Gary
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Post by Gary on Jun 5, 2021 13:02:13 GMT -5
Essentially the biggest album of the early part of the year and even now still in the top 5. People like the music
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Post by Choco on Jun 5, 2021 13:10:37 GMT -5
Let's be real a big percentage of country singers probably use or used the n-word. Wallen is just stupid enough to get it on video.
Some people like Chris Brown have done far worse (not just the Rihanna case, this is legitimately a terrible human being still getting consistent support from the industry); I also think that 2020/2021 is a horrible time and I ain't gonna judge people that find joy on Wallen's music because we all need some joy in our lives right now.
Do I support the guy? No. But he was clearly reasonating in a big way even prior to that video and radio programmers probably get requests for his material constantly.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 5, 2021 15:35:31 GMT -5
Fortunately, Polo G is going to release a 20-track album next week, so Wasted On You is going to be pushed off the Hot 100, and could be left off the chart until it enters the Top 50. Precedence was set by Polo G's "Martin & Gina":
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Post by Mayman on Jun 5, 2021 15:45:12 GMT -5
I think that tweet is a little overblown. No major radio companies are re-adding any of Morgan Wallen's music. It's the smaller stations, which have a negligible impact on anything chart-wise, that might be putting on some of his songs. I'm not sure why people are saying that this could lead to his songs, like Wasted On You, to move up/return to the Hot 100. This won't do anything at all. If any of his songs are on the Hot 100, it's due to streaming, not a handful of audience impressions.
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Post by oliviafan101 on Jun 5, 2021 15:48:26 GMT -5
Ah shit, here we go again Fuck all racists and fuck racism
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Post by whales10268 on Jun 5, 2021 16:06:22 GMT -5
People need to get over Morgan Wallen. His life and career don’t need to be destroyed over a mistake. There’s clearly no forgiveness from the woke outrage cancel culture mob.
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Post by whales10268 on Jun 5, 2021 16:06:48 GMT -5
His music is great and I’ve listened to Dangerous many times.
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Post by violentdreams on Jun 5, 2021 16:10:06 GMT -5
I'm surprised it took this long for them to go back to playing him tbh. They clearly only pulled his music out of fear that a mass consumer revolt was gonna happen if they didn't, but barely any of his fans cared and most of them continued streaming him like nothing happened. It was a misguided attempt to mitigate controversy that never really materialized outside of Twitter and specific spheres of the internet like this one.
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Groovy
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Post by Groovy on Jun 5, 2021 16:11:10 GMT -5
When you do something over and over again it’s hardly a mistake.
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Post by whales10268 on Jun 5, 2021 16:15:13 GMT -5
When you do something over and over again it’s hardly a mistake. He hasn’t done it over and over again as far as we know. You can assume he’s said it before this instance but you can’t hold someone accountable for life to something that hasn’t been proven. He didn’t even use the word in a racial context for Pete’s sake.
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Post by Groovy on Jun 5, 2021 16:18:18 GMT -5
When you do something over and over again it’s hardly a mistake. He hasn’t done it over and over again as far as we know. You can assume he’s said it before this instance but you can’t hold someone accountable for life to something that hasn’t been proven. He didn’t even use the word in a racial context for Pete’s sake. I’m talking about the alcohol and the partying which has gotten in him in trouble multiple times.
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Post by whales10268 on Jun 5, 2021 16:20:00 GMT -5
He hasn’t done it over and over again as far as we know. You can assume he’s said it before this instance but you can’t hold someone accountable for life to something that hasn’t been proven. He didn’t even use the word in a racial context for Pete’s sake. I’m talking about the alcohol and the partying which has gotten in him in trouble multiple times. Well we’ll see if he messes up again and proves you right. The people upset about Wallen were never in the country music listening demo anyway. Once radio stations are done virtue signaling he’ll be number 1 on country radio again.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 5, 2021 16:25:30 GMT -5
I’m talking about the alcohol and the partying which has gotten in him in trouble multiple times. Well we’ll see if he messes up again and proves you right. The people upset about Wallen were never in the country music listening demo anyway. Once radio stations are done virtue signaling he’ll be number 1 on country radio again. I agree. I'm not a fan of Morgan Wallen, but if scumbags like Chris Brown and Justin Bieber can continue to get chance after chance, then Morgan deserves at least one chance to redeem himself.
