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Post by strongerq on Apr 23, 2021 6:01:43 GMT -5
thegreatdivine I thought Sunflower counts towards Hollywood's Bleeding for RIAA? I remember all of it units got swapped from the Spiderman Soundtrack to Hollywood's Bleeding when the album was released. I remember reading here and on HITS that all of its SPS was transferred to Post's album and it had a HUGE drop on the YTD chart. That is MRC/Nielsen (BB), RIAA has a few different rules (double albums counting as two sales as an example). The rule before was that artists could freely take songs from varius artist compilations (didn't matter if the compilation album had been certified or not using the certain song's units, example Spider-man is last certified on 1 May 2019, Post can use every stream & sale from 2 May 2019 onward and the Compilation album is restricted from using units from that song ever again.) *random dates btw*
This isn't for weekly Hot 100 discussion, but since the topic is RIAA.
RIAA updated the rules for album certifications recently. The new rules are: This was a common trick to get higher certifications. Labels would release Target exclusives that had additional 2/3 singles, but these versions don't exist on streaming services.
But before it was enought to have it on one platform/retailer and everything counted. Example: Billie Eilish had a Target exclusive for WWAFAWDWG which has 'everything i wanted', 'when i was older', 'bitchеs broken hearts'.
This ѕhit used to be first come, first served. Since songs with 2 lead artists could only count for 1 album.
Now it is straightforward, songs like Senorita count for both artists albums.
Sunflower case. I explained how it used to be above. Now it is first come, first served.
SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE was certified first, so Sunflower is claimed. Hollywood's Bleeding recieved the very first certification yesterday, the OST has been certified and recertified twice.
They explained what is and what isn't UGC. This is interesting but i don't this there is a way for us to see what YT considers UGC/official video. But there are a lot of videos not on the artist channels that have 1B/are nearing 1B views, it would be cool if they counted.
And there is half a page for Merch bundles, Ticket Bundles, and product packaging. This was a sentence or two before. Everything is from RIAA website album document: link
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Post by strongerq on Apr 23, 2021 6:13:13 GMT -5
Really?! Wow. I thought all artists credited as lead got credit, just not those who are featured. Apparently not. If you go to this link and click on "More Details" for Post Malone, you won't see Sunflower listed in the list of certified songs which count for him. Same with Ariana Grande. Bang Bang is meant to be her highest-certified song at 8x Platinum but despite her being a co-lead artist on the song, it isn't listed in her list. Same thing with Justin Bieber. He's credited as a co-lead artist on I Don't Care with Ed Sheeran. It's certified 2x Platinum but if you check his list, it doesn't count for him as well. Yup here is the entry, you can see it on the link you posted or Digital Singles under Top Tallies.
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Post by Gary on Apr 23, 2021 7:24:20 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/shock-g-dies-digital-underground-s-humpty-dance-rapper-who-also-produced-early-2pac-records-was-57/ar-BB1fX2bv?ocid=msedgntpShock G Dies: Digital Underground’s ‘Humpty Dance’ Rapper Who Also Produced Early 2Pac Records Was 57a man wearing a hat and sunglasses talking on a cell phone© Mega Agency Click here to read the full article. Shock G, the Bay Area rapper-producer who fueled Digital Underground’s 1990 hit “The Humpty Dance” via his alter ego Humpty Hump and co-produced Tupac Shakur’s debut album, died today in Tampa, FL. He was 57. The news was confirmed by Chopmaster J (aka James Dight), who co-founded the Underground with Shock G (born Gregory Jacobs) in 1987. “34 years ago almost to the day we had a wild idea we can be a hip hop band and take on the world through it all the dream became a reality and the reality became a nightmare for some,” Chopmaster J wrote on Instagram. “And now he’s awaken from the fame long live shock G Aka Humpty Hump and Rest In Peace my Brotha Greg Jacobs!!!”
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 23, 2021 8:21:47 GMT -5
I think with the way both Ari and Abel are promoting this remix, in a way that neither of them have done before, i think its pretty evident that SYT will head to #1. They're gunning for that #1. I expect some heavy shenanigans like discounts and maybe some signed singles or something through next week. I’d totally buy a vinyl single if it had the original on one side and the remix on the other!
