iamsorare
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Post by iamsorare on May 23, 2021 13:13:53 GMT -5
Unpopular Opinion: Butter is just a basic pop song lyrically and Dynamite is better. Dynamite was more catchy but the messy autotune vocals ruined it...butter has better vocals but the song is not good |
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Post by chartfreak on May 23, 2021 13:14:15 GMT -5
I don't think that d**k slip was anything close to real.
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jthentic
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Post by jthentic on May 23, 2021 13:27:28 GMT -5
Fake love is the da only bts track on my playlist, its good
In other-other news AJR won the BBMA's best rock song 💀
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Post by jodakyellow on May 23, 2021 13:29:07 GMT -5
someone's argument for Olivia Rodrigo being a plant is them being on the cover of New Music Friday. I'm not denying she isn't a plant - she is a plant just like Dua and Lana, it's fine. it's really not that big a deal but whatever What would make someone NOT an "industry plant" to this forum? |
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Post by nathanalbright on May 23, 2021 13:42:13 GMT -5
There are a lot of things that make an artist a plant in this forum. Having relatives in the industry, having promotional backing from large companies that lead to playlists and radio might do it. It is hard to imagine an artist that is popular without having something that would make them a plant in the eyes of people here.
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mgkjn11
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Post by mgkjn11 on May 23, 2021 13:43:11 GMT -5
The best BTS song I like is Waste It on Me with Steve Aoki, now that song is actually really good I don’t know why it wasn’t bigger. This is the first song I heard from them in public and didn’t know who they were.
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Groovy
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Post by Groovy on May 23, 2021 13:54:21 GMT -5
Let me get into this BTS debate, all of their singles have been good.
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Post by artv9 on May 23, 2021 13:58:18 GMT -5
The best BTS song I like is Waste It on Me with Steve Aoki, now that song is actually really good I don’t know why it wasn’t bigger. This is the first song I heard from them in public and didn’t know who they were. Seriously??? That's one of their songs that I truly dislike. It's interesting to see how tastes vary. |
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meg
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Post by meg on May 23, 2021 14:08:52 GMT -5
If we are talking about best BTS songs of all time.
Outro: Tear
Epilogue: Young Forever
Pied Piper
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I'm pretty sure most of you never heard of them.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on May 23, 2021 14:10:26 GMT -5
Fake love is the da only bts track on my playlist, its good In other-other news AJR won the BBMA's best rock song 💀 The way it was by far the worst and least rock-sounding out of the nominees ("Monsters", "Heat Waves", "my ex's best friend", and "Level Of Concern"). A real shame, but since the awards are based on chart success, well...it is what it is. I'm surprised "Mood" was considered as rap instead of rock (despite its strong grip on the Rock Charts), and that "Come & Go" probably wasn't considered either. Both have significantly more rock elements compared to "Bang!". |
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Post by samus93 on May 23, 2021 14:11:41 GMT -5
Butter is good but doesn't show off its full potential and I wish the radio had given fake love more of a chance to blossom. I think fire, BST, and dope are some of their best, plus 134340, Dis-ease, and Blue and Grey. Young forever and moving on are also classics.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 23, 2021 14:32:42 GMT -5
In other-other news AJR won the BBMA's best rock song 💀 In exchange for that, at least MGK won the one for best rock album. |
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Post by mms82 on May 23, 2021 14:53:34 GMT -5
I’m so glad they’re filtering streams but like post the numbers already please Spotify
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Post by jeiboy on May 23, 2021 14:55:17 GMT -5
SOUR isn't holding on as well as I'd hoped it would on Apple Music  US Apple Music (30 hours ago):#1. “good 4 u” (=) #3. “traitor” (+4) #4. “deja vu” (=) #5. “brutal” (+4) #7. “enough for you” (+4) #9. “1 step forward, 3 steps back” (+3) #11. “happier” (+4) #13. “jealousy, jealousy” (+8) #14. “favorite crime” (+11) #15. “drivers license” (+4) #17. “hope ur ok” (+9) US Apple Music (right now):#1. “good 4 u” (=) #4. “deja vu” (=) #5. “traitor” (-2) #7. “brutal” (-2) #8. “enough for you” (-1) #10. “happier” (+1) #11. “1 step forward, 3 steps back” (-2) #14. “drivers license” (+1) #18. “favorite crime” (+4) #20. “jealousy, jealousy” (-7) #24. “hope ur ok” (-7) #1. good 4 u (=) #3. deja vu (+1) #4. traitor (+1) #7. brutal (=) #8. enough for you (+1) #10. happier (=) #11. 1sf, 3sb (=) #13. drivers license (+1) #17. favorite Crime (+1) #19. jealousy, jealousy (+2) #23. hope ur ok (+1) |
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Post by korbel16 on May 23, 2021 15:16:55 GMT -5
Pretty good hold
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Post by fridayteenage on May 23, 2021 15:20:13 GMT -5
So day 9 still would've edged out day 1 of that band's song.
top 10 non-xmas days:
13.7 drivers license
13.7 drivers license
13.6 drivers license
13.4 drivers license
12.2 good 4 u
12.1 drivers license
11.6 good 4 u
11.5 drivers license
11.5 drivers license
11.3 drivers license
T10 and she's the T10!
