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Post by Groovy on May 8, 2021 13:12:31 GMT -5
This is definitely a good song for them to get another hit since sounding more retro these days.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 8, 2021 13:34:51 GMT -5
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Post by iHype. on May 8, 2021 13:36:55 GMT -5
So Cole did over 5m+ on Apple Music US.
I really wanna know the biggest streams in a day on Apple Music. I'm 85% sure God's Plan has it with 10m+.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 8, 2021 13:40:28 GMT -5
30-35M streams should be enough for a top 10 debut. If I had to guess, I'd say he'll end up scoring 3/4 more top 10 debuts following the release of the album.
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Post by fhas on May 8, 2021 14:05:19 GMT -5
30-35M streams should be enough for a top 10 debut. If I had to guess, I'd say he'll end up scoring 3/4 more top 10 debuts following the release of the album. 35M audio streams (this is not including YouTube/Apple/Tidal video streams) with 90% of those streams being paid + 5M video streams + 5K sales probably would be enough for #1. but I think this song is going to be frontloaded, so a top 5/10 debut would be great.
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Post by Groovy on May 8, 2021 14:10:23 GMT -5
Levitating really killed this song's momentum.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 8, 2021 14:36:53 GMT -5
I don't know, maybe it's time to move on from Levitating, and let We're Good have its time to shine.
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Post by strongerq on May 8, 2021 14:38:47 GMT -5
So Cole did over 5m+ on Apple Music US. I really wanna know the biggest streams in a day on Apple Music. I'm 85% sure God's Plan has it with 10m+. I don't think 10M is possible for God's Plan.
What has been announced: God's Plan broke the first day record on AM Global. - 14M God's Plan broke the first week record on AM Global. - 60M God's Plan broke the record for most Audio streams in a week in the US. - 68M
Out of those 68M, 26.3M are from Spotify. 41.7M remain.
Best case scenario (assuming that only Apple Music exists aside from Spotify): 41.7M are from US, while 60M are Global. - 69.5% are from the US. So with that percentage from the 14M Global streams day 1, 9.73M can be from the US.
And this is the best case, the realistic scenario is a bit lower.
But anyways the biggest day on AM is either God's Plan debut or Nonstop debut.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 14:40:56 GMT -5
Since I know a lot of the people that post on and read the weekly chart threads like to predict upcoming weeks and Butter drops 5/21 I have some info that might be of help to some. I posted about it more in the CHR BTS Butter thread with a link for anyone wanting to read more. Senior Vice-President/Head of Urban Promotion at Columbia Records was one of the "Butter Bus" promoters visiting radio stations to promote Butter. He wrote that they were promoting Butter at 5 different radio formats and every major broadcasting company in America. I think Dynamite was only promoted to 3 formats at most.
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Post by ontopofthis on May 8, 2021 14:41:27 GMT -5
He is doubling the song’s Spotify streams on Apple with an interlude. He is going to have his first number one song when he premieres the album if he has any videos ready to go
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Post by Groovy on May 8, 2021 14:44:07 GMT -5
I don't know, maybe it's time to move on from Levitating, and let We're Good have its time to shine. Yeah, that's not happening anytime soon.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 8, 2021 14:55:14 GMT -5
I don't know, maybe it's time to move on from Levitating, and let We're Good have its time to shine. Yeah, that's not happening anytime soon. Then, my guess is that We're Good is probably going to suffer the same fate as In Your Eyes.
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Post by gikem on May 8, 2021 15:13:24 GMT -5
Yeah, that's not happening anytime soon. Then, my guess is that We're Good is probably going to suffer the same fate as In Your Eyes. I think We're Good will be more stable than In Your Eyes ever was, seeing as it got a sales discount and its radio remains rather static right now. It's also already 6 weeks away from passing the projected 2021 YE cutoff, which is closer than IYE was at the same point in its run.
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Post by kimberly on May 8, 2021 15:33:08 GMT -5
Levitating really killed this song's momentum. to be fair there's no way to know exactly how things would have worked out in the alternate scenario, but I think the resurgence of "Levitating" ended up helping this song more than hurting it. "We're Good" never really had much momentum to begin with, so I'm glad it's picking up some.