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Post by fridayteenage on Apr 23, 2021 8:31:30 GMT -5
it all went downhill after the career high of this is what you came for! downhill is a bit of an over exaggeration, especially for a pop producer. More than a decade into this career and he's still working with big popstars, he's just not on the charts. But he'll still have success in Europe well this is the hot 100 thread. had to look up that song that other person posted. #26 charter; 20s is the highest he's been in after the classic i named.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 23, 2021 8:31:54 GMT -5
Really?! Wow. I thought all artists credited as lead got credit, just not those who are featured. Apparently not. If you go to this link and click on "More Details" for Post Malone, you won't see Sunflower listed in the list of certified songs which count for him. Same with Ariana Grande. Bang Bang is meant to be her highest-certified song at 8x Platinum but despite her being a co-lead artist on the song, it isn't listed in her list. Same thing with Justin Bieber. He's credited as a co-lead artist on I Don't Care with Ed Sheeran. It's certified 2x Platinum but if you check his list, it doesn't count for him as well. It's interesting because Mariah has "One Sweet Day" and "Beautiful" showing for her there, but not "Endless Love" or "When You Believe."
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Post by strongerq on Apr 23, 2021 8:45:29 GMT -5
^ Only solo lead are counted on RIAA. Co-lead have separate entries, while features don't count at all toward the total count. It all depends on the crediting when applying for the certification it seems. Even if some songs are duets they can be certified as solo lead.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 23, 2021 8:46:55 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/04/23
1(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 116.14(+1.99) 2(=) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 106.26(+1.03) 3(=) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 99.47(-0.56) 4(=) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 98.21(-1.58) 5(=) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 91.68(-1.13) 6(+3) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVĒON) 81.72(+3.14) 7(-1) Tate McRae - you broke me first 80.61(-1.17) 8(-1) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 79.35(-1.18) 9(+1) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 78.11(+0.34) 10(-2) Ariana Grande - positions 77.97(-0.64)
14(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 66.67(+0.90) 17(+1) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 60.02(+0.77)
20(+1) Maroon 5 & Megan Thee Stallion - Beautiful Mistakes 55.70(+0.89) 26(+2) Tenille Arts - Somebody Like That 46.45(+1.18) 36(+1) Sam Hunt - Breaking Up Was Easy in the 90's 38.20(+0.70)
38(=) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 37.14(+0.70)
46(+7) Ariana Grande - pov 33.03(+1.47)
48(+4) Mooski - Track Star 32.68(+0.76) 60(+4) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 28.32(+1.41) -(-) Kali Uchis - telepatía 16.23(+0.84)
-(-) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 14.43(+1.06)
-(-) Regard, Troye Sivan & Tate McRae - You 1.55(+1.48) +
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 23, 2021 9:11:12 GMT -5
BL finally re-passes positions on radio, and it looks like it will be ahead of Go Crazy and YBMF by the end of the weekend.
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 23, 2021 9:18:03 GMT -5
That Dr. Luke song overtook Montero on Spotify.
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Post by kalmanta on Apr 23, 2021 9:22:27 GMT -5
That Dr. Luke song overtook Montero on Spotify. 💀💀💀
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Post by thegreatdivine on Apr 23, 2021 9:34:52 GMT -5
^ Only solo lead are counted on RIAA. Co-lead have separate entries, while features don't count at all toward the total count. It all depends on the crediting when applying for the certification it seems. Even if some songs are duets they can be certified as solo lead.