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Post by ZERO on Jun 5, 2021 17:44:39 GMT -5
I think that tweet is a little overblown. No major radio companies are re-adding any of Morgan Wallen's music. It's the smaller stations, which have a negligible impact on anything chart-wise, that might be putting on some of his songs. I'm not sure why people are saying that this could lead to his songs, like Wasted On You, to move up/return to the Hot 100. This won't do anything at all. If any of his songs are on the Hot 100, it's due to streaming, not a handful of audience impressions. EXACTLY! It's not even newer/current songs that are being played (they got 0 adds), only More Than My Hometown and Chasin' You are back on Mediabase (recurrents)... so I frankly have no clue what this tweet is sourcing, even moreso when you add the fact that Big Loud hasn't announced his return to label's activity - so why would they work a radio single??? Plus, it's VERY obvious that the industry still doesn't like him - and I'm not talking about the artists themselves. He didn't appear on the ACMs or the BBMAs for a REASON... He still has ways to go before reinstating a clean profile to many, many people - and that is on him and him only to do
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Post by atg on Jun 5, 2021 18:29:07 GMT -5
Why... I mean, it was bound to happen eventually, but I was hoping the GP would have forgotten about him by then, effectively ruining his momentum. But if the album's performance on the Billboard 200 has been any indication, his demographic simply doesn't care. 😔 Should we really treat him like he’s another CB or 69 though? He’s only done his crime verbally and while that is no excuse to start treating him like nothing ever happened, I don’t think his punishment should be as big and he was bound to come back anyways when enough of the GP has moved on from it. It’s not like he has a public case or any charges to his name so bouncing back is completely doable. I’m not defending his actions, just stating my opinion.
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Post by fridayteenage on Jun 5, 2021 19:45:02 GMT -5
Well we’ll see if he messes up again and proves you right. The people upset about Wallen were never in the country music listening demo anyway. Once radio stations are done virtue signaling he’ll be number 1 on country radio again. I agree. I'm not a fan of Morgan Wallen, but if scumbags like Chris Brown and Justin Bieber can continue to get chance after chance, then Morgan deserves at least one chance to redeem himself. amp.tmz.com/2021/05/22/morgan-wallen-performing-again-no-meeting-naacp-nashville/Hmm.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 5, 2021 21:56:36 GMT -5
People need to get over Morgan Wallen. His life and career don’t need to be destroyed over a mistake. There’s clearly no forgiveness from the woke outrage cancel culture mob. This isn't a "little mistake". If someone less famous and with less power than Morgan did the same thing, they'd be fired on the spot because there should be no tolerance for explicit racism. That said, forgiveness needs to be earned. I'm all in favor of someone truly changing and reforming but 6 months of being blackballed are just the consequences of his actions. If he's really changed, then he has earnestly and sincerely show it.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 5, 2021 22:08:44 GMT -5
Why... I mean, it was bound to happen eventually, but I was hoping the GP would have forgotten about him by then, effectively ruining his momentum. But if the album's performance on the Billboard 200 has been any indication, his demographic simply doesn't care. 😔 Nashville that is why, not surprised at all. I remember mentioning this a couple of weeks ago that I figured this was going to happen when WOY appeared back on the Hot 100, but sometimes it's not enjoyable to be right about this sort of thing.
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Post by tanooki on Jun 5, 2021 22:36:31 GMT -5
There’s clearly no forgiveness from the woke outrage cancel culture mob. shut the fuck up
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 5, 2021 23:14:35 GMT -5
Nashville that is why, not surprised at all. I remember mentioning this a couple of weeks ago that I figured this was going to happen when WOY appeared back on the Hot 100, but sometimes it's not enjoyable to be right about this sort of thing. Don't worry, you can stream Polo G's 20-track album next week to make sure WOY drops off the Hot 100 for good (if Lil Baby & Lil Durk's tracks don't do the trick already).
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Post by jthentic on Jun 5, 2021 23:24:56 GMT -5
Big Tommy's new garbage is projected to do 27k sales, he's regurgitating da same song with same bs for da 1000000th time (with title change tho💀), wtf is wrong with ppl?
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Post by Darkest Hour on Jun 5, 2021 23:59:03 GMT -5
No major radio companies are re-adding any of Morgan Wallen's music. It's the smaller stations, which have a negligible impact on anything chart-wise, that might be putting on some of his songs. If you are using stricter sense of "adds" (as in adds the songs in rotation rather than isolated plays), then it is true. However, the stations that are playing Morgan Wallen's music right now are owned by major radio companies. I quote the following information from latest Country Aircheck issue. It's the sign that his music will be played to more and more people in the coming weeks that some are worried.