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Post by iHype. on May 8, 2021 15:54:44 GMT -5
So Cole did over 5m+ on Apple Music US. I really wanna know the biggest streams in a day on Apple Music. I'm 85% sure God's Plan has it with 10m+. I don't think 10M is possible for God's Plan. What has been announced: God's Plan broke the first day record on AM Global. - 14M God's Plan broke the first week record on AM Global. - 60M God's Plan broke the record for most Audio streams in a week in the US. - 68M Out of those 68M, 26.3M are from Spotify. 41.7M remain. Best case scenario (assuming that only Apple Music exists aside from Spotify): 41.7M are from US, while 60M are Global. - 69.5% are from the US. So with that percentage from the 14M Global streams day 1, 9.73M can be from the US. And this is the best case, the realistic scenario is a bit lower. But anyways the biggest day on AM is either God's Plan debut or Nonstop debut.
83% of Scorpion's first week global Apple Music streams were from US. 83%~ of 14 million from God's Plan debut day = 11.55 million. Also, unlike Scorpion which got more US-based streams after opening day for the remainder of its first week, God's Plan got much more global streams throughout the rest of the week compared to its first day. If we go by Spotify numbers for God's Plan: Spotify UK: January 20th (first day) - #3, 387k streams January 25th (last day of tracking week) - #1, 763k streams Spotify Australia: January 20th (first day) - #47, 66k streams January 25th (last day of tracking week) - #1, 253k streams Spotify Germany: January 20th (first day) - #50, 114k streams January 25th (last day of tracking week) - #3, 283k streams So the first day had a much bigger ratio of US-based streams than the first week did.
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Post by Limited Edition on May 8, 2021 16:17:27 GMT -5
I don't know, maybe it's time to move on from Levitating, and let We're Good have its time to shine. That would make sense if We're Good was good. I think it's mediocre and I know I'm not the only one who thinks that. If they wanted to push another song, they should push something from the album (Love Again, Cool) or release a new song.
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Post by gikem on May 8, 2021 16:31:09 GMT -5
I don't know, maybe it's time to move on from Levitating, and let We're Good have its time to shine. That would make sense if We're Good was good. I think it's mediocre and I know I'm not the only one who thinks that. If they wanted to push another song, they should push something from the album (Love Again, Cool) or release a new song. We're Good reminds me of those songs Bruno Mars was pushing in 2018-19 (i.e. Wake Up In The Sky and Please Me) that felt like failed attempts to move away from his retro pastiche in order to appease critics of that style of pop. And yes, I agree with pretty much everyone that it was a complete mistake not to push Love Again. In fact, if she had pushed that instead of We're Good, I'm not sure Levitating would be seeing the massive revival it's been getting. (That's absolutely not a knock on Levitating, which is an awesome song, I'm just saying it probably would have been long gone by now.)
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Post by Groovy on May 8, 2021 16:31:48 GMT -5
We’re Good is just in an awkward position, I guess Dua’s team didn’t expect for Levitating to take off again like it did so they pushed We’re Good when Levitating was starting to peak not expecting for it to become even stronger after the Grammys and if any song they should push is Love Again which looks like it will be whenever Levitating peaks again.
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Post by strongerq on May 8, 2021 16:32:20 GMT -5
I don't think 10M is possible for God's Plan. What has been announced: God's Plan broke the first day record on AM Global. - 14M God's Plan broke the first week record on AM Global. - 60M God's Plan broke the record for most Audio streams in a week in the US. - 68M Out of those 68M, 26.3M are from Spotify. 41.7M remain. Best case scenario (assuming that only Apple Music exists aside from Spotify): 41.7M are from US, while 60M are Global. - 69.5% are from the US. So with that percentage from the 14M Global streams day 1, 9.73M can be from the US. And this is the best case, the realistic scenario is a bit lower. But anyways the biggest day on AM is either God's Plan debut or Nonstop debut.