jenglisbe true. I noticed that with Drake, while he shares co-lead credit with Lil Baby on Yes Indeed, RIAA has the song certified as Lil Baby featuring Drake. For Diamonds Dancing off What a Time to Be Alive, Drake shares co-lead credit with Future on the song but it's certified as Drake featuring Future. On Jumpman, Future isn't even credited in the certification. It just says "Drake - Jumpman." But like strongerq said, geberally, artists are only credited on songs where they're solo/lead artist. Co-leads are credited separately and features don't count.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 23, 2021 11:55:37 GMT -5
US Spotify - 04/22/21
1(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,884,792 (-28,693) 2(+1) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,429,462 (+81,536) 3(-1) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 1,428,794 (-18,245) 4(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches 1,258,347 (-6,577) 5(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 1,146,841 (-19,067) 6(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,045,271 (+6,267) 7(=) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 882,812 (-11,014) 8(=) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 833,103 (+2,158) 9(+1) Cardi B - Up 789,177 (+3,855) 10(+1) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 773,563 (+6,730)
Others: 11(+1) Drake - Wants and Needs 762,890 (+23,172) 12(-3) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Solid 755,026 (-31,573) 13(=) Lil Tjay, 6LACK - Calling My Phone 716,179 (-8,201) 14(=) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 686,472 (+1,455) 15(=) Kali Uchis - telepatía 673,592 (-5,394) 16(+1) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 669,321 (+13,891) 17(-1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 663,696 (+4,038) 18(=) Doja Cat - Streets 636,968 (+5,525) 19(=) SZA - Good Days 632,223 (+4,955) 20(=) Saweetie - Best Friend 620,199 (+8,579) 21(=) Drake - What's Next 606,033 (+11,075) 23(=) Lil Tjay - Headshot 572,107 (+1,360) 24(+1) Pooh Shiesty - Back in Blood 544,726 (+5,100) 25(-1) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 538,521 (-15,927) 27(=) Justin Bieber - Hold On 492,277 (-4,137) 28(=) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 485,558 (+5,127) 30(=) Taylor Swift - Mr. Perfectly Fine 461,986 (-9,970) 32(+1) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 436,592 (+888) 33(+1) Lil Tjay - Run It Up 430,593 (+4,334) 35(=) Lil Baby - On Me 428,821 (+2,980) 32(-4) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Diamonds Dancing 412,166 (-26,035) 37(=) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 409,556 (+7,742) 39(=) AURORA - Runaway 391,720 (+8,750) 41(-1) Rod Wave - Richer 379,430 (-2,679) 43(=) Travis Scott, HVME - Goosebumps 368,697 (+1,858) 44(=) SpotemGottem - Beat Box 3 368,219 (+2,168) 46(+1) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 357,436 (+2,349) 49(-4) Beach Bunny - Cloud 9 353,346 (-5,662) 50(-2) Tate McRae - you broke me first 349,796 (+504) 55(+2) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 338,893 (+6,405) 62(=) 42 Dugg - 4 Da Gang 329,538 (+1,490) 63(=) Luke Combs - Forever After All 328,522 (+1,728) 64(-3) Demi Lovato - Met Him Last Night 325,105 (-5,193) 66(+6) Kevin Gates - Big Gangsta 324,585 (+15,964) 68(-3) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 323,242 (-776) 70(-4) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 320,103 (-2,318) 75(-2) Dua Lipa - We're Good 303,204 (-4,616) 79(-3) Rod Wave - Tombstone 293,869 (-2,951) 80(-3) Bad Bunny, ROSALÍA - LA NOCHE DE ANOCHE 293,747 (-2,429) 87(+1) MoneyBagg Yo - Time Today 287,004 (+5,890) 88(-4) Tiësto - The Business 286,163 (+280) 96(-5) Taylor Swift - Love Story (Taylor’s Version) 269,750 (-5,261) 100(-1) Mooski - Track Star 264,826 (-226)
101(+8) Ashnikko Princess Nokia - Slumber Party 264,617 (+11,147) 105(=) Lil Baby - Real As It Gets 258,774 (+1,393) 108(-2) Gabby Barrett - The Good Ones 253,923 (-1,795) 113(=) Rod Wave - Street Runner 249,982 (-4,798) 116(-8) Twenty One Pilots - Shy Away 245,621 (-8,116) 119(-25) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug - Proud of You 244,180 (-27,511) 120(-4) 24kGoldn - Company 243,281 (-130) 128(+14) MARINA - Bubblegum Bitch 238,449 (+12,862) 142(-6) Pop Smoke - Hello 229,509 (+851) 145(-2) Eric Church - Hell Of A View 226,574 (+1,928) 156(-2) Roar - I Can't Handle Change 219,649 (+2,854) 165(+9) Surf Curse - Freaks 216,763 (+7,701) 173(-8) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 213,318 (-510) 188(-10) Regard, Troye Sivan, Tate McRae - You 204,750 (-3,485) 199(-16) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 202,078 (-3,683)
