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Post by Groovy on Apr 25, 2021 8:29:47 GMT -5
Groovy "Wait" did get a remix with A Boogie Wit da Hoodie, but the music video features the solo version, and that's the one which got credited by Billboard throughout the song's run (unlike "Don't Wanna Know"), so it doesn't count. I was hesitating to put "Beautiful Mistakes" on the list, since I imagine it's bound to become a top 10 hit eventually, but if you want to expand the list to top 25 hits, I'll give you "This Summer" (and Lord knows that one is anything but generic and safe in structure/sound). 5 vs. 10 So still 1/3 of their hits, I would still consider a fair chunk but that’s just me.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Apr 25, 2021 8:38:50 GMT -5
So still 1/3 of their hits, I would still consider a fair chunk but that’s just me. Still doesn't support your argument that all their post-"Overexposed" songs sound the same, and have the same rap feature structure (which, as many users pointed out, is just the standard structure for many pop songs). And even then, "Cold", "Girls Like You", and "Beautiful Mistakes" all sound very distinct from each other production-wise. It's just a poor critique of an artist you don't like.
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Post by Groovy on Apr 25, 2021 8:48:40 GMT -5
So still 1/3 of their hits, I would still consider a fair chunk but that’s just me. Still doesn't support your argument that all their post-"Overexposed" songs sound the same, and have the same rap feature structure (which, as many users pointed out, is just the standard structure for many pop songs). And even then, "Cold", "Girls Like You", and "Beautiful Mistakes" all sound very distinct from each other production-wise. It's just a poor critique of an artist you don't like. But I never said they sounded the same, I said their songs with rappers are the same with the same structures but I never said they all said the sound the same production wise.
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Post by spiritboy on Apr 25, 2021 8:52:36 GMT -5
Looks like Maroon 5 is getting another hit so if people wanna be pressed about it, let them be.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 25, 2021 9:45:02 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/04/25
1(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 92.37(+1.20) 2(=) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 81.86(+0.71) 3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 73.10(-0.43) 4(=) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 71.72(-0.93) 5(=) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 66.58(-1.46) 5 102.67 119 92 419 74 6(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVĒON) 64.20(+1.98) 7(=) Tate McRae - you broke me first 60.07(-1.09) 8(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 59.14(-0.42) 9(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 57.10(-0.84) 10(=) Ariana Grande - positions 56.78(-0.47)
15(+1) Saweetie - Best Friend (feat. Doja Cat) 46.77(+0.73)
16(+1) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 46.63(+0.71)
24(=) Tenille Arts - Somebody Like That 40.96(+1.05)
36(+1) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 29.28(+0.70)
46(+4) Ariana Grande - pov 26.25(+1.14) 60(+4) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 23.14(+1.26) + 100(+7) Kali Uchis - telepatía 13.11(+0.90)
-(-) Thomas Rhett - Country Again 10.50(+1.09)
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 25, 2021 9:45:56 GMT -5
well at least DL isn't losing -1 every day again. Hope it still sticks around in the Top 10
also WOO, TELEPATIA IN THE TOP 100
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 25, 2021 10:48:33 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
April 24, 1961 (For the week ending April 29)
