Billboard Hot 100: 07/24/2021

[Az Paynter]

I can't imagine the other labels would take too kindly to a revolving door of #1 hits for one act and one act only. I could see them lobbying Billboard to do what we all wish they would do and cut the sales abuse loophole off at the knees.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 18, 2021 7:09:49 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jul 18, 2021 6:58:17 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

At this rate, BTS could release a new single every week and keep replacing themselves at #1. Watch them do it and score 30 #1s by 2022.

Please don't put any ideas in the heads of these stans, though maybe BTS getting near The Beatles would bring enough attention to force a rule change.

Trust that now that they're about to replace themselves at #1 and they've seen just how easy it is to score #1s with all the #1s they've scored from last year till now, they'll just double down on their mass-buying. They'll have at least 10 #1s before the end of next year. I can almost assure it.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 18, 2021 7:13:44 GMT -5 Az Paynter said:

I can't imagine the other labels would take too kindly to a revolving door of #1 hits for one act and one act only. I could see them lobbying Billboard to do what we all wish they would do and cut the sales abuse loophole off at the knees.

One can only hope so. I actually want BTS to keep scoring these fraudulent #1s at a ridiculous rate so more people take notice of just how silly it all is.

[dovahduck]

At this rate, if Billboard doesn't update the system, they may actually tie or surpass the record for the most #1s off one album. They really only have to strongly push three (or two if you ignore Dynamite's inclusion on BE) more singles to tie MJ and KP.

[jenglisbe]

Off topic but related to the charts, I see Wikipedia has "In the Summertime" as the #3 selling single of all-time with 30 million sold. Between the US, UK, France, and Germany its total certs are apparently 2 million. Where are all of those other sales coming from?

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 18, 2021 5:26:59 GMT -5 oliviafan101 said:

Jul 18, 2021 5:22:47 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

No one remembers Permission to Dance even 1 week from the release. Let's see how many weeks it'll get at #1.

It will get the same number of weeks at #1 of its peak position.

Agreed, PTD is going to be a forgotten one-week #1 like What's Next (just without the re-entering the chart at the end of its run), while Stay ends up being the LTDO of this debut class.

[bbdenney94]

Jul 18, 2021 7:59:21 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Off topic but related to the charts, I see Wikipedia has "In the Summertime" as the #3 selling single of all-time with 30 million sold. Between the US, UK, France, and Germany its total certs are apparently 2 million. Where are all of those other sales coming from?

The song probably wasn't submitted for certification after its initial chart run. There are a ton of classic songs from back in the day that only have a Gold record. So it's probably sold a ton worldwide (including the US) in the past 40 years, but certification wasn't a huge priority.

[jenglisbe]

Jul 18, 2021 9:46:56 GMT -5 bbdenney94 said:

Jul 18, 2021 7:59:21 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Off topic but related to the charts, I see Wikipedia has "In the Summertime" as the #3 selling single of all-time with 30 million sold. Between the US, UK, France, and Germany its total certs are apparently 2 million. Where are all of those other sales coming from?

The song probably wasn't submitted for certification after its initial chart run. There are a ton of classic songs from back in the day that only have a Gold record. So it's probably sold a ton worldwide (including the US) in the past 40 years, but certification wasn't a huge priority.

That makes sense, but it’s still surprising to me it might be #3 all-time.

[algo]

bts fans are just rapidly turning off potential fans the more they do this. a lot of people on twitter have told me they like the music but just can't put bts in their stan list because of how cocky it all feels. manipulating the charts does not make you look good to the general public anyone who's not already a fan
 
EDIT: me included.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 18, 2021 9:48:37 GMT -5 algo said:

bts fans are just rapidly turning off potential fans the more they do this. a lot of people on twitter have told me they like the music but just can't put bts in their stan list because of how cocky it all feels. manipulating the charts does not make you look good to the general public anyone who's not already a fan
 
EDIT: me included.

Funny how BTS fans hate their band being compared to One Direction but their cocky mentality is exactly similar to that of Directioners and every standom that has this "Us vs. Them mentality" with the rest of the world. And again, this isn't a problem strictly with BTS or even in pop - metalheads and hip-hop heads are also notorious gatekeepers. All of them turn people off with this pompous attitude and prevent people from discovering new music.