Biggest Gains (50K+): Kiss Me More
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 23, 2021 12:17:54 GMT -5
US Spotify - Week 04/22/21
1(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 14,135,559 2(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 10,838,771 3(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches 9,577,020 4(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 9,460,768 5(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 8,589,981 6(+4) Dua Lipa - Levitating 7,551,790 7(debut) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Solid 7,065,777 8(-1) Masked Wolf - Astronaut in the Ocean 6,549,299 9(+2) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversafy 6,041,483 10(-1) Cardi B - Up 5,824,702
11(+1) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 5,613,111 12(+13) Drake - Wants and Needs 5,277,826 13(-3) Lil Tjay, 6LACK - Calling My Phone 5,250,062 14(=) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 4,925,471 15(-2) Kali Uchis - telepatía 4,905,103 16(+1) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 4,754,003 17(+4) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 4,714,284 18(debut) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 4,664,120 19(-1) Doja Cat - Streets 4,536,301 20(-1) SZA - Good Days 4,493,490 21(+1) Saweetie - Best Friend 4,485,052 23(-7) Drake - What's Next 4,333,665 24(debut) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Diamonds Dancing 4,263,440 25(-2) Lil Tjay - Headshot 4,023,042 28(-22) Taylor Swift - Mr. Perfectly Fine 3,699,483 30(+6) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 3,380,730 33(+14) Lil Tjay - Run It Up 3,105,302 34(+18) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 3,082,271 35(debut) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug - Proud of You 3,076,679 40(+5) Rod Wave - Richer 2,738,116 44(+86) AURORA - Runaway 2,624,288 45(+18) SpotemGottem - Beat Box 3 2,607,011 49(-10) Demi Lovato - Met Him Last Night 2,566,349 50(+14) Beach Bunny - Cloud 9 2,519,564 57(debut) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug - Came and Saw 2,376,553 60(+5) 42 Dugg - 4 Da Gang 1,539,239 2,578,743 2,345,848 61(+35) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 2,344,424 65(+33) Luke Combs - Forever After All 2,330,318 67(+27) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 2,280,758 79(-64) Taylor Swift - Love Story (Taylor’s Version) 2,169,635 92(+29) Kevin Gates - Big Gangsta 1,976,857 96(+20) Mooski - Track Star 1,952,361 98(-54) Twenty One Pilots - Shy Away 1,930,460
118(debut) iann dior - shots in the dark 1,727,891 128(debut) Regard, Troye Sivan, Tate McRae - You 1,683,212 141(debut) Eric Church - Hell Of A View 1,622,447 159(+37) MARINA - Bubblegum Bitch 1,550,274
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Post by forg on Apr 24, 2021 6:44:24 GMT -5
Beautiful Mistakes is rising pretty well on both radio and streaming
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 24, 2021 6:55:58 GMT -5
Beautiful Mistakes is rising pretty well on both radio and streaming Very soon, it will pass the song it samples (8-week #1 Mood) on the Hot 100. It may even happen this charting week.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 24, 2021 7:02:44 GMT -5
Beautiful Mistakes is rising pretty well on both radio and streaming Very soon, it will pass the song it samples (8-week #1 Mood) on the Hot 100. It may even happen this charting week. It doesn't sample Mood. Two songs sounding similar does not immediately mean sample/interpolation
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 24, 2021 7:33:54 GMT -5
^Yeah. Big difference. I can listen to Mood indefinitely, while I wouldn't be caught dead in a room where Beautiful Mistakes is playing.
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Post by Mayman on Apr 24, 2021 7:44:18 GMT -5
Wow @ this Mediabase panel change + audience recalibration. The #1 on pop radio is down to just 53m AI.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 24, 2021 8:48:37 GMT -5
Last time Blinding Lights was below 60M aud was 2/27/2020.
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Post by spiritboy on Apr 24, 2021 8:50:45 GMT -5
Mood is one of the worst songs released this year, can't compare it to superior Beautiful Mistakes.