83% of Scorpion's first week global Apple Music streams were from US. 83%~ of 14 million from God's Plan debut day = 11.55 million. Also, unlike Scorpion which got more US-based streams after opening day for the remainder of its first week, God's Plan got much more global streams throughout the rest of the week compared to its first day. So the first day had a much bigger ratio of US-based streams than the first week did. I don't think you can use 83%, since the week overall is 69.5% from AM (MAX, realistically lower). And regarding the rest of the world taking time to latch onto the song. Here is the first week. / | US | Global | % | 20-01-18 | 2,487,513 | 4,081,753 | 61% | 21-01-18 | 3,319,219 | 5,531,266 | 60% | 22-01-18 | 4,326,679 | 7,393,443 | 59% | 23-01-18 | 4,324,386 | 7,540,696 | 57% | 24-01-18 | 4,708,015 | 8,359,006 | 56% |
But i won't say it is impossible. We don't have AM numbers so all we can do is speculate. Maybe the first day was US heavy, who knows. But given the numbers we do have i would say 10M is unlikely. But yeah even if it didn't hit, it was close to it.
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Post by iHype. on May 8, 2021 17:00:53 GMT -5
83% of Scorpion's first week global Apple Music streams were from US. 83%~ of 14 million from God's Plan debut day = 11.55 million. Also, unlike Scorpion which got more US-based streams after opening day for the remainder of its first week, God's Plan got much more global streams throughout the rest of the week compared to its first day. So the first day had a much bigger ratio of US-based streams than the first week did. I don't think you can use 83%, since the week overall is 69.5% from AM (MAX, realistically lower). And regarding the rest of the world taking time to latch onto the song. Here is the first week. / | US | Global | % | 20-01-18 | 2,487,513 | 4,081,753 | 61% | 21-01-18 | 3,319,219 | 5,531,266 | 60% | 22-01-18 | 4,326,679 | 7,393,443 | 59% | 23-01-18 | 4,324,386 | 7,540,696 | 57% | 24-01-18 | 4,708,015 | 8,359,006 | 56% |
But i won't say it is impossible. We don't have AM numbers so all we can do is speculate. Maybe the first day was US heavy, who knows. But given the numbers we do have i would say 10M is unlikely. But yeah even if it didn't hit, it was close to it. The difference is the US Spotify numbers doubled though. 2.4 million first day to 4.7 million last day of the tracking week. US Apple Music obviously did not. It didn't increase from a 14 million worldwide opening in the subsequent days, since it only did 60 million for the whole 6 days (10 million average). It actually probably declined down like: Day 1 - 14 million, Day 2 - 11 million, Day 3 - 10 million, Day 4 - 10 million, Day 5 - 8 million, Day 6 - 8 million = 61 million. Meaning the Apple Music US number was its highest on Day 1, unlike Spotify. God's Plan grew on Spotify & iTunes in countries like UK/Australia/Germany/France every single day throughout the first week, so I doubt it was declining on Apple Music in those countries -- it was also likely strongly increasing more in those countries each day. Which would again, make the share of US streams on Day 1 way higher than a weekly ratio like 69.5%. God's Plan had a relatively weak start outside US on its first day. Most importantly, statistically, I don't see how it could've been pulling record breaking millions of streams on Europe/Australia Apple Music first day, while being #50~ on Spotify & #30~ on iTunes in those countries. Apple Music usage was non-existent in Asia/Latin America/Africa countries in 2018, and basically still is considering it's paid-only and primarily Western music.
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Post by TakeMe on May 8, 2021 17:32:11 GMT -5
How in any world is this happening?