01 02 Runaway - Del Shannon (1st of 4 weeks at #1) 02 01 Blue Moon - The Marcels 03 03 Mother-In-Law - Ernie K-Doe 04 05 But I Do - Clarence "Frogman" Henry 05 04 On The Rebound - Floyd Cramer 06 09 One Hundred Pounds Of Clay - Gene McDaniels 07 18 I've Told Every Little Star - Linda Scott 08 16 You Can Depend On Me - Brenda Lee 09 11 Take Good Care Of Her - Adam Wade 10 14 One Mint Julip - Ray Charles
21 56 Breakin' In a Brand New Broken Heart - Connie Francis
April 30, 1966
01 06 Good Lovin' - The Young Rascals (1st and only week at #1) 02 01 (You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers 03 10 Monday, Monday - The Mamas & The Papas 04 08 Sloop John B - The Beach Boys 05 03 Secret Agent Man - Johnny Rivers 06 07 Kicks - Paul Revere & The Raiders 07 05 Time Won't Let Me - The Outsiders 08 02 Bang Bang - Cher 09 04 Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful 10 15 Leaning On The Lamp Post - Herman's Hermits
14 38 Rainy Day Women Nos. 12 & 35 - Bob Dylan 21 49 How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra 23 52 A Groovy Kind Of Love - The Mindbenders
May 1, 1971
01 01 Joy To The World - Three Dog Night (3rd of 6 weeks at #1) 02 03 Put Your Hand In The Hand - Ocean 03 04 Never Can Say Goodbye - The Jackson 5 04 02 What's Going On - Marvin Gaye 05 06 I Am... I Said - Neil Diamond 06 08 If - Bread 07 10 Stay Awhile - The Bells 08 05 Another Day - Paul McCartney 09 07 Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me) - The Temptations 10 17 Chick-A-Boom - Daddy Dewdrop
22 46 Sweet And Innocent - Donny Osmond
May 1, 1976
01 02 Let Your Love Flow - The Bellamy Brothers (1st and only week at #1) 02 03 Right Back Where We Started From - Maxine Nightingale 03 04 Boogie Fever - The Sylvers 04 07 Welcome Back - John Sebastian 05 05 Sweet Love - The Commodores 06 01 Disco Lady - Johnnie Taylor 07 08 Show Me The Way - Peter Frampton 08 10 Fooled Around And Fell In Love - Elvin Bishop 09 09 Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen 10 29 Love Hangover - Diana Ross
May 2, 1981
01 02 Morning Train (Nine To Five) - Sheena Easton (1st of 2 weeks at #1) 02 04 Just The Two Of Us - Grover Washington Jr. w/Bill Withers 03 03 Being With You - Smokey Robinson 04 05 Angel Of The Morning - Juice Newton 05 01 Kiss On My List - Daryl Hall & John Oates 06 06 Rapture - Blondie 07 18 Bette Davis Eyes - Kim Carnes 08 07 While You See a Chance - Steve Winwood 09 16 Living Inside Myself - Gino Vannelli 10 11 I Can't Stand It - Eric Clapton
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 25, 2021 11:06:20 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
May 3, 1986
01 02 Addicted To Love - Robert Palmer (1st and only week at #1) 02 03 West End Girls - The Pet Shop Boys 03 01 Kiss - Prince & The Revolution 04 05 Why Can't This Be Love - Van Halen 05 06 Harlem Shuffle - The Rolling Stones 06 08 What Have You Done For Me Lately - Janet Jackson 07 12 Greatest Love Of All - Whitney Houston 08 09 Your Love - The Outfield 09 10 Take Me Home - Phil Collins 10 04 Manic Monday - The Bangles
May 4, 1991
01 01 Baby Baby - Amy Grant (2nd and final week at #1) 02 02 Joyride - Roxette 03 04 I Like The Way (The Kissing Game) - Hi-Five 04 05 Here We Go (Let's Rock & Roll) - C+C Music Factory 05 08 Touch Me (All Night Long) - Cathy Dennis 06 09 I Touch Myself - The Divinyls 07 07 Cry For Help - Rick Astley 08 12 Rhythm Of My Heart - Rod Stewart 09 03 You're In Love - Wilson Phillips 10 15 I Don't Wanna Cry - Mariah Carey
May 4, 1996
01 02 Always Be My Baby - Mariah Carey (1st of 2 weeks at #1) 02 01 Because You Loved Me - Celine Dion 03 03 Nobody Knows - The Tony Rich Project 04 04 Ironic - Alanis Morissette 05 05 1-2-3-4 (Sumpin' New) - Coolio 06 07 You're The One - SWV 07 06 Down Low (Nobody Has To Know) - R. Kelly feat. Ronald Isley 08 09 Count On Me - Whitney Houston & CeCe Winans 09 08 Woo-Hah!! Got You All In Check / Everything Remains Raw - Busta Rhymes 10 11 Follow You Down / 'Til I Hear It From You - Gin Blossoms
April 28, 2001
01 01 All For You - Janet Jackson (3rd of 7 weeks at #1) 02 02 Survivor - Destiny's Child 03 04 Thank You - Dido 04 05 Missing You - Case 05 03 Angel - Shaggy feat. Rayvon 06 10 Hanging By a Moment - Lifehouse 07 06 Butterfly - Crazy Town 08 12 Ride Wit Me - Nelly feat. City Spud 09 07 Stutter - Joe feat. Mystikal 10 11 Stranger In My House - Tamia
