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Post by tanooki on May 13, 2021 17:54:47 GMT -5
cause all the people used to hearing synthesized pop music get scared when they hear music with guitars and other actual instruments in it thats why the guy from sleeping with sirens is #2 on the bubbling under this week
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Post by PREDS PRIDE on May 13, 2021 18:14:36 GMT -5
cause all the people used to hearing synthesized pop music get scared when they hear music with guitars and other actual instruments in it thats why the guy from sleeping with sirens is #2 on the bubbling under this week YOOOO I DIDNT KNOW THAT THATS AMAZING I LOVE THAT SONG
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Post by bigd79 on May 13, 2021 19:46:38 GMT -5
Kind of ironic if millenials see rock as lame when in fact its most of the rap and pop music being released these days that is rediculously lame. My favorite time in top 40 radio was probably the mid to late 90s...because it felt like you had a mix of so many genres plus they still would play some 80s music, or at least the station i primarily listened to back in those days did. Now alot of those songs i heard on that station i am hearing on my classic hits station. Yep im old lol
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 14, 2021 0:37:53 GMT -5
cause all the people used to hearing synthesized pop music get scared when they hear music with guitars and other actual instruments in it I just fucking listed off a bunch of rock/alt acts that have built an audience with the younger generation. Gtfo out of here with this bs "synthesized music take", as if everything pre-2000 was purely "real instruments"
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 14, 2021 9:11:37 GMT -5
cause all the people used to hearing synthesized pop music get scared when they hear music with guitars and other actual instruments in it I just f**king listed off a bunch of rock/alt acts that have built an audience with the younger generation. Gtfo out of here with this bs "synthesized music take", as if everything pre-2000 was purely "real instruments" Right? As soon as someone mentions “real instruments” or “writes their own songs” or “real music” my eyes glaze over and I tune out.
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Post by Groovy on May 14, 2021 11:03:13 GMT -5
Since we're throwing out rock songs, I highly recommend you guys give this a listen.
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Post by mkarns on May 14, 2021 12:17:43 GMT -5
cause all the people used to hearing synthesized pop music get scared when they hear music with guitars and other actual instruments in it I just f**king listed off a bunch of rock/alt acts that have built an audience with the younger generation. Gtfo out of here with this bs "synthesized music take", as if everything pre-2000 was purely "real instruments" People were complaining in the 1970s and 1980s that synthesizers and drum machines were not "real instruments" and music made with computers was somehow not "real music". And then in the 1990s they attacked the use of sampling, mostly in hip-hop (though critics did have a point when the authors/composers of the sampled songs weren't given their due credit and royalties.)
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 12:40:27 GMT -5
I don't think the issue is that millennials disliked rock (as in the general sound). Millennials for the most part love hooks, and we love knowing that our favorite artists are actually trying to be as successful as possible. I think some of Gen Z finds millennials try-hard bc of this, but we were always a try-hard generation, we weren't ashamed of it, and we expected our faves to try hard in some way if they wanted our attention. Hell it could be our generational tag line - "believe it or not, we are actually trying over here; try with us" lol. Conventional hard rock isn't so hook-driven and there is a pervasive attitude amongst rock fans/musicians that openly trying to be commercially appealing is something to be looked down on. You're supposed to sell just because you're naturally cool enough to sell. But there is only so long you can play the too cool for school card before it catches up and most of the kids in school stop checking for you.
Hard rock could have been combined with the hook/conspicuous catering to the mainstream and thrived IMO, but almost everyone held on to the mentality that if you make an overt attempt to appeal to the mainstream, and especially if you attracted too many women and gays as fans, then you are by default not really rock. Hence why every pop-rock act of the 2000s was found solely under 'pop' when it was time to classify them for award show or chart purposes, and probably why Nickelback and its ilk were often not taken seriously by many - the biggest corporate rock hits always crossed over to HAC and/or CHR. Pop-rock is where the potential for 'hard' rock to find new life really lay, but rock fan snobbery turned that into a lost chance. Somewhat ironically, I don't think that attitude existed much if at all in the 80s when hair metal was big.
The punk trend that is creeping up now seems to be influenced by the 2000s emo-rock (and pop-rock, to a degree) that a lot of gen-z'ers remember hearing as kids - and that's the rock that millennials were fucking with and made successful. But those are also the bands that didn't act like they were too cool for a glossy music video and an occasional stop at MTV's studios.
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Post by Ling-Ling on May 17, 2021 15:48:27 GMT -5
And to add to cynthia's point, you can look to the post-punk revival in the 2000's as well. It was was a fairly short musical wave (I mean, most are), but it was primarily driven by millennials. Some pretty cool bands came and had major success (granted, barely any of them lasted). But I think it shows that most of us are very open to rock music with a sense of style and some hooks.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 20, 2021 0:50:20 GMT -5
macattack , PREDS PRIDE , mrmike855 more rock/rock-adjacent acts putting out music right now that y'all could support. And if you a heavier bands to support, ERRA put out a decent metalcore album this year
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 10:02:18 GMT -5
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Post by weirdo on May 20, 2021 12:25:32 GMT -5
Wow, it has been a long time since I have posted here but I am back everyone.
It's very simple really. Nickelback's music is very generic and simple. This means they don't have many "hardcore" fans because they don't really offer anything special. Because of this, no one becomes offended if you say you hate Nickelback, so it became a really easy target for people to trash on. Once this started, it simply became a meme and it was "hip" to dislike Nickelback.