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Post by Groovy on Apr 24, 2021 8:55:45 GMT -5
Not y’all hyping Maroon 5 for making the same song every year since 2012.
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Post by starlord on Apr 24, 2021 9:33:33 GMT -5
Last time Blinding Lights was below 60M aud was 2/27/2020. Yes, but BL still grew in ranking. RIP Driver's license already @ 73M.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Apr 24, 2021 9:44:49 GMT -5
Mood is one of the worst songs released this year, can't compare it to superior Beautiful Mistakes. Big Pat Boone fan too, I'm guessing?
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Post by spiritboy on Apr 24, 2021 10:51:56 GMT -5
Mood is one of the worst songs released this year, can't compare it to superior Beautiful Mistakes. Big Pat Boone fan too, I'm guessing? Who?
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Post by iHype. on Apr 24, 2021 10:56:58 GMT -5
Maroon 5 - the cockroach of Pop.
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Post by atg on Apr 24, 2021 10:58:17 GMT -5
Not y’all hyping Maroon 5 for making the same song every year since 2012. I know they sold out, but i don’t know how one could think One More Night sounds exactly the same as Girls Like You, or Sugar and Memories. I know it feels like a common joke but if i’m being honest, i never played a single maroon 5 song and said to myself “oh this sounds exactly like their other hits”. I still think their generic, but they have done this long enough to give them their own ‘sound’, even if it isn’t their best at all.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 24, 2021 11:51:06 GMT -5
As Mayman mentioned, quite a recalibration for Mediabse. I'm just showing some that had gotten decent gains during the previous week. Country songs seem to be the least affected since they mostly have only that radio format. Finally, I would expect these numbers to be much closer to those reported for songs in the Chart Beat articles.
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/04/24
1(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 91.17(-24.97) 2(=) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 81.14(-25.12) 3(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 73.53(-24.69) 4(-1) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 72.65(-26.82) 5(=) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 68.04(-23.63) 6(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVĒON) 62.22(-19.50) 7(=) Tate McRae - you broke me first 61.16(-19.45) 8(+1) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 59.56(-18.55) 9(-1) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 57.94(-21.41) 10(=) Ariana Grande - positions 57.25(-20.72)
14(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 49.08(-17.59) 17(=) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 45.92(-14.10)
18(+3) Gabby Barrett - The Good Ones 45.89(-8.55)
19(+4) Jake Owen - Made for You 43.72(-7.23)
24(+2) Tenille Arts - Somebody Like That 39.91(-6.54) 31(+3) Eric Church - Hell of a View 34.40(-5.00)
33(+3) Sam Hunt - Breaking Up Was Easy in the 90's 32.72(-5.48)
45(+9) Luke Combs - Forever After All 26.63(-4.69) 50(-4) Ariana Grande - pov 25.12(-7.91)
56(-8) Mooski - Track Star 24.19(-8.48)
62(+4) Jason Aldean - Blame It on You 22.68(-3.66) 64(-4) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 21.88(-6.43)
68(-6) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 20.79(-6.75)
94(+4) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 14.46(-2.95)
100(+9) Ella Mai - Not Another Love Song 13.00(-1.99)
-(-) Duncan Laurence - Arcade (feat. FLETCHER) 10.45(-2.49)
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Post by jthentic on Apr 24, 2021 12:24:35 GMT -5
Not y’all hyping Maroon 5 for making the same song every year since 2012. Exactly it's the same generic M5 stuff with Megan's watered-down nicki verse.
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Post by spiritboy on Apr 24, 2021 12:43:21 GMT -5
Not y’all hyping Maroon 5 for making the same song every year since 2012. I know they sold out, but i don’t know how one could think One More Night sounds exactly the same as Girls Like You, or Sugar and Memories. I know it feels like a common joke but if i’m being honest, i never played a single maroon 5 song and said to myself “oh this sounds exactly like their other hits”. I still think their generic, but they have done this long enough to give them their own ‘sound’, even if it isn’t their best at all. This tbh. For me all Drake songs (and most rap songs) sound the same. For me it's the worst genre along with metal and country yet i don't complain about it over and over.
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