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 25, 2021 11:24:57 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
April 29, 2006
01 01 Bad Day - Daniel Powter (4th of 5 weeks at #1) 02 02 Temperature - Sean Paul 03 03 What You Know - T.I. 04 NE Control Myself - LL Cool J feat. Jennifer Lopez 05 06 Unwritten - Natasha Bedingfield 06 08 What Hurts The Most - Rascal Flatts 07 04 You're Beautiful - James Blunt 08 05 Be Without You - Mary J. Blige 09 24 Dani California - The Red Hot Chili Peppers 10 07 Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It - Dem Franchize Boyz feat. Lil Peanut & Charlay
17 NE Let U Go - Ashley Parker Angel
April 30, 2011
01 02 S&M - Rihanna feat. Britney Spears (1st and only week at #1) 02 01 E.T. - Katy Perry feat. Kanye West 03 03 Just Can't Get Enough - The Black Eyed Peas 04 06 Down On Me - Jeremih feat. 50 Cent 05 04 F**k You (Forget You) - CeeLo Green 06 10 Rolling In The Deep - Adele 07 07 Look At Me Now - Chris Brown feat. Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes 08 09 On The Floor - Jennifer Lopez feat. Pitbull 09 08 Till The World Ends - Britney Spears 10 NE Judas - Lady Gaga
April 30, 2016
01 01 Work - Rihanna feat. Drake (9th and final week at #1) 02 05 Panda - Desiigner 03 02 7 Years - Lukas Graham 04 03 No - Meghan Trainor 05 04 PILLOWTALK - Zayn 06 08 I Took a Pill In Ibiza - Mike Posner 07 09 Work From Home - Fifth Harmony feat. Ty Dolla $ign 08 06 Love Yourself - Justin Bieber 09 12 Cake By The Ocean - DNCE 10 10 Me, Myself & I - G-Eazy & Bebe Rexha
May 2, 2020
01 01 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd (4th and final week at #1) 02 02 Toosie Slide - Drake 03 03 The Box - Roddy Ricch 04 04 Don't Start Now - Dua Lipa 05 05 Say So - Doja Cat 06 07 Circles - Post Malone 07 06 Adore You - Harry Styles 08 09 Intentions - Justin Bieber feat. Quavo 09 NE ROCKSTAR - DaBaby feat. Roddy Ricch 10 08 Life Is Good - Future feat. Drake
17 NE Jump - DaBaby feat. NBA YoungBoy
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 25, 2021 11:54:03 GMT -5
Still doesn't support your argument that all their post-"Overexposed" songs sound the same, and have the same rap feature structure (which, as many users pointed out, is just the standard structure for many pop songs). And even then, "Cold", "Girls Like You", and "Beautiful Mistakes" all sound very distinct from each other production-wise. It's just a poor critique of an artist you don't like. But I never said they sounded the same, I said their songs with rappers are the same with the same structures but I never said they all said the sound the same production wise. That’s literally... nearly every song with a featured rapper? I mean you’re not wrong but that’s not what I’m arguing. I still don’t get it. They’re using a similar structure that has been used in pop f/rapper for over 20 years now.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 25, 2021 12:42:10 GMT -5
May 2, 202001 01 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd (4th and final week at #1) Hard to believe that Blinding Lights never made it back to #1 after this. Say what you want about radio, but it was the only metric that truly showed how dominant the song was in 2020. Without radio, I'm not so sure BL would have even went to #1 on the Hot 100.
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Post by iHype. on Apr 25, 2021 12:56:39 GMT -5
May 2, 202001 01 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd (4th and final week at #1) Hard to believe that Blinding Lights never made it back to #1 after this. Say what you want about radio, but it was the only metric that truly showed how dominant the song was in 2020. Without radio, I'm not so sure BL would have even went to #1 on the Hot 100. Considering it peaked #1 on Streaming and #1 on Sales it would’ve reached #1 regardless of radio being included.