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Post by garrettlen on May 22, 2021 19:03:48 GMT -5
I just f**king listed off a bunch of rock/alt acts that have built an audience with the younger generation. Gtfo out of here with this bs "synthesized music take", as if everything pre-2000 was purely "real instruments" People were complaining in the 1970s and 1980s that synthesizers and drum machines were not "real instruments" and music made with computers was somehow not "real music". The earliest synthesizers were used as far back as the late 1960's. The Beatles used a Moog synthesizer on their last studio album Abbey Road in 1969. Nothing new about them.
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Post by crazyb on May 23, 2021 0:09:33 GMT -5
How You Remind Me will most likely remind my favorite song of all time, idc.
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Post by jred on May 23, 2021 23:04:50 GMT -5
They were a not-very-good band that got a lot of attention for a long period of time.
I certainly don’t think they are one of the worst bands ever like some have made it seem before (though that sentiment seems to have died down in recent years), but when bands like Foo Fighters, Audioslave, Muse, Queens of the Stone Age, etc. were getting ignored at mainstream radio while Nickelback were racking up top 10s, they became a pretty easy target.
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Post by disman00911 on May 25, 2021 14:02:21 GMT -5
Good all-around discussion about why Nickelback gets so much hate. I agree with most of the points taken except for that one earlier comment blabbering about politics (what does Trump or Kamala/Joe have to do with this subject??????? Seriously?!). I remember hearing "How You Remind Me" on the radio many years ago when the song came out and liking it. I do like it every now and then but not often. I later hear "Never Again", which partially debunks the whole "All Nickelback songs sound the same" claim as that track is more uptempo. Some of their songs DO sound alike but not all of them. After learning about the hatedom this band gets, I did feel embarrassed liking those two tracks for a time as it was trendy to hate this band, Creed, Insane Clown Posse and other "most hated" bands. A few years ago, Nickelback was the halftime act at an NFL Thanksgiving game and many Detroit Lions fans were angry and petitioned to have them removed (didn't happen though). Regardless, I never truly hated Nickelback nor am I a die-hard fan but even the worst of Nickelback is 100x better than the likes of Cardi B, Justin Bieber (yes I'm was guilty of jumping on the hatewagon when "Baby" first appeared), Miley Cyrus and much of the modern-day pop music and mumble rap. Can't stomach any of that garbage and I'm not THAT old. Perhaps that I'm wearing my nostalgic glasses on too tightly and I'll probably ruffle some feathers with some of my statements but it's my opinion. I don't know why I found this video funny but I did. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbO1Dl7XMuo
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 26, 2021 9:59:51 GMT -5
Millennials don't like rock, any form of it.
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Post by macattack on May 26, 2021 13:33:37 GMT -5
Millennials don't like rock, any form of it. Olivia is a Zoomer and Zoomers drove this one lol
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 28, 2021 0:25:06 GMT -5
Olivia is a Zoomer and Zoomers drove this one lol .........................................
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Post by tekkenguy on May 30, 2021 15:48:14 GMT -5
Olivia is a Zoomer and Zoomers drove this one lol And she’s not really a rock artist.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 30, 2021 22:22:45 GMT -5
Olivia is a Zoomer and Zoomers drove this one lol And she’s not really a rock artist. That bit doesn't matter. Mac said Millenials don't like rock music, and then Zoomers AND MILLENIALS (don't try and pretend it's only Zoomers listening to Olivia) ended up making a rock song debut at number one
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Post by Au$tin on May 31, 2021 1:55:56 GMT -5
No, people only listen to music made by artists of their generation. Duh. That's why absolutely 0 people listen to Beethoven.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 6, 2021 10:01:25 GMT -5
Another reason: maybe if they didn't make stuff like this, people would like them more
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Post by Naos on Jul 6, 2021 10:43:16 GMT -5
And she’s not really a rock artist. That bit doesn't matter. Mac said Millenials don't like rock music, and then Zoomers AND MILLENIALS (don't try and pretend it's only Zoomers listening to Olivia) ended up making a rock song debut at number one Pople who often use generational descriptors fail to note there is often overlap, particularly between the later years of one "generation" and the early years of the other. Also, if someone born in the beginning of a specified generation period had an older sibling, odds are they'd share more similarities with the previous as well. Generational distinctions are, largely, arbitrary.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jul 6, 2021 17:07:30 GMT -5
Another reason: maybe if they didn't make stuff like this, people would like them more I actually liked this. I LIKE A NICKELBACK SONG. OMG. *runs out of the room like a chicken on fire*
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Post by Dielawn on Aug 13, 2021 19:12:34 GMT -5
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Their trend of songs with cringe-worthy and overwhelmingly insincere lyrics started with "If Everyone Cared" and got progressively worse with their subsequent releases.. to the point of their song "Never Gonna Be Alone" which was just unlistenable
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 20:46:56 GMT -5
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 19, 2021 12:30:02 GMT -5
Actually that explains everything perfectly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 13:17:30 GMT -5
Actually that explains everything perfectly What, was the US Army blasting How You Remind Me when they were invading Iraq?
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 19, 2021 13:52:43 GMT -5
Actually that explains everything perfectly What, was the US Army blasting How You Remind Me when they were invading Iraq? Yes. I was there
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