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Post by notgoodenglish on Jun 6, 2021 2:23:33 GMT -5
I’m hoping Todo De Ti can push into the top ten of Spotify at the very least, I mean we haven’t had a throwback Spanish song be a hit yet. Im so happily surprised that Todo De Ti its doing so well, not just here in latinoamerica that is huge, but in United States :O Its not a typical reggaeton song, no no no, its not a reggaeton song at all. but Rauw Alejandro is a reggaeton artist, he made a retro back song a la blinding lights/save your tears with this. its soooo gooood. He doing that numbers and now with Bad Bunny smashing as usual in US Spotify /worldwide with his new song. So Happy with my latam artists killing it !!
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 6, 2021 3:41:14 GMT -5
The old Morgan Wallen songs are not an issue. They won't do anything on Hot 100. However, when his next new track is released, it'll cross over to pop effortlessly and no one will remember the scandal.
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Post by iamsorare on Jun 6, 2021 4:03:43 GMT -5
The old Morgan Wallen songs are not an issue. They won't do anything on Hot 100. However, when his next new track is released, it'll cross over to pop effortlessly and no one will remember the scandal. no one remembers camila's scandal too so yeah that's how it works for some people
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Post by iamsorare on Jun 6, 2021 4:04:28 GMT -5
I wonder if peaches can return back in top 3 of hot 100 with the upcoming remix
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jun 6, 2021 5:10:11 GMT -5
The old Morgan Wallen songs are not an issue. They won't do anything on Hot 100. However, when his next new track is released, it'll cross over to pop effortlessly and no one will remember the scandal. no one remembers camila's scandal too so yeah that's how it works for some people Camila is a different story since her demographic is different to that from Wallen, and if this community is any indication (+ popheads and ATRL), her racist posts have been strongly associated with her name since "Romance" 's release. It's also worth mentioning that she didn't just sing the n-word during a song like Dua Lipa did, but shared several posts featuring vile mockery and racist jokes, made worse by the fact she went on to join a girl group alongside Normani - who had to deal with racist attacks from Camila fans. Of course, we'll only get a proper verdict once she releases a new song, but I just wanted to share my opinion on why the two cases cannot quite be compared. (Disclaimer: it is not my place to comment on the situation or whether or not she can be forgiven, but I do want to highlight she probably grew up surrounded by friends and family who might have used such language and normalized racist jokes, and despite never considering myself much of a fan, I do hope she's working on unlearning past bigotry and improving herself as a person. Unlike 27-year-old Wallen, Camila was allegedly only 15-16 when she shared these posts, when one's brain is still being molded and developed by the world around them. But forgiveness, if any, needs to be earned, and I totally understand why some people might have their perception of her eternally tainted.) I wonder if peaches can return back in top 3 of hot 100 with the upcoming remix The remix has really piqued my interest, and I'd give anything to see Usher smashing on the charts again. Him and Katy really had to be stuck at 9 #1 hits.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 6, 2021 6:38:13 GMT -5
Roddy Ricch outlasting Lil Baby and Lil Durk on Spotify it seems, surprising! Roddy is #23, Hats Off #27 as the highest Baby/Durk track. Bad Bunny still #3!
Good 4 U is up to #4 on AM.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 6, 2021 6:46:53 GMT -5
People need to get over Morgan Wallen. His life and career don’t need to be destroyed over a mistake. There’s clearly no forgiveness from the woke outrage cancel culture mob. This isn't a "little mistake". If someone less famous and with less power than Morgan did the same thing, they'd be fired on the spot because there should be no tolerance for explicit racism. That said, forgiveness needs to be earned. I'm all in favor of someone truly changing and reforming but 6 months of being blackballed are just the consequences of his actions. If he's really changed, then he has earnestly and sincerely show it. I agree, but the issue is he hasn't actually shown he's made a real effort to grow/learn. fridayteenage points out he never even met with the NAACP as promised. whales10268 what has Wallen done to show he understands what he did was wrong and that he is going to be anti-racist moving forward?
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Post by iamsorare on Jun 6, 2021 6:57:33 GMT -5
Roddy Ricch outlasting Lil Baby and Lil Durk on Spotify it seems, surprising! Roddy is #23, Hats Off #27 as the highest Baby/Durk track. Bad Bunny still #3! Good 4 U is up to #4 on AM. thank god lil baby and lil durk won't have a huge album bomb on hot 100..Polo G is coming next week ..he didn't have huge success on the charts before RAPSTAR so I don't know what he will do now...
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