Lordy.
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Post by Choco on Nov 23, 2021 11:56:22 GMT -5
On one hand, cool to have 10 nominees. On the other if everyone gets in then zzz...
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