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Post by Groovy on May 8, 2021 18:08:37 GMT -5
How in any world is this happening? Sales discount
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Post by strongerq on May 8, 2021 18:25:53 GMT -5
I don't think you can use 83%, since the week overall is 69.5% from AM (MAX, realistically lower). And regarding the rest of the world taking time to latch onto the song. Here is the first week. / | US | Global | % | 20-01-18 | 2,487,513 | 4,081,753 | 61% | 21-01-18 | 3,319,219 | 5,531,266 | 60% | 22-01-18 | 4,326,679 | 7,393,443 | 59% | 23-01-18 | 4,324,386 | 7,540,696 | 57% | 24-01-18 | 4,708,015 | 8,359,006 | 56% |
But i won't say it is impossible. We don't have AM numbers so all we can do is speculate. Maybe the first day was US heavy, who knows. But given the numbers we do have i would say 10M is unlikely. But yeah even if it didn't hit, it was close to it. The difference is the US Spotify numbers doubled though. 2.4 million first day to 4.7 million last day of the tracking week. US Apple Music obviously did not. It didn't increase from a 14 million worldwide opening in the subsequent days, since it only did 60 million for the whole 6 days (10 million average). It actually probably declined down like: Day 1 - 14 million, Day 2 - 11 million, Day 3 - 10 million, Day 4 - 10 million, Day 5 - 8 million, Day 6 - 8 million = 61 million. Meaning the Apple Music US number was its highest on Day 1, unlike Spotify. God's Plan grew on Spotify & iTunes in countries like UK/Australia/Germany/France every single day throughout the first week, so I doubt it was declining on Apple Music in those countries -- it was also likely strongly increasing more in those countries each day. Which would again, make the share of US streams on Day 1 way higher than a weekly ratio like 69.5%. God's Plan had a relatively weak start outside US on its first day. Most importantly, statistically, I don't see how it could've been pulling record breaking millions of streams on Europe/Australia Apple Music first day, while being #50~ on Spotify & #30~ on iTunes in those countries. Apple Music usage was non-existent in Asia/Latin America/Africa countries in 2018, and basically still is considering it's paid-only and primarily Western music. I see where you are coming from. But the song doubled first-last day on both US & Global Spotify. So i don't think you can use that as an indicator for more US than Global (day 1). It is most likely a platform thing. Aside from growing in every European country on Spotify through the week, it grew in the US aswell.
ofc the first day on AM was bigger than the rest, not arguing that, i am arguing about the US vs Global ratio not being different day 1 vs day 6 on AM. Since on Spotify it is nearly the same.
AM is more "on-demand" platform so it is more frontloaded (as mentioned in that chartmasters article). And to me, it makes more sense that their respective US vs Global ratio through the week is the same on both platforms than US vs Global ratio stays the same whole week on Spotify, while on AM it is more US dominated first days, then European countries balance it out. Regarding the itunes it was #2 in UK day 1, Canada at #4 and that's it.
The reasoning is AM being more on demand & Spotify being more playlist driven. The weak link in your logic is assuming that just because the song started increasing on Spotify in European countries it must have been the case on AM too, but the thing that kinda cancels that is the song increasing in streams on Spotify in US aswell but not on AM US), The weak link in my logic is assuming that just because the US vs Global ratio was the same every day on Spotify, it must have been the case on AM. AM needs to start sharing numbers lol going to bed now, good night
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 8, 2021 18:40:44 GMT -5
I don't know, maybe it's time to move on from Levitating, and let We're Good have its time to shine. No
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 8, 2021 18:59:39 GMT -5
I just realized that the AITO remix made no impact whatsoever. It's nowhere on Spotify or AM. Turns out if you want a remix to help with the charts, you need artists people actually care about.
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Post by Groovy on May 8, 2021 19:36:53 GMT -5
I just realized that the AITO remix made no impact whatsoever. It's nowhere on Spotify or AM. Turns out if you want a remix to help with the charts, you need artists people actually care about. I didn’t even know it had a remix.
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Post by ontopofthis on May 8, 2021 21:23:05 GMT -5
Who expected the Astronaut in the Ocean remix to have any big impressions on anything anyway? It has G Eazy as the artist
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Post by jthentic on May 8, 2021 21:30:50 GMT -5
Levitating didn't hurt We're good, it's already swindling on all accts. And did you guys forget it tanked on streaming despite being #1 on TTH (made ~400k streams/day) & subsequently kept in top 5 (till recent) of majority playlists incl TTH despite it's poor performance (its playlisting/push was >> than levitating but lacks a name like DaBaby to pull of streams esp on AM). Also it'd heavy push on radio & then stalled (had terrible callouts too like the previous). If u see metrics after levitating's 2nd push some of it's actually trickled to We're good.
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Post by lazer on May 8, 2021 21:34:32 GMT -5
Who the hell asked for a G-Eazy remix of AITO?
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Post by atg on May 8, 2021 22:33:26 GMT -5
^ The same people who asked for a Charlie Puth remix for I Hope.
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