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

July 17, 1961 (For the week ending July 22)

01 01 Tossin' & Turnin' - Bobby Lewis (2nd of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 The Boll Weevil Song - Brook Benton
03 03 Quarter To Three - Gary U.S. Bonds
04 04 Raindrops - Dee Clark
05 08 Yellow Bird - The Arthur Lyman Group
06 09 Hats Off To Larry - Del Shannon
07 06 Every Beat Of My Heart - The Pips
08 11 San Antonio Rose - Floyd Cramer
09 14 I Like It Like That - Chris Kenner
10 13 Dum Dum - Brenda Lee


July 23, 1966

01 01 Hanky Panky - Tommy James & The Shondells (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Wild Thing - The Troggs
03 09 Lil Red Riding Hood - Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs
04 12 The Pied Piper - Crispian St. Peters
05 04 You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield
06 05 Paperback Writer - The Beatles
07 10 Hungry - Paul Revere & The Raiders
08 03 Red Rubber Ball - Cyrkle
09 14 I Saw Her Again - The Mamas & The Papas
10 15 Sweet Pea - Tommy Roe

21 53 Summer In The City - The Lovin' Spoonful
25 50 Sunny - Bobby Hebb


July 24, 1971

01 02 Indian Reservation - The Raiders (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 It's Too Late / I Feel The Earth Move - Carole King
03 03 You've Got a Friend - James Taylor
04 04 Don't Pull Your Love - Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds
05 06 Mr. Big Stuff - Jean Knight
06 05 Treat Her Like a Lady - The Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose
07 08 Draggin' The Line - Tommy James
08 09 How Can You Mend a Broken Heart - The Bee Gees
09 12 Take Me Home, Country Roads - John Denver
10 13 Sooner Or Later - The Grass Roots


July 24, 1976

01 02 Kiss And Say Goodbye - The Manhattans (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Afternoon Delight - The Starland Vocal Band
03 03 I'll Be Good To You - The Brothers Johnson
04 05 Moonlight Feels Right - Starbuck
05 06 Love Is Alive - Gary Wright
06 16 Get Closer - Seals & Crofts
07 08 Got To Get You Into My Life - The Beatles
08 23 Don't Go Breaking My Heart - Elton John & Kiki Dee
09 10 Rock & Roll Music - The Beach Boys
10 11 Let Her In - John Travolta


July 25, 1981

01 03 The One That You Love - Air Supply (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Bette Davis Eyes - Kim Carnes
03 04 Jessie's Girl - Rick Springfield
04 07 Theme From Greatest American Hero - Joey Scarbury
05 06 Elvira - The Oak Ridge Boys
06 08 I Don't Need You - Kenny Rogers
07 09 Slow Hand - The Pointer Sisters
08 05 You Make My Dreams - Daryl Hall & John Oates
09 10 Boy From New York City - Manhattan Transfer
10 11 Hearts - Marty Balin

[Gary]

As everyone's favorite artist is about to get their 5th #1 here is a quick look at the other artists with 5+ (since 1955)


ARTIST #1'S
BEATLES 20
MARIAH CAREY 19
ElVIS PRESLEY 17
RIHANNA 14
MICHAEL JACKSON 13
SUPREMES 12
MADONNA 12
WHITNEY HOUSTON 11
STEVIE WONDER 10
GEORGE MICHAEL 10
JANET JACKSON 10
BEE GEES 9
PAUL MCCARTNEY 9
ELTON JOHN 9
USHER 9
KATY PERRY 9
ROLLING STONES 8
DRAKE 8
BRUNO MARS 8
PHIL COLLINS 7
BEYONCE 7
JUSTIN BIEBER 7
TAYLOR SWIFT 7
PAT BOONE 6
DIANA ROSS 6
DARYL HALL & JOHN OATES 6
PAULA ABDUL 6
RIANA GRANDE 6
THE WEEKND 6
BARRA STREISAND 5
4 SEASONS 5
EAGLES 5
K.C. & THE SUNSHINE BAND 5
OLIVIA NEWTON JOHN 5
LIONEL RICHIE 5
BON JOVI 5
PRINCE 5
BOYZ II MEN 5
CHER 5
CHRISTINA AGUILERA 5
EMINEM 5
BRITNEY SPEARS 5
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE 5
LADY GAGA 5
CARDI B 5

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

July 26, 1986

01 02 Sledgehammer - Peter Gabriel (1st and only week at #1)
02 04 Danger Zone - Kenny Loggins
03 01 Invisible Touch - Genesis
04 03 Nasty - Janet Jackson
05 07 Glory Of Love - Peter Cetera
06 12 Papa Don't Preach - Madonna
07 10 Love Touch - Rod Stewart
08 11 Mad About You - Belinda Carlisle
09 05 Holding Back The Years - Simply Red
10 15 Modern Woman - Billy Joel