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Post by strongerq on Apr 25, 2021 13:31:17 GMT -5
^ Yup, it spent 2 weeks at #1 on RS chart (album week 1 & 2).
To the user above if you want to see how charts would have looked like without radio just go to the Rolling Stone chart.
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Post by chartfreak on Apr 25, 2021 13:45:29 GMT -5
May 2, 202001 01 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd (4th and final week at #1) Hard to believe that Blinding Lights never made it back to #1 after this. Say what you want about radio, but it was the only metric that truly showed how dominant the song was in 2020. Without radio, I'm not so sure BL would have even went to #1 on the Hot 100. I prefer #1's to have some radio support.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 25, 2021 15:41:33 GMT -5
May 4, 199101 01 Baby Baby - Amy Grant (2nd and final week at #1)02 02 Joyride - Roxette 03 04 I Like The Way (The Kissing Game) - Hi-Five 04 05 Here We Go (Let's Rock & Roll) - C+C Music Factory 05 08 Touch Me (All Night Long) - Cathy Dennis 06 09 I Touch Myself - The Divinyls 07 07 Cry For Help - Rick Astley 08 12 Rhythm Of My Heart - Rod Stewart 09 03 You're In Love - Wilson Phillips 10 15 I Don't Wanna Cry - Mariah Carey May 4, 199601 02 Always Be My Baby - Mariah Carey (1st of 2 weeks at #1)02 01 Because You Loved Me - Celine Dion 03 03 Nobody Knows - The Tony Rich Project 04 04 Ironic - Alanis Morissette 05 05 1-2-3-4 (Sumpin' New) - Coolio 06 07 You're The One - SWV 07 06 Down Low (Nobody Has To Know) - R. Kelly feat. Ronald Isley 08 09 Count On Me - Whitney Houston & CeCe Winans 09 08 Woo-Hah!! Got You All In Check / Everything Remains Raw - Busta Rhymes 10 11 Follow You Down / 'Til I Hear It From You - Gin Blossoms A lot of these are totally forgettable. I only remember Baby Baby and Rhythm of my Heart from '91 and Always Be My Baby, Because You Loved Me, and Ironic from '96.
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Post by iamsorare on Apr 25, 2021 16:44:19 GMT -5
And that is the most bizarre thing. Practically anyone else (from Justin Timberlake to Beyoncé, from Gwen Stefani to Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus) can't get even 20% of the CHR airplay M5 still get. There must be more than just "good songs". remember when maroon 5 copied katy's 'birthday' with their song 'sugar' (the concept of the music videos and the sound of the songs were the same) ..but katy flopped and maroon 5 scored a smash hit..poor Katy but people had taste
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Post by Groovy on Apr 25, 2021 17:54:54 GMT -5
And that is the most bizarre thing. Practically anyone else (from Justin Timberlake to Beyoncé, from Gwen Stefani to Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus) can't get even 20% of the CHR airplay M5 still get. There must be more than just "good songs". remember when maroon 5 copied katy's 'birthday' with their song 'sugar' (the concept of the music videos and the sound of the songs were the same) ..but katy flopped and maroon 5 scored a smash hit..poor Katy but people had taste Birthday flopped?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 25, 2021 17:57:09 GMT -5
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 25, 2021 19:23:58 GMT -5
The race for #1 is well within the margin of error. If Rapstar's streams are overestimated and the actual number ends up being less than 39M, then LTDO will pull this off.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Apr 25, 2021 19:59:48 GMT -5
AURORA DEBUT, U CAN DO IT
Who knows if recurrent rules will apply, Billboard let “Money Trees” chart on Bubbling Under
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Post by atg on Apr 25, 2021 20:00:13 GMT -5
May 2, 202001 01 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd (4th and final week at #1) Hard to believe that Blinding Lights never made it back to #1 after this. Say what you want about radio, but it was the only metric that truly showed how dominant the song was in 2020. Without radio, I'm not so sure BL would have even went to #1 on the Hot 100. If people are so tired of BL on Billboard, imagine how terrifying it would be for them on the RS charts, as they have no recurrent rules. I’m thinking it’ll finally fall off by 2028-2030.