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Post by atg on May 23, 2021 15:27:34 GMT -5
Olivia really gave us the 3 best songs on the album first. I tried to find another song that sounded like the singles but idk. While brutal, traitor, enough for you and hope ur ok are the other songs i go back to, nothing compares to the magic appeal of drivers license, the happier vibe of deja vu, and a mix of both of those songs + a the pop punk elements of good 4 u (which is my most favorite song on the album).
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Post by korbel16 on May 23, 2021 15:31:16 GMT -5
Olivia really gave us the 3 best songs on the album first. I tried to find another song that sounded like the singles but idk. While brutal, traitor, enough for you and hope ur ok are the other songs i go back to, nothing compares to the magic appeal of drivers license, the happier vibe of deja vu, and a mix of both of those songs + a the pop punk elements of good 4 u (which is my most favorite song on the album). yup, she absolutely nailed single choices |
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iamsorare
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Post by iamsorare on May 23, 2021 15:34:09 GMT -5
Good 4 u was not an official single (just a promo single).. The label was fast and made it an official single after a few days cause they saw the potential
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on May 23, 2021 15:37:39 GMT -5
Olivia really gave us the 3 best songs on the album first. I tried to find another song that sounded like the singles but idk. While brutal, traitor, enough for you and hope ur ok are the other songs i go back to, nothing compares to the magic appeal of drivers license, the happier vibe of deja vu, and a mix of both of those songs + a the pop punk elements of good 4 u (which is my most favorite song on the album). yup, she absolutely nailed single choices A reverse Taylor experience - good thing Olivia learned to not make the same mistakes as her inspiration, and give the general public the best possible impression of her work. |
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Post by Limited Edition on May 23, 2021 15:40:21 GMT -5
Butter first day numbers on Spotify:
WW: 11,042,335
US: 1,917,442
Second day:
WW: 8,858,814
US: 1,483,641
Decrease:
WW: 19.77%
US: 22.62%
Dynamite first day numbers on Spotify:
WW: 7,778,950
US: 1,824,254
Second day:
WW: 6,260,699
US: 1,439,065
Decrease:
WW: 19.52%
US: 21.11%
Very similar decrease for both songs.
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Post by fridayteenage on May 23, 2021 15:47:27 GMT -5
Spotify US day 2
Sour 9 out of T10
Folklore 10 (+11&12)
Thank U Next 10 (+11)
Evermore 7
Lover 7
When We All Fall Asleep 7
Positions 4
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s9983
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Post by s9983 on May 23, 2021 16:06:05 GMT -5
Good 4 u was not an official single (just a promo single).. The label was fast and made it an official single after a few days cause they saw the potential how many promo singles u see getting full video treatment lmao. It definitely was a single and the most obvious one on the album, even moreso than driver's license. I seriously think good 4 u could be as big as driver's license, maybe not PEAK DL but i can definitely see more longevity here. Radios are gonna EAT that song UP |
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Post by s9983 on May 23, 2021 16:11:25 GMT -5
I really think Olivia is gonna the next big thing. Like the next katy perry, rihanna or gaga (although not sure if she can attain that typa longevity). Her numbers are just PHENOMENAL, how many artists do we see debuting at #1 with 2 of their first 3 singles ORGANICALLY? Like EVER??
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Post by jaydoesnotknow on May 23, 2021 16:14:57 GMT -5
If we are talking about best BTS songs of all time. Outro: Tear Epilogue: Young Forever Pied Piper 134340 I'm pretty sure most of you never heard of them. The songs they and their small in house team at BigHit create are top tier. From lyrics, production, composition, etc. etc. F***ing amazing. I wish they and the BigHit producers had more of a hand with their English singles but I’m not complaining too much... they’re catchy and don’t reflect on the rest of the discography. |
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jodakyellow
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Post by jodakyellow on May 23, 2021 18:16:39 GMT -5
There are a lot of things that make an artist a plant in this forum. Having relatives in the industry, having promotional backing from large companies that lead to playlists and radio might do it. It is hard to imagine an artist that is popular without having something that would make them a plant in the eyes of people here. Exactly! Support from the industry and being an "industry plant" are two very different things... Obviously there are plenty of deserving artists who don't get as much industry support as others, but calling the ones who do "plants" to delegitimize their very real success is silly. |
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Post by pokepikalem on May 23, 2021 18:25:53 GMT -5
If we are talking about best BTS songs of all time. Outro: Tear Epilogue: Young Forever Pied Piper 134340 I'm pretty sure most of you never heard of them. These are pretty good selections! Their more pop-oriented songs would’ve been spring day and mic drop for me. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 23, 2021 18:30:15 GMT -5
Is “industry plant” the next Pulse obsession as a term to use against separate groups of artists to make them seem less credible?
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Post by nathanalbright on May 23, 2021 18:31:13 GMT -5
It seems to be a general obsession among those who are fans of music criticism in general to delegitimize various acts that happen to have received popularity.
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shaz196
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Post by shaz196 on May 23, 2021 18:44:04 GMT -5
Many of the biggest pop stars from the past 30 years started out as Mouseketeers, had their own show on Disney/Nickelodeon or were signed to major labels before they released a song or could even legally drive.
The "industry plant" criticism only makes sense in genres like hip hop or rock were a "started from the bottom" grind is highly valued.
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