July 27, 1991

01 04 (Everything I Do) I Do It For You - Bryan Adams (1st of 7 weeks at #1)
02 03 Right Here, Right Now - Jesus Jones
03 01 Unbelievable - EMF
04 05 P.A.S.S.I.O.N. - Rythm Syndicate
05 09 Summertime - DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
06 02 Rush Rush - Paula Abdul
07 07 Piece Of My Heart - Tara Kemp
08 12 Every Heartbeat - Amy Grant
09 13 It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over - Lenny Kravitz
10 15 Temptation - Corina


July 27, 1996

01 02 You're Makin' Me High / Let It Flow - Toni Braxton (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 How Do U Want It / California Love - 2Pac feat. K-Ci & JoJo
03 03 Give Me One Reason - Tracy Chapman
04 04 Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix) - Los Del Rio
05 06 Twisted - Keith Sweat
06 NE You Learn / You Oughta Know - Alanis Morissette
07 09 Change The World - Eric Clapton
08 07 I Can't Sleep Baby (If I) - R. Kelly
09 08 C'mon N Ride It (The Train) - The Quad City DJ's
10 05 Tha Crossroads - Bone Thugs-n-Harmony

16 NE Elevators (Me & You) - Outkast


July 21, 2001

01 01 U Remind Me - Usher (3rd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 05 Hit 'Em Up Style (Oops!) - Blu Cantrell
03 04 Let Me Blow Ya Mind - Eve feat. Gwen Stefani
04 06 Peaches & Cream - 112
05 02 Hanging By a Moment - Lifehouse
06 07 Drops Of Jupiter (Tell Me) - Train
07 03 Lady Marmalade - Christina Aguilera, Lil Kim, Mya & P!nk
08 08 Bootylicious - Destiny's Child
09 17 All Or Nothing - O-Town
10 10 Drive - Incubus

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 18, 2021 10:26:37 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

July 25, 1981

01 03 The One That You Love - Air Supply (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Bette Davis Eyes - Kim Carnes
03 04 Jessie's Girl - Rick Springfield
04 07 Theme From Greatest American Hero - Joey Scarbury
05 06 Elvira - The Oak Ridge Boys
06 08 I Don't Need You - Kenny Rogers
07 09 Slow Hand - The Pointer Sisters
08 05 You Make My Dreams - Daryl Hall & John Oates
09 10 Boy From New York City - Manhattan Transfer
10 11 Hearts - Marty Balin

I'm a huge Air Supply fan, and I get to see them in concert this weekend. Fitting it would be on the 40th anniversary of their only #1 hit, although they deserved quite a few more. I have always felt Lost In Love was their biggest hit.

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

July 22, 2006

01 01 Promiscuous - Nelly Furtado feat. Timbaland (3rd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 03 Crazy - Gnarls Barkley
03 04 Me & U - Cassie
04 02 Hips Don't Lie - Shakira feat. Wyclef Jean
05 05 It's Goin' Down - Yung Joc
06 08 Unfaithful - Rihanna
07 06 Ain't No Other Man - Christina Aguilera
08 09 Snap Yo Fingers - Lil Jon feat. E-40 & Sean P
09 07 Ridin' - Chamillionaire feat. Krayzie Bone
10 11 Over My Head (Cable Car) - The Fray


July 23, 2011

01 01 Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO feat. Lauren Bennett & Goonrock (2nd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 Give Me Everything - Pitbull feat. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer
03 03 Rolling In The Deep - Adele
04 04 Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) - Katy Perry
05 05 Super Bass - Nicki Minaj
06 06 The Edge Of Glory - Lady Gaga
07 08 How To Love - Lil Wayne
08 09 Good Life - OneRepublic
09 10 Tonight Tonight - Hot Chelle Rae
10 07 E.T. - Katy Perry feat. Kanye West


July 23, 2016

01 01 One Dance - Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla (9th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Can't Stop The Feeling! - Justin Timberlake
03 03 Don't Let Me Down - The Chainsmokers feat. Daya
04 05 This Is What You Came For - Calvin Harris feat. Rihanna
05 06 Cheap Thrills - Sia feat. Sean Paul
06 04 Panda - Desiigner
07 07 Needed Me - Rihanna
08 09 Ride - Twenty One Pilots
09 08 Don't Mind - Kent Jones
10 10 Work From Home - Fifth Harmony feat. Ty Dolla $ign