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Post by ZERO on Apr 26, 2021 6:38:39 GMT -5
AURORA DEBUT, U CAN DO IT Who knows if recurrent rules will apply, Billboard let “Money Trees” chart on Bubbling Under I have no idea how to gauge Billboard's recurrency rules anymore. As you said, they let "Money Trees" on Bubbling Under, but also "Magic in the Hamptons" and "Truth Hurts"... but then: - they prevented "Martin & Gina" from re-entering despite it not being in recurrent status - "Big Gangsta" was seemingly not accepted into Bubbling Under but somehow was let onto the bottom 20 on the Hot 100 just last week (maybe because of the single re-release???) - and now, no one knows if "Runaway" will be let on or not. It has had new versions/remixes in 2021 but the song itself was not re-released in any way.
I am convinced just make their decisions through a coin toss at this point.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 26, 2021 8:41:59 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/04/26
1(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 93.22(+0.85) 2(=) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 82.27(+0.41) 3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 72.36(-0.74) 4(=) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 70.97(-0.75) 5(+1) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVĒON) 65.96(+1.76) 6(-1) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 65.60(-0.98) 7(=) Tate McRae - you broke me first 59.38(-0.69) 8(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 58.73(-0.41) 9(+1) Ariana Grande - positions 56.66(-0.13) 10(-1) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 56.66(-0.44)
15(+1) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 47.49(+0.87)
37(+1) Rascal Flatts - How They Remember You 29.22(+0.96)
42(+4) Ariana Grande - pov 27.46 +1.21 52(+8) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 24.77(+1.64)
67(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 21.84(+0.78)
96(+4) Kali Uchis - telepatía 13.92(+0.81)
100(+8) Imagine Dragons - Follow You 13.24(+0.95) + -(-) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 12.88(+1.13)
-(-) Nicky Jam & Romeo Santos - Fan De Tus Fotos 11.74(+0.98)
-(-) Duncan Laurence - Arcade (feat. FLETCHER) 11.53(+0.75) -(-) KAROL G & Mariah Angeliq - EL MAKINÓN 2.95(+1.18) + -(-) Farina & Arcangel - La Boca 2.16(+1.10) +
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 26, 2021 9:07:32 GMT -5
Conspiracy theory time: they did a recalibration so that it would be easier for Peaches to go number on radio
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 26, 2021 9:20:05 GMT -5
May 4, 199101 01 Baby Baby - Amy Grant (2nd and final week at #1)02 02 Joyride - Roxette 03 04 I Like The Way (The Kissing Game) - Hi-Five 04 05 Here We Go (Let's Rock & Roll) - C+C Music Factory 05 08 Touch Me (All Night Long) - Cathy Dennis 06 09 I Touch Myself - The Divinyls 07 07 Cry For Help - Rick Astley 08 12 Rhythm Of My Heart - Rod Stewart 09 03 You're In Love - Wilson Phillips 10 15 I Don't Wanna Cry - Mariah Carey May 4, 199601 02 Always Be My Baby - Mariah Carey (1st of 2 weeks at #1)02 01 Because You Loved Me - Celine Dion 03 03 Nobody Knows - The Tony Rich Project 04 04 Ironic - Alanis Morissette 05 05 1-2-3-4 (Sumpin' New) - Coolio 06 07 You're The One - SWV 07 06 Down Low (Nobody Has To Know) - R. Kelly feat. Ronald Isley 08 09 Count On Me - Whitney Houston & CeCe Winans 09 08 Woo-Hah!! Got You All In Check / Everything Remains Raw - Busta Rhymes 10 11 Follow You Down / 'Til I Hear It From You - Gin Blossoms A lot of these are totally forgettable. I only remember Baby Baby and Rhythm of my Heart from '91 and Always Be My Baby, Because You Loved Me, and Ironic from '96. Well, I still remember and listen to "Joyride," "I Like the Way," and "I Don't Wanna Cry" from 1991, and the entire top 5 from 1996. I remember the others as well, just don't listen to them.
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Post by musicbuff26 on Apr 26, 2021 10:46:37 GMT -5
“Levitating” having the biggest increase in the top 10 this far into its run is truly incredible, not to mention it getting a new peak after already “peaking” 🤗
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 12:15:10 GMT -5
so drake might’ve finally got that #11 peak?
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