July 25, 2020

01 01 ROCKSTAR - DaBaby feat. Roddy Ricch (6th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 NE Come & Go - Juice WRLD x Marshmello
03 03 What's Poppin' - Jack Harlow feat. DaBaby, Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne
04 02 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd
05 NE Wishing Well - Juice WRLD
06 04 Savage - Megan Thee Stallion
07 NE Conversations - Juice WRLD
08 05 Roses (Imanbek Remix) - SAINt JHN
09 74 Life's a Mess - Juice WRLD x Halsey
10 NE Hate The Other Side - Juice WRLD & Marshmello feat. Polo G & The Kid Laroi

12 NE Blood On My Jeans - Juice WRLD
14 NE Titanic - Juice WRLD
15 NE Righteous - Juice WRLD
16 NE Bad Energy - Juice WRLD
22 NE The Adventures Of Moon Man & Slim Shady - Kid Cudi & Eminem

[Clode]

Jul 18, 2021 10:42:34 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 18, 2021 10:26:37 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

July 25, 1981

01 03 The One That You Love - Air Supply (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Bette Davis Eyes - Kim Carnes
03 04 Jessie's Girl - Rick Springfield
04 07 Theme From Greatest American Hero - Joey Scarbury
05 06 Elvira - The Oak Ridge Boys
06 08 I Don't Need You - Kenny Rogers
07 09 Slow Hand - The Pointer Sisters
08 05 You Make My Dreams - Daryl Hall & John Oates
09 10 Boy From New York City - Manhattan Transfer
10 11 Hearts - Marty Balin

I'm a huge Air Supply fan, and I get to see them in concert this weekend. Fitting it would be on the 40th anniversary of their only #1 hit, although they deserved quite a few more. I have always felt Lost In Love was their biggest hit.

Yes I really like Air Supply as well, They have many timeless songs my favorite song from them would have to be "All Out of Love". 

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Jul 18, 2021 8:04:09 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 18, 2021 5:26:59 GMT -5 oliviafan101 said:

It will get the same number of weeks at #1 of its peak position.

Agreed, PTD is going to be a forgotten one-week #1 like What's Next (just without the re-entering the chart at the end of its run), while Stay ends up being the LTDO of this debut class.

Probably not surprising since Life Goes On had already set a precedent.

[atg]

I honestly think Dynamite was their true #1 hit, and everything else after that was just a complete sales manipulation/mass buying scheme. Life Goes On was a perfect example of what happens when mass buying are not on their side. If anything i’m surprised that ARMY aren’t making the massive streaming numbers happen as that matters more nowadays, and they wouldn’t crash into free fall when the sales die down.

[Fears in the Fire]

Jul 18, 2021 11:41:46 GMT -5 atg said:

I honestly think Dynamite was their true #1 hit, and everything else after that was just a complete sales manipulation/mass buying scheme. Life Goes On was a perfect example of what happens when mass buying are not on their side. If anything i’m surprised that ARMY aren’t making the massive streaming numbers happen as that matters more nowadays, and they wouldn’t crash into free fall when the sales die down.

It’s much easier to mass buy than mass stream

[fridayteenage]

the first weeks each of dynamite and butter were acceptable given the streaming was at least strong then.

[kalmanta]

Jul 18, 2021 10:42:12 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

July 26, 1986

01 02 Sledgehammer - Peter Gabriel (1st and only week at #1)
02 04 Danger Zone - Kenny Loggins
03 01 Invisible Touch - Genesis

Has that ever been repeated, a band member replacing his/her original band?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 18, 2021 11:41:46 GMT -5 atg said:

I honestly think Dynamite was their true #1 hit, and everything else after that was just a complete sales manipulation/mass buying scheme. Life Goes On was a perfect example of what happens when mass buying are not on their side. If anything i’m surprised that ARMY aren’t making the massive streaming numbers happen as that matters more nowadays, and they wouldn’t crash into free fall when the sales die down.

As I said earlier, the reason it's easier to mass buy is because Spotify filters out fraud streams so all those playlists that are just Butter over and over again or even just leaving Butter on a loop, those might count for Last.fm scrobbles but they won't for Spotify's counters.

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 18, 2021 11:41:46 GMT -5 atg said:

I honestly think Dynamite was their true #1 hit, and everything else after that was just a complete sales manipulation/mass buying scheme. Life Goes On was a perfect example of what happens when mass buying are not on their side. If anything i’m surprised that ARMY aren’t making the massive streaming numbers happen as that matters more nowadays, and they wouldn’t crash into free fall when the sales die down.

While this is true, I'd also have to say that Butter was bigger/more legitimate than a lot of the #1's in 2020, like THE SCOTTS, Stuck With U, and Franchise. I always keep pointing to the fact that the removal of UGC almost coincided with this, and it probably would have if we didn't have big #1 hits like The Box and Blinding Lights at the beginning of 2020.

[Choco]

Jul 18, 2021 10:36:33 GMT -5 Gary said:

As everyone's favorite artist is about to get their 5th #1

[Naos]

Jul 18, 2021 11:41:46 GMT -5 atg said:

I honestly think Dynamite was their true #1 hit, and everything else after that was just a complete sales manipulation/mass buying scheme. Life Goes On was a perfect example of what happens when mass buying are not on their side. If anything i’m surprised that ARMY aren’t making the massive streaming numbers happen as that matters more nowadays, and they wouldn’t crash into free fall when the sales die down.

I could say they're as legitimate as a lot of one-week #1s. Some are just frontloaded and fall fast. They'd all probably go to #1 regardless, just not stick around as long.

[Choco]

Jul 18, 2021 12:38:36 GMT -5 Naos said:

Jul 18, 2021 11:41:46 GMT -5 atg said:

I honestly think Dynamite was their true #1 hit, and everything else after that was just a complete sales manipulation/mass buying scheme. Life Goes On was a perfect example of what happens when mass buying are not on their side. If anything i’m surprised that ARMY aren’t making the massive streaming numbers happen as that matters more nowadays, and they wouldn’t crash into free fall when the sales die down.

I could say they're as legitimate as a lot of one-week #1s. Some are just frontloaded and fall fast. They'd all probably go to #1 regardless, just not stick around as long.

This is basically the reason they are mass buying. They were getting consistent high peaks before, but the most common complain from non fans was that the songs left after 3 or 4 weeks. So they decided to open their wallets and get some artificial longevity.

Kinda wanna see them get 23 #1s this year now only because it will finally kill any interest I have left on this chart. It's formula is flawed and the organization seems adamant in not doing anything about it because they love the mess and the traffic.

[Mayman]

Jul 18, 2021 12:07:48 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 18, 2021 11:41:46 GMT -5 atg said:

I honestly think Dynamite was their true #1 hit, and everything else after that was just a complete sales manipulation/mass buying scheme. Life Goes On was a perfect example of what happens when mass buying are not on their side. If anything i’m surprised that ARMY aren’t making the massive streaming numbers happen as that matters more nowadays, and they wouldn’t crash into free fall when the sales die down.

While this is true, I'd also have to say that Butter was bigger/more legitimate than a lot of the #1's in 2020, like THE SCOTTS, Stuck With U, and Franchise. I always keep pointing to the fact that the removal of UGC almost coincided with this, and it probably would have if we didn't have big #1 hits like The Box and Blinding Lights at the beginning of 2020.

Wasn't The Scotts #1 on streaming and sales for its week at #1?

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 18, 2021 12:47:18 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Jul 18, 2021 12:07:48 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

While this is true, I'd also have to say that Butter was bigger/more legitimate than a lot of the #1's in 2020, like THE SCOTTS, Stuck With U, and Franchise. I always keep pointing to the fact that the removal of UGC almost coincided with this, and it probably would have if we didn't have big #1 hits like The Box and Blinding Lights at the beginning of 2020.

Wasn't The Scotts #1 on streaming and sales for its week at #1?

It still would have not gone to #1 without the website sales. Based on Simm's prediction (which did not take into consideration website sales), Blinding Lights would have been #1 over The Scotts by a healthy margin: 

[Choco]

Jul 18, 2021 12:07:48 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I always keep pointing to the fact that the removal of UGC almost coincided with this

So this is the hill you're gonna die on once BL is removed from the chart...

[reginaphalange]

Jul 18, 2021 12:43:40 GMT -5 Choco said:

Jul 18, 2021 12:38:36 GMT -5 Naos said:

I could say they're as legitimate as a lot of one-week #1s. Some are just frontloaded and fall fast. They'd all probably go to #1 regardless, just not stick around as long.

Kinda wanna see them get 23 #1s this year now only because it will finally kill any interest I have left on this chart. It's formula is flawed and the organization seems adamant in not doing anything about it because they love the mess and the traffic.

Actually I think Billboard is going to remove website sales at one point shall the BTS’ reign continue and, obviously, if they continue to accumulate number ones with every single they put out solely thanks to mass buying. Otherwise it's gonna be so funny when they’ll break MJ/KP’s record lmao.

Also, it’s interesting how they immediately prevented Levitating from going number one but are perfectly fine with all this. This chart is truly becoming a joke as of now and if they won’t do anything abt it IMO it’s gonna lose a lot more relevance and credibility.